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Downgrading from .97 to .76 bootloader, what's the trick?

I am currently s-off via UnrEVOked. I want to go from .97 to .76 to get fastboot.
Is it as simple as flashing the file from recovery?
1) Do I need to clear cache/dalvik?
2) Do I need to re-flash the ROM/radio/PRI/NV?
3) Any other implications or dangers of doing this?
I'd appreciate any info.

If it fails to boot up after you downgrade, you'll probably have to reflash the ROM.

Noxious Ninja said:
If it fails to boot up after you downgrade, you'll probably have to reflash the ROM.
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1) What is the likelihood of my device not booting, based on what you have seen from people's actual experience?
2) If my device boots okay, then nothing else to worry about?
3) If my device does fail to boot, will I be able to boot into recovery? Will a nandroid restore suffice?
Thank you.

Not reflash the ROM, just the kernel should suffice.

InfectedMushroom said:
Not reflash the ROM, just the kernel should suffice.
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For my knowledge, why is flashing the kernel necessary at all? If HBoot is a different part of the phone (sort of like a bootstrap), shouldn't the OS/ROM/kernel/radio/etc. not be touched at all?
Thank you.

Snovvman-
Search for hboot in "EVO android development" section. I think Caulkin started that thread. It has the .76 hboot version with installation instructions. I would also recommend updating your recovery if you haven't already. I have AmonRA v2.2.1 with hboot .76 on my EVO. Amon's recovery has some cool features. Good luck dude.
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ElectronBlue said:
Snovvman-
Search for hboot in "EVO android development" section. I think Caulkin started that thread. It has the .76 hboot version with installation instructions. I would also recommend updating your recovery if you haven't already. I have AmonRA v2.2.1 with hboot .76 on my EVO. Amon's recovery has some cool features. Good luck dude.
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Thanks. I have the files from that thread (actually on my subscribed list), I actually have all the HBoot versions at the ready. I am currently using CW 2.6.0.1 for now and I like it okay. There are even a couple of threads to help people with 2.x Hboot to go back to .76. Reading through them, they just don't exactly apply to what I'm wanting to do. I'm simply gathering some data before diving in.
Edit: I started the thread because I have read in different places where either 1) no additional flash is needed, 2) must re-flash radio/PRI/NV/etc., 3) must reflash ROM, or 4) may need to reflash kernel.
I not only want to know what one actually must do, but why...

My experience with downgrading my hboot went like this. After I applied the 76 hboot and tried to boot up, it would loop me back to the boot loader. After I went to recovery through the boot loader I flashed a new rom and got out of the boot loader loop. If you downgrade, you WILL get in that loop unless the method has changed and you will have to reflash a kernel or the whole rom.

jxr94 said:
My experience with downgrading my hboot went like this. After I applied the 76 hboot and tried to boot up, it would loop me back to the boot loader. After I went to recovery through the boot loader I flashed a new rom and got out of the boot loader loop. If you downgrade, you WILL get in that loop unless the method has changed and you will have to reflash a kernel or the whole rom.
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Thanks. From what version did you downgrade? I presume the radio/PRI/etc. stayed intact?

There is a thread about this. Search!!
From what I can remember, the older hboot doesn't work properly with the newer nand chips, specifically those with 40000 byte erase blocks possibly present in rev 0004. Flashing an old hboot onto one of these results in a bricked evo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883548
ymmv

gpz1100 said:
There is a thread about this. Search!!
From what I can remember, the older hboot doesn't work properly with the newer nand chips, specifically those with 40000 byte erase blocks possibly present in rev 0004. Flashing an old hboot onto one of these results in a bricked evo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883548
ymmv
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Thanks. As I indicated in a previous post in this thread, I am aware of the post you cited, as well as another. They are actually both in my subscribed list. I have the 20K partition. I started this thread because those threads describe steps to go from 2.x Hboot to .76, not .97 to .76. I have yet to see a specific case where somone went from .97 to .76. I wanted to know if going from .97 would be less problematic than from 2.x.

