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Should I get a N1 still?

So here's the deal:
I'm on AT&T, been using an Aria with CM 7 RC for awhile now. I had the Atrix 4g, but after some issues with data connection and figuring "better safe than sorry" when it came to the bootloader situation, I decided it just wasn't meant to be. Now I'm wanting something a little more after the atrix vs my Aria, but I'm still on AT&T for now (family plan), and am hesitant to extend my contract (Inspire is too big anyway)
So my question to you, users of the original Google phone: is it still worth it?
I figure I can buy a nexus one on ebay for ~$400 for AT&T's bands, and sell it again (or keep it because it's so cool) when its time for a new contract. Is it worth getting the N1 at this point or is it getting too heavily outclassed, even with development and the latest software, or is it still kicking strong and will last me until at least some quad-core LTE super nexus 3 comes out?
Thanks for hearing my rant and for letting me know!

Its lasted us this long so no reason why you wont still enjoy it too...

Keep an eye on the Marketplace forum here. You'll get a good N1 for less than $400.
They are still worth buying if you can get a bargain.

As the seasons change and I'm outside more and the sky is often brighter. The fact that the N1 screen isalmost impossible to see outside is really annoying. Unless you never go outside I'd say stay away from the N1.
Also, the touch screen is awful. Every game must have their touch controls in odd places for them to actually work on the N1. Really makes it feel like a crappy device.
I really do like my N1, but these things were reasons I probably should have returned it over a year ago. No way I'd recommend someone get it now.
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At $400, I wouldn't. Quick craigslist search shows several around the country at $200-$250. For that price I would, and if any were in my own backyard, I would probably grab a second one.

Yes its a nice phone. No I would not spend 400 for it now. Aria is a nice phone. Inspire is best deal at this moment. I don't see why u pick up a N1. U get custom roms on aria. If you want new device get a tablet. HTC flyer is on its way or Samsung tab will be out soon.
But don't get me wrong. I love my N1. It's just that their is nothing that interest me at this time. Maybe gte t-mobile g2x. It will be compatible with ATT and its dual core. The best part vanilla android. I wait though and see how it reviews.
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First, I LOVE my N1. I run the CM7 nightlies on it, I use Titanium Backup to yank core sys apps from the nightlies that I don't care about. I've got 155 apps on it (thanks to Apps2SD) and SetCPU is running the clock at just a little over stock speed.
And I get to do all that with hardly the hassle others complain of with their non-N1 phones.
The N1 will continue to hold the hearts of Devs for as long as there's nothing with better specs that's as open and easy to work with.
Yes, get an N1, but you can do better than $400 (unless that's including a car or desk dock). If/When Google comes out with a 'real' successor (sorry, a rebadged Galaxy-S isn't a true successor) just sell off the N1 and upgrade.

The N1 is no longer top in class. If you want a pure android feeling, the N1 I'd recommend. But if you want better, then I'm guessing go for the Nexus S... does the Ns have an Att version?
The best thing about N1 is that the OS is android, not some mesh of other bloatware and junk provided by the manufacture HTC, Motorola, and the service provider ATT, Verizon... Of course, you can root, and put on a custom rom, and that's all resolved anyway.
Just my opinion.

I'm going to have to go with yes.
If I lost or broke my N1 today, I would, without hesitation, start the hunt to buy a new one. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T so finding an AT&T 3G N1 isn't as simple as buying it from the Google Developer site, but I would probably snag one off feeBay.

I'd have to go with no...unless you can get it for 200-250. While it is a nice phone and holds well against these beasts nowadays I can't justify a purchase due to the lack of internal memory and the horrid "multi-touch" panel. I too am waiting for a true nexus successor (Nexus S? yea okay.) and hopefully I won't have to wait long but there are nice phones on AT&T running android so im sure the inspire would be a better pick...or hold out for a few more months for whatever monsters are announced following Google I/O

i still love my nexus one to death, and still cannot find anything on the market now that i consider better than the nexus one simply because of the whole package, color trackball, design and build quality and materials, etc. so i say you should go for the nexus one.

No. It's an awesome phone, but as others have said, it's not worth $400 a year after it's out.

I just bought one on Craigslist for 240

Good phone
I still consider a good phone at this moment and with a good price.

