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I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
Oh.....ok....
masteroe12 said:
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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what an insightful post, you're in an XDA forum but you're too lazy to "hack" your phone
windows phone 7 is still a baby compared to android and iOS. the partnership with nokia means the ovi store is merging with the marketplace, so this should help, plus the changes in free submissions (allowing 99 free submissions i think) will also help.
its also worth remembering that windows phone 7 on a HD2 is also not official, so i dont see why you would have an issue with unofficial registry hacks!
personally the limitation for me is apps. having used android, i got into the habbit of downloading apps out of bordem, but that is more limited on wp7. i also think the pricing for some of the apps and gams is a little high compared with other platforms. but these often change with time.
i quite like zune in comparison with windows mobile device centre, but i do agree it has some similaritys with itunes.
dont use it if u dont like it
Mrakes said:
dont use it if u dont like it
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Exactly,
Don't buy it if you're not going to eat it
Edit :
Btw, Your title is just, with all respect, stupid.
Wp7 on hd2 and 1gb of cab file storage
Thanks to all the guys that were involved in developing wp7 for the Hd2. What do you think if Microsoft allowed 1gb of cab file storage on the wp7 platform of the costumers choosing, and they could add or remove files as they please in that 1gb of space?
That's a shame. Put a little time in and get alot out!! You really are missing out.
masteroe12 said:
I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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Wowwww.!!!! This one of the most insightful post !!!!!
Ok m8.... You are probably the XDA guy that ask for help to a problem ...nad the solution is 3-4 posts above !!!!!
Ok.. no prob.... its an alternative to a lot of guys arround here ... and they are lucky to be XDA members...
colossus
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
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omarza said:
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
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I'm totally with you - the Zune pass got me. I love being able to tag something with Shazam and then have the song or album in a few minutes from the Marketplace.
I have random issues with sound from my headphones, and having to flip to video mode to get the camera to focus kinda bites at times, but those are minor issues compared to all the reboots, hangs, freezes I had with even the stock 6.x rom -
WP7 is great, so great that I almost daily want to go get a real HD7 so I have full hardware functionality.
berbecverde said:
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
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Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
I just need gps with maps on the device. is this suppose to be on the ovi store? when is that coming?
I too am using dual boot to wp7 and android and enjoying how they compliment each other with both having there strong points that makes up for their individual short comings.
As the wp7 build matures it will only get better. The wp7 takes about 15 seconds to load and the sd android build that I have takes less than 3mins so I can live with switching back and forth.
I really like netflix, the call quality, and email on wp7. Games, gps, maps, flash support, internet browsing, video, and camera I prefer the android build I use.
For me the switching between the two OSs works well.
by definition it is an alternative.
I suppoes you mean, isnt a "good" alternative
My question to you is alternative to what? an iphone? android? pen and paper? carrier Pigeons?
and even then, "good" is subjective, carrier pigeons and pen and paper have many uses that my phone wouldnt be "good" alternative for, for instance i couldnt feed my phone bread in the park, or let me kid run after it flapping like a bird scaring them away, and coming back to IT, i find its completely fine, works, works well, its a perfect "alternative" for me
Huge sweeping statments are a bit daft, fair doos, its not your cup of tea, but i dont think we have to hear about it, after all i couldnt care less what your opinion is because i have my own as do you and thats your right. but im not going to start a thread telling all about my opinion, especially since all your opinions of what are bad are in the public domain, you would have known about them before you even installed it, so its not even a constructive debate or indeed a question,
infact what is the point? to regurgitate the same information thats already been around the block several times?
dgabriel said:
Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
berbecverde said:
I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
Gabe3 said:
I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/copilot-live-navigation-not-coming-to-windows-phone-7
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/tomtom-disinterested-in-windows-phone-7-too
Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?
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Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?
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As you see in my sig below, I currently run Athine OS.
I dont need Android HD2 anymore. too many problems occur that cause bad blocks in its NAND.
Cheers..
Yea, I still use it. Oh, don't get me wrong. I tried Android and WP7. I just don't think they gave me enough reason to switch over completely. Occasionally boot Android but that's mainly because my son likes Fruit Ninja.
Edit: I run Dutty's 6.5.x ROM.
Cenobite_ said:
Yea, I still use it. Oh, don't get me wrong. I tried Android and WP7. I just don't think they gave me enough reason to switch over completely. Occasionally boot Android but that's mainly because my son likes Fruit Ninja.
Edit: I run Dutty's 6.5.x ROM.
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same for me but reverse is true.aftrer finding vplayer advnce ang moboplayer i dont need wm.it sucks.now on dhd rafdroid build.
I've just gone back to winmo, had nand android and wp7 but with micro usb probs gone back to winmo and quite happy
after 3 phones my 4th works perfect, and it does make a big difference, no freezes random shutoffs, reboots it works perfect and i am very happy with it. plus i am tired of tweaking the phone and modding it, i just want to use and enjoy it. i will go to android someday, i love what my friends android's do, but i am stickin with 6.5 and sense, and cht. it is so nice when you get a great running phone. i do not have to even clear temp files anymore, even though i do every while, when i think of it.
