Less bug in their Driver (Bluetooth, Audio, SOC, WiFi), Modem/Radio, TouchWiz 3, and Android Sources in Froyo will give Samsung a faster way to upgrade.
In the future, after Samsung releases Froyo, expect shorter time to upgrade the Epic to (name an android delicious snack).
And because Samsung has own System on a Chip (hummingbird), Samsung has to develop drivers for SOC, it take a long time to find bug and fixing them for future upgrade.
I hope your right... So whats taking so long with CM6.2 lol ,j/k
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I hope your right... So whats taking so long with CM6.2 lol ,j/k
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Because of Samsung's bugs in the Modem/Kernel
Thanks for the update.
Shouldn't this be in general?
Mugen678 said:
Shouldn't this be in general?
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yes........
Mugen678 said:
Shouldn't this be in general?
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He's Noobnl...he's one of our "Gods" here he can do w/e he wants 8)
Silly question... is there a Galaxy-S specific to S. Korea? I *know* it wouldn't be the i9000, because S. Korea is 100% CDMA. I'd expect *that one* to have the most active open-source activity, just b/c that's the model Samsung's own developers would be using in real life.
S. Korea is kind of strange... to Americans & Europeans, it looks closed & proprietary. In reality, it has an *incredibly* active homebrew scene. The problem is, Korean doesn't commonly Romanize loanwords, so if you can't read Hangul writing, it looks more alien than even Chinese, and way more foreign than Japanese usually does. And reinforcing the isolation, it's a big country with domestic dev scene that's big enough to keep most Koreans totally happy... for them, there's not much value to make the trouble of digging through English forums worthwhile.
I know this because I have a Robotis Bioloid robot. Their English software & docs are almost *ancient* compared to the Korean ones. Seeing the gap was very eye-opening.
Anyway, my point is that the sourcecode to the CDMA-related .ko modules we need for Froyo & Gingerbread is probably floating around in public *right now* on a site like XDA in Korea. We just need to find it ;-)
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Thanks to noobnl for giving us an idea of why this has been taking forever. atleast we have some answer now.
Now that ppl now know this maybe they'll stop with the blame game I hope! :-D
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Are they even releasing Froyo or are they jumping straight to Gingerbread? At this point, might as well just skip Froyo all together, but seems Samsung hasn't ironed out all the bugs in even Froyo yet.
There will probably be a new Samsung phone out with Gingerbread by the time they get Froyo out for the Epic. Heck they'll prob release the second gen Epic 4G before Froyo comes out.
Reminds me of my frustrating days as a Palm owner. At least we have devs and roms for our Epic.
Froyo
Can't we just create a sticky that says "Lasciate ogni speranza voi ch'entrate"... I kid... Mostly
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There will probably be a new Samsung phone out with Gingerbread by the time they get Froyo out for the Epic. Heck they'll prob release the second gen Epic 4G before Froyo comes out.
Reminds me of my frustrating days as a Palm owner. At least we have devs and roms for our Epic.
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This reminds me of my last Android phone. I originally had a Hero, we didn't get an official 2.1 until after the EVO came out. Luckily CM6 came out blew the hero away. and then I blew mine apart, from about 300 yards, with a 30-06.
Latest Epic System Dump
anyone (dev's) know what OS this dump is and can you do anything with it? Please enlighten us.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=294273#post294273
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anyone (dev's) know what OS this dump is and can you do anything with it? Please enlighten us.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=294273#post294273
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Dude, that was posted before the epic was released. It was just a head start for dev's in the beginning.
get thE PICture?
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anyone (dev's) know what OS this dump is and can you do anything with it? Please enlighten us.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=294273#post294273
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Eclair, not helpful at this point.
sorry 'bout that
yeah... old post... I didn't see the date until after I posted it. Crap on me.... I had a retarded moment. LOL
I'm confused about something.. (unless recent rumors are true), couldn't samsung just release the source *unofficially* and have developers work on it? And then when their team is ready working out their own stuff, they/sprint can push out their own update?
It would be easier to have patience with Samsung if they actually gave one date and stuck to it. Instead we get Tweets, false rumors, and other phones updating before we get anything. Never again with Samsung.
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Still not here... Where the heck is it!!?
I'm getting a little tired of waiting for a gps fix.
not positive but i'm pretty sure samsung said the end of september :[
and trust me, we all are.
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not positive but i'm pretty sure samsung said the end of september :[
and trust me, we all are.