I went from .97 to .76 with no problems other than the expected bootloop. I just reflashed my kernel and was good to go. No need to reflash the rom.

snovvman said:
Thanks. As I indicated in a previous post in this thread, I am aware of the post you cited, as well as another. They are actually both in my subscribed list. I have the 20K partition. I started this thread because those threads describe steps to go from 2.x Hboot to .76, not .97 to .76. I have yet to see a specific case where somone went from .97 to .76. I wanted to know if going from .97 would be less problematic than from 2.x.
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That used to be the only method of unlocking the NAND, you are safe. If you haven't done it yet then the best way to do it is through the bootloader though.

InfectedMushroom said:
I went from .97 to .76 with no problems other than the expected bootloop. I just reflashed my kernel and was good to go. No need to reflash the rom.
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Thank you.
xHausx said:
That used to be the only method of unlocking the NAND, you are safe. If you haven't done it yet then the best way to do it is through the bootloader though.
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xHausx: Do you mean to do that by renaming the .76 Hboot to PCIMG36 and boot into the bootloader to let it flash?
Again, just for my education, why is this better than flashing through recovery?
Cheers.

snovvman said:
xHausx: Do you mean to do that by renaming the .76 Hboot to PCIMG36 and boot into the bootloader to let it flash?
Again, just for my education, why is this better than flashing through recovery?
Cheers.
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You will need it packaged as a PC36IMG to work, I went ahead and attached one with it if you still need it.
As a rule of thumb flashing from the bootloader is always safer than from the recovery. Odds are if the bootloader can't flash properly your phone would already be a brick, so you know it will be good. Although with something like the bootloader the recovery may actually call on the bootloader to do the actual flashing but you never know.

xHausx said:
You will need it packaged as a PC36IMG to work, I went ahead and attached one with it if you still need it.
As a rule of thumb flashing from the bootloader is always safer than from the recovery. Odds are if the bootloader can't flash properly your phone would already be a brick, so you know it will be good. Although with something like the bootloader the recovery may actually call on the bootloader to do the actual flashing but you never know.
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Thank you for taking the time to make and upload the zip sir.

[Q] Rooted MT4G with grankin's gfree. Confused about needing bootloader.

Rooted with the "check this out even if" thread. Worked fine, found out that gfree doesn't root, but that visionary is what actually roots you when using it for teh second time after gfree turns radio security off. (had su denied in terminal a few times after gfree until I ran visionary and rebooted twice- it finally took)
So a big thanks to everyone.
The question is- at the end of the above thread, it says 0.85 bootloader is not necessary to flash a rom (i'm on royal ginger now so i know that), but that it would help avoid bricks in the future. Meanwhile, on the CM wiki for MT4G, it goes thru the abd rooting method, and it says that bootloader is not recommended.
Now, which is it? I don't want one of these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028615
where I read that there's people who flash one rom a single time like royalginger 1.6, then want to goto CM7.02 or vice versa, and that's all it takes to get in some boot loop. Now it might be that they're not wiping everything they should wipe, or wipe once instead of twice (which shouldnt be necessary), but it still makes you wonder.
Should I flash the 085 bootloader? Running fine on RG1.6, but may try CM 7.02 or RG2.0 when it's out of testing...
Thanks

acsi007 said:
The question is- at the end of the above thread, it says 0.85 bootloader is not necessary to flash a rom (i'm on royal ginger now so i know that), but that it would help avoid bricks in the future. Meanwhile, on the CM wiki for MT4G, it goes thru the abd rooting method, and it says that bootloader is not recommended
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The engineering bootloader is not required, but some of us do recommend it. IF you should have something go south you can flash recovery images, sections of the ROM, erase sections of the ROM, clear stuff. It helps if you should run into a problem. Their have been a few threads that people would of bricked their devices if they didn't have it.
The final choice is up to you. But if it were my phone i'd do it. If you are worried about the code you have to punch in to unlock it, just double and triple check it.

hmm... what is it specifically that i cant do if i don't flash the engineering bootloader?
my partial answer to my own question is that i cant use fastboot commands thru adb, right? but i dont fully know what the heck fastboot is anyway.
also, what about the pdimg15 thing? is that not possible to flash back to stock with pdimg15 if i dont have the 085 bootloader?
anything else i cant do without H085?