Heading back to winmo as soon as I get a few hours to update my kitchen.
Bored of android, no clue how to tweak it, miss the registry.
Yes love it to the max...
Best smartphone os ever..
I have to say I am amazed anyone is still using winmo, Android is stable on the HD2, if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong
Could'nt go back to winmo now, would missed all the games and other apps you just cant get with winmo. The only thing I miss a little is the performance of coreplayer but some of the new video app releases are nearly there now.
+ nobody is really developing for winmo anymore, closed platform, let it die in peace people
Still the one for me
I've been using WM since the Pocket PC Phone 2003 version. I really like it. I don't play many games, but I have dozens of applications that I have collected over the years (mostly free), and the HD2 runs WM better than any phone I've owned. I also like the fact that I can customize it using the registry, and the integration with MS Office applications, including Outlook.
I have Android on my tablet, but I prefer WM.
The only reason that I have Android on my HD2 (SD card version) is so that I can play with SPB Mobile 3D. Other than that, I still love WinMo. It does what I want it to do better than the other OS's available.
Android and WP7 run well, if not a bit heavy on battery. But at the end of the day, I always end up with WinMo 6.5 as my daily driver.
stoolzo said:
I have to say I am amazed anyone is still using winmo, Android is stable on the HD2, if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong
Could'nt go back to winmo now, would missed all the games and other apps you just cant get with winmo. The only thing I miss a little is the performance of coreplayer bult some of the new video app releases are nearly there now.
+ nobody is really developing for winmo anymore, closed platform, let it die in peace people
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Glad you like Android on your HD2 and everyone is untitled to their preceded OS. But from your post Windows Mobile was not an OS for you anyway as Win Mo is more occasion true power users OS and a business oriented OS. Not for people that like to play games and just use social networks. Win Mo gives you a true mobile computing capabilities where Android is still paling so much in this area in my opinion. So you see your statement that "if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong" is totally incorrect as if it was not for Win Mo you would not have Android or IOS. You see Win Mo was the first true mobile OS and any other OS is simply just playing catch up in my mind. Yes Android,Wp7, and IOS all run smoother than Win Mo but all lack the true functionality of Win Mo. I you ask me Microsoft shot their self in the foot when they decided to stop development of Win Mo and created WP7 unless WP7 makes massive leaps in the next year. Also there is still plenty of development of Windows Mobile, I regularly see articles on Windows Mobile in the XDA portal like at least tw to three times a week. No harm meant friend just speaking my opinion
Now as far as the subject at hand I am currently running Hyperdriid from NAND. Which I have to say I like, I only went NAND though to see what all the fuss was about and for the hands on experience of it, I have only been running NAND for three weeks. But like member Samsamueal I will probably be going back to Win Mo before long. I do not like the way copy and past works on Android. I not like how the task managers in Android work, tasked more time to close a application. I absolutely hate that the Android keyboard does not have directional buttons on it,the little arrow icon thing is total crap as far as actually being usable, and you have to hit the symbol button to get any symbol where in Win Mo you do not. I do not like the fact that you can not choice where you want to download files to or save files to, and when you save pictures from mms you can not choose where they go. You have to save to the default location then manually move them to where you want them. You just have a app tray not a true started menu that you can navigate similar to a real computer. You can not have a file to just save games in and then assess from the app tray to cut down on clutter the same is true with any other thing you would want to do this with like tools, media, and etc.Android is still playing catch up in the functionality area to me
Peace
is it coincidence that ive come across this thread after returning to winmo from a few days on android?? no......its fate... fate I tells ya.....
Anyway... yeah lots of people still use WM.
If it had a decent forum reading app i wouldn't need Android at all.....
I'm trying to use android daily - there are a lot of things I like about it. However, when I need a rock solid performance (i.e. on a business trip, etc.) I reboot back into winmo 6.5. I know it, what it does, how long the battery will last, etc. I also know what it doesn't do, that Android does better (imho). I think there is more flexibility in apps on android. But the open platform causes issues. It's why quite a lot of people use the Office suite from MS. They know what to expect.
I'm very happy to have the opportunity to play with the phone.
Kris
samsamuel said:
Heading back to winmo as soon as I get a few hours to update my kitchen.
Bored of android, no clue how to tweak it, miss the registry.
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True that's my main problem with android I really don't know how to tweak it. But with wm just edit registry reboot. Your done. Really Hate microsft for not updating this powerful os if they had they act together nobody could touch them with wm. Even yrs of neglect from microsoft look what the devs manage to do with the thing. I love showing my friends all of the oses am able to run. Wm will always be 1, as for microsoft am done with them never will buy their product because they very old and stupid people working there it seems. When Steve Jobs announced the iphone even at $600 with a 2yrs ballmer bald ass was just laughing while Steve Jobs was working on the iphone and boom who's laughing now bald ass. Microsft had what 90 percent of the mobile marketing share. Than 600 yrs later they give us that feature less wanna ios crap they call windows phone 7. Lol Microsoft had as much if not more followers than apple did with the iPhone. I mean we still use wm till this day. Microsoft simply let us down.
