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class action against HTC/Microsoft?

What do you guys think of getting involved in a class action against HTC/Microsoft if HD2 is not allowed WP7? Now that WP7 is announced, many software companies are going to stop (or already stopped) developing for WinMo 6.5 and we are left outside with an already bricked 2 month old device (it's not even out for USA). I don't like paying $1.000 (yes it is that expensive where I live) for a device which will be outdated in 2 months. HTC and Microsoft should be more loyal to their customers than that. What do you all think?

HTC and Microsoft never promised a WP7S upgrade.
If you're thinking about raising a class action for something that wasn't in the contract of sale, you are, as we say in Scotland, an eejit (idiot).
Sell your HD2 now and be phone-less for 6 months, then buy a Wp7s capable phone. Or at the very least wait for an official announcement on whether it will be upgradable or not.

they never promised an upgrade, but they never said that we won't be able to use WP7 apps as well. Even when you buy a desktop PC with Windows, you're given the option of free upgrade when the new OS is imminent, else no one would buy. And that's when you can still perfectly use all the new applications on your old OS. Don't you feel kinda being cheated, is it only me??

bricked device? it still works doesn't it? you've got a year or so before 7 really hits the mass market, that doesn't stop your phone from working NOW.
do you look at cars the same way? I got my Renault Laguna, it's made in 2001 but I'm not moaning because they don't let me upgrade to the nice shiny 2010 model engine just because i have an older version.
I don't get the complaining about being able to have 7 on their phone when clearly it doesn't have the hardware (4 point multi touch, 3 buttons etc) that windows 7 needs.
I'm sure MS or HTC will take the OS as far as they feel like before 7 rolls out and I would not doubt that some of the clever code monkeys here on XDA will be able to cook up a fantastic 7 ROM that will work in some way on our currently working and rather impressive HD2's

why are people complaining about not having win7 available on the device when it is out in about 7 months time? Did you buy the HD2 SOLELY on the basis it would have this upgrade in OS? Did HTC promise you that it was going to upgraded to win7 when it came out?

ozkaya said:
they never promised an upgrade, but they never said that we won't be able to use WP7 apps as well. Even when you buy a desktop PC with Windows, you're given the option of free upgrade when the new OS is imminent, else no one would buy. And that's when you can still perfectly use all the new applications on your old OS. Don't you feel kinda being cheated, is it only me??
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WP7 is not new version of WM6.5. Call it Zune Phone and it all becomes clear.
And even if free upgrade is offered sometimes with desktop computers, it clearly is stated as a part of the contract. Here it was not. If you don't like it, you should have not bought it.

I had thought of hanging on to my Touch Pro until WP7 came out. I ended up getting the HD2 and I've never had so much fun with a phone.
We are spoiled rotten in this community. I can get my device to do anything I want it to do and a few things I hadn't even thought of thanks to the hard work, generosity and smarts of the good people who contribute to these forums.
Come on! We don't even know if we will like WP7 yet! Enjoy the amazing device you have. Modify it, flash it, load a thousand apps on it if you like.
By the time WP7 is stable, usable and has a load of good apps, we'll probably be good and ready for an upgrade.

If the HD2 does everything you need in a phone what does it matter if it will run 7 or not? Especially if HTC never promised it would.
If its just for epeen status you're gonna look like gypsy joe anyway come the time trying to run a new OS on an old phone. Either way I am sure some bright spark on XDA will make 7 run on the HD2.

Also remember that WP7 is brand new OS with no applications at all. It will take at least a year till it will start to be usable for basic operation. We don't know how hard it will be to adapt actual applications. It might be minor modifications, it might be totally impossible, and everything would have to be done from the scratch.
Yes .. we all want new better WM .. but WP7 is just not that.

