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Hello everyone,
I have a problem on my phone. It is not very bad but still I would like to now if someone else experienced it. So, maybe 1 times out of 3 on power on, a little band of the bottom of my screen is seen on the top of the screen. As soon as I switch on my phone, I can see that the red text with rom version is cut on its bottom, and I see some red things at the top of the screen. I thought it was the so called "screen alignement" issue, but it appears it is not the same at all (but still, I think that I may have a very little SA issue, barely noticeable). As I said it is not very annoying (like 2 mm of screen is involved), but in landscape mode, my scrolling bar is difficult to use (maybe half of it disappear).
So if anyone else has the same problem, or some explanation, he is welcome!
Thank you
Toni
Sorry for the double post, but I think I maybe found an answer in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321163
Everything is related to the connector of the screen. HTC can suck so much on some details like this... As I also have the d-pad problem, I think it must be that. Difficult to find the link at first sight!
Hi all,
I think my display has a problem of flickering: I noticed it going to "system status" window by clicking on battery, or signal icon. Here you have a gray stripped background that on my display seems to be unstable...something like flashing. I have the same impression if I look at the headers stripes of the tabs, where you find, "People", "Messages" etc...
The strange thing is that what ever I see, pictures, different windows, they all seems to be very stable, no flashing...flickering...problem.
Now I ask to myself, could it be an optical effect due to the pattern of that specific background?
I make the same answer to you all...and did somone notice the same problem?
Please answer me becouse I should have to replace it if I really have this trouble...
THX so much!
asci said:
Hi all,
I think my display has a problem of flickering: I noticed it going to "system status" window by clicking on battery, or signal icon. Here you have a gray stripped background that on my display seems to be unstable...something like flashing. I have the same impression if I look at the headers stripes of the tabs, where you find, "People", "Messages" etc...
The strange thing is that what ever I see, pictures, different windows, they all seems to be very stable, no flashing...flickering...problem.
Now I ask to myself, could it be an optical effect due to the pattern of that specific background?
I make the same answer to you all...and did somone notice the same problem?
Please ask me becouse I should have to replace it if I really have this trouble...
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Did you try a Clear Storage followed by a Hard Reset?
@tnyynt
Thank you for your replay.
Other people suggested it to me. I've tried it right now and it had no effect, I'm still having the same problem.
BTW: Clear Storage performs by itself a HardReset after typing 1234...am I right?
I too am noticing this flickering on the top bar. I couldn't work it out. No idea what it is, but quite glad I'm not the only one with it. No idea if it is an illusion or a fault though. Can anyone else confirm?
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@tnyynt
Thank you for your replay.
Other people suggested it to me. I've tried it right now and it had no effect, I'm still having the same problem.
BTW: Clear Storage performs by itself a HardReset after typing 1234...am I right?
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Yes, you are right, but it's a different one than the normal Hard Reset.
Try to change brightness of the backlight, for example turn it off and check then.
asci said:
Hi all,
I think my display has a problem of flickering: I noticed it going to "system status" window by clicking on battery, or signal icon. Here you have a gray stripped background that on my display seems to be unstable...something like flashing. I have the same impression if I look at the headers stripes of the tabs, where you find, "People", "Messages" etc...
The strange thing is that what ever I see, pictures, different windows, they all seems to be very stable, no flashing...flickering...problem.
Now I ask to myself, could it be an optical effect due to the pattern of that specific background?
I make the same answer to you all...and did somone notice the same problem?
Please answer me becouse I should have to replace it if I really have this trouble...
THX so much!
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thats normal. it has something to do with the refreshrate. that occours on every phone and pc monitor and so on. it always depends on what you are viewing at the momeent and often occurs when there are many very thin lines like at the top of the HD.
I have noticed no flickering at all.
@tnyynt
Do you mean I should perform a normal Hard Reset? How can I do it...I still haven't discover how to do it...
@Raziel1
It would be normal if everyone could see it on their HD, but it seems that only some terminals have this problem...Do you mean so that my HD has no problem?
THX to all!