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At the earliest most likely... patience Lil grasshopper
samsung is holding an event on the 16th to show off the media hub on the galaxy s phones and to show off some new models. I'd expect them to make an official announcement then since they've been rather quiet recently.
Some tmo rep said the same thing. End of this month. He also had to mention the g2 end of this month too. Kinda wondered should have I waited
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Some tmo rep said the same thing. End of this month. He also had to mention the g2 end of this month too. Kinda wondered should have I waited
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eh, the G2 isn't much of an upgrade over the slide so I'd say you made the right choice.
Well with verizon's version of the galaxy s out, i think there is nothing to hold a massive upgrade to all versions back.
given that the tab is going to be running froyo real soon, the galaxy s phones shouldn't be that far behind. in fact, i think they should get the update first, but hey, what do i know
is this the latest update we'll get? will we be getting 3.0?
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is this the latest update we'll get? will we be getting 3.0?
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considering the number of devices sold, we'll probably get 3.0
Gingerbread would be great and a good pr move on the part of samsung. My expectation is low though simply because they will want people to buy new phones. Gingerbread will be an easy upgrade too because out would be vanilla with touchwiz and widgets being addons. The Tab has similar hardware and it may get it, making a custom ROM likely.
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Not the time to talk about Gingerbread right?
I need the froyo first!!
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My expectation is low though simply because they will want people to buy new phones.
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ugh. i hope not. the galaxy s is pretty much future proof for the time being, as it smokes any snapdragons out there. if samsung doesn't want their flagship phone to sink, they will thoroughly support it
(i hope)
My expectation is low though simply because they will want people to buy new phones.
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Me too. Samsung known for their bad support for older models !
For example Samsung Omnia they stopped supporting the device after 1 year only !! NO WM6.5 !!
HTC is way better in supporting old mobiles !
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Me too. Samsung known for their bad support for older models !
For example Samsung Omnia they stopped supporting the device after 1 year only !! NO WM6.5 !!
HTC is way better in supporting old mobiles !
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Last I checked, Samsung hasn't actually offered a phone to 100 carriers around the planet, including all 4 US national carriers.
As long as a single large American carrier demands the next version of Android, we ALL will get it.
I don't see the connection between froyo and the gps fix. If it was an android fix then we should have a fix already, I expect it is firmware based.
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disagree it is one of the best phones yet with a processor with less Mhz but still out preforms.
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its performance boost I would imagine is because of the JIT compiler found in android 2.2.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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its performance boost I would imagine is because of the JIT compiler found in android 2.2.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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I believe you're on point with that statement. I too could be wrong though
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dalepa said:
Still not here... Where the heck is it!!?
I'm getting a little tired of waiting for a gps fix.
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What you didn't get the OTA last night
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is this the latest update we'll get? will we be getting 3.0?
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Well I just got of the phone with my contacts at Tmo. and Samsung and they have it set for Xmas day......
On a more serious note...
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its performance boost I would imagine is because of the JIT compiler found in android 2.2.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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Im thinking this is also true, which leads me to think that this phone is going to be pretty damn awesome after 2.2. Then again this could just be wishful thinking...
Just wondering how the GalaxyS community is going to react if 2.2 isn't 100% PERFECT.... :grabs popcorn:
mmmm popcorn.... mmmm (visits microwave...)
anyone whining bout the gps fix needs to check out rooting and flashing eugenes vibrant 9 rom, ive made this comment like 15 times buuuuuut. i get a lock within 10meters in only 10 seconds with the gps on and the cell tower assist feature on. no nead to play around in Lbstestmode menus just turn on location settings in the menu open maps and find "my location"... and this is inside my apartment....
I cant wait for ALL the bonuses in 2.2 like flash and included wifi tethering but do we really need to make a million threads about it??? lol
guesses? rumors? news? anyone? lots of hype about this. but it kinda seems like vibrant is gonna get left in the dust seeing as how we are still on 2.1. from what i have been reading, 2.3 (gingerbread) will be out within a week! so us vibrant users will be 2 versions behind! (wtf tmo and samsung?) my thoughts are maybe they didnt update us cuz they where just waiting for 2.3 to come out and wanted to get all the updating done at once. but i do kinda live in a fantasy world (drugs are bad mmmkay) so what are the thought from the fine folks here at xda on this matter?
