Database Users

Magldr dangerous?

Can I let my battery drain all the way or will it brick my phone? U red some stuff about it and it freaks me out. I don't want to loose aan 600 eur phone.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
** MOD EDIT **
For clarity, if you have problems booting/charging after battery goes flat, do the below and all will be well:
Leave your phone off
plug it in to charge for approx 30 minutes
unplug it and pop out the battery (so it will boot)
replace the battery
boot up the phone
plug it in while it is booting up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

What did you read??

no it wont, no danger at all.
i have no idea where all the rumours are coming from regarding the fear of MAGLDR and brickage, in fact it is far easier to completely brick your phones in a Windows Mobile envoronment than android through MAGLDR.
although in reality it is very very diffucilt to brick a HD2, once i lost all laptop power during a HSPL flash and it was still fine....
Draining battery / Running NANDroid / Flashing through MAGLDR will never brick a phone. EVER. PERIOD.
the only way people have ever bricked a HD2 is when they have a TMOUS handset (american model only) and flash a 51 radio. And even then it can still be revived through JTAG

HectiQ said:
Can I let my battery drain all the way or will it brick my phone? U red some stuff about it and it freaks me out. I don't want to loose aan 600 eur phone.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It wont brick your phone but you may have to pull the battery to charge it. Some users are claiming that it wont charge and the battery has to be pulled. As long as you have HSPL installed your pretty much bullet proof (dont try it though )
Ricey

but the phone doesnt charge while it is turned off!!

Android is dangerous on the hd2. It won't brick, but it will ruin your touchscreen, not many will tell you though

aptness leaderships said:
Android is dangerous on the hd2. It won't brick, but it will ruin your touchscreen, not many will tell you though
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why sir??

nonsense .

aptness leaderships said:
Android is dangerous on the hd2. It won't brick, but it will ruin your touchscreen, not many will tell you though
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i think it's because people running their phone with android let it gets way way way too hot and it damage the screen but it can also happen to window also
download tempmonitor and keep it under 102F and you should be good
btw i'm positive a person using android would be on their phone more then a person on window 6.5

oh yeah lmao btw i'm saying from personal experience
before i had android on my device i was using window OS, and screen died on me i think it was because i was watching movies on my phone but ehhhh HTC replace it for me for free (^_~)

TheATHEiST said:
COMPLETE AND UTTER ARSE VOMIT!!
lmao, not many will tell you because not many are retards.
Why on earth will it "ruin" your touchscreen? I have been using Android on my HD2 since day 1 and also on my HD1 since day 1 and my touchscreen is fine. If this was an issue there would be endless amount of threads about it.
You've simply had a defective device and blaimed it on you using Android when infact its purely your ignorance.
Hey the other week my laptop battery gave up, I was using msn at the time maybe that was the cause??
Jeez what rom are you using? My HD2 never gets hot!
I admit that my HD1 used to get hot in very early stages of android releases as power management was a real issue but those days are long gone as far as im concerned.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i was writing something along these lines but your resposnse is more eloquently put than mine was

TheATHEiST said:
COMPLETE AND UTTER ARSE VOMIT!!
lmao, not many will tell you because not many are retards.
Why on earth will it "ruin" your touchscreen? I have been using Android on my HD2 since day 1 and also on my HD1 since day 1 and my touchscreen is fine. If this was an issue there would be endless amount of threads about it.
You've simply had a defective device and blaimed it on you using Android when infact its purely your ignorance.
Hey the other week my laptop battery gave up, I was using msn at the time maybe that was the cause??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the way you say it i think your right!! for example my laptops screen wont be broken if i install linux insted of windows!

Please don't hijack my thread guys hehe. How can u charge the phone when the battery isn't in?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

TheATHEiST said:
What did you read??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I red when fully discharged the battery will never charge again. Because magldr doesn't support charging. And some ppl posted that it doesnt boot further then the magldr.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Beware magldr:
It's true. If you let the battery die completely, it won't charge anymore. It happened to me. Now I'm waiting for my ebay-bought wall charger for my battery. I just hope that when i manage to charge it, my hd2 still funtions. Cuz letting the battery die while on nand android may cause your nand to get corrupted. Then, you can't even access the bootloader.

HectiQ said:
I red when fully discharged the battery will never charge again. Because magldr doesn't support charging. And some ppl posted that it doesnt boot further then the magldr.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well if that was the case and you was faced with no power then you would simply use a battery charging dock.
So worst case you would be buying a cheap charger.
Oh and to set your mind a rest, it must be bs as ive just turned my phone off and plugged charger in and its charging. Only weird thing is that when I unplug the lead led is still red and I have to remove battery and put it back in to power on phone.