Raziel1 said:
thats normal. it has something to do with the refreshrate. that occours on every phone and pc monitor and so on. it always depends on what you are viewing at the momeent and often occurs when there are many very thin lines like at the top of the HD.
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A LCD display shouldnt flicker. It's either a hardware or software problem. Old CRT-monitors and TVs flickered because they "painted" the picture from top to bottom, and if they didnt do it fast enough it was perceived as flickering. LCD displays uses a dot matrix and shouldnt flicker regardless refreshrate.
Marinese said:
A LCD display shouldnt flicker. It's either a hardware or software problem. Old CRT-monitors and TVs flickered because they "painted" the picture from top to bottom, and if they didnt do it fast enough it was perceived as flickering. LCD displays uses a dot matrix and shouldnt flicker regardless refreshrate.
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Do you mean that I'm calling my display problem improperly or that it really can be a problem of this kind of display and so it means it is broken?
I have been noticing this exact same flickering, and couldn't decide if it was normal or not!?
but this flickering only occures when there are certain things on the screen like the thin lines of top of the home screen. its not the screen itself which is flickering. maybe it has something to do with vision and not with a technical aspect. the same thing can be seen on every screen i ever looked at. you can try it out, by taking a picture of a pc monitor at close range with high resolution. when you look at it and scroll around with zoom, it will often flicker like hell because of all the details and maybe downscaling or whatever
asci said:
Do you mean that I'm calling my display problem improperly or that it really can be a problem of this kind of display and so it means it is broken?
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I havent seen the problem myself so it's hard to tell. You can often see by looking at it if its a software or hardware problem. If it's a software problem its just a certain part, for example a window titlebar, that flickers. This is usually caused by bad programming, the programmer has told the program to repaint with a certain interval even if there is no change. If it's a hardware problem the flickering usually isnt constrained to parts of the window, for example it doesnt follow the titlebar. Instead its usually diffuse parts of the screen that flickers.
@Marinese
Uhm...I'm figuring out how to test it...If I look at a picture, I can't notice the problem, and it seems to be localized on upper bars and on some particular windows I told before. If I could flash it with another ROM...but it's not HardSPL yet and I would keep it in warrenty untill my provider/seller TIM tell me what to do with it. So it could be a ROM problem too?
It would be usefull to have two of them placed side by side
and see the differences...
For me it seems to happen when the brightness is set to high, or I am in a well lit room with auto brightness enabled. With the brightness reduced I see no flickering...
Does that give any clue as to whether it is hardware or software? It seems to be dark colours that flicker.
@evilskanker
Uhm perhaps if you reduce brightness, you reduce the visibility of the problem as well...
I don't know about the dark colours...but I took a black picture and it doesn't flicker...
I have that exact same issue..
Altought I only notice it, on the upper horizontal lines on the RIGHT in TouchFlo3D.
What is the reason for that? And how to solve it?
Thanks.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing, but what I have is quick fluctuation in the brightness level without changes in the ambient lighting. You could call it flickering, although I would say it's not as fast as a flicker in my case. It seems to me it has something to do with the light sensor and its sensitivity. I would like to think that a ROM update will sort it, but we will have to wait and see. I'm not doing anything about yet.
@atomikpt
It's the same of mine and also try to go to "system status" window by clicking on battery, or signal icon and take look of what it happens.
@arisg
Nothing to do with your case. Consider that I desabled the light sensor and I'm using brightness to its maximum level.
Sometimes the touch screen is WAY off and only restart is fixing it. Noticed this 2 times already.....
I've noticed this too. I was using the browser, and my screen presses were registering as all sorts of random things (like pressing the middle of the screen would press the zoom button). Restarting the browser seemed to fix it.
Add it to the nexus one issue list.
Postal76 said:
I've noticed this too. I was using the browser, and my screen presses were registering as all sorts of random things (like pressing the middle of the screen would press the zoom button). Restarting the browser seemed to fix it.
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that's from a lack of multitouch. your hand is probably just barely touching the lower corner of the glass. when you press again in the middle, it registers on the softkeys. it is one of the things I *HATE* about this phone. I always seem to be touching the screen on the very edge. you almost cant use it with just one hand.