Just sold mine for $350 on Craigslist.
Figured that, since T-mobiles 1700 3g radio frequency is eventually going to be changed to Att LTE and the T-mobile Nexus One completely wont work once that happens, that every day I keep it is another day that the value will go down. Thought I better get out now and lock in my profit before others figure this out and start to flood Craigslist with cheaper prices.
hate. Hate. HATE to give up my $30 EvenMorePlus and $10 web2go but I'm not going to stay aboard a sinking ship and there are other options still out there for my price range of $40/month or less for a smartphone. I simply REFUSE to pay $60 - 70 per month purely on principle

Droid (over) Charge postpones EOL for Fascinate

The outrageous price of the Droid Charge ($299 for those of you who haven't been following) will likely extend the life of the Fascinate (in terms of developer and user support), IMHO. Those who haven't either added the Thunderbolt to their arsenal (Adrynalyne, ThatDudeButch, etc.) or jumped ship altogether will likely find the price point for the Droid Charge to be rather prohibitive (again, just my opinion). Is 4G a must-have? The Thunderbolt is $50 cheaper on a 2-year contract. Don’t want to give up your Super AMOLED screen? I recommend waiting for the Galaxy S II (There WILL eventually be a CDMA version for Verizon).
Here's a quick comparison: With the Galaxy S II, you...
...Get the same screen upgrades as the Charge (Super AMOLED Plus, 4.3 inches)
...Add another cpu core, bump both cores up to 1.2 GHz
...Nearly triple your RAM (328MB for the Charge, 1024MB for the S II)
...Upgrade your software to Gingerbread (the Charge comes with Froyo out of the box)
... Last, but not least, upgrade to TouchWiz 4.0 (the Charge has 3.0 - I'm sure you're all here on XDA because you LOVE stock TouchWiz ).
Meanwhile, just enjoy your Fascinate (you probably have to wait a few months before you're upgrade eligible, anyway - the S II will probably be out by then).
Anyone have a different opinion? Does anyone feel compelled to get your Charge on now? (you still have to wait as of May 6 thanks to Verizon's LTE problems pushing back the Charge's release date - sound familiar, Thunderbolt owners?) Do tell...
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Getting the charge
well I would agree the charge is hardly an upgrade and I normally would wait untill the galaxy S II comes out BUT as someone who works directly on the sales floor with verizon, I can see the 4g data being either tiered or capped soon(MY PERSONAL OPINION). so to answer your question yes I will happily pay 300 bucks for my droid charge just to ensure I will be able to keep my unlimited plan while on 4g as well and then upgrade to galaxy s II when it comes....just my two cents

Fascinates are free at Best Buy on Fridays & Saturdays (with a 2 year contact, of course...)
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jmcintire said:
Is 4G a must-have? The Thunderbolt is $50 cheaper on a 2-year contract.
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You'd be a fool to pay $50 less for a Thunderbolt. $100+ maybe. $50 about covers the spare battery you'll need to carry around all the time if you ever use LTE.
The anti-Charge FUD in this group is pretty sad and fear-driven. You have it totally backwards: the continuing release of Charge ROMs by Samsung guarantees a probably-backportable source of Android updates for the Fascinate. Embrace the Charge.

You left out "Dump vzw for another carrier" from your poll.
good day.

chopper the dog said:
You left out "Dump vzw for another carrier" from your poll.
good day.
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This! I'm seriously contemplating going to AT&T myself

cpark_12 said:
This! I'm seriously contemplating going to AT&T myself
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Be prepared for the 2 gig cap on your data plan
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I really have a dilemma...
I cracked the screen on my fascinate last month... It still works perfectly, but I hate looking at the spiderweb on my screen.
I can put an insurance claim in and for $100 get a new Fascinate... or
Im due for an upgrade... So, I can simply get a free Fascinate now, but that locks me in for 2 years... or
stick with the current (Broken Fascinate) for a few months.
By then, Im hoping there will be other 4G phones to choose from and they wont have capped the plan by then.
Decisions. Decisions.

This is kind of a silly poll, as it leaves out some major releases. The Charge and the Thunderbolt are not the only new Spring phones for Verizon. The Droid X2, the Xperia Play, and the LG Revolution will all be out by the end this month.

I will wait another year for Quad Core phone

It doesn't matter what any of these prices are.
If you wait, you'll find a free deal.
This is why I won't upgraded until the holidays.
(this is how I got two fascinates for myself and my wife, Best Buy's free phone friday's last october)

rushfanx1 said:
I really have a dilemma...
I cracked the screen on my fascinate last month... It still works perfectly, but I hate looking at the spiderweb on my screen.
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I'd do the other option you didn't name, just fix the one you got. Changing the screen out isn't that hard and will run you less than a new phone. Ebay has the parts as do other sites.