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I still use WM 6.5.
Everything you need, everything is smooth, everything you want.
I thought I would go back and try WM6.5...
Now I have the latest EnergyROM
Things I realise that I have missed since messing about with Android and Windows Phone...
1) SENSE UI on wm is superp, the lackluster effort with the Android version just doesn't compare and the HTC HUB on WP7 well not worth even mentioning. Although the weather animations are completely unnecessary, they are truly a thing of beauty compared to the simpler Android effects.
2) Email TAB is so slick to use, finger flick through your emails, likewise with the photo tab, twitter tab is brilliant, probably similar to the Android Sense version, although WM6.5 Sense severely lacks any Facebook TAB that is of any use.
3) Calendar that is so easy to use its laughable, on WM6.5 native calendar you can simply press hold cut and flick to another date and paste your appointments, I have never come across any calendar in Android and the WP7 one certainly doesn't allow this, its probably one of the things I do most, is move appointments onto the next day
4) Had to pick up some glass from a company yesterday, opened Google maps and was amazed just how more information is shown on the maps within WM compared to Androids, found 7 satellites within seconds, 3G picked up the company, had a route on the map within a minute of opening the app, super fast and never dropped internet connection, which often happened with the Android builds used, although WP7 was equally as stable, the Bing maps are not quite upto the Google ones. OK Android has the turn by turn google map navigation, but I prefer the top down google map views to the 3D type turn by turn stuff.
5) Went out for a run last night, started up Run.GPS, instant Satelites found, clicked on the bluetooth headphones, yet again instantly found and working, started the music and I was yet again amazed and had completely forgotten just how nice the sound is through the HD2 running WM6.5, with the audio booster on even through the bluetooth headphones the music sound was crisp clear and bass deep, the voice responses through run.GPS are so clear and human like were as the voices on Android versions have a more robotic edge, even Marathon and Endomondo on WP7 are not so clear. on my 7 mile hour run never lost a sattelite and the music played perfectly not a skip anywhere, bliss, when I got back I uploaded the gpx file and compared it to the runkeeper, endomondo and rungps Android gpx files of the same run done a few days ago, and to my amazement the smoothness and accuracy of the WM version was far superior.
6) Multi Tasking, what I forgot was I still had so many apps running in the background without any problem, the superb arkswitch shows up I had, these running at the same time.
tmail, file explorer, tasks, run.gps, googlemaps, bbc news, facebook app, calendar, calculator and internet with dropbox page loaded.
7) Battery life on my usual run as mentioned above on most Android builds both NAND and SD would drop from 100% to around 60%, where as last night it only dropped to 75%.
I probably am starting to sound like an advert for WM, I am not I thought by going over to Android and then when I put WP7 on my HD2 I would never look back, but actually WM is pretty fantastic, except for its application marketplace, which is such a shame all microsoft need to do was improve the marketplace, introduce a new UI like the metro one for WM and re-market it.
Using Windows mobile is like running a PC on a small hand-held you can USB link instantly with your computer, drag and drop stuff that will actually work, you can download files from the internet and save them anywhere you like, you can pull out your SD card and not have any problems then pop it back in and the files will be instantly viewable.
YES there are some very good games on Windows mobile, Ferrari GT HD2 accelerometer version is graphically brilliant and runs like a dream, huff and puff is similar to angry birds and looks good but none of these windows mobile games come close to the Android or Windows Phone versions and choice, I particularly love wordsmith/words with friends on Android and AlphaJax and words by post on WP7, there is nothing like this on Windows mobile.
Basically Windows mobile is probably the best operating system on a phone, but its let down by its marketplace, lack of development in applications for gaming and social media.
I will probably end up flashing wp7 when the HD2 NODO update eventually gets here, running Android from the SD dual boot yet again, just because some of those applications are too good to miss. its a shame because windows mobile is superior in my opinion.
I use WM 6.5 daily for work, PDA, my hobby, game, music, and many. WM6.5 is very good.
As the price down, I purchased another HD2 this month. My opinion is to purchase more HD2 if I have money.
I am using Artemis v57 and installed Cookie Home Tab and CHT Editor. That's so great
THUDUK said:
Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?
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Yes! I currently use the stock 3.14 rom!
I don't have trouble in daily activities!
I have a pure vanilla 6.5 (fully patched with all HTC's updates) and can safely say I won't need to faff about with it until my next phone comes along. It still scares me with what this phone can do!
Ive been using my hd2 for a long while now on android and its been superb. But I still look over at WM7 forums am im very tempted to give it ago.
Is everything working now on the newer releases?? Whats the battery life like?
Some one sell me WP7
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Baker0
i have my htc hd2 long time i test more then 150 roms on 6.5 version , and andorid , i admit android is a nice room , i start using wm7 nodo version ,its realy amazing rom , very fast rom ( similar iphone) no bugs . this room was made for internet and entretainment users.
