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OK. So I'm a little new to Android but I've been reading as much as possible. So far I've rooted, installed CWM and tried out a couple of Dirrk's and jt's flashes.
I originally flashed jt's voodoo kernel with ext4 lagfix and then a couple of Dirrk's 1200's. At this point, I'm running Dirrk's SV1200 kernel.
I'm a little confused about this lagfix thing. At the moment, I don't have the disable_lagfix file in my /sdcard/voodoo directory but, I thought I read that the lagfix was no longer necessary?
I also see jt's clean ROM which doesn't have a kernel. Please forgive my ignorance as I'm still learning but:
1. Should I have a disable_lagfix file in my voodoo directory?
2. Should I flash jt's clean ROM and then Dirrk's 1200 kernel overtop of it?
Lastly, I keep running into the damn market download issue. It seems that google talk won't start and from what I've read, this could be my problem; however, it looks like the only real fix is to do a factory restore. I've done this once and it happened again.
What is the recommended setup for the Fascinate at this point??
A big thanks to all the excellent devs on this board. You guys ROCK!
I don't know anything about the market issue, but my husband's phone had the Gtalk issue once and I discovered that in the main settings menu for time and date, the box that says to get it from the network was unchecked. As soon as I checked this box, Gtalk and everything else worked again. Actually thinking back, I think the market downloads didn't work either with this box unchecked........
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Hi ktez,
thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately, mine is already set to automatic.
Sorry that didn't help - hope you can find a solution!
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At this point I'm gonna flash jt's clean rom and then try Dirrk's LV1250 kernel. I'm hoping his advice to lower the sampling rate will fix the LV issues I was having.
You have to add the disable_lagfix file.
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bblanski said:
You have to add the disable_lagfix file.
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You mean just to do the clean rom and new kernel or leave it there permanently?
You add it and reboot your phone. Flash what you want and then take it off and reboot if you are still running a lagfix kernal..
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You add it and reboot your phone. Flash what you want and then take it off and reboot if you are still running a lagfix kernal..
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Ahh...see...there is where I am confused. Is a voodoo kernel the same as a lagfix kernel? For example, I'm going to flash Dirrk's LV1250 Kernel. Will I need the disable_lagfix file for this kernel?
I am confused now. Yes voodoo is a lagfix. If you flashed a voodoo kernal you can flash other voodoo kernals. If going to a non voodoo kernals you will need to disable_lagfix
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Right so then...voodoo=lagfix. Got it. I'm staying with a voodoo kernel so I shouldn't need the file.
The reason I became confused is because I read a post here that seemed to indicate that lagfix would no longer be necessary b/c of voodoo. Perhaps I read it wrong but, if they're the same thing then the statement doesn't make sense...or...I'm just dumb :-/
I believe that is what they are trying to do
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kupdegrove said:
Right so then...voodoo=lagfix. Got it. I'm staying with a voodoo kernel so I shouldn't need the file.
The reason I became confused is because I read a post here that seemed to indicate that lagfix would no longer be necessary b/c of voodoo. Perhaps I read it wrong but, if they're the same thing then the statement doesn't make sense...or...I'm just dumb :-/
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The lagfix they're referring to here is Ryan's ext2 lagfix that was available prior to voodoo. With voodoo arriving for the fascinate, the old lagfix became obsolete.
Voodoo is also a lagfix, but it is usually referred to as just voodoo.
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LX.SF said:
The lagfix they're referring to here is Ryan's ext2 lagfix that was available prior to voodoo. With voodoo arriving for the fascinate, the old lagfix became obsolete.
Voodoo is also a lagfix, but it is usually referred to as just voodoo.
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Thanks LX! That clears it up
Just read this thread.
Now I'm dizzy.
The apk in THIS thread may be helpful as well. You can open the app and push the button to disable the voodoo lagfix. Then to a complete reboot, and then flash whatever you wish. Do your backups with the lag fix disabled.
Open the app, re-enable the voodoo, and reboot again. easy enough.