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guesses? rumors? news? anyone? lots of hype about this. but it kinda seems like vibrant is gonna get left in the dust seeing as how we are still on 2.1. from what i have been reading, 2.3 (gingerbread) will be out within a week! so us vibrant users will be 2 versions behind! (wtf tmo and samsung?) my thoughts are maybe they didnt update us cuz they where just waiting for 2.3 to come out and wanted to get all the updating done at once. but i do kinda live in a fantasy world (drugs are bad mmmkay) so what are the thought from the fine folks here at xda on this matter?
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Lol JK2 was leaked. We will have an official froyo soon seing as that. And we will be able to port 2.3, don't worry
not sure what jk2 is. i am still kinda a noob. but that would be nice to get an official 2.2 update. i kinda want flash so i can watch southpark. haha
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not sure what jk2 is. i am still kinda a noob. but that would be nice to get an official 2.2 update. i kinda want flash so i can watch southpark. haha
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Jk2 is a build number of the most recent (and most important since its specifically for vibrants) froyo. Before this all the froyo roms out has been built off of other variations on diff models/carrier.
The fact that jk2 was leaked means the official ota for all tmobile customers is real and immenent.
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huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
djkozdefantastico said:
huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
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It doesn't matter if they do or not. Like I said above, "We can port it"
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huh. well nice! still, im hearing rumors that they aren't gonna make an official 2.3 for the vibrant. which i dont know if i mind or not. but i still wanted to see what everyons opinion on that is?
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I doubt we'll ever see an official 2.3. Samsung will probably release 2.2 somewhere between 2-4 months behind the competition. That doesn't give me great hope that we'll ever seen 2.3. Figure that it took HTC/Motorola 2-3 months to turn 2.2 final into 2.2 custom versions to OTA, then we are looking at 4-7 months from now for 2.3 if all of the same timeframes hold. That's probably past the window that this phone will receive official updates.
well seems like the ported versions of the firmware updates have problems, like the headphone jack not working. or gps lagging ect. (not to say the developers didnt do a good job{ cuz they did an awesome job}) but i use that stuff lots. i agree with lex tho. i think that we will probly stop geting updates after awhile so that the newer more awesome phones can get bought up.
Akaskriller say he has an official 2.2 froyo ready for those who donates to his site.. I saw the vid it looks good
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Tough call. I would say 1 year till official release...
mmmm im thinkin honeycomb (3.0) will be out within a year. prob not for our phones tho. we will have to upgrade to the we will have to upgrade to the galaxy t hahaha
2.3 won't be that different
2.3 won't be that different It will change the resolution mainly to allow a bigger screen Right now 2.2 really can only function on a 7 inch screen without some mods so 2.3 will have that integrated. 3.0 will have real differences, but Vibrant has become the developers phone of choice so, you will see that on the phone as soon as it gets out.
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2.3 won't be that different It will change the resolution mainly to allow a bigger screen Right now 2.2 really can only function on a 7 inch screen without some mods so 2.3 will have that integrated. 3.0 will have real differences, but Vibrant has become the developers phone of choice so, you will see that on the phone as soon as it gets out.
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ROFL.
No, not really.
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Akaskriller say he has an official 2.2 froyo ready for those who donates to his site.. I saw the vid it looks good
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it is no more official than any of the others that are out.
I doubt it will take that long. Look, the Galaxy S took a while because these are the first phones using the Hummingbird CPU. People say HTC and Motorola are more on the ball, but they're using the same Snapdragon and OMAP cores since the beginning. Heck, Froyo was originally built for the Snapdragon--no wonder Froyo is easy to port to those phones.
Now they've got Froyo on the Hummingbird, I would think future releases will be easier to port based on the accumulated experience.
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I doubt we'll ever see an official 2.3. Samsung will probably release 2.2 somewhere between 2-4 months behind the competition. That doesn't give me great hope that we'll ever seen 2.3. Figure that it took HTC/Motorola 2-3 months to turn 2.2 final into 2.2 custom versions to OTA, then we are looking at 4-7 months from now for 2.3 if all of the same timeframes hold. That's probably past the window that this phone will receive official updates.
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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You don't visited the developer section much or what?
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Froyo was out in January, wasn't it...?
That's more than 2-4 months ago.
I don't ever expect to see 2.3 from Sammy. We'll honestly be lucky if we ever see an official & working 2.2.
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No. Froyo was pushed to the nexus one in late june.
HTC/Motorola pushed it 2-3 months after that and samsung will wind up another 2-4 months after that, depending on when they finally push it.