1-the battery life is ok almost 40h using like a normal mobilephone, but need a ]trick ,]bcs wm7 on hd2 have a drivers problm in camera its make drain battery more then normal but with the trick u resolve that , the other problem is no aplication to use wifi router on wm7 .
2-in wm7 we cant type the number and show the name like in 6.5 rom , u need go to your phone list to search the name you want to call.~~
3-wm7 not suported outlook to sync the contacts , u need have a Key FROM microsoft to conect ur windows live acount and from there u can pass all your contacts
since hd2 official not suported wm7 , and wm7 is so good on hd2 , try using that u will never go back to others roms
i hope this information is helpful for u change....
Baker0 said:
Ive been using my hd2 for a long while now on android and its been superb. But I still look over at WM7 forums am im very tempted to give it ago.
Is everything working now on the newer releases?? Whats the battery life like?
Some one sell me WP7
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Baker0
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I have tried WP7 and it is truely a smooth operating system on the HD2. For me, there are two fundamental problems with WP7 which ruin the experience. The camera driver is still terrible - never use flash and no auto focus. Also the multitouch only works if you place your two fingers down at exactly the same time.
If you don't use the camera, and you can live with the dodgy multitouch - it is a great ROM.
there is a software camera .006 it correct the problem about the auto focus . with that, the pic show nice.
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I have tried WP7 and it is truely a smooth operating system on the HD2. For me, there are two fundamental problems with WP7 which ruin the experience. The camera driver is still terrible - never use flash and no auto focus. Also the multitouch only works if you place your two fingers down at exactly the same time.
If you don't use the camera, and you can live with the dodgy multitouch - it is a great ROM.
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On top of these what kills it for me is that there is not a good navigation program. Other than that it is pretty damn awesome.
The current non-Sense Android ROMs are actually working perfectly on our HD2s, the biggest problem (for me) is the battery life. WP7 however has some issues on the HD2.
First of all you have to have an SD card that works (correctly) with WP7. Then, if you move to WP7 you will find yourself in a less open environment: less apps, no usb drive option, less control of your phone. You will also lose some Google functionalities you had in Android (Navigation app, sync multiple calendars, maps). You will lose flash support. You will have to call Microsoft for an activation code if you want the live services (access to market apps). This brings a lot of pain in the a$s...
BUT! If your installation is successful you will have a very smooth OS with a great integration of facebook and google contacts synchronization. With Zune software you can synchronize your phone with your movies and music. You will get a pretty good battery life and a fully functioning phone. I flashed a WP7 ROM last week and i think I'll stick with it for a while.
Hope this helps
Thank you for your help, camera is a big one for me.... Does USB tethering work?
I'll chime in not to necessarily "sell it" but coming from a strictly WinMo background. I have Android on SD, but I've refused to have it as a main OS simply because WM has been everything I needed for years. I'm not an "app"er, could care less about market saturation, as long as I can find, somehow, the tools I need for day to day.
Coming from that background, I decided to give WP7 a go about 2 weeks ago when finally nodo was available to us on HD2. So far its been a double edged sword to me. I miss my openness already. That's my first thoughts. I miss being able to transfer files on the fly and even as simply as move files internally to deep level private folders. In WM6.5 I was to the point of using my phone as a boot-able agent for PC repairs. I would have said I miss syncing directly to Outlook, because for almost 10 years that's where all of my contacts have been stored and backed up, but MS forced me to make an exchange server with Office 2010. I think I'd be damned if I had to move my info online to an external server. Though I did activate my phone to Live, the only cloud service I use is the marketplace. Another thing I miss a lot is Sense, lol I know silly but I absolutely loved that interface.
And what I'm liking about WP7 so far, is one of the main pushes for the phone, that it is a nice neat little interface (though I really wish someone would hack sense into it). Its fast, very fast, and easy to use (which isn't really that big a deal to me because I thrive on difficult and complicated, and used to love having a phone I knew not many people could just pick up and get into), but it is very easy none the less. The marketplace has so far had a ton of apps that I do use almost daily now (which is making it harder for me to think about re-flashing 6.5). Actually the apps are the only things that's keeping me from going back at the moment. I kind of feel like I want to wait for Mango and more hacks so I can have my control back, but damned if I won't miss some of the apps.
Battery life is a bit spotty for me, because I live in a rural area at the moment and if I don't turn on airplane mode when I get home, drain down to nothing in a matter of a hours. I did a test the other day while I was out and had full H and staring from almost 100% went through about 45 min of a 93 min movie from netflix and battery was almost dead. I've learned though, the way I use my phone no matter what OS, I have to charge it all the time anyways.
That's my report, hope it helps ;-)
edit: there is a workaround for tethering with DFrouter but its sort of like the USB Storage workaround.
Long time WinMo user that made the switch with NoDo. I haven't shot any photos that required flash, but the photos I have taken with the camera were fine. I got an activation code via chat in 5 minutes or so, so that wasn't and issue. I went through the hassle of formatting my card to allow me to load Android, so when I do need to tether, I have that option.
