I just got my N1 today. I've installed a few apps: Amazon, Goggles, Layar, Tmobile My Account, Places Directory, Seesmic, Shazam, Speed Test, StreamFurious.
When I check my internal storage, (Home -> Settings -> SD card & Phone Storage -> Internal phone storage / Available space). I only have 166mb free! I've barely installed anything and 70% of my 512 is used up. What gives?
How about you guys?
I guess the Android ROM simply grew in size. Keep in mind though that Google confirmed at the press conference that a later update to Android will enable you to install apps on the SD-card.
your android OS is stored on the phone storage as well. dont worry thats MORE than enough space. most apps are under a megabyte, heck a good number are under 500KB!
also google has confirmed in the future apps will be stored on SD.
waffle2 said:
I just got my N1 today. I've installed a few apps: Amazon, Goggles, Layar, Tmobile My Account, Places Directory, Seesmic, Shazam, Speed Test, StreamFurious.
When I check my internal storage, (Home -> Settings -> SD card & Phone Storage -> Internal phone storage / Available space). I only have 166mb free! I've barely installed anything and 70% of my 512 is used up. What gives?
How about you guys?
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The full 512 mb's isn't just for app storage. When I started I had 191MB'S available.
can anybody adb shell df?
Settings shows 147 free, which is also indicated by /data below.
df
/dev: 108720K total, 0K used, 108720K available (block size 4096)
/sqlite_stmt_journals: 4096K total, 0K used, 4096K available (block size 4096)
/system: 148480K total, 118636K used, 29844K available (block size 4096)
/data: 200960K total, 53188K used, 147772K available (block size 4096)
/cache: 97280K total, 1796K used, 95484K available (block size 4096)
/sdcard: 7814208K total, 25572K used, 7788636K available (block size 4096)
Mi|enko said:
Settings shows 147 free, which is also indicated by /data below.
df
/dev: 108720K total, 0K used, 108720K available (block size 4096)
/sqlite_stmt_journals: 4096K total, 0K used, 4096K available (block size 4096)
/system: 148480K total, 118636K used, 29844K available (block size 4096)
/data: 200960K total, 53188K used, 147772K available (block size 4096)
/cache: 97280K total, 1796K used, 95484K available (block size 4096)
/sdcard: 7814208K total, 25572K used, 7788636K available (block size 4096)
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I wonder where the missing 75MB went. About 5 MB is recovery, 2-3 MB is boot, radio is about 15 MB and spl/ipl are both about 400k combined, that's still about 40 MB missing (well, I guess by 512 MB they actually mean 512,000 B, kB, not 524,288 like it should be, so more like 25 MB missing)
Sorry to bump this thread. I've had my phone for just a month and today I got a notification telling me my internal phone storage was full. I freed some space by clearing history, cache, and that stuff in the browser. My 'available space' in settings is now about 60 mb.
Is this normal? I dont have that many apps (exactly 25 apps from the market) , and certainly not games. Now that the browser (which was using 32 mb) is fixed, except for google earth, flash palyer and maps, most of them are just below 30 mb.
Is there something wrong? I had an htc magic for a year and this NEVER happened.
Bumping 1/2-year-old thread instead of reading detailed specs and realizing that Nexus has 190MB data storage would definitely seem wrong to some people, myself included.
Use "Move to SD card" option on all your apps that allow it, or root and install custom ROMs that allow using old-school Apps2SD.
And I have more than 200 apps.
29,86 MB free.
144 Apps installed and 34 of them saved to SD Card (FroYo Apps2SD)
Jack_R1 said:
Bumping 1/2-year-old thread instead of reading detailed specs and realizing that Nexus has 190MB data storage would definitely seem wrong to some people, myself included.
Use "Move to SD card" option on all your apps that allow it, or root and install custom ROMs that allow using old-school Apps2SD.
And I have more than 200 apps.
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I am aware the phone has the 190 mb limitation. Still can't believe I get an 'phone memory full' notification after a month with only 25 apps installed (with only 6 of them, at most, over 5 mb). I used an htc magic for a year, installed way more apps, and never had this problem.