Protonus said:
I'd do the other option you didn't name, just fix the one you got. Changing the screen out isn't that hard and will run you less than a new phone. Ebay has the parts as do other sites.
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http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Samsung-Fascinate-SCH-i500-s/6505.htm

rushfanx1 said:
I really have a dilemma...
I cracked the screen on my fascinate last month... It still works perfectly, but I hate looking at the spiderweb on my screen.
I can put an insurance claim in and for $100 get a new Fascinate... or
Im due for an upgrade... So, I can simply get a free Fascinate now, but that locks me in for 2 years... or
stick with the current (Broken Fascinate) for a few months.
By then, Im hoping there will be other 4G phones to choose from and they wont have capped the plan by then.
Decisions. Decisions.
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I bet you could get a "factory refurb" Fascinate for less. Last I saw it was on vzw.com for $39 (with contract, but I can't believe you wouldn't be able to work out a deal on this angle).

Protonus said:
I'd do the other option you didn't name, just fix the one you got. Changing the screen out isn't that hard and will run you less than a new phone. Ebay has the parts as do other sites.
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I thought about that, but I think its more than just the glass cracking... I actually had done some research and when I saw that I would need a heat gun, i said forget it
I just put my claim in with Assurion. For $100, i get a brand new phone... Being that I got the original for free from Best buy back in Oct, the $100 isnt bad... And, I still have my upgrade.. So, in 3 or 4 months, I'll upgrade to the best 4G phone and give the fascinate to my wife or kid.

rushfanx1 said:
I really have a dilemma...
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The LG Revolution will be out soon... granted, it doesn't have AMOLED, but it will have 4G
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mkzbdroid said:
well I would agree the charge is hardly an upgrade and I normally would wait untill the galaxy S II comes out BUT as someone who works directly on the sales floor with verizon, I can see the 4g data being either tiered or capped soon(MY PERSONAL OPINION). so to answer your question yes I will happily pay 300 bucks for my droid charge just to ensure I will be able to keep my unlimited plan while on 4g as well and then upgrade to galaxy s II when it comes....just my two cents
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The LG Revolution 4G phone is expected to be released May 12, according to www.phonearena.com. I don’t know what Verizon will charge for it, though. If it's $200, it may be worth giving up the AMOLED screen (personally, the AMOLED screen is a must-have for me).
By the way, the Charge is $50 cheaper at Wirefly on contract (if you aren't upgrade eligible and you're looking at paying the unsubsidized price, go to Verizon directly - Wirefly charges $100 extra for off-contract)
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s44 said:
You'd be a fool to pay $50 less for a Thunderbolt. $100+ maybe. $50 about covers the spare battery you'll need to carry around all the time if you ever use LTE.
The anti-Charge FUD in this group is pretty sad and fear-driven. You have it totally backwards: the continuing release of Charge ROMs by Samsung guarantees a probably-backportable source of Android updates for the Fascinate. Embrace the Charge.
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True, but we don’t know how bad the battery might be on the Charge (it might be called the Droid Recharge if you have to charge it too often )
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jmcintire said:
True, but we don’t know how bad the battery might be on the Charge (it might be called the Droid Recharge if you have to charge it too often )
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Check the Engadget review (and others). Battery life is actually good, even on LTE.
If the Revolution really does come out in a week, and Verizon doesn't kill unlimited by then, it may be a good choice. Thunderbolt isn't unless it's at a big discount.

s44 said:
Check the Engadget review (and others). Battery life is actually good, even on LTE.
If the Revolution really does come out in a week, and Verizon doesn't kill unlimited by then, it may be a good choice. Thunderbolt isn't unless it's at a big discount.
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Yeah... a good choice depending on how much they charge for it... the Revolution got a pretty good review at Phone Arena. It may be the split-the-difference choice - hopefully cheaper than the Charge, longer battery life than the Thunderbolt.
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Nexus S 4G or wait for Galaxy Nexus?

I'm on Sprint and ready to upgrade my Hero. The problem though is that the Hero has left me very hesitant to buy a phone with a custom skin, and I will not spend my money on a non-stock Android phone. Is the Nexus S 4G still a good phone compared to current dual core phones or should I just wait until Sprint gets the Galaxy Nexus?