My biggest complaint so far is the sound is overdriven, which seems to be fixable via registry tweak. In spite of loading Tom's xap, I haven't been able to successfully side-load an app that will let me work the registry a bit. But that's operator error, at some point I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong.
I just checked into NRG's 6.5 thread to see if there was anything new, a habit that will take me a long time to break. At this point, I don't see myself going backwards. I much prefer WP7 over Android, and though there is one app I really miss from WinMo (SplashID), I've found workarounds for the rest. I much prefer the e-mail and calendar interfaces on WP7, and it I'll admit it is kind of nice to have some cool, high graphics games on my day-to-day OS. Having been a smart phone user forever, I'm used to having chargers and battery spares, so battery life isn't much of a consideration for me.
I highly recommend you give it a try. Worst case, you just flash back. Good Luck!
I was in the same boat you are in right now, but there was no way to move away from Android. My love for Android and my loyalty are true to the core. What did I do? I got both. I have 16GB MicroSD Card Class 10 and with sick video guide from 96edwy I now have Dual Boot HTC HD2 running XBmod v1.10 NODO and American Android 2.3.2 !!!
Like everyone else I had my period of "Flash Madness" where I flashed about 5 times a day but it slowed down few months ago with new job and all. My ultimate solution: I have best of both worlds!!! Nirvana state of mind....
I love my Android, but I also love WP7 and right now mobile device gods are smiling on me
What OS to use...
Hi all, I tried them all on HD2 WM 6.5, 6.5.X,Froyo on SD,WP7 and finally stuck on Ginger in ROM. What is best for you depends on what kind of user you are. For example - I'm not into gaming on my phone, I don't have a facebook or twitter acc and couldnt care less about social networking,I use email extensively, care about outlook integration, office docs, use a lot of browsing, watch a lot of youtube and news aps...
WM 6.5(.X)
GOOD
- Looks great (the weather animations are so cool, the tabs are functional and fun way to use the phone)
- Has USB storage mode
- Has USB and WiFi tethering capability
- Can sync with outlook mail and contacts or any other mail with such ease that flashing and putting it back to running state takes less than 5 minutes
- Has a ton of GREAT GPS apps like iGo etc
- Best battery life of HD2 is of course on a original 6.5 ROM, nothing you flash will top that
- Skype works, although a very old version that you have to install yourself
- Can be used until the battery is dead and then recharged without a problem (not like android or wp7 ports)
- You can customize the home screen with addons like cookies home tab etc, lo limited customization is available (no widget support like in android etc)
- From just a month ago you can enjoy high res YouTube videos
BAD
- Sometimes laggy
- Browsing experience is ages behind Android and WP7, no flash support etc
- Camera is bad compared to the one on Andoird for example
- Live wallpapers are not as good as the ones on android and theres so few to choose from
- No universal search option (like on Android or BB devices)
- Gaming suck
- Development is dying or almost dead
WP7
GOOD
- Soooooo cool looking, fastest interface ever, extra intuitive and modern
- Mail app is great, very well thought trough and nice looking
- The best social networking integration, deeply into contacts
- Great gaming experience with xbox live
BAD
- Camera is only usable trough an external app, the built in is ****ty
- No direct outlook sync
- Has to be activated with MS
- No usb or wifi tethering
- No usb flash mode
- No GPS apps whatsoever, not even Google maps
- Live tiles are cool but third party apps cant really use their full potential (solved in upcoming Mango release but you'll have to wait for like a year to get it)
- No skype
- No universal search option (like on Android or BB devices), the search button is reserved for Bing search (maybe I'm wrong on this one, but as I recall you cant get to contacts so easly)
- A very long and thus very hard to use app drawer
- Cant use your own mp3 ringtones (might be wrong on this one correct me if I'm way off here)
- No real multitasking
- multitouch is implemented poorly
Android
GOOD
- Great looking interface, live wallpapers etc
- A lot of apps and games (best YouTube app ever, Skype is working fine etc.
- I just cant live without the universal search option I use all the time, so where ever you might be in the interface you are one button click away from your contacts or google search
- Has available GPS navigation software from Google maps to iGo etc.
- Great social networking apps but those options are not so deeply built in to the OS like in wp7
- USB and wifi tethering is working (not in my build for some reason but I can live without this option)
- USB flash mode working
- Multitasking
- The best camera on HD2 (a lot better than the one on the original rom)
- multitouch wirks just fine
BAD
- Battery life is bad even on phones designed for Android, let alone on ported ones
- No direct outlook sync ( a big minus for me, but not necessarily for everyone)
So, if you look at the pros and cons, the result is - your HD2 is the most functional with Android, then with good old WM 6.5 and at the end with WP7. WP7 needs to be polished, regardless of the quality of the HD2 port which is very close to the real thing. Mango update is coming this fall, but a lot of things are not addressed in it and MS need in my humble opinion another year to fix all missing bits...
Well i think everyone has said pretty much everything there is to say, i think all the bad points have been mentioned
all i would say is this,
WP7 is a different OS, its nothing like previous OS platforms on the HD2, you cant compare them as they are for different markets.