acsi007 said:
hmm... what is it specifically that i cant do if i don't flash the engineering bootloader?
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You cannot flash specific sections of the ROM if something should go south. You cannot flash recovery images via the HBoot, and you cannot flash splash images.
acsi007 said:
my partial answer to my own question is that i cant use fastboot commands thru adb, right? but i dont fully know what the heck fastboot is anyway.
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fastboot = hBoot = Engineering Screen.
Basically it what allows you to flash items via the Engineering screen. You cannot mount sections of the ROMs, nor can you clear stuff out if you should so choose.
acsi007 said:
also, what about the pdimg15 thing? is that not possible to flash back to stock with pdimg15 if i dont have the 085 bootloader?
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You can flash the PD15IMG via either recovery image. but it appears that if you use the 3.0.0.5, 3.0.0.6, or the 3.0.2.4 recovery image while trying to flash the PD15IMG (via the HBoot) it will brick your device. So that is not always a fail safe method.
basically the .85 HBoot a BIG tool to help you not brick your device.

thanks so far.. ok, im getting convinced. here's my reference for an eventuality where i'd need to rescue myself from some boot loop and reflash stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
so, in continuing to try to understand recoveries and boot screens here, i saw that after step three in the above thread, it says
"Some times at the end it will boot into fastboot rather then hboot. If this happens just scroll to bootloader and boot into it."
but then you wrote "fastboot = hBoot = Engineering Screen."
so why does the guide say "rather"? (indcating "does not equal")
second, you wrote
"You can flash the PD15IMG via either recovery image. but it appears that if you use the 3.0.0.5, 3.0.0.6, or the 3.0.2.4 recovery image while trying to flash the PD15IMG (via the HBoot) it will brick your device. So that is not always a fail safe method."
"either recovery image" -- you're referring to Clockwork Mod recovery and hboot?
And if you've seen that 3005 - 3024 may brick a PD15IMG flash, then what-- you dont go through Clockwork mod screen at all, you boot into hboot instead?
thanks for slogging thru this so i can get to my "aha!" moment....

acsi007 said:
thanks so far.. ok, im getting convinced. here's my reference for an eventuality where i'd need to rescue myself from some boot loop and reflash stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
so, in continuing to try to understand recoveries and boot screens here, i saw that after step three in the above thread, it says
"Some times at the end it will boot into fastboot rather then hboot. If this happens just scroll to bootloader and boot into it."
but then you wrote "fastboot = hBoot = Engineering Screen."
so why does the guide say "rather"? (indcating "does not equal")
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when we are talking about booting into Recovery, or the Engineering screen. Fastboot, hBoot, and Engineering screen are all pretty much one in the same. Just like some people call softdrinks, "pop", "soda", or "coke". It's terminology. the reason for the "Some times at the end it will boot into fastboot rather then hboot. If this happens just scroll to bootloader and boot into it." Is even though are in a "bootloader" screen the phone must pick up and recognize that you want to use fastboot. so sometimes, not typical though, you must select the "fastboot option".
acsi007 said:
second, you wrote
"You can flash the PD15IMG via either recovery image. but it appears that if you use the 3.0.0.5, 3.0.0.6, or the 3.0.2.4 recovery image while trying to flash the PD15IMG (via the HBoot) it will brick your device. So that is not always a fail safe method."
"either recovery image" -- you're referring to Clockwork Mod recovery and hboot?
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Correct there have been several threads popping up that are pointing to people have bricked their devices by flashing the PD15IMG in the Engineering screen but they are using the wrong recovery image. It always said something to the degree of "fail -PU". One guy was able to fix his by flashing the 2.5 recovery image from the Engineering screen then flashing the PD15IMG.
acsi007 said:
And if you've seen that 3005 - 3024 may brick a PD15IMG flash, then what-- you dont go through Clockwork mod screen at all, you boot into hboot instead?
thanks for slogging thru this so i can get to my "aha!" moment....
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Yes to flash the PD15IMG you need to be in the Engineering Screen. but from reading that other thread you need the 2.5 recovery image to do it.

neidlinger said:
Yes to flash the PD15IMG you need to be in the Engineering Screen. but from reading that other thread you need the 2.5 recovery image to do it.
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Wow- so I have to get rid of 3024 and flash cwm2545 (or whatever that exact number is) to use the pd15img that's so important to regaining control over a hypothetical borked flash?

