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Does this happen to anyone else?

Friend or someone wants to see your phone... You open your "cool" apps to show them..
Phone freezes, locks up, doesn't operate right..
I swear, I can do whatever I want while alone, at my phone works perfect..
Yesterday I show my friends Slingplayer and Homerun3D, sure enough both programs give me problems..
LOL Was in a bad area for slingplayer to work (it works smoothly all the time) and was lagging.. Of course he was like "its a cool concept but who would would ever deal with the skipping"
LOL I swear it never does this, I tell him..
Then I go to show him the Homerun3D game and of course it locks up on me, lol
It always happens like that,...

Sounds like Murphy is a good friend of yours!
That happens to me sometimes but only when I'm doing something totally unimportant.

Your phone knows that your friends are unworthy to bask in its warm embrace and enlightenment.
It goes into clam mode, shuts up tight and looks like a paperweight until you put it away
That or a bad flash mixed with user error

my windows mobile devices did that all the time, i think i got used to it and only thought about how often it happened when it would screw up in front of a friend.
on evo, i dont have any problems.
not trying to be a smart ass but i bet your using a custom rom.

potna said:
my windows mobile devices did that all the time, i think i got used to it and only thought about how often it happened when it would screw up in front of a friend.
on evo, i dont have any problems.
not trying to be a smart ass but i bet your using a custom rom.
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Yea but I use Fresh's custom Rom..
Besides.. Who here actually doesn't use a custom rom?

More than I honestly thought. There is a ton of info on the evo that I find useful, even though I'm rooted stock.
I find my evo to be the most reliable handset I've had since maybe before smartphones were around. I still can't believe I haven't flashed and reinstalled my OS 10 times by now and I have had this since august. Granted I did do some playing around with Roms when I first got it. But every since I decided to give sense an honest shot, I haven't been back to custom.
This is the first android phone for me and the first time I didn't feel the need to tinker around with every little thing.
I loved wm 6.5 but it was still wm, and it was full of reliability issues. I still miss my old touch pro 2 and its kwyboard, but my evo is way more reliable.
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Picture a layer cake filled with froyo between the layers. A leaky app makes a hole in the layer, froyo leaks up and mixes with the next layers froyo, causing it to spill and the bottom to collapse. The maitre'd named NAND tries to restore it so it looks like the picture on the menu.
One day the froyo got real warm and the menus were changed simultaneously. NAND could not restore it and even the picture had changed.
You see the chef had thought it would be faster and take less work to refill the layers, rather than to assemble and build them when they were ordered.
Mural of the story (modern stories all have walls for murals to be posted on) a pair of dimes - standing on edge.
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task killers take bytes out of the cake when your not looking making it fall faster

Yes it happens all the time! Especially at work where the signal is crappy in the building!
if all fails, i just flip the phone over and say "checkit, it has a kickstand!"

Skeptron said:
Yes it happens all the time! Especially at work where the signal is crappy in the building!
if all fails, i just flip the phone over and say "checkit, it has a kickstand!"
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lmao...kickstand ftw!!!

potna said:
More than I honestly thought. There is a ton of info on the evo that I find useful, even though I'm rooted stock.
I find my evo to be the most reliable handset I've had since maybe before smartphones were around. I still can't believe I haven't flashed and reinstalled my OS 10 times by now and I have had this since august. Granted I did do some playing around with Roms when I first got it. But every since I decided to give sense an honest shot, I haven't been back to custom.
This is the first android phone for me and the first time I didn't feel the need to tinker around with every little thing.
I loved wm 6.5 but it was still wm, and it was full of reliability issues. I still miss my old touch pro 2 and its kwyboard, but my evo is way more reliable.
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I actually love sense and do not see why people wouldn't want it..
I also got an extended battery which I only use when I know I will not be near a power source for a while.. I have the Otterbox case and just LOVE IT!! so I try to keep with the stock battery..
That being said I use Fresh's rom, because its pretty much stock with some extra goodies.. And full Sense..
I really don't have problems with my phone.. Its just typical with Murphys law,, lol