I was/am a heavy WM user, WM is a beast of an OS and there is nothing it cant do except games, had Microsoft not been completely shafted by OEMs, QC and the networks, WM would have been a modern day contender, as it is however it may be a beast of an OS but it isnt pretty and its laggy.
I tried Android for quite a while and i just found it fragmented, apart from games which isnt something i use there is little to know benifit over WM, yeah it looks good and is smoother but i just got board with it to be honest. its less functional than WM but is smoother, the UI is not much of an improvment in my opinion.
So i tried WP7, to start with i thought it was crap, very little functionality to the other two, very smooth, but then something odd happened, the UI just grew on me, the intigration of the OS became somthing i thought was great, it took about 2-4 weeks before i suddenly realised i absolutely love the thing, so i tried dropping back to Android for a while and i hated it.
in short, WP7 changes the way in which you use the device, the best and most accurate way of looking at it is, Windows Mobile is the best pocketPC platform out there (not including games) Windows Phone is the best SMARTPHONE out there, there is a difference, i have a second device which runs WM now, im longing for the day someone can port WM to an SD card
Yep, couldnt agree more with dazza. WP7 is all about PHONE experience! Most of us are not app freaks and use our PHONE primarily as a communication device, not a gaming platform or a replacement for a compass or a GPS device... All those devices do a better job on their own than any hybrid will so bottom line, WP7 takes me where I wanna be - focused on communicating with people - I can quickly get to my contacts, check what they've been up to, read and send emails and texts, send them a pic or two, surf the web a bit... And no other OS right now does that better, faster and cooler than WP7. Period.
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Yep, couldnt agree more with dazza. WP7 is all about PHONE experience! Most of us are not app freaks and use our PHONE primarily as a communication device, not a gaming platform or a replacement for a compass or a GPS device... All those devices do a better job on their own than any hybrid will so bottom line, WP7 takes me where I wanna be - focused on communicating with people - I can quickly get to my contacts, check what they've been up to, read and send emails and texts, send them a pic or two, surf the web a bit... And no other OS right now does that better, faster and cooler than WP7. Period.
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Only if the battery life is better Its only 6 hours from the last full charge and the battery is already down by half
Roxxx
Yeahhh..
I think WP7 on HD2 is awesome!
I also at first thought, that its missing functionality, like file managers, copying files to device and back etc.. The GPS and so on.
But i must say, WP7 is awesome, the integration into Facebook, the browser, the mail client is fantastic. It was not made to be like WM 6.5 etc, this is something on its own....
And it is really growing on all of us
Looking forward to the updates, and more software to be added.
We just have to live with the short battery life!
Windows Phone Device Manager
Also....
I am not sure if some of you guys have checked this out?
http://www.touchxperience.com/
This is a beta project, and its awesome! Allows custom ringtones, copy files to device and back. This is going to be great.
Try it out!
Hello dear Xdas...
I use my HD2 now since November 2010. I just used the Artemis ROM(Thanks for this great ROM!!!), as i was afraid to brick my phone during flashing.
However I installed WP7 (16.05.11 HD2O) yesterday and want to offer some Experience i gathered. Overall i am satisfied at all but some Key features are missing.
PRO
Fast
Energy saving
Good handling in the menu
great appearance
the keyboard is great, i never experienced such a good writin on the HD2 (tried los of keyboards incl. Swype)
So at all its ok.
BUT!!
I usualy used my HD2 as carPC. Through i have an CU-S400 car holder + an car stereo with freetalk and A2DP Profile.
So i miss:
Easy music transfer (Zune iss like iTunes and i hate iTunes!!)
Music player with Visualization and online Streams ( Pocket Player 4 was great!)
A navigationsoftware which dont uses the Web, i want the maps on my SD!
Voicedial doesnt work
No palringo or other multi-protocoll chatclient (I think that will be solved soon )
And Gpc is not available at the moment( I hope xtreme Apps is developing a WP7 version)
Also the missing Outlook syncronization and missing USB stick function su**s a lot.
I think this is not to much, i expect from a mobile. However WM6.5 did all the jobs very well.
Maybe someone has some hints for me to get me more satisfied with WP7.. Or maybe a possibility to make a Dual Boot WP7 and WM6.5 (Plz keep that android crap away from me )
Regards screamor
Btw. Wanna Thank DFT, Cotulla, HD2O and sternas...
@ screamor
For filetransfer like music,ringtones etc. search for touchxperience. It´s a very good app & very easy to handle.
greetz
pego2007
screamor said:
Hello dear Xdas...
I use my HD2 now since November 2010. I just used the Artemis ROM(Thanks for this great ROM!!!), as i was afraid to brick my phone during flashing.
However I installed WP7 (16.05.11 HD2O) yesterday and want to offer some Experience i gathered. Overall i am satisfied at all but some Key features are missing.
PRO
Fast
Energy saving
Good handling in the menu
great appearance
the keyboard is great, i never experienced such a good writin on the HD2 (tried los of keyboards incl. Swype)
So at all its ok.