acsi007 said:
Wow- so I have to get rid of 3024 and flash cwm2545 (or whatever that exact number is) to use the pd15img that's so important to regaining control over a hypothetical borked flash?
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i think we are on two different wave lengths.
one of the first Clockwork recoverys that came out where for 2.2 style ROMs, where store information in an EXT3 format. When Google released 2.3 we needed a new recovery image to flash the EXT4 design that the 2.3 ROMs bring. 3.0.0.5 will only handle 2.2 ROMs 3.0.0.6 and 3.0.2.4 will do both.
The problem lies in the fact that EXT3 and EXT4 ROMs store and handle information differently.
using the recovery image while trying to load the PD15IMG will cause the load to fail.
Now if you have the engineering screen loaded you can manually load the 2.5.1.4 recovery image via the Engineering screen then flash the PD15IMG and all should be good.
But this is only if you need to revert back to 100% stock.

we're not on 2 wavelengths, i'm just talking like an inebriated baby on no sleep!
thanks for the patience you display toward everyone, all the while having a guide which spells all this stuff out...
so the file system rules, and since 2.3's obvious big upgrade was the F/S, it borked previous recoveries.
so i'm on CWM3024, the latest, which i installed via rommanager, and it flashed it, and i nandroid backed up.
so im set for ext3 and ext4 incl pd15img, (which is ext3). right?
also, flashing pd15img- that reverts the bootloader from 085 to 086 again?

Um...neidlinger, fastboot and hboot are two totally different things. Keep in mind, I am not picking on you...
Appreciate your enthusiasm, but you are wrong a lot.

kmdub said:
Um...neidlinger, fastboot and hboot are two totally different things. Keep in mind, I am not picking on you...
Appreciate your enthusiasm, but you are wrong a lot.
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then i'm out....

Root no longer works

Hi
I used to have root on my HTC Magic, but I noticed that since I used System App Remover, my phone no longer has root and I experience random reboots and other times the phone just switches off. That's my fault - I should have made a backup, but for some reason I didn't at the time. Anyway. I've tried re-rooting; I've tried removing root and then re-rooting but nothing seems to work. I use Terminal Emulator to see if I have root. According to it, I don't have. However, when I use Universal Androot or some other app, it says I already have root, however, this is not the case, because when I reboot into recovery, nothing works. Whichever option I choose, the phone just reboots normally. Please help? I want to install a new Android 2.3.3 ROM :-/
Thanks in advance

Give some info about your device(from fastboot- back+power+).
What ROM you using now?

blaster44 said:
Give some info about your device(from fastboot- back+power+).
What ROM you using now?
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hboot - 1.76.0009
cpld - 12
radio - 6.35.08.29
Running FuzeBox Froyo 2.2. There's a thread of it around here, but that ROM's development was stopped a long time ago.
It happens when I reboot into recovery (haven't tried it in a while). Can't remember the combo but I can boot into Fastboot just fine. Issue comes in when I have to boot into recovery. I can see the options but when I click on them, the phone just reboots and loads the OS.

No one?

Security
Most importantly in Fastboot, do you have S-ON or S-OFF?
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No one?
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karym1969 said:
Most importantly in Fastboot, do you have S-ON or S-OFF?
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It's always been S-ON, even when I had root...

SPL S-ON
You will not be able to flash anything as long as you have Security-ON (perfected SPL).
Thus, you need to create a goldcard with S-OFF (Engineered SPL). Check this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
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It's always been S-ON, even when I had root...
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Let me ask the OP something real quick...
Why is it that you posted your QUESTION in the DEVELOPMENT section instead of the QUESTIONS & ANSWERS (General Q&A) section?
Rhetorical.
I'll move your QUESTION to the GENERAL Q&A section but the next thread that you create in the DEVELOPMENT section without any actual DEVELOPMENT will result in an immediate removal of your thread without warning!

karym1969 said:
You will not be able to flash anything as long as you have Security-ON (perfected SPL).
Thus, you need to create a goldcard with S-OFF (Engineered SPL). Check this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
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Not true. I flashed my current custom ROM and I had S-ON.