I went from the hero to the NS4G when they had them for $30 after rebate and such, and I don't regret it at all. Even running stock it blows the hero away. Could that perception change over the next 2 years? Sure, but after dealing with the hero being pretty inadequate from the get go I doubt that it will be anything I can't deal with. The only complaint i have found is that the external speaker volume is about half of the hero. I can't pay ~$200+ for a phone any more.
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Depends on the amount of money you want to spend. The NS4G is a fine phone and I enjoy it and like dpeeps the only complaint I would have is the speaker on it. I like to listen to podcast on my phone, when I'm at home I still listen to em on the Hero, I pretty much use the Hero it as a iPod/MP3Player type device now.
I had to make this same decision back in August and am so happy that I did. There will always be faster, prettier, better...etc. phones coming out so you just have to accept that. I haven't ran into 1 problem yet with my Nexus and I'm not leaving Sprint so for me it's the best phone they had and still have available. I'll upgrade once they get their LTE system in place and phones to work on it.

Good to hear that it is still a very capable phone! I was planning on buying it used off of Craigslist or eBay so that I can save my upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus, if Sprint gets it. I remember when the NS4G came out that a lot of people were complaining about the reception on it and I was wondering if it had ever gotten fixed or if it was ever a real problem to begin with.

Quad Core phones should be coming by springtime. LTE or not, that's what I'm waiting to jump on
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I also have a Hero and I'm ready to upgrade. I'll also be getting a Nexus S, but I'm waiting until Friday because it's going to be free! I can't post links because I lurk a lot, but if you check out phandroid's Hero news (or sprintfeed.com, where they got the article from), Sprint is giving away Nexus S' on Black Friday.

kurtosterhage said:
Good to hear that it is still a very capable phone! I was planning on buying it used off of Craigslist or eBay so that I can save my upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus, if Sprint gets it. I remember when the NS4G came out that a lot of people were complaining about the reception on it and I was wondering if it had ever gotten fixed or if it was ever a real problem to begin with.
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Seems for some people it really was an issue, supposedly a update fixed it, I was one of the ones that never had any reception issue so can't say.

ns4g is already really outdated in todays mobile market
spending a few hundred bucks for a phone your going to use for maybe a month or 2 seems a little ridiculous.
you should save the money.
and if i were you i wouldnt wait for the galaxy nexus on sprint, i would jump ship to another carrier like im planning on doing. (with sprint for 9 years now)
sprint reception is getting worse and worse, their data speeds are getting slower and slower
just yesterday we had major problems, couldnt make or recieve calls or send texts.
i would highly consider switching carriers.
that being said if you want to stay on sprint the epic touch is a really amazing phone, held back by its carrier.
good luck

Outdated is probably a stretch. The phone is more than capable of handling anything a dual core phone can handle. I'm sure there's some few exceptions, but spending a few hundred bucks on anything that's as disposable as a mobile phone these days isn't too bright. Wait a couple months and they all become exponentially cheaper on some sale or rebate.
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Well do you like huge phones?? The Galaxy Nexus is HUGE...Well if you absolutely need a new phone just now then get a Nexus S 4g. If you can wait a few months to see what comes out then the Galaxy Nexus will probably be worth the wait....

I was thinking about getting a nexus s too. But, does it bother anybody that it doesn't have a notification LED? I hadn't heard about the speakers.
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Nexus is free all weekend plus u also get $25 in free new Google wallet.
So not bad for a newer phone.
And yes of course u still have to pay taxes and activation
But
It's unavoidable in any new phone purchase
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bigmoneygrip23 said:
I was thinking about getting a nexus s too. But, does it bother anybody that it doesn't have a notification LED? I hadn't heard about the speakers.
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Most of the kernels include a mod called BLN that allows you to turn on/blink the capacitive buttons on notification. The LED light is a little more obvious but it I've gotten used to it.
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Well I'm getting the Nexus S soon. It may be outdated but it still is a great phone considering that it is free until Monday but I really just want a phone that will get the latest Android updates wether its official or not. Galaxy Nexus is also great but no one knows when Sprint will get it or its price.