BUT!!
I usualy used my HD2 as carPC. Through i have an CU-S400 car holder + an car stereo with freetalk and A2DP Profile.
So i miss:
Easy music transfer (Zune iss like iTunes and i hate iTunes!!)
Music player with Visualization and online Streams ( Pocket Player 4 was great!)
A navigationsoftware which dont uses the Web, i want the maps on my SD!
Voicedial doesnt work
No palringo or other multi-protocoll chatclient (I think that will be solved soon )
And Gpc is not available at the moment( I hope xtreme Apps is developing a WP7 version)
Also the missing Outlook syncronization and missing USB stick function su**s a lot.
I think this is not to much, i expect from a mobile. However WM6.5 did all the jobs very well.
Maybe someone has some hints for me to get me more satisfied with WP7.. Or maybe a possibility to make a Dual Boot WP7 and WM6.5 (Plz keep that android crap away from me )
Regards screamor
Btw. Wanna Thank DFT, Cotulla, HD2O and sternas...
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I check this site every day in the hope that someone has got WM running off the SD card, it would complete the device.
I think you need to remember though that WP7 is the best smartphone out there, it isnt however a pocketPC and i think that is what people are compare it too, which is a shame because its not ment to be a pocketpc
i wouldnt go as far as saying android is crap but i would say its boring, its like it has an identity crysis, it doesnt really know what it wants to be, pocketpc or smartphone? and it does neither very well in my opinion
there is a few things missing from WP and personally i think if they created some kind of sandboxed WM environment it would help slove most of these issues but thats just me
Hi All,
I've just been given an Omnia 7 and I'm not sure what to do with it.
I have an HTC Wildfire (Unlocked running CM) and my initial thoughts were to put CM on the Omnia, after a bit of research I found this wasn't possible.
So do I migrate from Android to Wm7 on the Omnia (and how would I copy my contacts etc) and is it worth it?
I don't expect an answer to: is Android better than WM7 (nor is this the place for it) but has anyone else came from Android to WM7? Anyone prefer the Omnia over the Wildfire etc? Are there like for like apps between Android and WM7? Things like Task killer, utils, games etc
If I do use the Omnia is it worth upgrading (as per the great guides on here) and what version should I upgrade to?
I also notice that the links to the Samsung USB Driver/Flash utilities don't work any more, does anyone have a copy of they available to dl?
Appreciate I'm asking a lot here, any advise would be greatly received.
D
its all about tast , If I where you I would play with the omnia for some time.
DavidJBrown said:
Hi All,
I've just been given an Omnia 7 and I'm not sure what to do with it.
I have an HTC Wildfire (Unlocked running CM) and my initial thoughts were to put CM on the Omnia, after a bit of research I found this wasn't possible.
So do I migrate from Android to Wm7 on the Omnia (and how would I copy my contacts etc) and is it worth it?
I don't expect an answer to: is Android better than WM7 (nor is this the place for it) but has anyone else came from Android to WM7? Anyone prefer the Omnia over the Wildfire etc? Are there like for like apps between Android and WM7? Things like Task killer, utils, games etc
If I do use the Omnia is it worth upgrading (as per the great guides on here) and what version should I upgrade to?
I also notice that the links to the Samsung USB Driver/Flash utilities don't work any more, does anyone have a copy of they available to dl?
Appreciate I'm asking a lot here, any advise would be greatly received.
D
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150% worth! omnia7 has one of the best SUPER amoled screens by far and is with 4" really perfect. htc wildfire are a VW Polo and Omnia7 are a Audi A4 All good apps and games has wp7 too and it works fast smooth with a pure and clear UI. and if you flash my mi7ROM you get a Full unlocked (root) OS with ability to install custom apps and improvements
look in my signature you will find my omnia7 rom and my online storage ....
SAMSUNG OMNIA 7 mi7ROM 8107 and - my storage content on htcfanboys.com
mirolg said:
150% worth! omnia7 has one of the best amoledPlus screens by far and is with 4" really perfect.
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Just to point out that it's not AMOLED Plus, it's just SuperAMOLED. Galaxy S2, Galaxy Tab 7.7 (the new one) and Galaxy Nexus are the top-tier devices for the moment utilizing Super AMOLED Plus display matrix.
Like i said to derik123derik123, i´ll try to put my toughts in a parcial way...
First of all, i´ve been always merging between iOS and Android,like them a lot, lived with it for years, all kinda of mobiles, jailbreakin, rootin,flashing custom, downgradin, even opening to change hardware parts...
Last year i had Motorola Atrix 4G and iPhone 4S, great ones, but without the opportunity to live with an oficial ICS ROm, i sold Atrix and in this January without jailbreak and tired of iOS, sold iPhone 4s....
Now, i had the opportunity and bought and Samsung Omnia 7...remember when you´re a kid and saw that toy in TV or Movie and when you got it sounds just more perfect then you could thought? When sounds that you will pass your entire life with it spending all minute just adoring it?