2.3 will be pushed any day now to the nexus one, so you can do the math from there if you assume the same timeline. My guess its that pushes 2.3 out of the window for the upgrade.
Guys.. Froyo should be out before Christmas. Team Whiskey and Eugene already got it. And tmobile is sending OTA to people with JI6 to downgrade back to JFD. They're preparing peoples phones.
Okay, we have froyo, now we are set... OH WAIT GINGERBREAD IS COMING OUT I AM NEVER HAPPY OTHER PHONES WILL HAVE IT BEFORE ME CRY CRY CRY CRY.
Seriously, I can assure you gingerbread is not going to come out this year.
And the N1 is the dev phone so of course it's going to be first to snatch up the latests firmware.
Heck, samsung or tmobile DIDNT PROMISE YOU ANY UPDATES. You bought the phone and that is it. They have your money, what are you going to do know? Didn't you check on the behold? I think they are stuck on 1.6 same as the Cliq. BE HPPY you got froyo.
I don't care what anyone else says, I happy with my froyo.
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Heck, samsung or tmobile DIDNT PROMISE YOU ANY UPDATES.
I don't care what anyone else says, I happy with my froyo.
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actually when i bought the phone i got ****in played man. haha the people at the t-mo store told me i would get all the updates as soon as they came out, and that i would get 4 g on my vibrant. thats when i didnt know much about the phone, or phones at all. but now that im doing my research, im finding out that none of that stuff is true! im liking t-mo. but dont like how they lied to me to buy the vibrant. i was even looking right at the g2. like 'what about this one?' 'na man! you want the vibrant' i love my vibrant. but i also am gonna want 4g and firmware updates in the future.
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4229-android-gingerbread-samsung-epic-captivate-fascinate-vibrant
If this is true, and followed through it will restore my faith in Samsung.
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Just a rumor.... but makes sense.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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My understanding is that the Nexus S (like the Nexus One) is a stripped down, super-phone, demonstration of new technology and in this case the most notable difference would be the form factor and the NFC. I think Sammy would face more backlash from consumers for ignoring hardware customers already paid for so as to make a new product with near-identical hardware better.
I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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That *would* make sense. Also, it would rock.
Is the person who posted that credible?
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Is the person who posted that credible?
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From the article:
While only a rumor, he's usually spot on and the tweet does seem very plausible so we wouldn't be surprised if Samsung Galaxy S phones (Captivate, Fascinate, Epic 4G and Vibrant) will beat HTC and Motorola devices to Android 2.3.
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Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
I honestly though don't care about gingerbread all that much. I'm planning to have this phone for awhile. It does everything I need with ease. Big difference from when I had the Moment and from day 1 felt the need to smash it into a wall because of how slow and laggy it was. I would hope samsung realizes this isn't a phone to cut ties with because it defintely has staying power even after it's superceded by something faster on paper but probably only marginably faster in real world use.
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So if you're wondering why Samsung hasn't bothered upgrading most of its smartphons to Android 2.2 Froyo yet then this could be the reason. Let's see if Samsung leapfrogs to Android Gingerbread before the holidays or not.
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if we skip straight to 2.3 I will start rescuing kittens!!!!
With how good samsung did with sales from all the galaxy s phones, i wouldnt be surprised that they would do this.. that would be so sweet to have gingerbread on epic and since its on the nexus s with samehardware screen and stats, makes sense they could upgrade all variants epic will definitly be the top of the line if it got gingerbread, but also i agree with the poster above about caring less as long as i have a good running phone with 2.2 ill be set til the dual core processors come out and another top of the line phone comes out for sprint next year or 2 years,
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From the article:
Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
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Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I would have to agree with you. It would be nice, and it would increase following among sammy, but will it be released soon? At this point, possibly but not probably.
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I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
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Indeed. I spent months reading about how my Mytouch was getting Eclair only to be let down every time. I will say that if they do leapfrog 2.2 and get my device up-to-android-date then when I buy my fiancee's new phone in about a month she'll be getting a Sammy device. Otherwise, I'm not going to get her a phone that's always out-of-date.
Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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i completly agree with you hopefully it doesnt get posted all over the place including the develpment thread, this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
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Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
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What you are saying makes a lot of sense. Good post.