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I was planning on buying it used off of Craigslist or eBay so that I can save my upgrade
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How does this allow you to save your upgrade? Will Sprint do an ESN swap from the Hero onto the Nexus and keep you on your existing contract? I too am interested in saving my upgrade until the new LTE network is in place, but would love a new(er) phone in the meantime.
sleepy

sleepyEDB said:
How does this allow you to save your upgrade? Will Sprint do an ESN swap from the Hero onto the Nexus and keep you on your existing contract? I too am interested in saving my upgrade until the new LTE network is in place, but would love a new(er) phone in the meantime.
sleepy
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Sprint makes it easy to swap really... Just log into the sprint website and find the option in there. It asks for the numbers located on the back of the phone under the battery and then transfers your service to the new phone. Your old one should still have a clean ESN and be good to sell. My family has gone the eBay route a few times now to save our upgrades.
And really to anyone talking about only going for pure stock Android phones or waiting for the galaxy nexus, your missing out lol... Take 5 minutes on a 1ghz phone with Sense and you'll be hooked. The Hero just didn't have the power to handle it. And the Galaxy Nexus is really kind of a letdown tbh. In literally 3 months we'll see 2+ ghz quadcores and higher than 8 megapixel cameras as a bonus. And 4.0 ICS will be all over the place by then
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rubyknight said:
Sprint makes it easy to swap really... Just log into the sprint website and find the option in there. It asks for the numbers located on the back of the phone under the battery and then transfers your service to the new phone. Your old one should still have a clean ESN and be good to sell. My family has gone the eBay route a few times now to save our upgrades.
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Nice, thanks for the info. I did an ESN swap once before with Sprint when I bought a phone from wirefly.com, but that was with an upgrade. I didn't realize they'd allow it while still under contract.
sleepy

Thanks for all of the advice on the NS4G. I decided to go with the E4GT after using my brother's phone over Thanksgiving break. It will suit my needs just fine for the next two years.

rubyknight said:
Sprint makes it easy to swap really... Just log into the sprint website and find the option in there. It asks for the numbers located on the back of the phone under the battery and then transfers your service to the new phone. Your old one should still have a clean ESN and be good to sell. My family has gone the eBay route a few times now to save our upgrades.
And really to anyone talking about only going for pure stock Android phones or waiting for the galaxy nexus, your missing out lol... Take 5 minutes on a 1ghz phone with Sense and you'll be hooked. The Hero just didn't have the power to handle it. And the Galaxy Nexus is really kind of a letdown tbh. In literally 3 months we'll see 2+ ghz quadcores and higher than 8 megapixel cameras as a bonus. And 4.0 ICS will be all over the place by then
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Per chance do you know if this works with the old non-premium data plans? If I swap ESNs will they want to charge me the $10 a month "premium data" plan for a smartphone? I'm boycotting upgrading until this goes away. I mean my heroc does everything I need and we've almost got ICS there, I don't see a reason to upgrade. (Yes armv7/front camera/dual core/soon to be LTE would be nice but those aren't "necessities" imo)

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Per chance do you know if this works with the old non-premium data plans? If I swap ESNs will they want to charge me the $10 a month "premium data" plan for a smartphone? I'm boycotting upgrading until this goes away. I mean my heroc does everything I need and we've almost got ICS there, I don't see a reason to upgrade. (Yes armv7/front camera/dual core/soon to be LTE would be nice but those aren't "necessities" imo)
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The $10 fee is just for any data plan now I think, and its here to stay There isn't a loophole there though I don't think. If you switch to a 4G phone they'll probably slap it on there.
I just bought my Nexus S off of Ebay lol, so ill find out next week. The touchscreen on my Hero is starting to cut out and I still wanna save my upgrade
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Moving from Sprint (HTC Evo 4G) to Verizon (Motorola Droid Razr Maxx)

I've been with Sprint for over 10 years, the last 2 of which I've had an HTC Evo 4G (rooted). I'm looking to switch over to Verizon in the next week or so and I'm leaning towards the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx (unless someone has a better suggestion for a top-of-the-line Android offering). I'm looking for some advice/suggestions on how to make the switch - I have Titanium Backups for all of my apps - is it possible to restore these on the Droid Razr Maxx if I root this too? Also, I'm very used to HTC Sense on the Evo 4G - how will this impact the switchover, and is it possible to flash a Sense ROM on this new Verizon phone? Sorry if any of these questions are dumb, I've been stuck in the Sprint world for so long, I don't know what's going on outside of it. Just looking for some tips from people who've made the switch.
Thanks for any help in advance!

I would suggest the Samsung Galaxy S3 as a better phone. You'll find a lot more rom's for it as well, in fact there's already a Sense port for the international version of the S3.
Do you use Google Voice? That will be a big change as there's no native integration like with Sprint. Your apps should restore just fine.

i would also suggest the gs3 or something that is closer to the evo lte (im still a little bit of an htc fanboy tho i do admit im waiting on a gs3 to come my way). if you do use voice integration verizon doesnt have (and i dont think they will at least not with out some market influence of lots of people using it, the only other carrier rumored to be getting it is att) but if not then no biggie for ya

Motorola Droid Razr Maxx screen is ugly...THe evo 4g original has better picture quality IMO...However, Verizon network smokes SPrint anyday..

