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Be Honest- Serious Question !
we are all like a one global family participatig in various topics from basic to an advanced level and we should be very happy and accept the fact that atleast on this matter we all try and thrieve to help one another as well as nicely rebuke anyone not doing the groung work before asking any question.
Its all well an good.
Now the more serious matter and please be honest. I will make a start by admitting that ever since I bought Android phone, I ended up spending more time flashing roms after rom and radios and what nowt! My life partner also noticed that I am spendig more time hooking that phone to bloody computer than actually putting up to me ear. She thought phone was more dear to me!
What does your partner think? We might have to srart councelling services for the worse ones!
I'm single, so no problem. : D
But, I don't think I'll be flashing my Hero often. I'm starting to appreciate actually using the phone rather than updating it all the time.
no problem here ...
I flashed my Hero twice, the new Stock ROM and last week the new radio ... and I'm very happy with how it works.
Flashing on a daîly or weekle basis is something for freaks, who like to play. I've different playgrounds
Next time I flash will be Android 2.0 from HTC, until then I use it as a phone and enjoy all the nice apps
P.S. My favorite: OruxMaps, now with Geocaching features
My girl simply loves my hero, first of all she loves playing with it lol
No but with my previous phone (htc diamond) I changed roms more often because it simply didn't work as good as my hero. Als I had a lot more problems
with programs making a hard reset the only way out.
The only update I did was the oficial rom update, don't see the needfor a custom rom (not saying those are wrong or something, kudos to the people who cook them!)
So to be honest; I had my diamond connected to my pc far more often then my hero does. And when bluetooth is fully supported I don't see any need to connect it to
the pc.
I bought the Wife a Hero as well.
I do the experimenting and she gets to share the positives.
To be honest, I only did a couple of ROM updates and was happy with it. Once I found out that HTC are going to be shipping a 2.0 sooner or later, I just can't be bothered...
Zuber
Using my Hero out of the box and the only update I did was the official 2.73 update. It's nice having something that "Just works" after spending a difficult year with the Diamond.
To be honest.... I came from a diamond too. With that said I flash a lot at first with it, but then I found a good Rom that worked. After that I got involved in the Android diamond port. And since I was a cdma user. Let's just say I spent more time in emulators, compiling and telnet then using the phone. Now I got a hero and everything works. I spent the first week on irc tryin to get it root. Now its root and I couldn't ask for more then 2.0.
Back to the subject though. My wife I believe likes my hero. I only fiddle with apps mostly now. She knows I love my phone and I know she's jealous of my phone. But only cuz she's stuck with an LG dare on Verizon.
My Wife thinks I am addicted to mobiles????? ................ ok I think I am too.
I have been happish on the official HTC ROM until a few days ago when I finally broke and rooted and flashed a cooked ROM to solve the Bluetooth issues I had.
Now its a dream and I wont flash it again until the official HTC 2.0.
Before I had a Diamond and an X1 and yes my wife was getting very frustrated that once a week a least I would lose an entire night or day of a weekend flashing and the setting up the phone again.
iPhone sorted that out but I got bored of the lack of customisation so off I went again to Android.
At least now I only rebuild once every few months so she is happer!
Russ
In my experience, I had my last phone hooked up to the computer a lot more (HTC Touch/Vogue.) I imagine this has to do with the closed nature of Windows vs the open nature of Android. Android is a lot easier for a ROM cook to work with, I would imagine. Also, the flashing process itself is far easier on the Hero, once it's rooted. At least IMO.
More topic specific, my gf has no problem with my phone addictedness as I mostly geek around with it while I'm at work.
hardly surprising responses from everyone! only a phone-o-phile would regularily visit a discussion forum about phones...
and yes my missus is constantly referring to my phone as my mistress. it almost always shares the bed with us and is the last thing I look at before I fall asleep...
All my previous WM units took a LOT of time.
But my Hero just works - all standard (rooted though), and upgraded of course.