Oh,i did think of something crappy.
When I first got my evo,i was telling my friends about how awesome it is and how sweet the camera and video recording is, now my video doesn't seem all that great. In fact in 720p it looks so crappy and choppy that I don't feel like its worth having or using.
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Just get a higher class SD card and replay that oh crappy video quality scenario all over again.
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lol...i can honestly say that I've never experienced that, thank GOD. Have you figured out the root cause?
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I don't get it, r u saying that something higher than what I have will fix the issue? I currently have a 16GB class 2.
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You can get a 32gb card and still have same issues. You need a class 4 or above. If I could remember I'd post direct statement from htc employee. A lot go with a class 6, but anything more than class 4 and its all the same fluff. Class 2 just doesn't write fast enough for Evo's video.
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I think I saw that conversation about the max speed the evo could take advantage of, but I thought I read some where anything beyond class 2 carries no benefit in how well our evos record video in 720p.
Mine is choppy outside in sunlight and simetimes the video out right freezes for a split second. As far recording inside its so low quality that I don't even try to record.
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LED Camera Flash is dead

I was using Torch to help my friend install his car stereo and I guess I had it on too long, because when I went to use it again the LED wouldnt light up anymore. I tried taking a picture, recording a video, different settings in Torch, but nothing works. Is this something that can be replaced/fixed or do I have a phone without a flash now? I thought LEDs were indestructible...

LED flashes can overheat and burn out.. Oddly enough, their normal lifespan is 20,000 hours. :O So either you were doing some serious lighting, or it was a manufacturer's defect.
try flashing a different ROM and see if the flash works afterwards, if you've been using a custom ROM and are rooted.
If either it does not work after a different ROM, or you have not rooted and flashed a different ROM, i would recommend backing up your stuff and getting a replacement phone. A burned out flash after little, if any heavy use, is a reason for a factory exchange. Definitely.
Good luck, there.

I have the same problem. I will be getting my phone switched out soon. I guess I won't use death ray anymore...

XpoX said:
I was using Torch to help my friend install his car stereo and I guess I had it on too long, because when I went to use it again the LED wouldnt light up anymore. I tried taking a picture, recording a video, different settings in Torch, but nothing works. Is this something that can be replaced/fixed or do I have a phone without a flash now? I thought LEDs were indestructible...
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Have u tried reboot?? Sometimes reboots fix this kind of problem..
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I tried reboot. I am rooted and using a custom rom (Villain's gingerbread 1.2) so I'll try backing up my current setup and restoring a backup from when I know it actually worked. I really dont want to send my phone off, its my only phone line but I may have to.

I think you should just exchange it.
Keep in mind that when you exchange a phone with t-mobile they send you the replacement before you have to send back your own, so there's practically no downtime.
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Oh I didn't know that. I'll get it swapped. The flash makes the camera so much better.
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Damn, but torch clearly gives you the warning that after 45 minutes the LED started glitching. I guess you shoulda thought of that before.
The lifespan of a product might be of many many hourse, but not on one use, just like a normal bulb.

I definitely didnt leave it on for 45 minutes, maybe 5 continuous minutes at the most. I'm thinking its lose or it was going bad anyway. It went out once before randomly (not using Torch that time) and just started working again on its own, so I ignored it. It still hasnt come back on, so I think its dead this time.

I've left mine on strobing at several house parties for at least 3 hours each time (while charging). Now I read this... I'm scared to do it anymore!! Lol
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I have found that different apps produce different levels of brightness. For instance, the app "Tesla LED Torch" uses the full brightness of the flash compared to "LED Light" which uses a much less intense and most likely more sustainable level of brightness.
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The Torch app that comes with most Roms now has 2 different levels. Death ray, and normal. There's a disclaimer when you select death ray because its inviting impending doom upon your phone.
Tmobile has a new one on its way. They were really good about sending me a new one, I just had to follow a few troubleshooting steps and pretend like it wasnt rooted. I told her (helpdesk lady) my original G1 was rooted and custom romed and she started going "nahnahnahnah cant hear you!" Probably the funniest thing any customer support has done with me on the phone.