? Never mind. That is not helping in any way..
slayerns said:
i was too afraid to discharge it fully cuz we don't have lamps in our house and i only use my phones backlight and flashlight for studying. But I told my friend with hd2 to discharge it fully and the next day he called me with his "house" phone sayign "wtf did you do!". So yes it is dangareous!!!....
........
My charge is battery is dying off, i need to charge immediately.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I think this thread should be made sticky. To make everyone now about the DANGERS!

slayerns said:
I think this thread should be made sticky. To make everyone now about the DANGERS!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im not sure why you are mocking the OP he raised a very valid point, although I dont think it is dangerous teh concern is there.
The only person you should be mocking is the tard who said Android is dangerous for your screen.

TheATHEiST said:
Im not sure why you are mocking the OP he raised a very valid point, although I dont think it is dangerous teh concern is there.
The only person you should be mocking is the tard who said Android is dangerous for your screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cuz charging also works with magldr and when phone is off!
orrr doesn't it,?

[Q] Reverting to Windows Mobile 6.5

I flashed Android to my HD2 using NAND and now I want to go back to WinMo 6.5. Can anyone tell me how to do this.

Get the WM ROM you want to install and enter the bootloader - turn off the phone and then hold down the volume down button and briefly press the power button. Keep holding the volume down button till you get the tri-colour screen. Connect to PC via USB and run the WM ROM installer.

Download the original ROM or custom ROM.
Put your HD2 in Tricolor Bootloader mode by holding the VOL-down button when powering on.
Flash your ROM.

Where can I get the WM ROM?

oscar0324 said:
Where can I get the WM ROM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Either from HTC websites in your country or xda : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717

oscar0324 said:
I flashed Android to my HD2 using NAND and now I want to go back to WinMo 6.5. Can anyone tell me how to do this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would you want to do that? Andriod is awesome and better suited to the HD2 than the WM it came with...
But each to their own.. Try the following link...
http://www.4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html

I'm with Oscar, i am going back too. I have downloaded setCPU and tried all the other suggestions but I am still burning through my battery at a ridiculous rate. I like the Android OS but I need a phone that will stay charged for longer than 12 to 14 hours while in standby!

Android kills the battery. Less than 4 hours a day, that sucks!!!!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I've not had the battery issues you've mentioned. You don't happen to be leaving bluetooth running do you? This has a known issue with battery drain.
I don't use bluetooth and I get extremely nice battery life with the gingerbread android builds.

Rtwalker said:
Android kills the battery. Less than 4 hours a day, that sucks!!!!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I get 48 hours without any tweaks at all on almost every Android I'v installed. Currently I'm using CoreDroid and my standby battery drain is average 2-4 ma with Current Widget. You guys are CRAZY for going back to winmo but I guess some people just can't stand a way better OS

Scolo said:
I'm with Oscar, i am going back too. I have downloaded setCPU and tried all the other suggestions but I am still burning through my battery at a ridiculous rate. I like the Android OS but I need a phone that will stay charged for longer than 12 to 14 hours while in standby!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rtwalker said:
Android kills the battery. Less than 4 hours a day, that sucks!!!!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its because you are either using an old/crap rom or you havent done enough research.
I have tried MANY roms and most of them now have excellent battery consumption. Between 1-5mA on standby.
Make sure you try things like remembering to turn off bluetooth/wifi when not using them aswell as have a upto date kernel/rom, also make sure that your radio is a uptodate version.
There is loads you can do, you simply cant be bothered, that is your problem. Battery consumption used to be a big problem, that simply is not true anymore.

wrecless said:
I get 48 hours without any tweaks at all on almost every Android I'v installed. Currently I'm using CoreDroid and my standby battery drain is average 2-4 ma with Current Widget. You guys are CRAZY for going back to winmo but I guess some people just can't stand a way better OS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
48 hours? The only way I can't get this is by using it...err...I mean NOT using my phone at all. Just letting it sit there (maybe a dozen of calls).
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

It would not make it back

Noob magldr charge

Can the phone still be charged when off after the installation of android (nand) and magldr?
Or does the Rom have to be booted?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium

alex.odell.2011 said:
Can the phone still be charged when off after the installation of android (nand) and magldr?
Or does the Rom have to be booted?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No it cannot in MAGLDR, only in cLK. If you connect the USB when the phone is off, it will just start booting up and will begin charging only once it has booted up.

