I've got a Legend on Virgin (Canada) and I'm still debating rooting it. My question is if I needed to unroot for warranty or whatever else, would I need to find a Virgin branded ROM? Or could I just use a generic ROM and update normally? I'm still reading up on the whole root procedure but I want to make sure I know what's going on before I try it.
benbad said:
I've got a Legend on Virgin (Canada) and I'm still debating rooting it. My question is if I needed to unroot for warranty or whatever else, would I need to find a Virgin branded ROM? Or could I just use a generic ROM and update normally? I'm still reading up on the whole root procedure but I want to make sure I know what's going on before I try it.
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i think you would have to re-root with a virgin rom if you sent it to htc for warranty...
on the virgin legend i think we have to downgrade the bootloader before we can root and flash with a new rom
i am also debating on rooting but will probably wait until there is an official 2.2 rom from htc (supposedly this month)
So if that is the case (I agree it probably is), does anybody know where I can find the proper ROM? From what I gather I can't back it up until I've rooted the phone, but to do that I need to downgrade using a generic ROM, which means that I've already lost mine (correct me if I'm wrong...). Shipped-roms doesn't have it. I don't really want to root unless I have the option of at least attempting to reverse it because I'm paying for an extended replacement plan that I don't think I can get out of. Not too worried about the rooting process, but it'd be lame if something else happened and I couldn't unroot to send it back.
benbad said:
So if that is the case (I agree it probably is), does anybody know where I can find the proper ROM? From what I gather I can't back it up until I've rooted the phone, but to do that I need to downgrade using a generic ROM, which means that I've already lost mine (correct me if I'm wrong...). Shipped-roms doesn't have it. I don't really want to root unless I have the option of at least attempting to reverse it because I'm paying for an extended replacement plan that I don't think I can get out of. Not too worried about the rooting process, but it'd be lame if something else happened and I couldn't unroot to send it back.
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The Virgin HTC Legend is the same as Bell's rom wise and shipped roms have Bell's 2.03
Awesome, thanks. I'll try rooting tonight.
OK, so i SBF'ed to 2.1, pulled the battery when it was done, then applied the OTA update to 2.2. Worked fine, then i rooted, but was having problems with the market. All apps showed up, but i had this huge list of items waiting to be downloaded and it didnt budge for hours. So i manually downloaded DX Bootstrapper from the market and tried to install the Tranquility rom. I didnt mount the system the first time i tried to install the Tranquility rom so i went back to do it, but this time i did a factory reset, and wiped the cache, then mounted the system and installed the zip. Then i was stuck on an Endless loop of the Tranquility logo. Attempted an SBF restore back to 2.1, and this time it just failed. Now the phone only turns on to the programming screen and i get this message:
Bootloader
30.03
Err:A5,70,70,00,1F
MEM_MAP Blank
Service Req'd
Battery OK
OK to Program
Transfer Mode:
USB
Should i just go back to Verizon, not sure if they have this in stock, and not sure what questions they will raise when they see this screen.
Well according to a birdman twitter post:
_mrbirdman_
do not flash back to 2.1 sbf after 2.2 0ta, keys/signature check has changed, if you go to 2.2OTA say goodbye to 2.1 forever....
and then he proceeded to say...
_mrbirdman_
Please retweet, everyones about to wake up! DO NOT DOWNGRADE TO 2.1 SBF FROM THE 2.2 OTA, YOU WILL BE BRICKED! UNTILL WE GET A 2.2 SBF LEAK
So until they leak a 2.2 SBF I don't think anything you can do. =(
They've got a thread over at droidforums with a number of people w/ the same problems too.
I got the same problem Now waiting for leaked 2.2 SBF :|
wow, im screwed.
if i tell verizon that i performed an SBF, will they refuse to replace my phone since i took it upon myself to try to service my phone on my own?
GoldenCyn said:
if i tell verizon that i performed an SBF, will they refuse to replace my phone since i took it upon myself to try to service my phone on my own?
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i would tell them you were doing the ota it failed then just play dumb. It almost always works.
now the problem is that there are none in stock so im either gonna have to wait for a 2.2 SBF, or a replacement from verizon (and only god knows how long that will take).
I can't believe Motorola. For a company that is just barely getting their feet back on the ground after years of crappy phones - they sure not how to stick it to the consumer. I know we are just small percentage, BUT THAT'S THE POINT. Leaving it unlocked (aka no eFuse, etc.) would not really effect them much.
went to the store today, and they ordered a phone for me and it will be at my house tomorrow before 3pm by fedex. yay!
Even worse...p3droid warned that tranquility was meant to be applied over deodexed systems and the ota is not deodexed...yet.
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GoldenCyn said:
went to the store today, and they ordered a phone for me and it will be at my house tomorrow before 3pm by fedex. yay!
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That's kind of crazy when you think about it....intentionally brick your phone = get a new (though probably refurbished) phone.
I suppose it would be just about impossible for verizon to determine if the phone was bricked from their update or someone that tried to sbf but gone wrong.
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hello first sorry my english,now let me see if i understaood....i was affreasid about updarte to oficial froyo ota....i am using a leaked froyo with some theme...and deleted some stock apps with root explorer...now my question is if i flash my droid with sbf file and gop back to stock 2.1 and wipe data and everything start over you know....than i upgrade to ota froyo....in this step i will be good??? with no bricked phone???? now my second question can i root this ota...and my last question is it worth since i alrady am in froyo with root with theme??? thanks i hope u undertand my englis hahaha bye and thanks in advance...
denpad2010 said:
hello first sorry my english,now let me see if i understaood....i was affreasid about updarte to oficial froyo ota....i am using a leaked froyo with some theme...and deleted some stock apps with root explorer...now my question is if i flash my droid with sbf file and gop back to stock 2.1 and wipe data and everything start over you know....than i upgrade to ota froyo....in this step i will be good??? with no bricked phone???? now my second question can i root this ota...and my last question is it worth since i alrady am in froyo with root with theme??? thanks i hope u undertand my englis hahaha bye and thanks in advance...