You may know already, but be extremely patient during reboots when you have turned voodoo on or off, as they can take awhile. Do not pull your battery in panic. lol.
Daswolven said:
Just read this thread.
Now I'm dizzy.
The apk in THIS thread may be helpful as well. You can open the app and push the button to disable the voodoo lagfix. Then to a complete reboot, and then flash whatever you wish. Do your backups with the lag fix disabled.
Open the app, re-enable the voodoo, and reboot again. easy enough.
You may know already, but be extremely patient during reboots when you have turned voodoo on or off, as they can take awhile. Do not pull your battery in panic. lol.
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Thanks Daswolven. I'm getting better at this now. Once I got past my market issues, all is golden.
I hope this isnt already in here somewhere. I am on xda app and search seems to search every single forum on xda. I didnt see this addressed while looking so sorry if this is elsewhere. But here goes...
Ok so last night I used odin and did my modem.
Next I flashed clean rom in cwm.
At this point all was fine. I did forget to wipe first but phone booted fine and all seemed well.
Next I tried to power down and volume down into cwm but it said, in red, couldnt verify or something and sent me back to stock recovery.
So I rebooted and used rom manager to reboot into recovery where I flashed jt's 1128 test kernel.
During reboot the voice came on and started with "this make take a few minutes" "step one", pause "step two" then a long pause and it repeated "step one" "step two". It never said success but after repeating the two steps it booted up.
The first time I installed voodoo it started with something about converting data partition or something and of course ended with conversion successful.
So now my phone runs fine. But my quadrant score is right at 900.
Am I running voo doo 5 or not?
I am guessing not and would like to know what to do now.
Help please.
Fascinate oc1.2 for now
Everything sounds good but the score its way to low so imo I'm saying no it didn't take..
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i got 2080 on Quadrant running voodoo 4 ???
ya i get 1800+ on voodoo 5
Have you checked the voodoo folder on your sd card and verified the disable_lagfix file isnt still there from a previous voodoo removal?
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Tapatalk error.
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.
It sounds like you didnt flash clockwork mod recovery from rom mang. I got the same failer notice when I deleted the update.zip off my sd card. I just flashed it from rom mang. And all was fine. Hope this helps.
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Ok so I did flash recovery from rom manager with no change. I still could only get into recovery only from rom manager. Using stock recovery then the update didnt work.
Next I replaced update zip with the original file from when I rooted and it immediatley would load fine.(it was also red)
I tried selecting jt's 1128 test kernel again and it did the same exact thing..."this may take a few minutes"..."step one"..."step two"..."this may take afew minutes"..."step one"..."step two" then it booted up.
Same as yesterday
There is no disable file in voodoo folder so what the heck is going on?
Also when I flash jt's 1126 kernel it just boots. No voice at all.
Argh
Fascinate hopefully with voodoo 5 soon
I would try, disable lagfix, reboot, flash non voodoo kernal, reboot, remove all voodoo stuff on sd card, remove update.zip, install rom mang, flash clockwork recovery, and if all is well, then do the voodoo flash.im not sure about the dj05 tho. So this is all up to you.
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You're doing it wrong. Make sure that there isn't a disable_lagfix file. Do an Odin restore back to DH12 system kernel recovery the whole thing. Leave the DJ05 radio. Root the phone and install cwm. Them look in the fascinate dev forum on removing voodoo completely. Do that. Once that is done reinstall clean DJ05 through cwm and then install jt's latest voodoo 5 kernel. It'll run through step one and step 2 twice. And recovery will be red that's the fixed recovery that has voodoo options so you don't need the disable_lagfix file and it has working nandroid backup and restore.
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Would the modem.tar i used to get to where i am now be the dj05 radio?
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this thread helped me a lot. i was pissed after going thru all the install stuff and whatnot from irc, and then it was slower.
but i forgot that i had the disable_lagfix file still in place. deleted that and booyah. fast little phone.
glad i read this thread.
Thanks for this info it took my quadrant from 1100 to the upper 1700s. Phone is super fast and responsive now, simply incredible.