How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.

ardsar said:
How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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you are right but most applications developers stoped developing for wm6.5 and starts to develope for the upcoming wp7 series so it is wm6.5 end (but not in an official way)

reasons why this bull
1 in the box which my htc hd2 was piece of paper saying that this phone would get a upgrade to wm7
2 there footage of wm7 on the htc hd2
3 the fact that ms always denie all rumours about all their products
4 no device has 4 point mutil touch if was the case this would be a big deal for microsoft as apple owns the patents for true mutil touch screens
5 windows specs change all the time and this is true for all software
6 the htc hd2 pro is coming out and professionals would want wm7

a piece of paper may say they will do 7 but maybe the rules changed and they discovered in the full release version they can't run wm7
i'm sure the initial idea was great but reality has deemed the hd2 not suitable for wm7
would a pro want an OS that's not allowing backward compatibility of their "pro" apps? no so maybe they'll stick with 6.5xxxx
have you actually tried wm7 yet? all this fuss and it might turn out to be rubbish then i guess you'll bring another class action against MS to say you want 6.5 back
whether it be Apple/MS/HTC they can't please everyone but to rant about it BEFORE the OS is out is pretty pointless. think logically rather than throw toys from pram please

I think WP7 will be business oriented. Only think they can do better then the others would be exchange synchronization. Otherwise I see no reason why would anybody buy it. And before new apps are done for it, iPhone will have new version, Android will be at 3.0 and another players may show up.

ozkaya said:
What do you guys think of getting involved in a class action against HTC/Microsoft if HD2 is not allowed WP7? Now that WP7 is announced, many software companies are going to stop (or already stopped) developing for WinMo 6.5 and we are left outside with an already bricked 2 month old device (it's not even out for USA). I don't like paying $1.000 (yes it is that expensive where I live) for a device which will be outdated in 2 months. HTC and Microsoft should be more loyal to their customers than that. What do you all think?
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Sorry guys, I couldn't help it

this forum gets dumber by the day.

I'll Stick with 6.5!
Why does anyone want WP7 anyway? My phone works just the way I want it (now, after a few problems initially), it is fast, looks great and makes most other phones look like they were just dug up in an episode of Time Team!
I have just about every app I could want, running beautifully and doing pretty much everything I could ever need. If I was offered WP7 today I would say no! An untried OS with no software support for at least another 6 months (after release) and we don't know how customizable or flexible it will be... I'd be mad to jump ship from 6.5!
When I know what the new OS actually is, when I know I can get all the software I require and that I can make the phone the way I want it and that the OS is something I actually like THEN... I'll have a new device that will have even more bells and whistles and this won't be an issue...

scottmo said:
Why does anyone want WP7 anyway? My phone works just the way I want it (now, after a few problems initially), it is fast, looks great and makes most other phones look like they were just dug up in an episode of Time Team!
I have just about every app I could want, running beautifully and doing pretty much everything I could ever need. If I was offered WP7 today I would say no! An untried OS with no software support for at least another 6 months (after release) and we don't know how customizable or flexible it will be... I'd be mad to jump ship from 6.5!
When I know what the new OS actually is, when I know I can get all the software I require and that I can make the phone the way I want it and that the OS is something I actually like THEN... I'll have a new device that will have even more bells and whistles and this won't be an issue...
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why would you like to stay with un supported version of os ,as wp7 arrives developers will stop developing for wm6.5

ardsar said:
How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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+1 -CLASS ACTION? That is so laughable! End these threads please it just annoying to guess at everything. Wait for the MIX '10 and listen to then as to what they want to say. Until then no more threads about WP7 upgrades on HD2...wahh.wahhh.wahhh...

There goes another 2 minutes of my life. When will I learn....

am i going mad? jumping ship

hey all,
ive had my Hd2 for about 6 months and I'm thinking of getting rid of it for a N1 or a Desire. i mean is this a smart move?
my main reason is the lack if apps for the hd2 is pathetic and most are in the old skool windows mobile interface, which looks crap to the likes of the sense ui.
im also finding the slowdowns in win mo are driving me bonkers. for a high spec phone im not impressed.
course being that i have to lay down the best part of 400-600 pounds to get the forementioned phones id like the communities help. im tempted for a google N1 as the updates are more regular, but the sense UI on the hd2 i find really nice. so what would you guys say is the betterof the two? and would you get one over the hd2
thanks,
Luke

oh no... another one of those...
how the hell should we know?? vast majority of us in these parts of the forum have hd2, so isn't it better to ask those questions on android boards?
geez... how many threads like this do we need?