I find that I do that with my HTC Magic sometimes as well, the 'webbing' between my thumb and index finger sometimes touches the corner of the screen and brings up the 'app menu' in my left hand, or the 'add widget' menu in my right hand (sense ui). Just another general thing about touch screens and their placement
the four touch buttons arent that accurate. didnt have this problem on the droid. i rarely miss it there but on the nexus is becoming 50/50 chance of it not registering.
Lol how are you guys holding the phone, i always use it one handed and havent expirienced this, i guess everyones different.
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that's from a lack of multitouch. your hand is probably just barely touching the lower corner of the glass. when you press again in the middle, it registers on the softkeys. it is one of the things I *HATE* about this phone. I always seem to be touching the screen on the very edge. you almost cant use it with just one hand.
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This not necessarily a problem with this phone in particular. It is a phenonema that happens on all capacitive touch screens (that do not have multitouch). I work with them all the time (much larger scale) and the slightest touch on a border results in what appear to be calibration issues.
Multi touch takes into account for this, non multitouch does not.
This has happened to me also. Same exact thing, in the browser, the touch was way off, really way off. I was pressing the middle and the zoom button pressed. It was on the table so I know my other hand didn't touch it. It was also vibrating sometimes when I pressed the middle of it. Restarting seems to have fixed it for now.
happened to me in SMS and browser and the only fix was restart the phone.....so its not me accidentally touching the screen in another point.
ps. its so bad that i couldnt even use touch screen to power off the phone. i had to use track ball. (now i know why its there )
I've had this problem as well as other with touch screen. Sometimes I will hit an icon on the main screen and it will jump screens. When I'm in the menu's i hit one of the options and it goes to the one underneath it. I'm CLEARLY hitting the option I want and not the one below so it is infact a hardware problem in my case. I will be in the browser and hit a button and it will exit out of the browser, very annoying! Mine is unlocked but I wrote HTC so lets see what they say.
its a known prob with this phone, ppl are complaining all over Google forum, its very annoying, when it happens it doesn't just happen in the browser, also in text message n home screen ect...
jamesyb0i said:
I find that I do that with my HTC Magic sometimes as well, the 'webbing' between my thumb and index finger sometimes touches the corner of the screen and brings up the 'app menu' in my left hand, or the 'add widget' menu in my right hand (sense ui). Just another general thing about touch screens and their placement
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Webbed fingers are gross.
I have now experienced this definitively once. It happened while using the dolphin browser. I wiped the screen off, set it on a table, poked with only one finger, and could not for the life of me get the software keyboard to click on the correct button. Just wouldn't happen. Had to restart the phone to fix it. But it's only happened once since I got the thing on launch day.
^ same thing for me. Does the OTA fix this, I have not received it yet. Wish I saw this before I created a thread, sorry.
s15274n said:
^ same thing for me. Does the OTA fix this, I have not received it yet. Wish I saw this before I created a thread, sorry.
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i dunno, but touches (especially multitouch) seems ALOT more responsive and accurate than before i did the new update... i used dolphin prior and pinch zooming seemed jittery and like the phone didnt want me to do it... now everything seems smooth as butter!
obviously this is only short term though, but hopefully this fix will also address some of the calibration issues (that i also experienced) that the N1 has been known to have...
So, at some point in the past month (honestly, no idea for how long it's been going on), I've noticed an odd behavior on my OP2 and I'm trying to figure out troubleshooting suggestions to verify it is software and not a hardware issue.
TL;DR: I'm trying to figure out why the Back button occasionally fires on it's own.
Longer version:
I've only noticed this in a couple different apps, like Skype and Marvel Puzzle Quest, where the back button's effects are particularly noticeable.
The problem seems most prevalent in the morning, oddly enough. I rarely seem to notice it happen at night. I have verified I'm not touching the phone by playing MPQ with the phone on the counter and only touching the gems I wanted to match, no where near the bottom of the phone.
I've enabled the Pointer location in dev options, but it doesn't look like touching the non-on screen bar effects registers on the bar, so I can't tell if something else is firing it off that way.
