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reboot loop

sometimes when i soft reset my mogul it goes into a sort of reboot loop, it will reset before loading the today screen
i have an app that lets me boot into a "safe mode" with all today plugins, autorun items and nonessential services disabled, however this too reboots (it resets before even loading the today screen, it resets at the wm6 splash screen)
any ideas? i suspect its some app i have installed, just seems weird that it would happen before anything else loads

When this happens, simply remove the SD card and the loop will stop.
Also, it seems that this has stopped if you have the most current ROM.

heh, i never even thought about pulling the SD card *kicks self*
ive been hesitent to get the latest rom because i dont want to reinstall all my apps and tweaks again, especially when i know ill have to do it for rev.A anyway, lol
thanks for the help, nice to see another chicagoan here (im in the south subs)

Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?

Those programs aren't really the cause...there have been reports of users who don't have them installed that had the reboot loop anyways. I have actually had the reboot loop after a hard reset with no installed programs and reg tweaks...

ScottC said:
Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
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no and no
havent had the problem again yet, so i havent been able to try the SD thing, but it makes sense since its happenening before autorun apps and services load

jamesus said:
Those programs aren't really the cause...
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I didn't say they were the cause, I was just trying to run past some programs that are known to cause these symptoms.
To flatout say that they are not the cause is just wrong. There is a combination of HTC home and the Audio manager that'll force the unit into a reboot loop you can't get out of.

So no one has found a cause for this? How would this even be feasible if you have startup programs installed on the SD card? I also wanted to put all mail downloads and attachments on the SD, but if I have to pull it out, WM6 creates a Storage Card folder and my actual SD becomes Storage Card 2. It's a pain to have to delete and rename and such especially considering how often the device has to be reset...

Althought the cause is not exactly known, it has been speculated to be a ROM issue. Since flashing to the latest ROM, I have not one reboot loop, and this has been for a few months now.

Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?

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Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?
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This was present in the 2.08 ROM and was fixed with the 2.09 ROM.

I installed the latest DCD rom no programs installed and it just keeps on looping sometimes it stops for a hr or two and than starts looping again

I tried re-installing the original sprint rom but the same thing keeps on hapening

Are you running Spb Pocket Plus? There are known issues by the developers regarding memory, battery, power meters in the Pocket Plus Today Plugin. For more info, go to Spb Club:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/index.php

I tried everything, I put back the original Sprint rom didn't help. I went back to sprint they tried, coudlln't fix it, I got a new Phone out of the box.
They still have radio 1.32 and Rom 2.09 the blutooth works excellent on this.

I've had to return 2 phones in the last 2 months. My first phone would just freeze up for no reason. I could use the phone for a couple of hours then it freezed. Well the couple of hours soon became a few minutes than only for about a minute. If I took the battery out for awhile then I could turn it on again for a few minutes. It was as if the battery or cpu was getting hot and then freezing up.
The next phone worked good for 2 days and then all of a sudden it just died at the sprint logo. It boots up and shows the rom version with the sprint logo than the rom text disappears and its stuck at the sprint logo. It won't boot any further. It will stay on the sprint logo and the backlight will even go off after a few minutes. Strange... I am about to take this phone back tomorrow.
So far I've had nothing but bad experience with the durability of these phones. Once I get it set up properly it dies... :-(

i got a mogul aswell, nvr happened to me sorry can't help..

I just installed DCD2.3.2-Telus (several times) along with Titan_Radio_3.27.0. At first it worked wonderfully. The second I install anything to do with the GPS though, the system goes into a reboot loop. Actually it even started doing it last night without installing any navigation software.
- Google Maps
- TomTom 6
- Live Search
^^ Those are the 3 I've tried so far and all three have lead into reboot loops. I just flash the ROM again and everything is okay (for a while).
I've also tried running dcd_titan_2.1.0_telus and got the same problem once I installed one of the above Apps.
Does WM6 create dump files like in Windows so I can figure out what the hell is causing this? I want my GPS to work!!!!
After the reboot loops start, I tried removing the SD card as mentionned but it did nothing. Keep in mind I installed the programs to my internal memory.
Update: After flashing the ROM again to 2.3.2, the second I insert my SD card that also triggers the reboot loop.
Update #2: With the stock Rom, it seems to be working fine again. I think it's a problem with the GPS chip itself?