Im with mr. bronx on this one...

surely the HD2 community are the people to ask, as you've stayed with HD2, you'll be the most wise as to why not to get the android, and/or why you stayed with the HD2 over the new androids?

diablous said:
surely the HD2 community are the people to ask, as you've stayed with HD2, you'll be the most wise as to why not to get the android, and/or why you stayed with the HD2 over the new androids?
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To be brutally honest, it is personal preference.
Every phone has it's issues.
Every operating system has it's issues.
Every owner has their issues with the above.

i have gone from the HD2 to the Desire and to honest for me anyway i find the desire and android a joy to use, dont get me wrong i still think the HD2 is a awesome phone but windows is a real pain sometimes.
im just hoping HTC gets us the android 2.2 update soon

android gets updates fast ,you will buy desire , and after one month android 2.2 is released ,and when upgrading officially to it ,android 3.0 will be released , android is not stable and very un mature os

hoss_n2 said:
android gets updates fast ,you will buy desire , and after one month android 2.2 is released ,and when upgrading officially to it ,android 3.0 will be released , android is not stable and very un mature os
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android is not stable? mine hasnt let me down once since i got it, the update is adding features not fixing stability issues

sharpey said:
android is not stable? mine hasnt let me down once since i got it, the update is adding features not fixing stability issues
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you didnot understand me ,iam not talking about it ,iam talking about the version stability and the completness of features winmo
is updated nearly every two years and mainly skinning updates ,as it has alll features that a mobile could have but android gets update every 2-3 monthes , which adds new features to catch up other mature os

ahh got you now
but everyone seems really happy with 2.2 features and it has everything i had on the HD2.
like it was said above its just a personal preference thing.

Keep your HTC HD 2 android is on the way, either by dual boot, or being that of htc evo coming out, and actual rom.
The HTC HD 2 is the most powerfull device out there, and you can do whatever you want with it, no restrictions nothing, you can have a vast majority of operating systems.
Most can be ported thanks to the lovely people here at XDA.

sharpey said:
ahh got you now
but everyone seems really happy with 2.2 features and it has everything i had on the HD2.
like it was said above its just a personal preference thing.
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android 2.2 is the begining for the android to be mature ,but after 3 monthes , google announces the android 3.0 will be avaliable in q4 ,may be then it will be a better os than windows , with more options ,and specifications

ALEXRUSS55 said:
Keep your HTC HD 2 android is on the way, either by dual boot, or being that of htc evo coming out, and actual rom.
The HTC HD 2 is the most powerfull device out there, and you can do whatever you want with it, no restrictions nothing, you can have a vast majority of operating systems.
Most can be ported thanks to the lovely people here at XDA.
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An android port to the HD2 is not going to be like an android phone that came with android. It will be a long time before the port is as functional as an android phone. You're probably not going to want to use the android port full time as it will be a while before it uses all the hardware properly like bluetooth, wifi, camera, sound, etc. There could also be heating issues, battery issues, stabilty issues, etc. People seem to think that the evo rom will easily be ported over and it will be fully functional. It doesn't work like that. The touch pro's android port has been developed for over a year and it still isn't nearly as functional as a full android phone.
Don't get me wrong... I can't wait to be able to boot into android on my HD2, but I expect it to be over a year from now until it will be good enough to want to use full time instead of WinMo 6.5. HD2 is a WinMo phone, and thats the only os that it will run well for probably at least the next 6months to year. It may never run another os good enough to use full-time.

Do what your heat tells you. Just playing. Honestly, its all about what you need your phone to deliver for you.
My phone completes what I want and makes me happy. I sometimes feel the lack of apps but it is no big deal.
All I really use on a daily basis are Stocks, weather, music player, youtube app and web browser. You will obviously find more apps for android.
Personally, I dont need all those apps you find for android like optical illusions, weird sounds and bla bla bla. Sure I need an app like NBA Game Time similar to that of android but nothing that I desperately need.
I just hop on espn with skyfire or Opera 10 Mobile and Im good.
Android lacks quality games just like Windows Mobile but FPSEce helps a little my HD2.
My sisters own a Motorola Cliq and a Droid and nothing to major for me to want Android. Maybe If the developers from this site get a working android port I will be HAPPY.
Other than that, this phone fulfills my needs.
AGAIN, DO WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS.....LOL.
Don't allow others make your decision.

