I have a TMOUS HD2 1024 from the US go live release (red reset button). I have been using various Android builds for a few weeks now and love the MDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v2.2 (11 JAN). My question is this:
If I use one of the builds made specifically for the 1024 ROM will I see better response times? I know they are compatable since I am already using a 512 but more importantly would there be any benefit using a ROM designed for the 1024?
If there is a differnece is there a way to modify this build so it takes advantage of the full 1024 ROM? I have seen discussion related to changing the size of some spicific files that modify storage sizes but am very novice to phone edits and quite cautious. Any help would be welcomed and if this has already been discussed a simple link would be most appriciated.
With 1024MB ROM, there are no advantages in terms of speed performance.
However, you do get space advantages.
If you flash a 350MB ROM, 350MB is being used by the system partition, a small amount is used by the boot partition and cache, then the rest are all userdata partition, which gives you around 500MB free space to install apps and store user data. (SMS, etc)
People with 512MB ROM, 350MB is being used by system partition, minus boot, cache, you have like around 50MB to 100MB left which isn't much for apps and user data. Which is why they need to use A2SD+ or DATA2EXT or similar methods of increasing userdata storage.
Try using Clockwork Recovery. You will have ALOT of free space. Even if you don't do A2SD+ partition, since MDJ's Gingerbread Cyanogen uses less than 150MB for system partition.
LiFE1688 said:
With 1024MB ROM, there are no advantages in terms of speed performance.
However, you do get space advantages.
If you flash a 350MB ROM, 350MB is being used by the system partition, a small amount is used by the boot partition and cache, then the rest are all userdata partition, which gives you around 500MB free space to install apps and store user data. (SMS, etc)
People with 512MB ROM, 350MB is being used by system partition, minus boot, cache, you have like around 50MB to 100MB left which isn't much for apps and user data. Which is why they need to use A2SD+ or DATA2EXT or similar methods of increasing userdata storage.
Try using Clockwork Recovery. You will have ALOT of free space. Even if you don't do A2SD+ partition, since MDJ's Gingerbread Cyanogen uses less than 150MB for system partition.
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Thanks so much best info so far.
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I have LEO T8585, and when i flash Android 4.0.3. NAND (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354267) i have only 100MB for apps. I tried this HD2 Android NAND toolkit to make partition bigger but no luck.
No matter what size i choose i'll get same size for downloaded apps - 100MB.
Im not total noob flashing NAND ROM-s , but do i miss something?
Or is it possible to make this partition bigger?
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First, the space shown as available doesn't include the system, boot or cache partition size, only the data partition size, and since during flashing, the data partition size is set to be whatever is left over after the rom is flashed, the only way to increase data size is by reducing the system partition size, , but then of course the rom wouldn't fit (because you flash the system partition to be only fractionally larger than the size of the system folder contents, if you flashed a larger system partition, the extra space would be wasted, unused by anything, example put a rom requiring 150mg onto a 250 Meg layout and you lose 100mb)
Secondly, if you set up an ext partition on the SD card, the rom will consider that internal memory BUT (on most roms) wont show it on the available internal storage calculation, but it WILL use it as internal.
third, the 4.x roms are still beta, and vary as to sizes required, whether they have ap2sd+ built in or whether you need to manually install and configure it. If you are looking for a rom you can keep as a daily for a while, wait until 4.x is a few more betas along.
Thanks!
Thats what i thougt. I made minimal part. 190MB and got 100 extra. My ext. on SD is 1024. For now its ok. And this 4.0 beta 10 it is very nice ROM, looks stable and smooth on HD2.
Hi, I am using MIUI with Android version 2.3.7. Everything is allright, but I only have 217 mb of internal memory in total. The MIUI ROM and other apss take up about 180 mb and although I have moved some apps to sd I now only have 40 mb available. It should have 512 mb internal memory. Why can't I see and use all of it? Is it possible that I didn't delete windows mobile or one of the other android roms I have used so far, though I am sure I have tried "clean install" a few times?