After spending the last few days trying to figure this out, I said the heck with it and contacted HTC to see what they have to say. Will post their reply once I get it. Hopefully there is a fix, because I hate this!! Now, I can't set my Spb Backup to run on auto, otherwise I wake up to the splash screen again....and again.....and again! I get so angry as I wait anxiuosly to see the result, today screen or verizon, and then *buzz*, I'm going crazy!

I had the same problem as you with my XV-6800 using the stock ROM and it always would go into reboot mode unless I ejected the sd card first. I could only put the card back in after it booted up. I also removed two programs from the device's main memory (Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and a task switcher).
I'm currently running SPB mobile shell and SPB Pocket Plus (for the task manager) and it's working fine now.
The only thing I can suggest is to remove one program at a time and reboot to see if maybe there is software conflict

Occasional Freezing

Just wondering if anyone else out there has similar problems with the occasional Freeze on there HD2. Mine occurs maybe once every few days.
I am running Xanny's Evolution 1.4 but have had the problem with other roms.
Radio 2.0.8 with 576mb hack
Seems to be when I am coming out of file explorer (Other Apps as well) into the Sense Homescreen I get the freeze. Symptons
Title bar still shows previous app (eg, File Explorer)
Screen otherwise is 100% sense.
5% clock time change (Eg just starting)
Weather animation just starting.
I only have installed
DST Time Patch (Live in West Australia)
Core Player 1.3.6
TomTom
File Explorer Ext
Phone Log.
Radio still seems to be working. Eg pressing a button will light up buttons and they turn off after x seconds.
Ringing the phone doesn't send it to message bank. It just rings out. My phone does nothing to indicate incoming call.
First test was to flash a factory rom first (1.4.3). Froze about a day latter.
I then performed an MTTY. Again froze about 2 days latter.
Current test I have disabled weather animation. Has not crashed since. Been 5 days.

My HD2 freezes to, running LynxEX 1.3 WWE, radio 2.08.50. I installed the
Rom in 01.03.2010, everything was OK for a few days until yesterday when it started to froze more and more often.
Radio is working but I can not answer because the screen and buttons are not responding.

I am still going with out a freeze. Disabled weather animation and seems good. Will leave it another week.
Due to it seeming to be caused when redrawing the Sense homepage and multiple animations I took a punt.
When does yours freeze?

Welcome to windows mobile!
Its a common thing, no need to worry.
If you have apps installed on your SD card then try to end them normally i.e. from the app itself, if you use a task manager to kill it it may leave corrupted files on the SD card which may also freeze the phone.
Waiting for Android.........................

Mine never freezes!

Mine hangs 40% of the time after unlocking the screen.....
Official 1.66 ROM UK

It happends when I try to do something fast, after I unlock the screen, or use coreplayer. So i uninstaled coreplayer, until now it works !!! ???
Now i miss coreplayer and would try to skip the automat screen locker.

I am a long time Win mobile users.
Gone from Polaris, HD and now HD2
This freeze is quite specific. Just on the homepage.
Anyway, Its been a week now and still no freezes. Looks like it was a combination of multiple animations causing a conflict.
I get various other cases of it slowly grinding to a halt then responding very very slowly. Eg 30 secs for an unlock. Usually core player.
Also, no need to install to SD card. Heaps of room on internal.
It seemed to freeze when coming out of File Explorer. Might have been an issue introduced with the File Explorer Extension addon??

Mine freezes from time to time, but always on screen lock.
lock is unresponsive, do a reset (battery removal)
then sense only responds to the left portion of the screen, several resets later it will come back to normal.
anyone else seen this ?

Freeze
Mine also would freeze every once in awhile? I turned off weather for other cities, has not froze for, this is 3rd day? Wierd?

I've noticed a few 'freezes' on the 'unlock' screen as well. I think it has to do with the phone searching for a network; when it locks it was switching from
3G to H or to G.

Just to register another user with freeze issues. 1.66 Stock WWE Rom with whichever radio is bundled with it.
I haven't had an issue in the 4-5 weeks I've had the phone until I decided to give Twitter a go using the HTC Peep application. I then got 3 or 4 freezes in 24 hours. Uninstalled Peep from the Sense slide tabs and later on that day installed moTweets, again keeping it memory resident and automatically checking for tweets once an hour. It froze again last night.
Now I'm (fully) closing moTweets every time I've finished with it, and so far no freezes. It's only been 14-15 hours but we'll see.
Zef.

I keep getting problems myself on my TMOUS. The phone has frozen over 6 times in the past 2 days I've owned it. Its quite annoying. Everything is stock. No custom roms or anything. I've reset it to factory settings 3 times.