No need to flash anything here
Not got my Hero yet, but my gf has been complaining that im 'obsessing' over it... but it should now be at home waiting for me when i get in today YEAY!
when i first got it, i spent loads of time flashing it, but now ive found a decent rom and radio that gives good batt life and reception, im happy
the next time ill flas it will be with the 2.0 hero rom.
you just need to find a rom that youre happy with
Man i got my Hero around 1 week ago and i have not stopped playing with it since, i flashed the Modaco rom, but after a couple of days flashed back to the most recent stock rom, due to problems with the gsensor. I have rooted he phone and i now spend most of my time installing apps!
I just cant put the Hero down!
After 10 years of nokias the n97 finally pushed me over the edge and i am expecting my new hd2 in the post today.Just a question about updating it.After installing the new 1.66 rom do i have to install any other htc official updates or are they all included in the new rom?
Is there a way to check for new updates on the device or do you have to check the htc site all the time?
Also whats this i read about updating the radio.What does this do?
Haha just like my story, my last Nokia was the N97 .. look what they did, they made us nokia users divert to another phone company.
Welcome aboard
Im not sure about the last question, but regarding the first, a fellow good user told me that you most likely not need the official updates, but you can check in the HTC support for the versions they support. Most of them are 1.59 or below, so in that case you dont need them
I think you need to check their support page, or the RSS feed there. Dont know if there is another way.
Hope I helped a bit.
1. First of all congrats to your decision to leave Nokia and move over to HTC - you'll never regret this, I guess...
2. Please use search-function in the future. You have only to install hotfixes that are needed for your ROM-version - so if e.g. on the HTC-page is written sth. like "needed for version <1.6" then you haven't to reinstall these hotfixes again with ROM 1.66 (installation wouldn't work anyway).
3. To check if there are new updates availabel, you have to visit HTC-website (support section) - you can put an RSS-feed onto your phone to check it also - this is my solution. Better it is to visit this thite here XDA-Developers often, and you'll get also informed and beneath this lot of feedback according the updates.
4. RADIO is the firmware for the receiver unit aso. - it is responsible for reception (GSM, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS etc.), very important for battery consumption and also responsible for a couple of other things like sound (not sure about these other things to be honest).
Hope this helps for the beginning.
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Haha just like my story, my last Nokia was the N97 .. look what they did, they made us nokia users divert to another phone company.
Welcome aboard
Im not sure about the last question, but regarding the first, a fellow good user told me that you most likely not need the official updates, but you can check in the HTC support for the versions they support. Most of them are 1.59 or below, so in that case you dont need them
I think you need to check their support page, or the RSS feed there. Dont know if there is another way.
Hope I helped a bit.
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+1 here
after tons of nokias, and painful waiting 7 months o release date of n97, i said googbye to nokia.
i gues they would need to make space shuttle in a phone to get me back
For me it's the same, too. After Nokia N70 and E90 Communicator, I also went to HTC. But I had two Pocket PCs more than ten years ago (Casio Cassiopeia), so finally meeting Windows Mobile again.
Same here.. My last phone was n97.. Didnt regret after changing to this phone and i just love my HD2 more and more as time goes by..
I was a devoted Nokia man for years, until one day I saw the Touch Diamond and was overcome with lust. I had my Diamond for a while, then a HD, and now the HD2. I can't imagine ever going back to Nokia now, but I'll always be fond of them.
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I was a devoted Nokia man for years, until one day I saw the Touch Diamond and was overcome with lust. I had my Diamond for a while, then a HD, and now the HD2. I can't imagine ever going back to Nokia now, but I'll always be fond of them.
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My story almost the same. I had some Nokias, the last one was N95 and I then I bought a HTC Touch Diamond which... I generally hated . But it had a great GPS receiver and was very small so I was using it quite a while (for a year I guess) and now I'm using HD2 and I'm very happy with it although at first I was a little bit sceptic as I wasn't happy with my Diamond. Anyway in general HD2 is a great phone and I didn;t have some irritating problems with it so I would recommend it to anybody.
Same here, After years of Nokia and Symbian.. The N97 made me Mad ..
So here im HtC HD2
And i Love the Phone..
You've all been slow, look below at how long ago I did that move
hello guys i've beeen a hard core nokia user and after 12 yrs of nokia marriage i divorced it when there was no sign of a new communicator.....
same story here. From the N97 to HD2. Best choice ever. Nokia user for about 10years, but its very doubtful that i will ever go back to Nokia again after the N97 experience. The new flagship after the N95 failed bigtime.