The poster above me has over 100 apps installed on the phone memory and still 30 mb free. I have 25, literally, and have had the phone for a month.
So excuse me for believing something is awfully wrong. My post is not "omg, why does my new phone not have around 512 mb free?". My question is why is my phone's memory full after a month, and why can people have 4 times the amount of apps I have without this problem
PS: none of the apps I have allow for the Move to SD option yet.
Try clearing the browser/Facebook/text message/etc data
Sent from my Nexus One
Again, as other said, you need App2sd or ModIstallLocation from the market to force SD installation or if you search you will find all of them there on the forum (You will also need to be rooted).
If you put everything except apps with widget on your SD and are a little carefull with what you download + clean various caches from time to time (or put cache on SD which is also possible) then you will manage to put a lot enough and still remain over 30mb available.
My case I have 110 apps and 41mb available.
jcar87 said:
I am aware the phone has the 190 mb limitation. Still can't believe I get an 'phone memory full' notification after a month with only 25 apps installed (with only 6 of them, at most, over 5 mb). I used an htc magic for a year, installed way more apps, and never had this problem.
The poster above me has over 100 apps installed on the phone memory and still 30 mb free. I have 25, literally, and have had the phone for a month.
So excuse me for believing something is awfully wrong. My post is not "omg, why does my new phone not have around 512 mb free?". My question is why is my phone's memory full after a month, and why can people have 4 times the amount of apps I have without this problem
PS: none of the apps I have allow for the Move to SD option yet.
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Yep, it's probably browser cache, I've seen it go as high as 12M and in reality it takes much more than that (lots of small files, larger block sizes). I've cleared 6M of cache and gotten back 11M of ram in the browser.
Sort your applications by size, what do you come up with? The cache they contain IS listed with them.
you can make ext3 partition & use app2sd than & force app to instal on ext3 partition
I have big game ,without games I can sure rich 140
I`m now et 82apps
The results of a benchmark test between the latest SuperD and WG-Build.
Test it out for yourself by trying out the Benchmark app on the Market.
Results vary from continuous testing, so I randomly chose results from both builds. This is solely for eye candy, both builds are top notch.
Note: Stock sd card, no swap, & no partitions. Graphics & SD performance are irrelevant.
SuperD v1.6.6 Beta
null null null
Processor ARMv6-compatible processor rev 2 (v6l) Linux BogoMIPS 527.15
Memory RAM 107308 Memory SWAP 0
Graphics
Total graphics score;111.03144
Draw opacity bitmap;51.848103;MPixels per sec
Draw transparent bitmap;16.062744;MPixels per sec
CPU Whetstone
Total CPU score;164.62811
MWIPS DP;11.903345;MWIPS(DP)
MWIPS SP;12.66464;MWIPS(SP)
MFLOPS DP;2.048397;MFLOPS(DP)
MFLOPS SP;2.7848635;MFLOPS(SP)
VAX MIPS DP;8.102909;VAX MIPS(DP)
VAX MIPS SP;8.2380085;VAX MIPS(SP)
Memory
Total memory score;121.14707
Copy memory;110.083664;Mb/sec
Filesystem
Total file system score;30.449072
Creating 1000 empty files;10.171;sec
Deleting 1000 empty files;8.868;sec
Write 1M into file;1.7352073;M/sec
Read 1M from file;59.52381;sM/sec;
SD card perfomance
Creating 250 empty files;8.428;sec
Deleting 250 empty files;7.38;sec
Write 1M into file;20.08032;M/sec
Read 1M from file;57.142857;sM/sec;
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WG-Build Y-2.6 w/ CFS RH
null null null
Processor ARMv6-compatible processor rev 2 (v6l) Linux BogoMIPS 527.15
Memory RAM 107352 Memory SWAP 0
Graphics
Total graphics score;106.851555
Draw opacity bitmap;49.70874;MPixels per sec
Draw transparent bitmap;15.645533;MPixels per sec
CPU Whetstone
Total CPU score;167.25008
MWIPS DP;11.893435;MWIPS(DP)
MWIPS SP;12.928248;MWIPS(SP)
MFLOPS DP;2.1477563;MFLOPS(DP)
MFLOPS SP;2.8348467;MFLOPS(SP)
VAX MIPS DP;8.318737;VAX MIPS(DP)
VAX MIPS SP;8.347658;VAX MIPS(SP)
Memory
Total memory score;108.55199
Copy memory;98.63879;Mb/sec
Filesystem
Total file system score;30.577122
Creating 1000 empty files;9.675;sec
Deleting 1000 empty files;7.264;sec
Write 1M into file;1.9928259;M/sec
Read 1M from file;59.52381;sM/sec;
SD card perfomance
Creating 250 empty files;11.568;sec
Deleting 250 empty files;29.184;sec
Write 1M into file;8.326395;M/sec
Read 1M from file;59.171597;sM/sec;
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Good stuff.