TheNiz said:
Not true. I flashed my current custom ROM and I had S-ON.
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You flashed your current custom rom... in recovery! Not fastboot. No custom roms are flashed via fastboot. Which is why s-off isn't needed usually.

tvall said:
You flashed your current custom rom... in recovery! Not fastboot. No custom roms are flashed via fastboot. Which is why s-off isn't needed usually.
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Yeah, I know.

Flashing
Flashing a rom is totally different than flashing a radio,spl, recovery from fastboot.
Having SPL S-ON will give you an error of "remote Fastboot not allowed".
Good Luck.
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Not true. I flashed my current custom ROM and I had S-ON.
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karym1969 said:
Flashing a rom is totally different than flashing a radio,spl, recovery from fastboot.
Having SPL S-ON will give you an error of "remote Fastboot not allowed".
Good Luck.
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I know, but I can't flash anything due to some other error I get when I enter fastboot. It doesn't say fastboot not allowed, but it game some other message that indicated I don't have permission to do so. Even if I were to flash a new radio/SPL, that won't allow me to flash a custom ROM, since the custom recovery fails.

Can someone please help me? I've tried everything. Nothing seems to work. I've tried various recoveries and none of them work. I can't flash anything, nor do any restores

[Q] I made silly mistake I know, but please help(if there's any hope)

I have a MT4G in which I unlocked the bootloader and tried to flash a custom ROM. Prior to that I did my level best to attain root by the available methods but could not achieve s-off. However the unlocked bootloader would not allow the custom ROM to boot and in my stupidity I did not make a nandroid before flashing. I am now stuck at the myTouch logo and thats it.
I tried to flash the stock roms but I keep getting mainver is older; update fail. I tried the 1.17.531.2 and the 2.19.531.1 but they both give me the same thing. Am I screwed or is there any hope for my phone?
Glacier PVT Ship S-ON
HBOOT-0.89.0007
MICROP 0429
RADIO 26.13.04.19_M
eMMC-boot
Dec 13 2011, 21:07:39

Did you use htc dev to unlock it? Relock it and follow the steps in the dev section. So you can go into bootloader? Push PD[whatever].img and the bootloader will detect it

I did relock it but it keeps giving me the mainver is older message and saying that update failed.

Solved! Thanks
finally i was able to find the right .img and flash that through fastboot and got a working phone again! thank you for your help!

Its such a horrible feeling when you are trying to get S-OFF and get stuck with a bootloop. I'm glad you figured it out.

You can flash any custom Rom, but before you do, unzip the Rom , and place the "boot.img" from the custom Rom, in your adb/fastboot folder, and flash it like you did to get it working again. I did it for awhile until I decided to relock & root properly.
**by the way..I hate the topic title! You are not stupid..you just made a MINOR mistake, which is the best tool you can use to learn by! I know how it is to be impatient, & just jump in and start flashing and not reading in advance. But its no biggie..
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jjbadd385 said:
You can flash any custom Rom, but before you do, unzip the Rom , and place the "boot.img" from the custom Rom, in your adb/fastboot folder, and flash it like you did to get it working again. I did it for awhile until I decided to relock & root properly.
**by the way..I hate the topic title! You are not stupid..you just made a MINOR mistake, which is the best tool you can use to learn by! I know how it is to be impatient, & just jump in and start flashing and not reading in advance. But its no biggie..
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
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now if i have relocked the bootloader can i unlock it again? What wuld the command to flash be? fastboot flash ???? boot.img?

If you have relocked it, there is a guide, just do a search for it, or I will in a lil bit, I'm in a meeting. But basically just go to the wiki section & follow the downgrade guide...then the Ultimate s-off guide. But make sure you have the files that are in the links within the guides b4 you start, put them in the proper place (adb/fastboot folder)
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Stuck at splash screen!

So this is my old phone and my friend tried to root it about a year ago and now it only gets stuck on the splash screen! I can get into hboot and flash boot mode but that's all I know how to do.
I have a Droid Razr and I've rooted and flashed it so I know about the process' but not for the MyTouch.
I've seen it makes a difference if I'm 32a or 32b so for reference I'm 32b. I'd just like to hopefully get it un-softbricked. And preferably without having to connect to a computer, but if need be I will ( I don't have a USB for this phone, but I can manage the micro-SD with my Razr.
Please help!!!