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You're doing it wrong. Make sure that there isn't a disable_lagfix file. Do an Odin restore back to DH12 system kernel recovery the whole thing. Leave the DJ05 radio. Root the phone and install cwm. Them look in the fascinate dev forum on removing voodoo completely. Do that. Once that is done reinstall clean DJ05 through cwm and then install jt's latest voodoo 5 kernel. It'll run through step one and step 2 twice. And recovery will be red that's the fixed recovery that has voodoo options so you don't need the disable_lagfix file and it has working nandroid backup and restore.
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Update:
So here is what i did. I went into cwm and disabled voodoo and conversion even though i don't think i was running voodoo.
Next i removed all voodoo files on the root of my sd card.
Then i flashed a geeknik kernel (love his kernels)
And finally i rebooted into cwm and flashed jt's 1128 test kernel and all is well with the world. I am now running quadrants in the 1700 range and my phone feels nice and snappy.
Woo hoo.
Thanks for the help
Fascinate oc1.2 for now
So, I'm pretty new w/ Android. Just flashed with voodoo lag fix D02-Kernel-LV-1250 using Dirrk's instructions. This means that I did the following:
- Rooted (was already done)
- Installed CWM (from instructions here)
- Downloaded D02-Kernel-LV-1250 and put on SD card
- Rebooted to CWM and did a backup
- Booted into recovery and flashed kernel
- Rebooted
Now, I see that DJ05 is released. (I even see stuff about voodoo lag fix for it...didn't know that was available.) So, now I wished I hadn't installed voodoo lag fix, because I hear it is difficult to uninstall.
I've tried to do my own research here, but I really don't want to change messing up my phone, so I'm asking for help here. Here are the threads I have sifted through:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805052
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804784
- http://forum.androidcentral.com/fascinate-roms-hacks/34819-how-go-back-stock.html
- http://www.fascinateforums.com/foru...oms/685-instruction-remove-voodoo-kernel.html
- http://www.fascinateforums.com/foru...everything-you-wanted-know-about-kernels.html
Questions
What is the trade-off b/w D02 and DJ05?
If DJ05 really has the lag fix, is there any benefit of staying on D02?
For future reference, how do I know what kernel version I am using (Voodoo4 vs Voodoo5)?
Understanding what I've done above, what do I need to do to get to DJ05?
Do I really need to flash to stock and lose everything to get there?
And if so, can I use the backup I made in CWM?
If not, and I have Titanium Backup installed and all apps/data backed up, does it matter if I have to go back to stock?
Sorry for the newbie questions for help, but I really want to make sure I do it right. Any help is greatly appreciated.
FYI, this is what I've looked through for the new stuff available (should I go with the last link?):
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869990
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872378
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874809&highlight=voodoo+lag+fix+vs+dj05
Thanks for any help you can give!
1. D02 is just the kernel version and DJ05 is a firmware update so there is really no comparison here.
2. updating to dj05 is worth it because it fixes several issues with the phone.
3. the only way to tell between voodoo 4 and 5 is to read which one you are downloading
4. it's a good idea to do a full wipe of the phone before updating to dj05 and your nand backup before the update will not work properly because the new kernel doesn't work with the old firmware.
5. if using ti-backup then yes wipe
to remove voodoo go to the voodoo folder on you sd and make a TEXT file called disable_lagfox.txt and reboot then LET IT FINISH COULD TAKE UP TO 20 MIN IN SOME CASES so wait it out don't pull battery no matter what.
when you update use the stupidfast kernels if your afraid of messing up your phone don't use voodoo it really is more of a power user option. didn't answer everything on order I know lol but think I coveted most of it
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I'd like to add that in some cases the disable_lagfix method might not work. (It's supposed to be disable_lagfix, not .txt and not lagfox lol). In my case, it ran for nearly two hours without doing anything. Don't worry, if it takes that long just pull the battery and use ODIN to return to stock (from Adrynalyn's thread). But obviously make backups before you try to disable voodoo.
lol yea disable_lagfix sry swype error haha and the .txt will be added guess I just was thinking about doing it pc side I'm use to putting my own extension sometimes.