Thanks for this!
its a tie.
I just noticed the SD card came preloaded with 7Gbs of stuff inside.. But.. What stuff? I removed everything that I had on the SD and it said it had 7Gb still been used.
I notice that the stock card was only showing half the capacity as well, without any actual files being on it. I would suggest just reformatting the card.
No big deal for me since I'm using a 32GB card but I did notice the size discrepancy.
full 16 gigs here. well, accually 14.7
austin420 said:
full 16 gigs here. well, accually 14.7
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Same for me. What size is the card showing when you put it in a pc directly?
Gipionocheiyort said:
Same for me. What size is the card showing when you put it in a pc directly?
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14.7. And it had around 7.10 used.
The 16GB card shows only 14.7GB because the other 1.3GB is used by the file system/structure when the card is formated. Without the file sytem created on the card, it would be useless as the device would not know where to look for the files you store on the memory card. On a 32GB card the file system created should technicaly be double of the 16GB. My 8GB memory card only shows like 7.4GB after a format if I remember correctly. Hope I answered some questions.
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The 16GB card shows only 14.7GB because the other 1.3GB is used by the file system/structure when the card is formated. Without the file sytem created on the card, it would be useless as the device would not know where to look for the files you store on the memory card. On a 32GB card the file system created should technicaly be double of the 16GB. My 8GB memory card only shows like 7.4GB after a format if I remember correctly. Hope I answered some questions.
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Not really, I think we all know this. I said the memory stick came preloaded with 7Gb of extra stuff.
Mine has over 14GB of free space 16GB card the Epic comes with. Left it as it came in the box and didn't format it. The only things I added to it myself (outside of the stuff the phone's apps adds) were the pictures from my old phone and the rooting/recovery stuff downloaded here.
wait so do you have 7,9 or 14 gigs of space left? Cause i had 14
There's some 14.xGBs of free'd up space on the sd card when you buy it, at least on mine and most people I've talked to, so I don't know what's up with yours coming loaded with 7GBs this mystery data.
I have 14 gigs of free space on my card too.
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Mine didn't come with anything preloaded. 14.7GB free from the getgo. Have you tried just formatting it completely?
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The 16GB card shows only 14.7GB because the other 1.3GB is used by the file system/structure when the card is formated. Without the file sytem created on the card, it would be useless as the device would not know where to look for the files you store on the memory card. On a 32GB card the file system created should technicaly be double of the 16GB. My 8GB memory card only shows like 7.4GB after a format if I remember correctly. Hope I answered some questions.
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um... no...
this is caused by manufacturers marketing vs how computers count bytes.