Thanks, I've heard of both the Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Motorola Droid Razr HD as upcoming Verizon smartphones, potentially worth waiting for. However, release dates for both haven't been released yet, correct? I need a new phone/contract within the next two weeks, so I don't know if these will be an option for me.

want to use my htc evo in pakistan on a network
can any one tell me how can i use my cellphone on my country,s network ??thr r only 2 cdma network connection available in my country what will i need ???

dajoip I would recommend you go play with it in person...my bro in law has the moto razor max. The screen is just ugly when compared to the smooth colorful screen of the EVO...I would def wait or just get the samsung its screen is a lot nice looking.

I'd be willing to wait, if I had a better idea of when either of these phones were going to be released...are there any indications? I checked out the Maxx last night, and while I love the idea of it's ridiculous battery, I wasn't all that excited about the phone itself...

I just spoke with a Verizon rep, they told me it was confirmed that the Samsung Galaxy S3 would be shipping on July 10th.

You see the droid incredible 4g? That is much better then the razor. Much better screen as the maxx has an ugly screen Imo. The battery is not as good as the maxx but it's really good. Sense 4.0 too.

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You see the droid incredible 4g? That is much better then the razor. Much better screen as the maxx has an ugly screen Imo. The battery is not as good as the maxx but it's really good. Sense 4.0 too.
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What makes it much better than the Maxx? I don't see too many negatives with the Maxx, and if it truly has double the battery, I think that's a huge positive...coming from the Evo for the last two years (and that being HTC), I'm skeptical of a smartphone with that small of a battery now - the battery life on it was absolutely atrocious! I'm actually hoping to wait for the Droid Razr HD to be announced/released.

dajoip said:
I've been with Sprint for over 10 years, the last 2 of which I've had an HTC Evo 4G (rooted). I'm looking to switch over to Verizon in the next week or so and I'm leaning towards the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx (unless someone has a better suggestion for a top-of-the-line Android offering). I'm looking for some advice/suggestions on how to make the switch - I have Titanium Backups for all of my apps - is it possible to restore these on the Droid Razr Maxx if I root this too? Also, I'm very used to HTC Sense on the Evo 4G - how will this impact the switchover, and is it possible to flash a Sense ROM on this new Verizon phone? Sorry if any of these questions are dumb, I've been stuck in the Sprint world for so long, I don't know what's going on outside of it. Just looking for some tips from people who've made the switch.
Thanks for any help in advance!
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I've thought about going to Verizon but there phone selection is very sparse. They also recently jack-up their prices on smart-phone contracts.

It's not necessarily "jacked up" - I'll be on a family plan and it's actually the same price with their new prices but we'll have more minutes/data with the new structure.

Verizon is accepting pre-orders of the Samsung Galaxy S3, however they are not carrying it in store as of yet. Pricing I think is $199 for 16GB and $250 for 32GB. You can look up videos of the GS3 to see if you like it. If I had to choose, I would go with it as it is the latest phone they are offering. If anything, if you don't like it (it does look like its a huge phone), just return it within the return window. Or you could keep it until something else comes along, sell it and use the money towards purchasing whatever else comes out.

Or you could wait for the HTC Phablet that its supposed to come out for Verizon.
"Rumors" Don't know how solid that is.
My wife has the Razr Maxx and doesn't have any complaints other then not having ICS 4.0 yet, she charges the phone every 2 days no need for extended battery's.

Motorola + VZW + root = FAIL, the photon on sprint is a pain in the ass to unlock and sprint isn't as strict as VZW with locking bootloaders. Every device on VZW with the exception of the galaxy nexus is a pain to root. VZW didn't get a gs2 model because Samsung refused to lock up the bootloader and VZW doesn't want people rooting their devices. The only reason the nexus isn't locked up tight is because of its reputation as a developers device, and the fact Google made them sign an agreement to get the rights to have the nexus exclusively for a few months before it was released on other US carriers. Sure VZW has fast speeds, they also have capped data and prices that should be considered robbery, they might as well make you pay your bill at gunpoint. Sure, it looks comparable when you're shopping around, until you get your bill and the extra $50-80 in fees and taxes are added in. My mom is on VZW with a family plan, 4 lines, no smartphones, no data plan, unlimited minutes and text and her bill is over $300 a month. It was just around $200 when she was shopping around then after they added $85 in taxes, surcharges and fees it went up to just over $300 and their customer service is outright ****, they don't give a damn about the customers, just the customers money. They will tell you whatever they think you want to hear to get you to sign up, even if it is an outright, bold faced lie.
We are legion, for we are many.