XpoX said:
The Torch app that comes with most Roms now has 2 different levels. Death ray, and normal. There's a disclaimer when you select death ray because its inviting impending doom upon your phone.
Tmobile has a new one on its way. They were really good about sending me a new one, I just had to follow a few troubleshooting steps and pretend like it wasnt rooted. I told her (helpdesk lady) my original G1 was rooted and custom romed and she started going "nahnahnahnah cant hear you!" Probably the funniest thing any customer support has done with me on the phone.
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Lol! That's funny.
I haven't gotten a new one yet, but I could have sworn that yesterday it turned itself on for a few seconds while I was a few feet away from it lol. I know I saw it, buy I removed all traces of the torch app from /system so i don't know how that's possible. I haven't been able to reproduce.
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XpoX said:
I told her (helpdesk lady) my original G1 was rooted and custom romed and she started going "nahnahnahnah cant hear you!"
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Hahaha, I love it!
Good example of a person doing what's right, instead of just what is in her job script.

redpoint73 said:
Hahaha, I love it!
Good example of a person doing what's right, instead of just what is in her job script.
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That's why their customer service is #1
Haha, but no they r great.
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Anybody know where i can buy G2 parts such as the flash, (i know its a led but i dont wanna sodar) my G2 went swimming with me in vegas (5 minutes under water in a swimming pool) and has sever water damage (all stickers are pink) it works fine and the LED lasted forever, (allways used deathray) but it went out a month or two ago and i been waiting to find parts for it on http://www.cnn.cn but doesnt look like they will have them any time soon.
Thanks.

Thinking of switching from a Desire Z

My buddy is offering me his mytouch 4G for my Desire Z, I'm really tempted to jump ship because the mytouch has a better processor than the Z and much more ram putting it on par with the HD. I am mostly after future compatibility with the new releases like sense 3.0 and anything after. My only worries is that there might be less rom developments within the mytouch community than the Z/G2. I got some questions that I hope you guys can answer
Is the Cyan 7.0.3 for mytouch good? As in no bugs and all? Used a SGS before and even if you could install cyan there were a lot of issues.
Sense 3.0 roms for the mytouch fast?
What about fusion rom? Desire Z has the same rom but has trouble running it due to ram limitations. Does it run really fast with no hiccups at all?
Is there trackpad wake for the mytouch? OC?
Can I assume that the mytouch forums will get all the good stuff the HD forum has?
THANKS!

Yes to all of your questions. CM7 is at rc4 and runs great, but Royal Ginger and Faux's AOSP rom are better still. If you like sense roms, there are plenty to choose from, and ram is not an issue. I am running evil's fusion 1.1, and even though it uses alot of ram, it's smooth as butter. Good luck, but it sounds like this trade is in your favor!

Oh, and yes there is trackpad wake, and plenty of great devs here to satisfy all your needs!

Honestly, DO IT. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
- Thinner, lighter, slightly bigger screen.
- FFC
- Sooo much RAM, makes any Sense ROM run silky smooth
- Lots of awesome TPU cases to make the phone even sleeker
- CM7 is nothing short of awesome on this phone
But some advice, make sure you're getting the good screen which is the SLCD screen and not the washed out TFT screen. Also, make sure you root via the gfree method.
Good luck!

Thanks for the input, appreciate it
Yeah I'm pretty psyched to be able to run sense 3 without any issues. Development for the desire z has pretty much stalled because of ram, speed and keyboard limitation issues.
How do I know if it's SLCD or not? Is there a way to check? I've read the forum and I believe there's no way of knowing unless you have two units side by side.

kingofthebraves said:
Thanks for the input, appreciate it
Yeah I'm pretty psyched to be able to run sense 3 without any issues. Development for the desire z has pretty much stalled because of ram, speed and keyboard limitation issues.
How do I know if it's SLCD or not? Is there a way to check? I've read the forum and I believe there's no way of knowing unless you have two units side by side.
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It's very distinctive. Look at the screen and tilt it in various angles, if the color changes then it's the bad one. Good one's stay the same and look great on any angle.
Also, you can check by opening up the market. Then look at any app, whatever app is featured on the front page. Lets say it's Google Maps, under it you'll see the name of the developer of the app, in this case it would be Google Inc or whatever. It should be gray when you look straight at it, but when you tilt it it should disappear if you have the bad screen.