Boot into hboot and twll use phone info
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Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0006 (SAP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
MAY 27 2009, 19:06:41
I Hope the info u need is in there lol

Anyone?? Please

oliohh said:
Anyone?? Please
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are you able to boot into recovery (power+home at startup)

xanda143 said:
are you able to boot into recovery (power+home at startup)
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yes i am, it seems like stock recovery
says build:RAv1.2.16 at the bottom and HTC in the background
Edit: IM actually not sure if its stock lemme upload a pic for you...it has options for NANDROID restores and ****

Not stock that recovery
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What do you mean??

k flash a 32b kernel and see if it boots
actually google cronmod 1.6 and follow instructions

xanda143 said:
k flash a 32b kernel and see if it boots
actually google cronmod 1.6 and follow instructions
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I tried installing the kernel and it bootloops twice and then sends me back to recovery
and i was going to try the cronmod but from the recovery i have, i cannot wipe /system or /boot or dalvik...i dont wanna flash blindly cuz it doesnt seem like i have the right recovery.

Ok can I trust u to be smart? I'm gonna give u a free spl what this will do is make it so u can use fastboot and flash
1 the new amon ra 1.70g recovery
2the new radio 2.2.28.25 or something like that(its here google it)
3 the new spl that ezterry made for 32b it is 1.3.3.0d or smtn like that google it too. As a matter of fact find those files feom this forum k
Plz flash them in that order and make sure the files I tell u to download are good.
Ok here is the free spl.
Crap I can't upload from phone can I just give u the li k to the file download the earliest versuon that that is above your current hboot k
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
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xanda143 said:
Ok can I trust u to be smart? I'm gonna give u a free spl what this will do is make it so u can use fastboot and flash
1 the new amon ra 1.70g recovery
2the new radio 2.2.28.25 or something like that(its here google it)
3 the new spl that ezterry made for 32b it is 1.3.3.0d or smtn like that google it too. As a matter of fact find those files feom this forum k
Plz flash them in that order and make sure the files I tell u to download are good.
Ok here is the free spl.
Crap I can't upload from phone can I just give u the li k to the file download the earliest versuon that that is above your current hboot k
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
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i will give what your saying a shot...from what i understand i have to install this "spl" u speak of and then from there i install recovery and the rest seems like cake. i have to read that link you sent me cuz from the instructions on there i need a "goldcard" and the only way ive found to make a goldcard requires access to my device...which obivously i cant do cuz of the bootloop.
i will look further into that i guess

oliohh said:
i will give what your saying a shot...from what i understand i have to install this "spl" u speak of and then from there i install recovery and the rest seems like cake. i have to read that link you sent me cuz from the instructions on there i need a "goldcard" and the only way ive found to make a goldcard requires access to my device...which obivously i cant do cuz of the bootloop.
i will look further into that i guess
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lol it is cake kim on my pc now try and flash this file via recovery and u dont need a goldcard k
after u do that it will change you spl or hboot which can be found in system info after that you can flash the radio recovery and hboot i speak of
spl(actual file instead of link to post) flash the remove file first then the spl

xanda143 said:
lol it is cake kim on my pc now try and flash this file via recovery and u dont need a goldcard k
after u do that it will change you spl or hboot which can be found in system info after that you can flash the radio recovery and hboot i speak of
spl(actual file instead of link to post) flash the remove file first then the spl
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ok so i flashed those two items like u said and my hboot successfully changed...it is now 1.33.2010-----how do i flash the new recovery? this is what i have as far as the file. ive tried booting in hboot and nothing happens. changing to fastboot mode and nothing happens. flashing in recovery requires a zip and this file is an .img file. Im really sorry for all the questions this phone is much more complicated then my Razr and since im not the one who messed the phone up i dont have the slightest clue where to begin,