Can anyone recommend some way to try to narrow this down short of just pinging OP support to do a hardware swap?
Hello, been visiting the boards for a long time, but I didn't register because I had nothing to contribute really. <.<
I currently have a i9505 running on cm13 6.0.1.
Last night when I wanted to reply to a text I used the right side lock screen shortcut that's set to messaging the circular motion thingy messed up the edge of my screen. (I didn't realize until later that it's not actually a hardware issue if you ask me.)
Some pictures, screenshots don't register anything:
CAN'T POST IMAGES because I'm a new user. :/
It's on imgur, with /a/Murqy extension after .com. Album of three images.
Messaging shortcut thingy on the second screen is a lock-screen burn in, as is lock screen in the middle of the first screen.
Sorry for the garbage quality screens, I don't have any other spare phone except for the ancient Sony Ericsson with me atm.
At first this obviously looks like some display issue or a burn-in. I've checked the display, it has absolutely no scratches.
I've also read about the quality issues of some S4 phones and glass+display being glued together which can lead to yellowish tint. And how display breaks easily because of bad build quality and too much pressure being put on the display itself.
Anyhow, ever since that brown/yellow thing appeared the right/left lock screen shortcut animations stopped showing. And that thing is the exact size of the lock screen shortcut animation.
Also, those three burned in lock screen buttons, phone/unlock/messaging aren't really burn ins. When I try to press any of them in the bugged state when the screen is already unlocked, the dropdown menu activates. Also when I use dropdown menu myself, those 3 buttons are instantly gone without leaving a trace. And when the dropdown menu is activated, the yellowish corner translates from the background to the menu itself. Icons on the home screen in the background aren't yellow anymore, but icons in the dropdown menu are.
So, I'm completely at loss what to do here. I don't wanna use one of those burn in removal apps to mess my phone up, I don't have a warranty because I got it used like less than a month ago and everything was working fine. And I don't wanna take it to a repair shop because they'll just tell me the display is messed up.
There's just too much coincidence here for me to believe it's a classic case of display burn in.
Why wouldn't lock screen shortcut animations show up anymore if that was the case? Even on the left side which is completely fine. And it just appeared out of nowhere when I used one of those shortcuts. As if animation is stuck in there.
Sorry for the wall of text, but wanted to explain it in detail as I couldn't find anything similar anywhere else. <.<
Perke- said:
Hello, been visiting the boards for a long time, but I didn't register because I had nothing to contribute really. <.<
I currently have a i9505 running on cm13 6.0.1.
Last night when I wanted to reply to a text I used the right side lock screen shortcut that's set to messaging the circular motion thingy messed up the edge of my screen. (I didn't realize until later that it's not actually a hardware issue if you ask me.)
Some pictures, screenshots don't register anything:
CAN'T POST IMAGES because I'm a new user. :/
It's on imgur, with /a/Murqy extension after .com. Album of three images.
Messaging shortcut thingy on the second screen is a lock-screen burn in, as is lock screen in the middle of the first screen.
Sorry for the garbage quality screens, I don't have any other spare phone except for the ancient Sony Ericsson with me atm.
At first this obviously looks like some display issue or a burn-in. I've checked the display, it has absolutely no scratches.
I've also read about the quality issues of some S4 phones and glass+display being glued together which can lead to yellowish tint. And how display breaks easily because of bad build quality and too much pressure being put on the display itself.
Anyhow, ever since that brown/yellow thing appeared the right/left lock screen shortcut animations stopped showing. And that thing is the exact size of the lock screen shortcut animation.
Also, those three burned in lock screen buttons, phone/unlock/messaging aren't really burn ins. When I try to press any of them in the bugged state when the screen is already unlocked, the dropdown menu activates. Also when I use dropdown menu myself, those 3 buttons are instantly gone without leaving a trace. And when the dropdown menu is activated, the yellowish corner translates from the background to the menu itself. Icons on the home screen in the background aren't yellow anymore, but icons in the dropdown menu are.