1 kb = 1024 bytes
1 mb = 1024 x 1024 = 1,048,579 bytes
1 gb = 1024 x 1024 x 1024 = 1,073,741,824 bytes
manufactures market 1 gb = 1,000,000,000 bytes
it would take 17,179,869,184 bytes to be a full 16gb
manufactures only put 16,000,000,000 bytes on a card
((16,000,000,000 / 1024) / 1024) / 1024 = 14.9011612 gb
I remember reading that the prerelease versions of the Epic (like mine) would have the full version of Asphalt 5, and the versions for the public would have the demo only. I had about 7GB full on my card, figured it was a glitch, and formatted. Now I've finally gotten around to downloading Asphalt and it's the demo. Good thing I hate racing games, but still...
I just got my SanDisk 128GB micro SD.
Put the 128 in the adapter and plugged into PC.
Attached the Note 3 to PC with USB 3 cable.
Copied all the files in the 64 GB card (folder by folder) to the new card.
Put the new card in the Note.
Some things like video moved fine.
Docs to Go needed to be reinstalled and then refused to read the docs.
Many aps come up "grayed out" with sd on the icon.
They all seem to need to be re installed.
What did I do wrong?
How do I do this transfer correctly - I still have my Note 8 to do.
Thanks.
Shofar
Shofar1 said:
I just got my SanDisk 128GB micro SD.
Put the 128 in the adapter and plugged into PC.
Attached the Note 3 to PC with USB 3 cable.
Copied all the files in the 64 GB card (folder by folder) to the new card.
Put the new card in the Note.
Some things like video moved fine.
Docs to Go needed to be reinstalled and then refused to read the docs.
Many aps come up "grayed out" with sd on the icon.
They all seem to need to be re installed.
What did I do wrong?
How do I do this transfer correctly - I still have my Note 8 to do.
Thanks.
Shofar
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Note3 does not support 128Gb. 64 max.
Asminok said:
Note3 does not support 128Gb. 64 max.
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Not true at all.
Under Settings, Storage it shows my SD card at 119 GB capacity.
Available 114 GB
No I don't know where where 9 GB disappeared to.
Shofar1 said:
Not true at all.
Under Settings, Storage it shows my SD card at 119 GB capacity.
Available 114 GB
No I don't know where where 9 GB disappeared to.
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The difference from 119 to 128 is from the difference of "measurement units" in storage vs memory - 119 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 is about the same as 128 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000. The funny part is that the difference is not really stolen by Sandisk, the card almost certainly has 128 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 but the difference is used for basically error-correction.
The problem with the copy 64->128 is that there might be hidden files on the 64 which are not easily visible over MTP, probably the safest way is to get both cards directly connected to some PC and some software that is showing you everything (or alternatively some software that does "disk migration").
You missed a folder. The phone won't show it, not even over mtp, but a computer does.
It's called .Android_secure, I believe. This contains the app files.
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Ascend XT2 H1711
when i go to settings and memory capacity management, the part where you see all the used internal memory capacity, in android7 i see this:
16gb total internal memory capacity:
+Free space: 6.40GB
+firmware: 6.83GB
+apps: 1.3GB
besides those 3 things wont add to 16gb, i only have whatsapp installed and took some photos that are 20meg in total.
So what is going on with this phone?
how come firmware is 6.40gb ?? that is crazy , its eating up a lot of space. What is firmware? Android7 takes that much space?
Because of this, the phone is very limited as have only 6.4gb of space left and practically havent installed anything from the app store.
ZeldaWW said:
Ascend XT2 H1711
when i go to settings and memory capacity management, the part where you see all the used internal memory capacity, in android7 i see this:
16gb total internal memory capacity:
+Free space: 6.40GB
+firmware: 6.83GB
+apps: 1.3GB
besides those 3 things wont add to 16gb, i only have whatsapp installed and took some photos that are 20meg in total.
So what is going on with this phone?
how come firmware is 6.40gb ?? that is crazy , its eating up a lot of space. What is firmware? Android7 takes that much space?
Because of this, the phone is very limited as have only 6.4gb of space left and practically havent installed anything from the app store.
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If you use an app like diskinfo in the play store you'll see the full partition layout of the phone
cache = 1.2gb
system = 2.4gb
data = 9.2gb
swap = 1gb
other = ??? (this is what runs the phone and is mostly firmware)