Dalvik cache & app data take up a lot of space too, you could move these to th SD ext partition to free up more internal memory. You will need a2sd installed I think to enable this.
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the 'available internal memory' figure only counts the data partition size.
so (for example) if your rom requires a 200 meg system partition, you would show..
512 minus 200 minus whatever cache size you flashed minus the boot and recovery partitions (lets guess 50 meg) so your available internal memory on a completely fresh install, no data or apps, would still only show a max of 262meg available.
Also, if you flash a system partition bigger than required, you dont get the extra space to use. So flash a 180meg rom onto a 250 meg system partition, and you lose 70meg, the system wont use it for anything.
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the 'available internal memory' figure only counts the data partition size.
so (for example) if your rom requires a 200 meg system partition, you would show..
512 minus 200 minus whatever cache size you flashed minus the boot and recovery partitions (lets guess 50 meg) so your available internal memory on a completely fresh install, no data or apps, would still only show a max of 262meg available.
Also, if you flash a system partition bigger than required, you dont get the extra space to use. So flash a 180meg rom onto a 250 meg system partition, and you lose 70meg, the system wont use it for anything.
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Thank you so much. My ROM itself is about 100 mb. How much data partition size should I actually spare for such a rom? Also could you please direct me to the post that tells me how to arrange the data partition size and do the rest of flashing my rom again? I would really like to have more available internal memory. Also I would be happy if you told me what ext 3 or ext 4, whatever it is called, is and if it has anything to do with internal memory.
If the rom is 100mb then you need a partion of at most 110 so if your using clk or magdlr..after you have wiped nand...partition it to 110 if possible or use 105 even cos you don't wanna be giving up wanted space..
I'have flashed a lot of roms already but i'am still wondering how the memory works.
My favorites are the roms with Sense from DungPHP.
Now i'am running Coredroid that gives a load of manual options but also crashed unexpectedly.
Why this questions:
Every rom crashes somewhile. To understand how the memory works can help to find the rootcause. That can be application related, or configuration for the partitions, core etc.. Now only the developers know this (should know )
My Phone:
The Phone HD2 HTC LEO (EU) has 512 Mb memory
EXT4 partition of 2 gb
SWAP 256 mb
SD card of 16 Gb, 4mb speed
[*]What kind of memory's are there?
[*]and where are they used for?
To install the Rom we have to give the correct configuration like:
misc ya 1M
recovery rrecov|ro|nospr filesize recovery-raw.img
boot yboot|ro 5M
system ya 175M
cache ya 5M
userdata ya|asize|hr allsize
So when i have 512mb - 1 - 5 - 175 - 5 = 313 mb left over
[*]Where is the left 313 mb used for?
[*]What is installed on the EXT4 partition?
[*]How much do you need to keep for good performance?
This are a lot of questions and i hope someone can help me to figure it out so we have a usefull tutorial page left over.
[*]Where is the left 313 mb used for?
[*]What is installed on the EXT4 partition?
[*]How much do you need to keep for good performance?
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1 - 313 would be the userdata partition (allsize). This is the only nand partition which counts towards total internal storage.
2 - depends on the rom, some put user installed apps there, some put apps and dalvik cache, some put the whole data partition there.
3 - doesn't matter, you are talking about rom, not ram,, free rom has no effect on performance.( well, perhaps if every tiny scrap of space is full, but you sound like you meant ram)
You are right RAM has effect on performance.
The problem for me is that i understand lots of fragments of the theory but it is not complete.
Like today i have installed a backup, and later a full installation of a rom on my phone. And this rom was working fine in the past and now the battery lacks and streaming video is not working. Why??
I did a cleanup to factory, and cache and dalvic cache, but it looks like something stayes and is not formatted.
Back to runny. Video works fine now. But the sense is stopping very often due to lack of memory.
Is there a way to improve this?
I removed almost all widgets from main screen but after opening an application it is stooped and needs to be reloaded.