Nigeldg said:
No it cannot in MAGLDR, only in cLK. If you connect the USB when the phone is off, it will just start booting up and will begin charging only once it has booted up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When is the phone is completely flat, you plug in the charger and it boots ?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium

alex.odell.2011 said:
When is the phone is completely flat, you plug in the charger and it boots ?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah my advice is if your battery runs flat, don't bother trying to turn the phone back on again but instead just leave it until you find a charger, then plug it in and hope for the best. If it doesn't end up charging, you have to cut open your USB cable and hold the red and black wires to their respective parts of the battery (don't ask me which lol, search for it )

I use tasker to turn off the phone if battery level gets lower than 15% so there will be some juice left to make the phone boot and plug the charger.
Inviato dal mio HTC HD2 usando Tapatalk

My HD2 only needed 2% battery to make it fully start. And it would recharge the battery while it was in magldr boot screen.
Yesterday my screen failed due to the known design fail of htc. The power and back button damaged the screen digitizer so the touch part of the screen didnt work. Had this problem for the past few months but this time i could not activate the screen anymoee. Luckly my contract was at its end so i could get a shiny Galaxy Nexus. But still HD2 rocks the world and is in my eyes the best phone.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

i was running in my hd2 wp7.one day i had no more battery and phone couldnt boot up.I connect charger and it reboot continously without the ability to charge.
wilwilwel said:
My HD2 only needed 2% battery to make it fully start. And it would recharge the battery while it was in magldr boot screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly
Hold while the phone is power on,power button so the phone will stay in magldr menu.I let it there for 30 minutes and then it booted ok

magldr 1.11 only
funny cuz ive answered this before....
only mag 1.11 can charge while phone is off.
if you have 1.12 or higher and charge at magldr screen it will take FOREVER to charge...but it does work
after 1.11 it auto starts when charging.....
not sure if wp7 will work in 1.11......
but thats why it doesnt charge

jasons1004 said:
funny cuz ive answered this before....
only mag 1.11 can charge while phone is off.
if you have 1.12 or higher and charge at magldr screen it will take FOREVER to charge...but it does work
after 1.11 it auto starts when charging.....
not sure if wp7 will work in 1.11......
but thats why it doesnt charge
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, maybe a new feature in the next release of MAGLDR can be a battery charge capability with indication and level of battery in a menu just like Services? Since it boots up anyway to charge (even in magldr), i think it would be helpful. What do you all think? Maybe we post a humble request to Cotulla, the developer of MAGLDR?

LuSiD7 said:
So, maybe a new feature in the next release of MAGLDR can be a battery charge capability with indication and level of battery in a menu just like Services? Since it boots up anyway to charge (even in magldr), i think it would be helpful. What do you all think? Maybe we post a humble request to Cotulla, the developer of MAGLDR?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I highly doubt it'll help. He already knows what issues people may have with MAGLDR 1.13 but it's becoming increasingly less likely that we'll see a new version of MAGLDR released. He posted screenshots on Twitter ages ago but there's been no news since then.

Nigeldg said:
I highly doubt it'll help. He already knows what issues people may have with MAGLDR 1.13 but it's becoming increasingly less likely that we'll see a new version of MAGLDR released. He posted screenshots on Twitter ages ago but there's been no news since then.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
:crying:
Such a pity...
Maybe we should raise a donation to the guy? He surely deserves it!

LuSiD7 said:
:crying:
Such a pity...
Maybe we should raise a donation to the guy? He surely deserves it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Again I doubt it'd help. There's no doubt he deserves it but I don't think he'd release a new version of MAGLDR just because of a donation. If he'd wanted to release it he would have done so by now, AFAIK no devs do this for donations.

Nigeldg said:
Again I doubt it'd help. There's no doubt he deserves it but I don't think he'd release a new version of MAGLDR just because of a donation. If he'd wanted to release it he would have done so by now, AFAIK no devs do this for donations.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Faith, my friend. Not just because you got a Nexus, that means he stopped his work.
If you check his twitter, he's still working on it.

Consumption of SD and NAND Android

Right now, I'm using SD Android on my HTC HD2..
But it consumes more than 30% of battery power in standby mode for 5-6 hours...
and drains a lot when the screen is on..
1. I'm wondering that how much battery saving will do if I change it into NAND Android?
2. Should it consumes less power and stable like original Windows Mobile 6.5?
thank you

You won't get battery drain which will match WinMo if you use Android, but you certainly shouldn't get such high drain either. Turn off all connections, use JuiceDefender and SetCPU to minimise drain and install current widget to get a better reading. It should be around 7-8ma for an SD build. For me, that amounts to 1% an hour. Also, NAND has better battery life and performance, but bear in mind you won't have WinMo (although in all honesty I doubt this would make a difference )
Sent from my NexusHD2

Nigeldg said:
You won't get battery drain which will match WinMo if you use Android, but you certainly shouldn't get such high drain either. Turn off all connections, use JuiceDefender and SetCPU to minimise drain and install current widget to get a better reading. It should be around 7-8ma for an SD build. For me, that amounts to 1% an hour. Also, NAND has better battery life and performance, but bear in mind you won't have WinMo (although in all honesty I doubt this would make a difference )
Sent from my NexusHD2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks a lot for your response..
7-8mA for all connections are off?
how about when data connection is on?