Well, i felt just like when started to use Omnia 7 with Mango 7.5, i really felt happier each time i scrolled my finger, the system is so fluid, so fast, so responsive, its beautiful, its simple, modern and intuitive, you dont have to dig its already there in your face.
For the first time i felt that my years with Droid and iPhones passed...Microsoft has now conquered me and surprised with an inteligent innovation, they just create something unique, there is nothing in their system that remebers Android or iOS, they have their identity.
I think that if you like the new, the unique and different, Windows Phone 7 it´s a new and beuatiful world to explore all time.
Well I took your advice. I gave my Wildfire to the wife (Her G1 was getting a bit long in the tooth) and installed mirolg's excellent rom.
I'm now sat here with the Omnia running the mirolg unlocked rom and I'm impressed! Google/Facebook/Linkedin contact all came across and worked perfectly.
Yes the screen is very nice, must get some video to play on it. Just a few niggles though if anyone can help.
It would be nice to be able to turn on/off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS from the start screen. I've installed toggle but it only does 3G and Wifi, anyone know of an app that does all 4?
Slightly annoyed that there is no SD slot to upgrade the capacity, I though most phones came with this these days.
On a much wider note are there any 'must have' apps or games on this device? What do you lot run and recommend?
Look forward to the replies!
D
DavidJBrown said:
Well I took your advice. I gave my Wildfire to the wife (Her G1 was getting a bit long in the tooth) and installed mirolg's excellent rom.
I'm now sat here with the Omnia running the mirolg unlocked rom and I'm impressed! Google/Facebook/Linkedin contact all came across and worked perfectly.
Yes the screen is very nice, must get some video to play on it. Just a few niggles though if anyone can help.
It would be nice to be able to turn on/off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS from the start screen. I've installed toggle but it only does 3G and Wifi, anyone know of an app that does all 4?
Slightly annoyed that there is no SD slot to upgrade the capacity, I though most phones came with this these days.
On a much wider note are there any 'must have' apps or games on this device? What do you lot run and recommend?
Look forward to the replies!
D
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Check marketplace for Connection Tiles.
Cheers!
I believe Supreme shortcuts should do the trick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343993
HOMEBREW xap wp7 apps ( tnx xda developer)
Marketplace apps:
AlbumFlow- music player with cover
AudioAnalyzer- sound check app
Babylon Translator- ad free translator with the most languages
Bedbug- better sleep soundplayer
Betty Crocker- best recipe app with pics
Cocking Timer- very cool 3x timer- works in background
Convert2Go- convert app
Clinometer
Cocktail Flow- cocktails
Dance Hub- Dj- mix with offline download
Ebay- ebay
Filmstarts- Kino/movie app
GPS Voice Navigation- online GPS Voice Navigation
handyscan- scan your documents and load up to skydrive
IMDB- movie DB
Lighting Dial- cool homescreen alternative with much shotcuts
MobileTag- barcode scan
Notes- simple, clean notes app
Remotely Possible- play you media from PC on your device- cool!
SleepTimer- sleep music timer
Slydr-keyboard like swipe
Sky Drive- Microsoft skydrive app
Signal Generator- generate test- audio signals
Stick Tiles- stick a notes
Soundtracker- best music app like spotify but free
Soudhound- better shazam alternative
Free Music Cloud- Dj- mix with offline download
SweetNSpicy- Indian and Thai recepies- great!
Tech New Now- best Technical rss feed reader
TuneIn Radio- Radio app
Timer- timer
TuneWiki- live Lyrics app by play a song- in different languages!
QuickMinder- Time minder tile app
WhatsUp- short message app multicross OS
Voice Memos Lite- record Voice Memos
wikipedia Reader- wp reader
Wiztiles- Induvidualize your custom tiles
Weave- best Technical rss feed reader
WPcentral- wpcentral.com app
WP7Applist- Marketplace overview
XDA-Developers- board express forum app
Youtube Pro- with down- and upload!
Thanks again for all the help! Supreme shortcuts is exactly what I wanted and I've installed most of the apps mentioned by the awesome mirolg.
Phone is now almost perfectly setup...........apart from Zune! For a start it's seems unnecessary as I was used to drag and drop on Android, but I can live with it.
What I can't live with is the way it won't copy a full album over! I have a lot of Audio Books, I do a lot of driving and I find them better than music.
They are all ID3 marked up and work fine on all other devices. I sync them up with the Omnia 7 and for some reason it copies over file 1,2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 etc!!
I really don't understand why it will not copy the FULL contents of the album, I've checked the tags, they are all good, all files are there and play on other devices, I have removed and re added the library, but no. It does not seem to work!
Also, a very strange thing. I fully charge the phone, connect Bluetooth in the car and the phone to USB to charge and by the end of my journey (6Hrs) the phone battery is nearly dead! I havn't used the phone for anything, 3g, Wifi, GPS all turmed off!
Any idea why the phone seems to discharge? I know the USB port on the Car Stereo is fine as I have used other phones with it.
Thanks again, I'd appreciate any advice!
D