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Flash marc 0.1.9 kernel and then add a zram (100mb) script to increase virtual memory size.
I already improved the phone by changing the config from 5/170/5 to 10/180/10. Especially cash was the problem what I think. Till now it worked fine.
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i have installed coredroid for the hd2 useing the great tool kit.. one thing i have incountered is i can not use a custom partition over the max 445mb. the US version can use 1024mb internal rom and 512 ram anyway to work around this or am i looking at this wrong...
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i have installed coredroid for the hd2 useing the great tool kit.. one thing i have incountered is i can not use a custom partition over the max 445mb. the US version can use 1024mb internal rom and 512 ram anyway to work around this or am i looking at this wrong...
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I don't see why you would need a larger partition but an easy solution is to go to the HD2 CWM thread and download the latest version, then within the downloaded folder open the file flash.cfg (not flash.cfg.txt) and change the system partition to your desired size, then flash through daf.exe
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biowin said:
i have installed coredroid for the hd2 using the great tool kit.. one thing i have incountered is i can not use a custom partition over the max 445mb. the US version can use 1024mb internal rom and 512 ram anyway to work around this or am i looking at this wrong...
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to explain, in case you didn't realise, , making the system partition bigger than that rom requires is pointless, since the system doesn't store anything in the system partition, except the system. The data partition (and sd-ext of in use) is where all your apps and data get installed. If you make your system partition 100mb bigger, for example, your internal storage will actually go down by 100meg.
When you partition, the data partition is set to 'allsize', meaning it will take up however much space is left after the boot/cache/recovery partitions are created.
When you look at the available internal storage space in settings, it ONLY shows you the space in your data partition, nothing else, which is why it will never show 1024mb, more like 800mb for a cm rom, or 550mb for a sense rom.
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thanks for the info.. sorry for the delay in the reply
Hi,
Is that possible to set cache size to 45 mb with cLK?
Yes, it's possible.
Upgrade to 1.5, and you can do it by holding the back button then going to the settings.
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Yes, it's possible.
Upgrade to 1.5, and you can do it by holding the back button then going to the settings.
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Hi there!
I've got a question regarden de ideal partition size. I use an HD2 with 0.5GB internal memory, with the HD2 Toolkit i partitiond the MAGLDR partition to 300MB, is that okay? What size should the cache be?:cyclops:
What size should the cLK partition be with an ROM installed of 140MB?
Thank you very much!:laugh:
Greetings
Maxxdiss
maxxdiss said:
Hi there!
I've got a question regarden de ideal partition size. I use an HD2 with 0.5GB internal memory, with the HD2 Toolkit i partitiond the MAGLDR partition to 300MB, is that okay? What size should the cache be?:cyclops:
What size should the cLK partition be with an ROM installed of 140MB?
Thank you very much!:laugh:
Greetings
Maxxdiss
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It is always better to use the least size possible, as the remaining storage is going to be your internal storage for apps and so.
I think that 300MB is too much, no ROM currently uses such a big partition. (Taking into account the fact that you have a european HD2 and always using A2SD).
There is no such thing as "ideal partition size".
The best partition sizes (system, cache, boot ... etc) are the one recommended by the ROM developer himself, he built it, and he knows on a how big partition it will fit.
I have noticed that I mean read that the advice for the settings on partition sometimes can be set lower than the advice from the developper.
There are people here they test it out it is possible but I follow the directions always to begin and it works,
Titanium Backup
I know it may be a bit tedious, but what I can recommend is to experiment with it.
If you use European HD2 with A2SD then it does not really take much time since only the ROM takes place there.
You can start with a generous amount of system partition (say 300 MB) and start Titanium Backup (there may be an easier way, but TB is usually included in every ROM). In the lower part of the start screen there is an information about the free space in the "System ROM" partition (say it is 100 MB). If you use A2SD, then you can repartition your NAND using a 300-100+5 (for safety) = 205 MB.
Of course, if you have bad NAND blocks then you need to play a bit more around.