I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......

richie_jones said:
I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......
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I have to restart my HD2 at least once a day.

richie_jones said:
I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......
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I've not rebooted my HD2 for at least 3 weeks, and I think that was due to a tweak in BsBtweaks needing a restart to take effect.
I can put you in touch with several people who have had iphones that lock up and become unresponsive more than once a week if you want?
Complexity will always have instability.

HD2 is much more sexy than ANY other phone on the market around imo..
Besides, they are working on Android for the HD2.. And making some good progress lately..
Nothing better than a phone that could eventually even dualboot .
If you want games and apps to play about with/be cool with around your mates, get an iPhone or another type that most 'mainstream' users have.

More Likely To Happen First....WP7 or Android?

I'm sorry HD2 lovers but although Windows OS is pretty custimizable its CLEARLY a VERY OLD OS that I just cant get that into. So my question is this and your answers really depend on whether I decide to keep the phone or not. What is more Likely to happen first
-Fully Working WP7
-Semi Working Android(ie: broken wifi,bluetooth, camera etc...)

Hum! its hard to say... But I am sure that when either of those come out, its going to be a P.O.S.

I wouldn't keep my hopes up on either, but im thinking WP7 might be the easier port.
If you really don't like WM6.5, return it and get an android device. By the time WP7 is out there will likely be much better hardware out with it officially installed.
Qualcomm has dual core and 1.5ghz snapdragons in the pipeline for later this year, im sure there will be many WP7 phones with them.
On the other hand if you're a WM fan like myself, stick with the HD2 because its probably the best hardware that WM will ever be officially released on.
It would be interesting to see HTC do an official android release for the HD2. There are no licensing issues why they couldn't, just have to spend some time to do it, or at least give the enthusiast community the needed drivers and other know how to get it working so we're not reinventing the wheel. you know they've probably already got it working in shop.

@ OP
Use the SEARCH link.
WP7 port was done a couple of months ago. Android may take a loooong time or it may not even happen if we get a flurry of hi end devices running android on all 4 major carriers.

kcaj32 said:
@ OP
Use the SEARCH link.
WP7 port was done a couple of months ago. Android may take a loooong time or it may not even happen if we get a flurry of hi end devices running android on all 4 major carriers.
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No, there is no legitimate port currently.

kcaj32 said:
@ OP
Use the SEARCH link.
WP7 port was done a couple of months ago. Android may take a loooong time or it may not even happen if we get a flurry of hi end devices running android on all 4 major carriers.
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Last I head that "port" was a scam, it was someone using the remote desktop client in WM6.5 to connect to a remote emulator running WP7

kcaj32 said:
@ OP
Use the SEARCH link.
WP7 port was done a couple of months ago. Android may take a loooong time or it may not even happen if we get a flurry of hi end devices running android on all 4 major carriers.
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what tom said was a big fake ,it was not ported to hd2 ,may be the russians have lied to him as i personally don't think he will make a thing like that

vampsandbats said:
I'm sorry HD2 lovers but although Windows OS is pretty custimizable its CLEARLY a VERY OLD OS that I just cant get that into. So my question is this and your answers really depend on whether I decide to keep the phone or not. What is more Likely to happen first
-Fully Working WP7
-Semi Working Android(ie: broken wifi,bluetooth, camera etc...)
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This is the 3rd time i'e seen this exact same question posted. Either one will be at least 6 months-1 year away.... maybe more.... so if you don't like WinMo, I suggest getting a different phone. Personally, I think WinMo is the best OS out there for mobile devices and I am glad to have what will probably be the best WinMo phone of all time since there won't be many more winmo phones made.

My bad. You guys are right. I saw the news for the port but didn't follow up about it being fake.
I still think WP7 will be ported first.
With all the Android Superphones coming out (EVO [sprint], Droid X, Incredible [verizon], Galaxy S [t-mobile], Captivate [ATT]), its easier to buy a new device than use a ported ROM on the HD2.