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Yeah, that's the way to do it. sbf to 2.1 > ota > root.
But the only thinig I see that makes it worth it is if you have bad reception on your phone. OTA has new baseband version, which might help. Other than that, I don't really see any advantages.
As always, modder beware
Personally, I think Motorola will drop the anal attitude of locking down hardware in due time. Probably getting significant downplay from it. The number of people bricking the phones might be higher than other types? I don't know. Of course, only time will tell.
As for the OTAU. It's nice and buttery for an official release imo.
meshdub said:
Yeah, that's the way to do it. sbf to 2.1 > ota > root.
But the only thinig I see that makes it worth it is if you have bad reception on your phone. OTA has new baseband version, which might help. Other than that, I don't really see any advantages.
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Ok thanks I think I stay with my leaked froyo
You are the reason Motorola has chosen to lock these devices down. It's awful that you bricked your phone through impatience, carelessness, or imprudence, but you shouldn't expect a free replacement because you couldn't follow directions or misunderstood them. These are probably low on stock because of all the consumers like you who did this. When you think about it, you take the one you initially bought out of circulation and then the replacement which you feel that you are owed. Maybe Motorola made enough, but since you bricked yours, another customer has to wait a week longer to get their first one. Thanks for that. If you are going to attempt these modifications you need to make sure you can handle it or have deep pockets.
Motorola locks these phones down for one reason "Verizon" or whatever carrier the phone is on. Motorola doesn't care if we are root or not but if Verizon says "jump" they say "how high". the better they lock it down the more the carrier likes them.
if we have root and can do things like get free wifi tether Motorola doesn't care they have already sold the phone but Verizon does because it takes from their pockets.
not Moto's fault.
iDroidNow said:
Motorola locks these phones down for one reason "Verizon" or whatever carrier the phone is on. Motorola doesn't care if we are root or not but if Verizon says "jump" they say "how high". the better they lock it down the more the carrier likes them.
if we have root and can do things like get free wifi tether Motorola doesn't care they have already sold the phone but Verizon does because it takes from their pockets.
not Moto's fault.
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This not true, all I'm hearing is fanboyism. What about the Backflip or the Cliq? If you root the Backflip or the Cliq you will lose your manufacturer's warranty not the carrier's warranty. It Motorola's fault not anyone else. Even on the Motorola website they call it illegal when talking about rooting the Cliq, and rooting Android in general. You will your manufacturer's warranty if you root a Motorola Android even if it's on, Verizon, At&t, and or T-Mobile. The carrier's have nothing to do with this.
i bricked my phone installing a new keyboard. no names and it was my fault for not reading before flashing sbf file. learn lesson here doh. anyways, now since i've search and no one has the new sbf 2.2 file yet i called verizon and just said it was stuck in bootloader and i don't know what happened or going on with it. tech help me do this and that and no luck. soooo he said ill send you another phone. ok my question is the phone stuck in bootloader void my warranty? some saaid no and some said yes. anyone bricked thier phone in anyway and just got a replacement and didn't worry about anything else?
I really don't think they check them that close when you send it in. I actually received an already rooted eris for a replacement before I got my dx.
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I want to root my M but don't like the idea of losing my warranty. So what problems have you guys had that would be covered under warranty?
From what I can tell, rooting the stock rom is a software issue and should not void any hardware warranties, and if you break the phone with insurance on it how can they possibly tell any way? The issue arises when you put a custom rom on your phone. I'll give you an example: I bricked my M trying to put a custom rom on it, so i used RSD lite to flash the standard rom, and still had issues, so i went to the Verizon store and gave the some bs and they scanned it and factory reset it for me. Voilà!
Hope this helps!
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I think rooting a phone voids the whole warranty. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't have insurance on it I roll all hard core like that. I'm wondering what have people had problems with?
So, I'm going to get the D802 variant tomorrow.
I want to root this phone, but still be able to use warranty in case I need it.
What I'm going to do is:
1. Root using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448887
2. If I need to un-root to get warranty repair, is it correct all I need to do is flash my stock ROM again and they will have no clue this phone was ever rooted ? if so, (A) can I backup my stock ROM before rooting, so I could use it when I need, and if so, how ? (B) what program do I use to flash my stock ROM, if I want to un-root ?
Thanks!
Edit:
I just saw this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471370
Does this answer my #2 question regarding how to flash my stock ROM ? (so I don't even have to save my ROM, I can download it from there?)
Doesn't anyone has an answer for this ?
This is a very important issue to anyone who root and want to be sure he doesn't lose warranty...
Noam23 said:
Doesn't anyone has an answer for this ?
This is a very important issue to anyone who root and want to be sure he doesn't lose warranty...
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You want a manufacturers warranty you don't root.... You want to root you get insurance.... You have insurance, you won't make a thread like this.
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only LG Italy give warranty also to rooted devices.
nic85 said:
only LG Italy give warranty also to rooted devices.
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I'm not sure what are you talking about... you can definitely root AND have warranty (all around the world). The only thing you need to do is un-root before you send it for warranty repair. This thread deals exactly with that - how to un-root.
I've rooted every phone I've gotten since the Incredible 1 and not once have I unrooted before sending it in for warranty. All they do is check the hardware, hook it up to a machine, and flash the stock software. End of story.