Add another one to the list. I was using the Nokia 5530, and I just sold it on Saturday (literally) to help finance my HD2 purchase. I'll soon join the ranks, and as my wife just said to before I saw this post, "I don't want to ever buy another Nokia phone."
I agree. Symbian drove me crazy. None of these models have enough system memory to function well enough. The N97 is a disaster.
I'm glad I found this forum, because otherwise I would not have known how customizable the HD2 really is, and the fact that it runs Windows Mobile would have caused me to shy away from it.
just settings up the new phone . I have got a major problem hope someone can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5515719#post5515719
He he this is turning in to an Ex-N97 owners convention.
I'm in too and on a brighter note my wife loves it
Damn , I checking everyday, looking for official ROM update for my HD2 ( Poland )
This time ( this HTC phone ) I wont to try "normal" way to rom flash, without different 'home made' ROM'S
What a freaking policy the have ?
Fake announcement's , almost official rumours, giving rom update only for some country's - damn !
After my third HTC phone I sad Enough !
There's always something - sms issue or other issue, lack of something, no drivers, no compatibility ! damn !!! It's like fighting with the wind.
But...I'm still here with my new HD2 - I'm giving last chance to HTC, they have my ultimatum 78 hours to release official ROM update for Poland !
If not......well , I know where thay have office, and where's a nearest gas station
I think that almost everything is because current market - new mobile every week, new OS every 3 weeks, new..new...new, where's that time's when producers release only 1 phone in year, but relay improved ! and with 99% working and stable functions !
HSPL is your friend
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This time ( this HTC phone ) I wont to try "normal" way to rom flash, without different 'home made' ROM'S
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I also said "This time I'll only use stock ROMs". I lasted 1 week before flashing a custom one again
Exactly ! I use it 1.5 week, and I will give HTC time till Friday 11:00 , then I will flash some unofficial ROM.
( and I will send email with picture of my butt to chief of HTC )
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( and I will send email with picture of my butt to chief of HTC )
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bwahahahahaha : -)
They don't read this forum so I doubt this 'threat' will even register with them - just flash a custom ROM and be done with it. They're better than stock anyway!
They have spy's here.... to read about every issue and then they can say that "it will be fixed"....someday, when they release 11 new pda's before end of the next month, of course with 6 different OS, on 3 different ROM's
They do read it. They said at MWC that they listen to forums and stuff to get feedback.
I feel your pain man, Eastern Europe seems to be ignored in regards to 1.66 update. I don't care about it that much, because its working fine, but i want an official rom with opera 10 full version and with pinch to zoom.
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They have spy's here.... to read about every issue and then they can say that "it will be fixed"....someday, when they release 11 new pda's before end of the next month, of course with 6 different OS, on 3 different ROM's
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It has been almost one month without any support developement for any HTC device (last was Released 2010-01-28 for HTC Magic) so it is not HTC HD2 specific
And the reason is probably mobility trade fair season, so I guess they were working on new product to have something to show and here comes your "11 new pda's ..." complain
So basicaly you are right
Well, that's why we have this site and cooked ROMs... I definitely wouldn't have had all the HTC devices I've had (seen signature pic) if it wasn't there.
HTC do follow, with mixed feelings obviously as people here are for sure abusing their phones, but at the same time they buy them, thousands of them...
Their devices are great, and it's not really their fault if WM is flawed as it is. They've already done quite a bit to try and improve it, then well there's so much you can do... at the same time until now nothing had WM's versatility, diversity of apps while staying open, which is why we stick with it even with the drawbacks... even if android is now slowly overtaking.
HTC Give us HD2 1.66 rom update for Poland !!
Hey !!! Guys from HTC !!! I know that You reading this !
!!!! 21 hours left !!!!
I already had take picture of my hairy butt ! It's ready to send.
On last two hours I will be ready , with my finger on the mouse pointed to "send" button.
You do know that all ROM updates for the region will come via SunnySoft -
http://wwww.sunnysoft.com/htc/
?
I would hazard a guess that if it has not been released yet, that they are still working on the localisation?