Virage said:
thanks a lot for your response..
7-8mA for all connections are off?
how about when data connection is on?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry I got that wrong, 7-8 is with connections ON. Connections off should really be at the very most 4Ma. My bad.

Nigeldg said:
Sorry I got that wrong, 7-8 is with connections ON. Connections off should really be at the very most 4Ma. My bad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried to turn on the data connection and wifi, it consumes 10-20mA..
how bout that?
is it normal?
thank you

Virage said:
I tried to turn on the data connection and wifi, it consumes 10-20mA..
how bout that?
is it normal?
thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No that's far too high. Which ROM are you using? Have you used SetCPU and JuiceDefender as I suggested? Also try killing all apps before turning your screen off.

Nigeldg said:
No that's far too high. Which ROM are you using? Have you used SetCPU and JuiceDefender as I suggested? Also try killing all apps before turning your screen off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using nightly ROM, is it not compatible with my HD2?
yes, I installed JuiceDefender.. that's why when wi-fi is on, it consumes less power..
I'll try to install NAND Android, but I'm afraid...

Virage said:
I'm using nightly ROM, is it not compatible with my HD2?
yes, I installed JuiceDefender.. that's why when wi-fi is on, it consumes less power..
I'll try to install NAND Android, but I'm afraid...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That from is defifitely compatible... I say don't be afraid to install band android it is very easy to just flash a wmo from and go back to stock. I had to do it three days ago to return my phone for insurance ( I cracked the glass screen) and it took me all of 5 minutes to go from nand android to completely stock. I suggest using the hd2 toolkit it does all the work for you
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk 2

rawdaddymagraden said:
That from is defifitely compatible... I say don't be afraid to install band android it is very easy to just flash a wmo from and go back to stock. I had to do it three days ago to return my phone for insurance ( I cracked the glass screen) and it took me all of 5 minutes to go from nand android to completely stock. I suggest using the hd2 toolkit it does all the work for you
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you very much for your help...
God bless you..
Now, I installed nand android

Virage said:
thank you very much for your help...
God bless you..
Now, I installed nand android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
God bless yourself as well and if you need anything else let me know also the best way to thank more is to press the thanks button
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk 2

Did I just brick my phone ?

So I was being curious (which is what killed the cat , I'm afraid) and I clocked the processor to ~1.5Ghz , everything was going fine until apps like Play Store started closing a few seconds after being launched - I tried resetting the phone but the power off menu took too long to show up so I just took out the battery (I know ...) ... and now the phone won't start.At all.
Is there anything else to do except mourn ?

AychDeeToo said:
So I was being curious (which is what killed the cat , I'm afraid) and I clocked the processor to ~1.5Ghz , everything was going fine until apps like Play Store started closing a few seconds after being launched - I tried resetting the phone but the power off menu took too long to show up so I just took out the battery (I know ...) ... and now the phone won't start.At all.
Is there anything else to do except mourn ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keep the battery out, wait about 20 minutes, and try booting again. You might need to reflash another kernel if you had the auto boot option set on whatever app you used to overclock. It should be ok.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

pyraxiate said:
Keep the battery out, wait about 20 minutes, and try booting again. You might need to reflash another kernel if you had the auto boot option set on whatever app you used to overclock. It should be ok.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Luckily , I was not that stupid.I'll wait and report the results.

AychDeeToo said:
Luckily , I was not that stupid.I'll wait and report the results.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um ... nope , waited 30 minutes , no luck.Any other suggestions ?

AychDeeToo said:
Um ... nope , waited 30 minutes , no luck.Any other suggestions ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you sure your battery isnt dead ? Try plugging it in and waiting a bit. Most processors have a thermal shut off as a safety precaution well below max temp. Havent heard of someone bricking a phone from overclocking in quite a while.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

pyraxiate said:
Are you sure your battery isnt dead ? Try plugging it in and waiting a bit. Most processors have a thermal shut off as a safety precaution well below max temp. Havent heard of someone bricking a phone from overclocking in quite a while.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well , the battery has been performing quite badly since I installed HyperDroid 6.0 , so hopefully it is what the problem is.I just plugged it in and will keep it in for a while ... in the meantime , I'm gonna go play a round of TF2.

AychDeeToo said:
Well , the battery has been performing quite badly since I installed HyperDroid 6.0 , so hopefully it is what the problem is.I just plugged it in and will keep it in for a while ... in the meantime , I'm gonna go play a round of TF2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope , it has been plugged since the last time I posted and still no luck.