What do you think? I can't tell from the shots
http://tipidcp.com/viewitem.php?iid=2659013

Honestly from the looks of it to me it seems like the bad one. But I'm not 100% sure. There's a way to check by using terminal emulator. I forgot the command but it's in that thread on good vs bad screen in the general section. Or might be in the q&a section... I'll check.
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Restart your phone and immediately open the Terminal emulator and type "dmesg" without quotes. You will see a lot of data. Just scroll all the way back to the top and look around line 14-15 and you will see a line that ends with Panel Type=1 or Panel Type=2
Panel type 1 is the bad screen and Panel type 2 is the good screen.
I figured out today I have the good one!
There is more information on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863679
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I tried the test and it was type 1 tsk, but you could easily tell it was the bad screen. The colors are indeed washed out. Decided not to get the unit because it couldn't recognize my sim card even if it was unlocked lol

kingofthebraves said:
I tried the test and it was type 1 tsk, but you could easily tell it was the bad screen. The colors are indeed washed out. Decided not to get the unit because it couldn't recognize my sim card even if it was unlocked lol
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I'd still do the trade even with the TFT screen, but with the sim issue your choice was easy.

While you are at it, you can check for the emmc chip to see if it is the good one or bad one that maybe failing in some mt4g phones?

[Q] How good a phone is this ?

Ig Going to Upgrade from my Lg optimus and was wanting to get the g2x but have heard that it has too many problems so i was looking at this one and saw it had all of my favorite roms i really dont like the design of the phone or mysense but custom roms make up for all of that . The thing is that the hardware old now that there are more dualcore phones And the screen is small for what i was wanting. Can you all give me some feedback or maybe suggest some better alternatives ?

Its solid. Battery life is fair, don't expect to be away from the charger. But thats common with Android phones.
There are 2 screens/displays. If you get one, you will get a nice one (bright colors) or the washed up one thats all white and just is terrible.
I have the one with the washed up screen but didn't really notice it until I got a G2X. However, from my experience here is what I find:
Stock Rom: Its solid. I never had any complaints with it. It will bogg down and lagg, but its expected. You get used to it after a while, but the phone was solid in Stock Rom. Never had problems while using it. Camera is decent. Sense 2.1 is alright, I like it. You won't have complaints
If you feel adventurous, you can Root it and flash ROMS. CM7 and Virtious Unity are the best alternative to the stock ROM. You'll get a performance boost.
Personally I bought a G2X thinking its better and in many ways it is. However, the one thing that just disgusts me about my phone is just how washed up screen is. Its not that is defective, just that HTC used different manufacturers for the display and I got the one that looks all washed up and just looks terrible. When compared to the G2X, the difference is night and day.
If not for that, I probably would still be using this phone. Mytouch 4G has been good to me. I have it as a spare. But if you haven't been spoiled by a bright, rich color, and contrast. Give it a shot. 50/50 on getting a good display. Overall the phone is great.
I mean get it if you can't wait. I won't lie, G2X took time to find a stable ROM. There are issues, but you'll have to test and tweak before finding stable ground. Or you might be lucky and get a bright/good display. LG can rot for producing such trash of a ROM. I'm on a G2X. But I do miss the stable myTouch 4G.