I think we're more likely to see a windows 7 Shell similiar to how HTC Sense is on the HD2 before any fully working windows phone 7 ports are done. Although the hardware on the HD2 is pretty much as impressive as anything available now the fact is that, just as with computer parts it will be considered "not fast enough" when windows 7 phones are actually released.
I'm 26 years old and had my first pc in 1994. it was a packard bell and ran at 600 Mhz with 128MB or ram and a 40 GB HD. My HD2 is faster than my first pc ever was and it is about 20x smaller. Anyone else think about these sort of things and really marvel at the pace technology is moving?
The wife and I were in the food store the other day waiting in line behind some lady paying for groceries with a check. My wife was *****ing to me that people are crazy that still carry around paper checkbooks. I told her that when we're older and probably holding up a line with our surgically implanted RFID chips to pay for groceries, some youngsters will be complaining about us not using retinal scans so we can be done quicker..LOL.

[Q] What will happen when android is 100% functional with htc hd2 ??

will a custom ROM have android instead of WM6.5 ?? i mean it will direct boot to android or we still have to open android from WM6.5 ??

at the moment you run android as an application in windows mobile.
other way is to flash andoid to nand like we now flash our windows mobile roms.
as far as i know there is not enough room to flash both OSes to nand. <- pls correct me if im wrong

oh ok when it will be 100% functional with everything working it could be flashed to nand without the WM ?

why did u buy a winmo phone when u want android?

...the world as we know it...will come to an end... lol well what's most likely to happen is people wanting to get windows phone 7 on the phone.
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PhoneConnect247 said:
...the world as we know it...will come to an end... lol well what's most likely to happen is people wanting to get windows phone 7 on the phone.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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loooooool i saw the title and was about to write the exact same thing ...
what would happen ..... it will run 100% no more no less , alltho i doubt that will ever happen cuz it occasionally has bad days on nexus too , like all the OS-es

bbezja1 said:
at the moment you run android as an application in windows mobile.
other way is to flash andoid to nand like we now flash our windows mobile roms.
as far as i know there is not enough room to flash both OSes to nand. <- pls correct me if im wrong
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i think thats wrong. android is NOT an app running in windows mobile. this would mean android is runnning as some kind of emulation. as far as i know, winmo is still needed in order to initialize the hardware. by starting haret.exe, the wince-kernel is shut down and a linux bootloader is started.

hopefully we'll be able to flash an android rom to nand and have a device which can hold either OS equally. I personally like the fact that the HD2 can become versatile. I agree - that if someone wants to run android only, he should buy an Android device. I wanted to have a taste of android with the ability to run WM as i have for the past 4 years.

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I agree - that if someone wants to run android only, he should buy an Android device.
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but if someone wants to run android on such a beautiful piece of hardware like our hd2? have you ever seen a good looking android device (i mean the physical device itself, not the ui)?

hebbe said:
but if someone wants to run android on such a beautiful piece of hardware like our hd2? have you ever seen a good looking android device (i mean the physical device itself, not the ui)?
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I bought the device with the intent on running android. I am not help bent on completely removing it
There hasnt been a device until the evo 4g that had the same screen size. And since i dont hop carriers I cant use the evo.
The my touch 3g slide screen is too small
The my touch screen is too small
The samsung galaxy screen is too small
The g1 screen is too small.
The samsung behold 2 sucked !
THe cliq sucked
The nexus 1 screen is too small
So people do have reasons to have the hd2.
Plus a lot of people I have met with the hd2 didnt realize what they were buying. Most people hate the phone. They then see mine with android and fall in love.

hazard99 said:
I bought the device with the intent on running android. I am not help bent on completely removing it
There hasnt been a device until the evo 4g that had the same screen size. And since i dont hop carriers I cant use the evo.
The my touch 3g slide screen is too small
The my touch screen is too small
The samsung galaxy screen is too small
The g1 screen is too small.
The samsung behold 2 sucked !
THe cliq sucked
The nexus 1 screen is too small
So people do have reasons to have the hd2.
Plus a lot of people I have met with the hd2 didnt realize what they were buying. Most people hate the phone. They then see mine with android and fall in love.
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screen problem will get fix'd with the desire hd ^.^
but running android on the hd2 like it is native would be just awsome.. thats true for sure )

D4rkSoRRoW said:
screen problem will get fix'd with the desire hd ^.^
but running android on the hd2 like it is native would be just awsome.. thats true for sure )
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+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
Can't wait
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Can some one answer this question. What windows mobile 6.5 do, that android can't do? This is my first WM phone and I tho it was alright. I would of got the Evo but I can't switch carriers until the end of the year. Since now we got android, I'm staying with t-mo. I pay full price for this phone ($560.00 in NYC) I first regretted and since android I don't. Anyways I found that android do much more for me than WM. So if I'm wrong please some one tell me. Ps: excuse my english.
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For me, I would consider the NAND flash for Android ROM the 100% fully functional since that is of primary importance to me here.