Might have tracked it down
Mine seems it may be related to File Explorer.
Coming out of or exiting file explorer. Also crashes if fire explorer is running and plug a usb cable in.
Running file explorer extensions. Might be the cause.

Mine started freezing for no apparent reason a few days ago.
Using a custom rom for months with no problems then all of a sudden freezes.
Tried some different roms and they all seem to do it now.
Only way is a hard reset for me, soft reset it freezes too.
Personally I'm thinking its a hardware fault seeing how it was a sudden occurance and doesnt matter which rom image is on there.
Unless its a radio problem, not tried changing that yet.

Was it while doing a certain thing?
Start taking note of what you were just doing then post. IT might help shed some light.
Mine was getting to twice a day. I then noted what was installed and changed my behaviour. And it started crashing less.
Also change the SD card. Noted a thread where the SD card is related to strange behaviour. Make sure the temp one gets a full format.
Best idea is to run your phone as minimally as possible (Software and app's for as long as possible. Slowly introduce behaviour and applications and note when it starts to become unstable.

Okay happened about 5 times today, each time it was while trying to recieve or make a call.
Text messaging is fine, internet sharing is fine, only while making calls
radio 2.06.51.07 i actually thought i had put 2.08 on a while back so going to change to 2.07 or 2.08 and see if that works.
updated to radio 2.07 and reflashed energy rom. dont hold out much luck.
seems to get stuck still on soft reset. so has to be hard reset everytime
oh and thats with no apps loaded

lets disable the whole phone... and cross ur fingers for someone out there who can save this phone from windows... period.. stop saying i disable this and it works better now. disable that and seems pretty good now, BS. u know is BS.. have all those problems.. i still dont understand how people still buying HD2!!!! omg... .

think i have found one of my problems
incompatable radio to rom image
or failing that trying the reformat Task 29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657113&highlight=soft+reset

ninja12innotts said:
think i have found one of my problems
incompatable radio to rom image
or failing that trying the reformat Task 29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657113&highlight=soft+reset
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lol.... whateva.

[Q] Android Completely shutting off?

I used to have a problem with the SOD until i changed to my current radio. My current problem is whenever i start up a fresh build of android, it always freezes during the set up screen. After i restart and boot up android again, its works like new for a couple of hours and then completely shuts off. I dont think its like the SOD, when i try to turn the screen on nothing, not even the buttons light up. After another reset, all my widgets and apps i have on the home screen are reset. Anyone know whats going on here? I am running Energy ROM and shubcraft 1.5 but it seems to do the same thing regardless of android build. Also i should mention this is after i formated my sd card.

[Q] Serious Touchscreen Lag Issue [UPDATED]

First of all, sorry if this thread is out of place, but I'm not sure where else to turn.
My HD2 worked terrifically with FroyoStone 3.2, Hastarin 7.6 up until last Wednesday (5 days) ago. Then I started to experience, and have not been able to fix, serious TS lag issues.
Symptoms: I hit the unlock button, swipe to unlock, and the touchscreen will be responsive if I KEEP using it...if I pause for up to 3 seconds, the screen is no longer responsive. I have to relock the phone, unlock, and then swipe again to get it to work.
The touchscreen works perfectly fine in Windows Mobile 6.5. (Energy 2361X)
Attempts to fix: I've formatted the SD Card inbetween trying all of the following items-
1) Switch to MDJ ROM with MDJ kernel
2) Switch to Bluetopia ROM (0.5, 0.6 & 0.6.1) with Hastarin 8.0 OR 8.1
3) Switch back to FroyoStone 3.2 with kernel that comes with it
4) Update Radio ROM
5) Update to new Energy WinMo ROM -- after running Task 29 first.
Today, I purchased a new SD Card, loaded it with a clean install of Android, still have issues.
Also tried:
1) Turning off all LED notifications
2) Disabling Auto brightness in WinMo and Android
3) Disabled Screen Auto-Rotate
Honestly, I'm all out of ideas, and I hope someone in the community has a way to help out. I find it so odd that the touchscreen works great right after a "wake-up" as long as I keep it constantly stimulated...then fails to respond if I let it sit for more than three seconds. Is this a polling issue?
All ideas are appreciated. Thank you
UPDATE:
Followed another thread that suggests using the exact same WinMo ROM as the Builder -- matched my ROM with cmylxgo's WinMo ROM (author of Bluetopia) after another Task 29...no fix.

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UPDATE 2:
Also tried 32K clusters and 64K clusters when formatting the card. Problem exists with either size.