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this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
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;-) np .... Hopefully we could keep most gingerbread talk here. After all, anything we hear to this point are only to be considered rumors.
why be mad that update for froyo isnt out OTA. when u can get it off this site right now anyways? I say who gives a **** about sprint, or samsung when your going to d/l what the developers make for us anyhow. I dont know about you, but makes no sence to get rid of my froyo now that works great with rom i love. just to restart back over again for samsungs/sprint version of froyo. which i bet will be slower and more bloat wear i bet. So why does any1 even give a **** about this froyo update anyways?.
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why be mad that update for froyo isnt out OTA. when u can get it off this site right now anyways? I say who gives a **** about sprint, or samsung when your going to d/l what the developers make for us anyhow. I dont know about you, but makes no sence to get rid of my froyo now that works great with rom i love. just to restart back over again for samsungs/sprint version of froyo. which i bet will be slower and more bloat wear i bet. So why does any1 even give a **** about this froyo update anyways?.
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Its the principle buddy. This forum wouldn't run if people didn't have things to complain about
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I dont know if it is so much that people want the sprint version. I think there are some of us who would like the final version so that the developers are working off the best release possible instead of having to guess at stuff.
I am on mammon's rom right now, and I don't plan on taking it off any time soon as it is fast and everything works. Only thing I plan on doing is upgrading as he upgrades the versions.
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I dont know if it is so much that people want the sprint version. I think there are some of us who would like the final version so that the developers are working off the best release possible instead of having to guess at stuff.
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In addition to this, we really want the source code. THAT is when the real goodness begins. We can only do so much with the leaks because there's no source code.
All of this (delays, drama, crying etc.) reminds me of my Moment
The thing is, I believe most of us were expecting more from Samsung/Sprint this time around...
I, for one, will be selling my Epic as soon as the dual core stuff comes out and I DEFINITLY won't get another samsung product... might even ditch Sprint at this point as well..
/rant
Like daddymikey said we want the source code without it development wont be half as good as it can be.
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People need to *****. That's all.
The frustration is that with this update I have hopes for new bells and whistles but also bug/software fixes. I'd like my gps to get a lock quicker. I'd like the keyboard to catch every key I press. I'm tired of having one of Sprint's finest phones and not the most current software available. This will probably be my last Samsung device. I'm not impressed and feel like I should be.
Source code buddy.
Probably cause these Froyo beta versions are not fully optimized like DI18 Eclair was on 2.1. DI18 was overall faster, smoother and more stable than dk28. The advantages of dk28 are the new features like flash, apis to sd, new available apps in the market, perfect working gps, etc.
My biggest frustration with dk28 is with how poorly it handles multitasking. Apps just don't want to run in the background.
Simple Samsung/Sprint = Liers
And I ****ing hate liers
Do yu understand that?
And the hole not having the sorce code yet wtf samsung. I know your about to have a war over in Korea. But dam its like your phone devs just need to be replaced or some thing
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I don't care about official Froyo, I just want the source code to be released!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871996
Well, I don't know if it's working, but looks like the XDA Nook Color forum has the right idea on threads like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871996
Edit: thread moved post.. post.
+1K on the op's. People should be happy with what they've got.
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I need froyo to be available for business users. No way I am rooting their phones
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zman519 said:
Simple Samsung/Sprint = Liers
And I ****ing hate liers
Do yu understand that?
And the hole not having the sorce code yet wtf samsung. I know your about to have a war over in Korea. But dam its like your phone devs just need to be replaced or some thing
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Post of the year.
stir fry a lot said:
Post of the year.
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+1
some people are loosing theyre mind here...
maxhax2000 said:
why be mad that update for froyo isnt out OTA. when u can get it off this site right now anyways? I say who gives a **** about sprint, or samsung when your going to d/l what the developers make for us anyhow. I dont know about you, but makes no sence to get rid of my froyo now that works great with rom i love. just to restart back over again for samsungs/sprint version of froyo. which i bet will be slower and more bloat wear i bet. So why does any1 even give a **** about this froyo update anyways?.
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The real question is why aren't you mad? You bought a top of the kind phone don't you think you deserve to of the line support? When companies mis manage customer support like sprint and samsung have with the epic, do you just smile and say thanks?
I really don't understand how anyone can not be upset that sprint and samsung are screwing their customers. Not to mention that the release of source code will make the developer roms even better.
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I got a solution, I don't care about the ota froyo update anymore. What if we all just ask samsung for a source code for the developers to work on here https://sales.liveperson.net/hc/491...43636279253049823-8107768404509335636K7444953
So what's the deal with the images showing instructions for the DL11 and the release date being today? Photoshop? Why would someone do that?