I know about localisation form Sunnysoft, but it's not about language - I want official 1.66 rom for east Europe , I want them (HTC) to go to work and threat their clients like they should to. I want patch's for all leak's in HD2 rom, and I want suitcase filled with $$ and plane to country without extradition
so why don't you install HSPL and flash to ROM for your region?
But there is no difference between official and cooked ... why moan?
I have my HD2 from 2 week's from now, I know that sooner or later I will flash some cooked rom, I always do it with my previous HTC's, this time I though about giving HTC a chance to be "on time" with ROM update.
They have been, just not for you
What ROM do you have at the moment? Is it a vendor locked one? If so, it's them you should be venting at NOT HTC...
EDIT: Just checked their site and there's not even a 1.66 ROM. Think you should contact them directly as you'll get a quicker response than on here...
479.1
I'm waitig for 479.1 rom too.
Leo is my first HTC device, so i want to flash official way for the first time, obviously Still got some patiance...
afropolak, good luck on your mission, make sure to write feedback what HTC CEO thinks about your hairy one
Ok, time's up ! Right now somebody in HTC headquarters look at picture of my hairy butt and try to understand why ? Why somebody send it.
I flash Laurentis ROM yesterday, I must to say nice , but - few application that works well before, now crash every times ( mTollbox 0.3.0 ) but it's a other thread case.
I will still try to catch official ROM , because for my new bug-less rom I cant install semi-official Polish localization from SunnySoft.
Like I sad On the first post - DAMN..!!! THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WRONG WIT WM DEVICES AND OS.
Yes, I know, I'm moaning again...
This desire hd was my first htc device, i've been waiting a while to be able to upgrade to a htc device having read how good the old desire (with htc sense) was. I am not a rooter so just wanted a stock phone with standard ui. I took delivery of the phone the third day it came out through vodafone (non branded.. thank god), initially i was impressed with the sence ui as this was my first android and htc phone. I was also impressed on how quick they released a couple of "fixes" for the phone.. that is until 1.72 !!!!!!!.. i installed this the first time i recieved the ota message.. around the end of nov beginning of dec. Like alot of users at the time i wasn't initially impressed with the "auto" setting on the camera/video, but (thankfully to the excellent guide posted on here) this was mostly fixed (the only problem being that by the time you set the camera up the picture oppurtunity may have passed !!!). As a casual camera user this didn't really bother me, HOWEVER the screwed up sms/ringtone/notification tone/sd card reading faults do!!!!!. since the begginning of december i cannot count the amount of missed/never recieved sms messages, htc knew about these problems and now almost 4 MONTHS later they still haven't seen fit to make the newer 1.84 available to unbranded phones (although it does improve certain parts of the phone i know it also adds a few new minor bugs), the point is sms is prob the most important and most used part of modern day mobiles, so surely it would make sense (pardon the pun) the address the most commonly used parts of their "flagship" phone!!. The returning to the default (and mostly unaudible) ringtone and message/notification after charging the phone is really winding me up!!!. It seems to me they've been concerntrating so much on their new "flagship" phones they've left us desire hd users behind. They seem happy to just sit back and let the rumour mill spread the news about upcoming updates, having us guessing when the 2.3 gingerbread is coming (and all of us hoping all the bugs will be fixed in it, although they haven't even comfirmed this!!!!), instead of this as a large company, they should make a official announcement to its customers.
Yeah, because that tale is only true of HTC!!
Good luck with your new Samsung / LG / Motorola / Sony Ericsson what ever you decide to go with next. I'm sure they are all completely fault free and a quick Google search would show no results what so ever of similar stories.
Good bye for now, but I'm sure we'll see you soon on the [whatever device] forum shortly.
Yes in an ideal world HTC would have fixed these issues by now, but we don't live in an ideal world. The solution is at hand though through custom ROMs, or if you don't want to go that root simply downgrade back to your original ROM via an RUU. I don't think manuacturers in general have much interest once they have your dough and in fact HTC are one of the better ones with froyo making it officially onto the magic before samsung got it to the captivate.
I've used 3 android phones before my dhd and wow what can I say , try Sony Ericsson x10 ) , you will see what is lack of support and lack of custom roms ...