oliohh said:
ok so i flashed those two items like u said and my hboot successfully changed...it is now 1.33.2010-----how do i flash the new recovery? this is what i have as far as the file. ive tried booting in hboot and nothing happens. changing to fastboot mode and nothing happens. flashing in recovery requires a zip and this file is an .img file. Im really sorry for all the questions this phone is much more complicated then my Razr and since im not the one who messed the phone up i dont have the slightest clue where to begin,
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Well my boy since u said it flashed sucessfully the rest should now be cake.
I'm aasuming u have the android sdk on your computer with fastboot installed?
The next step now is to flash a new recovery which u already downloaded and how u do that is to put that .img file into your android sdk fastboot directory boot your phone into fastboot mode and open a command prompt in your fastboot directory and type these
Fastboot devices (to make sure its connected)
Fastboot flash recovery "name of your file"
If u have a sucess here u have flashed your new recovery and should be able to boot into it.
The next step now is to flash a new radio
AND THE LAST THING TO DO IS FLASH A SPL THAT CAN WORK WITH YOUR PHONE..
Post your info again the updated info.
ALTERNATIVLY TO ALL THAT DOWNLOAD A PROGRAM NAMED FASTBOOT COMMANDER BUT IT NEVER PICKS UP MY PHONE SO I DONT USE IT BUT IT MAKES ALL THAT EASIER...TRY IT
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xanda143 said:
Well my boy since u said it flashed sucessfully the rest should now be cake.
I'm aasuming u have the android sdk on your computer with fastboot installed?
The next step now is to flash a new recovery which u already downloaded and how u do that is to put that .img file into your android sdk fastboot directory boot your phone into fastboot mode and open a command prompt in your fastboot directory and type these
Fastboot devices (to make sure its connected)
Fastboot flash recovery "name of your file"
If u have a sucess here u have flashed your new recovery and should be able to boot into it.
The next step now is to flash a new radio
AND THE LAST THING TO DO IS FLASH A SPL THAT CAN WORK WITH YOUR PHONE..
Post your info again the updated info.
ALTERNATIVLY TO ALL THAT DOWNLOAD A PROGRAM NAMED FASTBOOT COMMANDER BUT IT NEVER PICKS UP MY PHONE SO I DONT USE IT BUT IT MAKES ALL THAT EASIER...TRY IT
Sent from my HTC Magic using xda premium
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I have successfully flashed the new recovery via the program you recommended. Currently searching for the radio you mentioned and then next would be the SPL. After all that will I have to flash a ROM as well?
Right now my phone info is:
Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013d (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.2.28.25
Oct 21 2009, 22:33:27
Edit: I have successfully flashed the new radio, updated my phone info to reflect. Currently figuring out the whole SPL thing, then my previous question of the custom ROM still applies lol
Edit #2: Successfully changed SPL i believe, updating phone info to reflect the change. Now im assuming i flash a ROM and i should be set???
Edit #3: I flashed that CronMod ROM you mentioned and when i boot, it sits on splash for like 10 secs and then reboots and its a continious loop. Im assuming that is probably just a bad flash? Im not used to AmonRa recovery. Is CWM still supported??

oliohh said:
I have successfully flashed the new recovery via the program you recommended. Currently searching for the radio you mentioned and then next would be the SPL. After all that will I have to flash a ROM as well?
Right now my phone info is:
Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013d (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.2.28.25
Oct 21 2009, 22:33:27
Edit: I have successfully flashed the new radio, updated my phone info to reflect. Currently figuring out the whole SPL thing, then my previous question of the custom ROM still applies lol
Edit #2: Successfully changed SPL i believe, updating phone info to reflect the change. Now im assuming i flash a ROM and i should be set???
Edit #3: I flashed that CronMod ROM you mentioned and when i boot, it sits on splash for like 10 secs and then reboots and its a continious loop. Im assuming that is probably just a bad flash? Im not used to AmonRa recovery. Is CWM still supported??
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ok now u are all good keep useing the amon ra ok ill upload a file flash it then flash cronmod 1.6 and thw anykernel in his post
matter of fact ill upload a kernel for u to flash. flash the superswwipe file first k

xanda143 said:
ok now u are all good keep useing the amon ra ok ill upload a file flash it then flash cronmod 1.6 and thw anykernel in his post
matter of fact ill upload a kernel for u to flash. flash the superswwipe file first k
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You have been MORE than extremely helpful! My phone is now working again! I appreciate so much everything that you told me and taking the time to give me the files needed! Thank you so much for your effort!!

oliohh said:
You have been MORE than extremely helpful! My phone is now working again! I appreciate so much everything that you told me and taking the time to give me the files needed! Thank you so much for your effort!!
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All worth it to help and see your phone up and well:thumbup::thumbup:
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