I bought my HD2 even though I knew it had WM. And at the time I didn't want Android at all, just my WM, but with some configurations & such.
But now that I have Android running on it instead, I never want to go back.
And just like someone else said, there ain't an Android phone around that have the same hardware specs as the HD2. Except the EVO, but I've had my phone a long time before they released the EVO. And from what I know it's only available in the US. Maybe I could import one and configure it to run on Swedish networks, but wth..

The wife and I got this phone and she didn't realize it was Windows Mobile. This was my first experience with Sense UI and thought it was awesome.
I loved the phone for what it could do and actually "Used" it to it's potential. She "HATES" it. Then again, I don't blame her. Sense fails hard when it comes to texting and load lag
She can't wait till I can flash Android to her phone. Me, i'll stick with my options.

D4rkSoRRoW said:
why did u buy a winmo phone when u want android?
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I don't think people who HATE WinMo buy this phone with the sole intent of putting another OS on it. I think most people bought it for the screen & the media capabilities. For me, I saw a lot of potential in the hardware specs and bought mine cause it's the last real WM phone(I'm sappy like that) and because it's a GSM phone that I can unlock & use for years to come. It was like buying a barebones PC that I could run whatever I want on & have multi-boot systems.
I decided to run Android on it initially out of sheer curiosity, and so I can learn the next OS I'm gonna be using. When WM dies out(it's GOING to happen, so we may as well face it), Android will be what I will move on to partly because its Linux & open source, and partly because there's no way in pus-spewing, blood-gutted hell that I would ever use an iPhone or Blackberry(WP7 has NEVER been an option). I must say, Android runs VERY well on this phone even in its current stage of development, I can't wait to see how awesome it'll be as a fully flashable rom. I'm already almost to the point of not even missing WM anymore. I've been running it for a week now & I'm getting to know how everything works & I love it. Very versatile & powerful, and quite stable. I don't think I quite realized just how many lockups and crashes I was really having with WM until I started using Android as my main OS. The first time I used Android I HATED it because I had a bad build & an underpowered phone(One of the first leaked Froyo builds on a Sprint Hero) and it ran like crap. But with the combo I've got now, it's simply awesome. Everything is so integrated & all the programs mesh together so beautifully. It really does 'just work', and it's hackable & customizable at the same time. Best of both worlds. If & when a NAND version of Android for the HD2 comes out, you can count me in.
Don't get me wrong, I will ALWAYS love WinMo. I think it's the best mobile OS there ever was, and it's incredibly sad that it's dying. It would still be going strong if Microsoft had just marketed it better & hadn't copped out with WP7. But I'm not gonna stay with a stagnant platform that nobody develops for anymore(I'd have stayed with Palm OS otherwise), and I was honestly starting to get bored with it. I had pushed WM to it's limits & did everything I could possibly do with it, and it's just time to move on. I believe Android is the wave of the future, and will eventually overtake the iPhone in popularity.
Plus I love robots, so anything named 'Android' is automatically cool in my book

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Friendly robots are a plus in my book.
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Once android 2.2 is fully working, android gingerbread will be released and people can start working on that. Windows phone 7 is also a possibility. Ubuntu is still under development as well. The possibilities are endless.