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It's not necessarily "jacked up" - I'll be on a family plan and it's actually the same price with their new prices but we'll have more minutes/data with the new structure.
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actually, you will be sharing less data across numerous devices while paying a monthly access charge per device. Look very closely at the contracts and pricing, it is not a good deal and a trend I hope is not followed by other carriers.

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actually, you will be sharing less data across numerous devices while paying a monthly access charge per device. Look very closely at the contracts and pricing, it is not a good deal and a trend I hope is not followed by other carriers.
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Um, well I'm glad you seem to know more about my situation than I do, but I actually have looked through it, I know how much data will be shared within the plan (which is more), and I already have a quoted price and it's comparable to what we'd pay within the old structure.
I didn't ask the question in this thread to be told what a bad idea Verizon is and that I'm going to be ripped off, since I know this is an Evo and Sprint forum...I was just hoping for some helpful information about potential compatibility between rooted phones across different networks.

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Um, well I'm glad you seem to know more about my situation than I do, but I actually have looked through it, I know how much data will be shared within the plan (which is more), and I already have a quoted price and it's comparable to what we'd pay within the old structure.
I didn't ask the question in this thread to be told what a bad idea Verizon is and that I'm going to be ripped off, since I know this is an Evo and Sprint forum...I was just hoping for some helpful information about potential compatibility between rooted phones across different networks.
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Read up on unlocking bootloaders for motor and HTC a big red. Your best bet is Sammy.
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Yes Lookie here.
Verizon Share Plan

alternatives to beating a dead horse

I am opening this thread in hopes it will keep other threads cleaner. Motorola did not update to ICS. we know that.
One suggestion I have is JUMP ship. get a different device. You can get a pantech bust for about $100 on ebay with official ICS. I got a galaxy note for $150 myself. The atrix still goes for around $100.
I still have my atrix as a backup phone.
suggestion 2 keep going the rout of requesting cooperation from moto/punit etc. Yes you may feel it is falling on deaf ears and you may be correct.
My main suggestion and point of this thread is please stop posting about this in every atrix thread on XDA. THese threads are to help the atrix community and people must now search harder to find what they are looking for because they must wade through post after post of motohate then post after post of bickering at other members.
please keep our threads clean
if you have any suggestions of what can be done or good deals on alternative phones post them here
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About jumping ship. I do realize that my suggestion does not help those with all the docks and accessories as much. I do not know what the docks sell for. And I can't speak of the quality of the burst. I do know it requires a smaller sim card. I was just suggesting it as a means to swap for a device with similar specs that is on official ICS with no major cost in the end. I am pleased with the quality of my note but I realize that I got it almost $100 less than average used price

I cant buy another phone...I dont have the money and I have a contract with an operator...and the note in my country cost a lot much than my atrix...so any other sugestion???
from the (M)ATRIX...

I am in US and realize I got a great deal on note. And Also realize that even buying burst even though it has little cost in end has upfront cost of nearly 100 US. I am on straightalk att sim. I am still burnt by moto. I have a nonupgradeable device that is still under manufacture warranty so I don't want to get rid of it yet. hopefully more people will have suggestions as well

I sold my Atrix for a good price ($200) without the lapdock.
then again, I sold it to someone who asks me everyday about how to do stuff, so I consider the extra price as a bonus for all the things I've helped him with.
I got a Note and never looked back. Never again, Motorola. Never.
Still, I'm stuck with an Atrix because my boss has it and he always wants a different ROM. It's a good phone. Such a shame Motorola was backing it.

Well...in my country (argentina) a new atrix on a contract cost 1800 pesos argentinos and a Note on a contract cost 3500 pesos argentinos...so if I want to buy it w/o a contract the note cost 5000 pesos argentinos.
So Im f***...thats why I still pushing moto or punit to release the source code...
from the (M)ATRIX...

AT&T has their own trade in program and currently they value my device at $36. Obviously that's a bit on the low side, but the reality is that something is only worth what you can sell it for, whether that's $10 or $100, and ebay is loaded with them, especially after the ICS cancellation.
That said, I'm stuck in a contract with mine for the next few months with no way out and no money to jump ship. Once opportunity does present itself, I will have to see what's available at the time, but tbh, this was my first true smart phone, yet I'm still feeling stupid for getting it.