So be happy you have the best phone available on the market.
I know that no smartphone is perfect, but surely htc could have worked on a ota that rolls back to the previous less problematic software version (after all some of the users on here have managed it!). All the smartphone makers are guilty of releasing buggy phones and then releasing fixes throughout the products life (which seems to be getting shorter and shorter lol ), but what would happen if you bought a tv from a shop and everytime you switched it on you have to retune the channels back in. Thats how it feels everytime i take it off charge, i have to change the ringtone (searching through all the mp3s on my phone to find it), then run the star wars soundboard (sad i know but r2d2 is a really loud notification tone) select the sound to act as a notification tone (which it no longer does!!.. but if i dont do this process first the notification tone isnt even seen in the notification sound setting .. i then go into sound settings change the notification to r2d2, i then have to go into compose message, then sms settings and select notification sound settings again for it to change, so that means i have to go through three different processes to set the notification tone everytime i recharge. The settings of the ringtone and notification tones weren't a problem in the first few weeks of getting the phone before the 1.72 update .. also forgot to mention i dont recieve a notification tone or light most of the time while the screen is switched off.. when i unlock the phone i have to check the messages to see if i have recieved any.. just plain weird lol... thank god i have the best smartphone on the market
I agree with u , 1.72 is extremely buggy. From deleting sms , no notif, random reboots etc. What really gets to Me which I don't understand is why release 1.84 to branded phones but not unbranded phones. HTC released the buggy update to both branded and un, but decided to release 1.84 to bran users and leave unbranded users stock with this crap.
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I got my dhd as soon as it came out, and despite having put custom ROMs on 3 previous HTC phones, I decided that the dhd was perfect as stock. With the initial teething problems rooting the dhd, I decided I wasn't going to bother.
This was, however, before I did the update to 1.72, and all the problems that came with it.
What did I end up doing? Rooting my phone, removing all the problems and drastically improving performance and battery life. I recommend you do the same, it would be a shame to not take advantage of what this community has to offer.
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I own unbranded Desire HD from orange UK, it had one ota and currently has 1.72 on it, its perfect, I mean really perfect, everything works superb. Never try to root never gonna do as well.
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Wow , I never thought I would hear someone say 1.72 is perfect !!!!!!
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SMS bug?Try Handcent SMS,Go SMS or Chomp SMS,all available in the market.In these you can even set your own music for notification! You'll have to turn off stock SMS app's notifications though.
Ringtone?Try this.Select your ringtone through the music app.Then go to settings and choose it from the ringtones list,it'll be there.Works perfect since I did this.
See?No need to root!
Although I'd recommend root,custom rom,overclock/undervolt,happiness!
tolis626 said:
SMS bug?Try Handcent SMS,Go SMS or Chomp SMS,all available in the market.In these you can even set your own music for notification! You'll have to turn off stock SMS app's notifications though.
Ringtone?Try this.Select your ringtone through the music app.Then go to settings and choose it from the ringtones list,it'll be there.Works perfect since I did this.
See?No need to root!
Although I'd recommend root,custom rom,overclock/undervolt,happiness!
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I had to result to go sms pro a while ago , not getting notif drove me mad lol. I do Wana try out custom Rom etc but I really don't have anytime on hand. But hopefully as soon as HTC release the update and dev start cooking roms based on that il try and make some time , il try the notif sound , thanks
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I recommend you try rooting and using a custom ROM like RCMixHD, the true power of the DesireHD is only unleashed by letting developers get it working to its true potential.
That's the beauty of Android... if something does not work quite the way you like, it's not thaaaat hard to change it or tweak it... try doing that with an iPhone
Personally I rooted and went to CM7 less than a week after getting the phone... I don't know why, I just can't get used to Sense, everything is too big and not space-efficient, my eyesight is good enough!
Dude, why would you buy an Android phone and then use stock ROMs? It's like getting a Ferrari to drive only to the store with it... Root it, install a custom ROM, play with it a bit, learn something new, you can get it to work however you want it if you put in just a little bit effort...
this is my 3rd HTC manufactured phone (2x WM before this), and I really can't complain about the out-of-the-box OS/hardware.