Why windows mobile 7 when android so much better?
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Need help regarding purchase of HD 2[Thread closed, since I have got my answer :-) ]

Hi guys,
I am originally from the xperia x10 section.
I am gonna buy a windows mobile for my sister on her birthday next Month. She always wanted to buy a windows phone which is fast and stable. The looks of the xperia x1 and HD 2 amazed her.
I wanted your help to choose the best of the two. I know hd2 is superior in specs.
Are there many roms for the hd2?
What might be the future of the device?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
Cheers!
AdY

before you get lots of 'are you serious? can you not see??' type replies, , look around the forum, its the most hacked phone around. winmo android, wp7, dualboot, nand android, sd android, ubuntu, win95, they all work on hd2.
roms, there are loads, what do you want? winmo 6.5, winmo 6.5.5, win phone 7, android eclaire, froyo, gingerbread, have one android on nand another on sd card if you want, run win phone 7 fron nand and dual boot it with sd card android, loooads of options, tehre isnt another phone about with as much choice. (You only have to compare teh number of sub foryums the hd2 has.)
As for the future, it has no future. It is the last of a dying breed. From here on out the phones will be a little less hackable. Thats not to say they wont be hacked, far from it im sure, but the choice of what you run on it is likely to be more limited, and you are unlikely to see a phone that is so easy to switch between OS's for some time.
I for one will by buying up two or three hd2's in the next few months, shoudl last me a year or three.

Hey bro! Thanks forbthe reply. Yes ibhad checked out the forum and I was pretty amazed with the amount of hacking that has been done on this phone.the reason why I am attracted to this device is that it supports or rather runs many popular platforms. I saw a couple of video reviews from phone dog, they say that the device freezes many times! My x10 used to lag but now I have tweaked it, it runs silky smooth. So are there methods to remove the freeze issue?
Thanks a ton
samsamuel said:
before you get lots of 'are you serious? can you not see??' type replies, , look around the forum, its the most hacked phone around. winmo android, wp7, dualboot, nand android, sd android, ubuntu, win95, they all work on hd2.
roms, there are loads, what do you want? winmo 6.5, winmo 6.5.5, win phone 7, android eclaire, froyo, gingerbread, have one android on nand another on sd card if you want, run win phone 7 fron nand and dual boot it with sd card android, loooads of options, tehre isnt another phone about with as much choice. (You only have to compare teh number of sub foryums the hd2 has.)
As for the future, it has no future. It is the last of a dying breed. From here on out the phones will be a little less hackable. Thats not to say they wont be hacked, far from it im sure, but the choice of what you run on it is likely to be more limited, and you are unlikely to see a phone that is so easy to switch between OS's for some time.
I for one will by buying up two or three hd2's in the next few months, shoudl last me a year or three.
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Cheers!
AdY

hd2 or xperia?
hd2 can run ubuntu meego android windows mobile win phone 7 believe it or not even full version of windows 98/me its got a snapdragon 1ghz processor its soooo customizable from boot screens to roms its just a better deal and now you can pick one up on craigslist for under 200 ive seen as low as 150 hd2 is the way to go

I think the biggest thing to consider is how your sister will be able to use the HD2.
Look at what she uses now, and how that is different from the HD2, how tech knowledgeable is she.
Is she interested in changing the ROM? Will she be able to do that? Will you do that for her?
My niece had a Wm6.x phone, but never truly used it to even a fraction of its abilities, and always had problems with it. [Now she has a Blackberry, and is doing great.]

Hey thanks for the reply! By looking at what you said this phone looks very promising! Will definitely go ahead with thus now
gh0zt36 said:
hd2 can run ubuntu meego android windows mobile win phone 7 believe it or not even full version of windows 98/me its got a snapdragon 1ghz processor its soooo customizable from boot screens to roms its just a better deal and now you can pick one up on craigslist for under 200 ive seen as low as 150 hd2 is the way to go
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AdY

Lol its not an issue. She uses the xperia x10 mini. She got quite bored if the form factor and all. I help her installing roms so that isn't an issue. She is pretty tech savy thanks for your suggestion and reply bro! I will definitely go ahead with this device! !! Thanks once again
uzziah0 said:
I think the biggest thing to consider is how your sister will be able to use the HD2.
Look at what she uses now, and how that is different from the HD2, how tech knowledgeable is she.
Is she interested in changing the ROM? Will she be able to do that? Will you do that for her?
My niece had a Wm6.x phone, but never truly used it to even a fraction of its abilities, and always had problems with it. [Now she has a Blackberry, and is doing great.]
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Cheers!
AdY