So, I'm completely at loss what to do here. I don't wanna use one of those burn in removal apps to mess my phone up, I don't have a warranty because I got it used like less than a month ago and everything was working fine. And I don't wanna take it to a repair shop because they'll just tell me the display is messed up.
There's just too much coincidence here for me to believe it's a classic case of display burn in.
Why wouldn't lock screen shortcut animations show up anymore if that was the case? Even on the left side which is completely fine. And it just appeared out of nowhere when I used one of those shortcuts. As if animation is stuck in there.
Sorry for the wall of text, but wanted to explain it in detail as I couldn't find anything similar anywhere else. <.<
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I'm not familiar with burn-ins, but since it's a used phone the probability of the screen being messed up is high.
If it really is a software glitch, the only option would be to flash a different rom. If it continues, flash a stock rom via Odin. If the problem still persists, then it's most probably a hardware issue.
Remember, the flashes have to be clean flashes. As clean as possible. Dirty flashes won't help, especially when trying to find the root of a problem.
I've had it for nearly a month now and I didn't have a single issue.
As I've said, it's probably not a burn in because it just appeared like that due to one animation.
And since it's also there when I boot into recovery I don't think flashing a new ROM would help.
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MuF123 said:
http://i.imgur.com/j4t9fEA.jpg
Is this gradient (around the icon) visible to naked eye? This is really nasty Just a guesswork: this could be one of failure modes for amoled. I have 8 weird rectangles burned in over the whole screen and really don't know where they came from.
Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603039 evidently even light from outside can burn in your screen.
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Yea, it's visible.
That's the far right shortcut on the dock.
But the weird thing is that it just disappears if I try to click it.
Same goes for the lock screen shortcuts as I've said already, that's why I'm not sure it's a regular case of screen burn.
And when I pull down the dropdown menu, the color of the desktop goes back to normal, but dropdown menu icons in the bottom right turn yellowish, as if the tint translated to the screen that's being used at that moment.
After I realized that I tried to mess around with color saturation and brightness.
Changing brightness had no effect, lowering it would just make that corner darker, but as I dropped down color saturation on all of the RGB components more and more it became less and less noticable.
But the buggy lock screen shortcuts still puzzle me. They remain on the desktop after I unlock the phone, but are instantly gone as soon as I click them.
If it wasn't for that, I'd be pretty sure the screen broke because of bad build quality. I read about the display having too much pressure put on it, somewhat of a design flaw.
Gonna try that burn in app, what's the worst thing that could happen to a broken display. <.<
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MuF123 said:
Does it disappear if you press and hold without actually doing something? Make a screenshot and display the image fullscreen as if it was lockscreen, will it happen again? While showing the screenshot, press and hold on the icon, any change?
Does all of the gradient disappear or just the icon burn in?
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If I hold it, it actually works (eg taking me to messages or phone menu as if the screen was locked). It doesn't appear on screenshot, only after I unlock the phone. That's what's puzzling me, it's not actually burned in, it looks like an issue with the display when I change screens (from locked to unlocked or switching from desktop to broswer like in that screenshot with the burned in icon, as soon as I click it it also disappears, same as shortcuts).
And gradient gradually disappears as I lower the color saturation. Disappears fully at around 30% for all RGB components. But brightness is way too low then.
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MuF123 said:
I know, I just wanted you to make your phone display the same content as if it was locked - but now the image would be screenshot and not the actual lockscreen... I know this sounds really wild, but I don't see any better troubleshooting ideas here
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I get your point, like I'm leaning towards display issue but not a classic one but a weird one because it has issues with switching screens.
Idk, I'm gonna roll with this for a couple more days, if it gets worse it's definitely the display.
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MuF123 said:
Just out curiosity - maybe you could make a video how this behaves
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Maybe tomorrow if I find a half-decent camera.
Actually, I made a screencast.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oGRFj88fgqgT3vWrS/giphy.gif
As you can see, after I unlock the screen, all three shortcuts are burned in.
When I press the burned in unlock icon it just briefly opens the dropdown menu (it wasn't me opening it at that point, when I clicked the lock screen icon in the middle)
Yellow tint in the bottom can't be seen on the video.