There are G-Scripts to disable the G-Sensor and then re-enable it without rebooting.
If you want to jump to the extreme and want to remove all the sensors entirely.
Code:
su
rm -rf /system/lib/hw/*.sensors.so

Terminal
Thanks for your quick reply.
Unfortunately, I'm not the best with working with Linux/Terminal commands -- I tried typing in your code, and it returned that there was no such file/folder as -rf, and then I removed that section, and it said that it could not find the system/...
So obviously, there's something I'm missing, or an error in the syntax, that I cannot debug.
Any help is appreciated.

Are you having any data freezes or are you on an area with poor to no signal? I get really bad system lag when I loose signal while my phone is trying to download. Ppp will freeze and the phone will be unresponsive till reboot. Only way I avoid this is to turn off data if I got into a building I know I will loose connection in.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Updates
Thank you for your reply --
I checked into the disconnects being an issue by enabling Airplane Mode and seeing if I still had the same results, and unfortunately I do. I tried by disabling the Wifi and Mobile network separately, and still same issues.
But, here's an update on the issues:
Installed TYTUNG's NexusHD2-FRG83 V1.6, and this thing is very, very lightweight. Great battery life, great data (went to sleep, woke up, and not only was my phone still on...but I didn't have to reset data to check email...nice). The issues still remain. These are the newest things I've tried:
1) Remove Boxwave screen protector
2) Run from Airplane Mode.
I did however notice something really, really important: when the screen freezes, if I simulate a multi-touch gesture (pinch to zoom, etc), sometimes it wakes up! This is not a guaranteed thing (like 60%), but definitely something to work with.
Also, I noticed that one time that the touchscreen stopped responding, I tried the multitouch, no help...but I stayed on it. Multitouch tapped like crazy for a solid 6 seconds...then tried to shut the screen off -- and that button didn't respond. It was as if I saturated some bus of some sort that it had to clear out before it could finally shut the screen off.
Finally, I've noticed that the screen just needs to shut off for the touchscreen to unfreeze -- not go into a full lock situation. So, if the screen goes black, and I hit the lock key immediately, it'll unfreeze the TS.
Thanks to everyone who is trying to think of an idea!

i seem to be having the same issues as you right after i wake the phone up to unlock it. locking the phone is a habit for me to try and save as much battery as possible and also to not press any buttons while in my pocket.
im running a cyanogen rom and i changed the setting to allow me to unlock the phone by pressing the center windows key. i noticed that when the phone will not allow me to unlock it i can press the menu key and unlock it but i cannot use the touchscreen at all until i relock and unlock.
sometimes i have to do this a few times before the touchscreen comes back. i was thinking it could be my sd card but this started to happen today. i have been using android on my hd2 daily for the past 12 days without any problems. its weird that it started all of a sudden.

so it seems we still dont have a fix for the touchscreen freeze yet, right ?

Same problem here
Hi, I am experiencing the same problem.
Tried few versions of Android, The same problem repeated itself.
So I had to return to WM6.5 - there it works good. Only I have to reset the phone twice a day :-(
Hope someone will find brilliant solution for the sad problem that prevents using Android...

[Q] Sense big Problem and SD Card

I got the following very weird problem..
when i yesterday went out of a club i noticed that my phone was off even if my battery was abt 60 percent..(running android) well i wanted to turn it on agian - nothing.. battery in / out , on again...
but the little problem was that in Winmob Sense couldnt get activated anymore (homesettings etc.) it starts loading sense but the screen stays blanc... a soft reset didnt solve the problem, even 10 didnt..
when i then booted android again .. the boot took about 15 minutes EVERY time.. instead of the usual 1 minute..
i formatted SD card now.. still all the same...
what should i do?? Please help!!!!
is a hardreset the only thing that could help? and if... do i have to b aware of anything? i mean i changed my radio etc.? does is affect the hardreset?

Try rebooting your phone without the sd card in it, and if Sense doesn't load up after a couple minutes, but still says 'Launching HTC Sense' up top of the screen, try pressing your start button, and then exiting your start menu by pressing the 'X' button at the top right of your screen. I have installed apps/done modifications to Sense that caused Sense to behave like that before, and sometimes this helps. If that still doesn't help Sense to load, you may have to do a hard reset, but I seriously doubt it had anything to do with running Android.

whether i do a HR or installing a new rom makes no difference right?
well the thing is.. i didnt install any apps in the last few month u know..?
what the hack is that...