Some minor gripes, but nothing is perfect.
I have rooted, S-eng'ed so I'm ready to move into the custom ROMs & kernels (still finding my feet with Android, it was second nature with WM) - however, for me the stock ROM is aceptable. My motivation is to get better engineering from our expert ROM chefs - & better battery life - but the brute power of the DHD bulldozes most of the OS inefficiencies.
But the recommendations here are the way to go, I chose Android since there IS great potential to improve the base product, through custom ROMs and apps such as Handcent:
root and flash a custom ROM! (spend some time getting familiar with the process, there are tutorials aplenty here, it's almost impossible to brick your phone)
over/underclock as needed
look for alternative apps that resolve your problems with the system apps (Handcent for SMS; Ringo for ringtone management etc)
& read, for example, some of the posts from the unhappy Galaxy users in their sub-forum here, and how Samsung set up that phone... you will see that the grass is not greener on the other side.
thanks for the advice guys.. im gonna give the official 2.3 ota a try (when it finally surfaces) and if its no better im definatley gonna custom rom it. I would never really consider this but it does seem the way to go to get the full potential out of the hardware... after all i cant make it any worse than it is now.. unless i brick it of course lol
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This desire hd was my first htc device, i've been waiting a while to be able to upgrade to a htc device having read how good the old desire (with htc sense) was. I am not a rooter so just wanted a stock phone with standard ui. I took delivery of the phone the third day it came out through vodafone (non branded.. thank god), initially i was impressed with the sence ui as this was my first android and htc phone. I was also impressed on how quick they released a couple of "fixes" for the phone.. that is until 1.72 !!!!!!!.. i installed this the first time i recieved the ota message.. around the end of nov beginning of dec. Like alot of users at the time i wasn't initially impressed with the "auto" setting on the camera/video, but (thankfully to the excellent guide posted on here) this was mostly fixed (the only problem being that by the time you set the camera up the picture oppurtunity may have passed !!!). As a casual camera user this didn't really bother me, HOWEVER the screwed up sms/ringtone/notification tone/sd card reading faults do!!!!!. since the begginning of december i cannot count the amount of missed/never recieved sms messages, htc knew about these problems and now almost 4 MONTHS later they still haven't seen fit to make the newer 1.84 available to unbranded phones (although it does improve certain parts of the phone i know it also adds a few new minor bugs), the point is sms is prob the most important and most used part of modern day mobiles, so surely it would make sense (pardon the pun) the address the most commonly used parts of their "flagship" phone!!. The returning to the default (and mostly unaudible) ringtone and message/notification after charging the phone is really winding me up!!!. It seems to me they've been concerntrating so much on their new "flagship" phones they've left us desire hd users behind. They seem happy to just sit back and let the rumour mill spread the news about upcoming updates, having us guessing when the 2.3 gingerbread is coming (and all of us hoping all the bugs will be fixed in it, although they haven't even comfirmed this!!!!), instead of this as a large company, they should make a official announcement to its customers.
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You think HTC is bad at customer support? Haha. Good luck with the other manufaturers, samsung etc.
They are even WORSE
Tip for the op - try separating your posts into paragraphs next time. I really can't be ****ed even reading your rant.
Sent from my Android baby.
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Tip for the op - try separating your posts into paragraphs next time. I really can't be ****ed even reading your rant.
Sent from my Android baby.
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+1
I struggled a bit reading it aswell
There're a lot of bugs in HTC but for me know there is nothing better, firstly i was thinking about iphone but later when get used to all features of HTC i don't want to leave it! You should spend more time with your phone to feel it..
I bought a used Galaxy i5800 from someone online last month, it was upgraded to a leaked 2.2 build and was fine.
But now it's started to play up and SMS come in hours late. I heard that the official 2.2 is out but I need to get to 2.1 first. But there are loads of 2.1 builds so not sure what one to use for my device and how to do it either :/
Would love some help.
It was bought at CPW, unlocked and it's the one with the physical buttons and not the touch-sensitive onse.
Try this http://hotfile.com/dl/75501425/ff268c2/I5800XXJG3_XXJG7_OXXJG5_pl.rar