Umm I see. If I Get a bad one I can replace until I get lucky and get a good one right? I don't like the stock ui so yea I was planning on putting cm7 miui or virtuous unity are those smooth and stable?
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fr0zenblood75 said:
Umm I see. If I Get a bad one I can replace until I get lucky and get a good one right? I don't like the stock ui so yea I was planning on putting cm7 miui or virtuous unity are those smooth and stable?
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mt4g addict here, it's basically the best single core phone out there, i haven't seen anyone with a bad display yet (socal)
you will love this phone, it is definitely a beast.
I never used miui but every top rom out there is smooth and stable on here.
virtuous unity, royalginger (it's like cm7 that is stripped down and supercharged) heard a lot of good things about faux's rom. But i'm definitely attached to virtuous unity right now.
Forewarning, you will go on a flashing craze the first time you get this phone because every rom on here is amazing. there's a lot of great devs on here.
comparison, my friend, cousin, and brother has the samsung galaxy 4g and is jealous of my phone
my friend with the g2x is jealous of it.
However, right now I'm a bit jealous of the sensation and the devs that are heading over there.

MT4G is a good phone. I was hesitant to buy one after I dropped in broke my Vibrant screen.
It very speedy and the battery life is decent. My only complaint is I was/am used to the Super AMOLED display but after one month of using my old Blackberry this screen is beautiful.

From what I have seen if the phone was made in china you will get a good display. I think the washed out one is made in taiwan. check under the battery before it gets installed.
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Thanks guys I was looking at it and ended up picking up a sensation
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fr0zenblood75 said:
Thanks guys I was looking at it and ended up picking up a sensation
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Nice choice, that seems to be a pretty awesome phone. Havent heard bad things about it yet and they just barely got into unlocking the bootloader and rooting that device. Hope to see good things from it.

eqjunkie829 said:
Nice choice, that seems to be a pretty awesome phone. Havent heard bad things about it yet and they just barely got into unlocking the bootloader and rooting that device. Hope to see good things from it.
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Yea its really nice I dont regret it and battery life is really good . Im actually gonna wait a while to root it probobly when cm7 and miui get released for it . I have not found any defect so far

I had a bad one from china
Axe_Thrasher said:
From what I have seen if the phone was made in china you will get a good display. I think the washed out one is made in taiwan. check under the battery before it gets installed.
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tvotony said:
I had a bad one from china
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I have both, Bad and good, from china

I upgraded to the Photon Q

Minus the keyboard, I'm really loving this phone.
I'll still be around this forum.

It is a nice phone for sure. I played with one a week or so ago. I'm still waiting for the Nexus announcements and the such
Shifted from a Zombie Wasteland

What is it about the keyboard you don't like?
I'm a padowan with no master.

Well I have to say it wasn't a bad choice. It seems to be a nice Device. I used one for a few hours at Best Buy. Minus it not having Sense, it's really nice Device. I kind of liked the Keyboard. Enjoy it .

Speedy has to have one of the best keyboards in my opinion the Droid 4 has a cool one with the lights on it but doesn't seem as good.
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I thought about picking up the photon q. Seemed like a great phone, but the hd screen kept me on the EVO 4G LTE.
I kind of liked the keyboard of the photon too, but can't say I'd tried it out for an extended period of time
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VICODAN said:
Minus the keyboard, I'm really loving this phone.
I'll still be around this forum.
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What kind of battery life are you getting, since you cannot remove and upgrade the battery?

I thought this was an interesting keyboard mod.
I'm a padowan with no master.

Aaargh! said:
What kind of battery life are you getting, since you cannot remove and upgrade the battery?
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I don't have the q "yet" but I did see on amazon that there is a sedio extended life battery available. It comes with a new back and all so I expect that it can likely be moded to more easily remove the batt if it becomes an issue.
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
What is it about the keyboard you don't like?
I'm a padowan with no master.
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I keep hitting the damn m when im trying to hit the n key.. that's the main thing.

Aaargh! said:
What kind of battery life are you getting, since you cannot remove and upgrade the battery?
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Battery life is great and so is performance. Problem is when the phone dies and you plug it back in you can't turn it on immediately. That is really annoying.

How is it? My Shift is nearly dead after being dropped many times. The LED notification light no longer works, the power button gets stuck and hard to press, and it's just running sluggishly in general (though this could be my ROM, I'm running kushdeck's ICS pb21). I'm not eligible for an upgrade until July, so I might need to replace my Shift.