Most of the people crying about it are the fanboys who are realizing that Samsung is a terrible company when it comes for support of their products.
It doesn't matter if the source is released or not, the majority of the roms are a joke anyway, most "devs" here have no clue what the hell they are doing.
The official version has already been leaked!!!!! How long do you think it will take before it reaches the Epic?
http://gameolosophy.com/games/official-gingerbread-rom-already-for-galaxy-s/
Optimistically?
Never.
gokuman56 said:
The official version has already been leaked!!!!! How long do you think it will take before it reaches the Epic?
http://gameolosophy.com/games/official-gingerbread-rom-already-for-galaxy-s/
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It should be out by Friday... the latest.
Come on guys
I think it will be out by next month
apatcas said:
It should be out by Friday... the latest.
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That can't be very likely
apatcas said:
It should be out by Friday... the latest.
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Yes my trustworthy sources say Friday is the latest it will be pushed to our phones... I'm good friends with a sprint rep...
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Yes my trustworthy sources say Friday is the latest it will be pushed to our phones... I'm good friends with a sprint rep...
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LOL, OK, so now we know for sure that it won't be out by Friday. Or ever.
Do we have to play this game again? I think everybody already know the answer considering our froyo wait.
I hate "Top Flight Security Mods"
I have a friend who works in the Sprint retail store and he told me that developers at Samsung are currently working on a Gingerbread for our Epic4g. He said the latest build was ZM>9000 and that they let him test it and it was pretty awesome.
Are you guys pulling my leg or telling the truth? lol
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Are you guys pulling my leg or telling the truth? lol
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Considering you pretty much answered your own question...
gokuman56 said:
The official version has already been leaked!!!!! How long do you think it will take before it reaches the Epic?
http://gameolosophy.com/games/official-gingerbread-rom-already-for-galaxy-s/
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gokuman56 said:
I think it will be out by next month
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what else were you expecting?
Well, I just wanted your opinions, so I posted......................... lol, but I see now that much of the Galaxy S team has lost its spirit, but what if we get gingerbread before the EVO? How will it feel then?
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Well, I just wanted your opinions, so I posted......................... lol, but I see now that much of the Galaxy S team has lost its spirit, but what if we get gingerbread before the EVO? How will it feel then?
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It will feel horrible because it will be a buggy mess. Let them get Froyo sorted out before they begin to use this as a buggy base of their Gingerbread build. I do believe Samsung will deliver Gingerbread, but dont even think it will be before Summer 2011. I have nothing against Samsung really. They could do better with software support though. And you will find ridiculous skepticism among people at XDA for anything positive that is "supposed" to be coming from Samsung in the future.
Thats true, well then, I guess, well just wait and see, anybody else want to share opinions?
updates!
I personally do NOT think we will ever see another update past froyo...
We might get a froyo update to fix bugs and what not but as far as 2.3 ect, they will leave the epic by the wayside and focus on the galaxy S2 series and other newer phones. The epic was just a complete failure and they know it, thats why they are come out with galaxy S2.
well idk, its a tough call...
took a long time for froyo...
but then you can look at it like "well samsung sees how the US folk are all pissed off so they might start trying to release more updates bla bla"
if the epic does get gingerbread, dont expect any update past that..because past that Samsung will expect us to do our part and buy another Samsung device.
I think personally Gingerbread will come just to rebuild some goodwill with the people of this country. Then maybe with that, we would buy the next uber Samsung phone. At least by getting Froyo, my Evo owning friend can now shut up how his Evo is soooooo much better than my Epic because it hbas Froyo (even after showing him my pics and videos look better, screen looks nicer, can play more vido formats natively) because that was the only thing he could point at. Now we're even.
If Gingerbread comes, it's not going to be for a while; otherwise, why would they have bothered releasing FroYo?
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It will feel horrible because it will be a buggy mess. Let them get Froyo sorted out before they begin to use this as a buggy base of their Gingerbread build. I do believe Samsung will deliver Gingerbread, but dont even think it will be before Summer 2011. I have nothing against Samsung really. They could do better with software support though. And you will find ridiculous skepticism among people at XDA for anything positive that is "supposed" to be coming from Samsung in the future.
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Don't confuse Samsung, LEAVE EB13 as it stands!!
Finish GB so we don't have to wait until 2.4 or 2.5 drops before we get 2.3!
I got gingerbread ota yesterday. I'm expecting ice cream next week!
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