Get a phone used that is older than the 4g and has been upgraded to ICS.

My thoughts are you have always been able to upgrade your PC, laptop and other computers at will. Why are phones and tablets any different?
I think the answer is simple: greed. There have always and only ever been excuses that all point to controlling consumer options and taking away freedoms in order to accomplish a bottom line.
For that, I do not believe buying another device will matter. We always end up supporting someone's idea of controlling my content. Screw that. I bought the device, I should be allowed to install what I want. Not what ATT or Motorola or Apple or even Google wants but what I want.
OK, done ranting.
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I do not know how it is in the rest of the world but in the US craigslist is a good source for used phones. as with anything though there are also scammers out there. It was sad to see atrix price drop after ics cancelation. I think they went for almost 200 before to 150 after and now about 150. I got my wife a nexus 7 recently. I know it will stay updated but felt a bit bad purchasing from Motorola parent company Google.

My Atrix is just the latest in a long line of attempts to get a good deal for cheap that partially failed. Got my Atrix just before the announced cancellation of the update. Only good thing is I'm not stuck with a contract. I would have made another phone choice, if I'd jknow was being lied to my Moto.

For me its not so much about them failing on the upgrade. Its more about moto actively trying to keep us from getting ICS or any other rom on our own. Locking bootloaders on updates and ordering cease and desist on the leaked kernel. Its a big FU right in all of our faces. I just can't believe a company would actively do this to their customers, not even their regular customers... the enthusiast. makes no sense to me, before the atrix moto is the only phone company I would have. Now its the only one I refuse to buy.

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For me its not so much about them failing on the upgrade. Its more about moto actively trying to keep us from getting ICS or any other rom on our own. Locking bootloaders on updates and ordering cease and desist on the leaked kernel. Its a big FU right in all of our faces. I just can't believe a company would actively do this to their customers, not even their regular customers... the enthusiast. makes no sense to me, before the atrix moto is the only phone company I would have. Now its the only one I refuse to buy.
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On top of money and carrier contracts we may be stuck in, there's also the issue of carrier compatibility. For those of us with AT&T, I'm sure there are devices they don't offer that will work, and some may even have full capabilities, but when it comes to their current offerings, it's pretty slim pickings, regardless of what OS you want.

my brother asked me today if he could use a s3 from sprint on att. I said sadly no. would be nice since sprint phones always seem to go for less money. probably because they have a worse network. I told him to buy it anyway because they wanted 150 for it and I know it is worth more even if the esn is bad. I have been watching for a good used dual core that is updated for my wife. I am not in a hurry because I want a deal. she has atrix as well for now. been looking at lg nitro and s2 s3 onex. probably some others

I picked up a pantech burst for my wife yesterday for 65$. waiting for simcard cutter. dual core and ICS. plus I can still sell atrix for more than that

Haven't been on XDA for a while. What am I missing? There's plenty of stable Jellybean ROMs around.
Fingerprints a gimmick and you can get a camera app. How good do you want your phone camera to be anyway?
Not being inflammatory but get a ROM and enjoy it until your phone dies a natural death.
In fact mine died and I brought a new one for cheap, that's how happy I am with Th3bills Liquid Smooth.
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Blame Google they control moto now.I got a new phone few weeks back still have my atrix themed all out sweet sits home on WiFi still want to update the kernel in it learning a new phone now am support is dieing on the atrix..
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square_eyes said:
Haven't been on XDA for a while. What am I missing? There's plenty of stable Jellybean ROMs around.
Fingerprints a gimmick and you can get a camera app. How good do you want your phone camera to be anyway?
Not being inflammatory but get a ROM and enjoy it until your phone dies a natural death.
In fact mine died and I brought a new one for cheap, that's how happy I am with Th3bills Liquid Smooth.
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I've got a new phone. i717 note on cm10. a pantech burst on official ics. and will soon be playing with a HTC desire that will have fully functional jellybean. I like playing with these old phones then selling them for more than I paid. and my atrix got replaced under warranty and there is no way as of now to unlock the bootloader.
Even when/if a new kernal is built my atrix is locked. Mine will most likely be sold soon but I want to try the soak test first. Might keep it for a while though as it is under warranty

if there’s a time machine，i would choose Nexus S rather other than Atrix 4g. The crude reality slapped my face，how foolish i was.