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Thanks for the info! I've run out of time to do it before I leave for Christmas, but I'm going to do this first thing when I get back!
DJ05 fixed my GPS to the point of locking nearly instantly.
That's the kicker for me
everything else is gravy
I think my phone may be bricked when I turn it on all I get is the samsung title and it does nothing else. I had just recently updated it with the voodoo with lag fix from rom manager and then this morning flashed it with one of the super fast kernals and that is when it rebooted and never advanced past the samsung logo.
I tried to get the stock .tar form drop box but keep getting a 404 error and I am unable to get that or follow the link to remove the voodoo, that link just goes to just a jumble of symbols with nothing to download. Again sorry if this is covered somewhere else in here but I have looked and tried to fix this but not even the cw recovery works. Oh in case you can't tell I am a newb .
You can't flash non voodoo over voodoo. I'm sure someone will chime in shortly. I don't know how to fix it. Sorry
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Odin to stock. You aren't bricked. Keep trying to download the tar file
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I believe you will have to completely reset your phone to stock with stock kernel/rom etc and you will lose all your data. It will essentially be a new phone again. It will work though.
You can flash non voodoo over voodoo as voodoo uses a different filesystem that is not 'seeable' by non voodoo kernels.
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You can flash non voodoo over voodoo as voodoo uses a different filesystem that is not 'seeable' by non voodoo kernels.
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I would start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804784
Ok I click on the first link and the page just brings up gibberish, like I said I am a newb so don't flame me too bad please, what am I supposed to do with that first link?
Don't click the link. Right-click, save as.
I am unfortunately unclear on the finer points of recovering from a voodoo misadventure, but that first link is intended for voodoo4 and perhaps catastrophic circumstance. I believe you would have voodoo5 if you installed recently via RM, but someone should correct me if I am wrong.
I haven't ever needed voodoo, so I have yet to go down any of these roads. However, if I were in your situation, I would try to clear the lagfix with red cwm first and leave my MBR alone until I was convinced I had to overwrite it. Once you are back to an RFS file system, put on a nonvoodoo file system that matches your base band and/or odin to stock as needed.
In any case, you are embarking on quite a crash course.
You should just be able to flash another voodoo kernel, then all will be fine. If you decide to flash a non voodoo kernel after that, disable the voodoo within red CWM, reboot to let the file system revert, then flash your new kernel
Thanks Kevin that worked just fine, I had to use a different sd card because somehow I write protected the one that came with the phone. It now boots up fine but I need to download everything again . But now I cannot access the market, press the icon and if flashes and then nothing.
So I am running the latest voodoo infused Superclean 2.1 and I found out something that saves a ton of time.
Say you downloaded a .zip file you need to flash in cwr. Before you had to create the disable folder/file, reboot, wait for it to convert back, reboot, flash zip file, remove disable file, reboot..wait for it to enable...
Now I find I can reboot, choose disable voodoo in the new cwr menu, go to zip file and flash it, then immediately toggle voovoo back to enabled, then reboot. No reboots in-between .....
I thought maybe it was a placebo and that voodoo wasn't actually reenabled, but after it booted I ran Linpack and Quadrant and my scores were obviously voodoo enabled scores....
So is it too good to be true?
you are referring to the original voodoo....... I believe the new voodoo source is voodoo 5.
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So I am running the latest voodoo infused Superclean 2.1 and I found out something that saves a ton of time.
Say you downloaded a .zip file you need to flash in cwr. Before you had to create the disable folder/file, reboot, wait for it to convert back, reboot, flash zip file, remove disable file, reboot..wait for it to enable...
Now I find I can reboot, choose disable voodoo in the new cwr menu, go to zip file and flash it, then immediately toggle voovoo back to enabled, then reboot. No reboots in-between .....
I thought maybe it was a placebo and that voodoo wasn't actually reenabled, but after it booted I ran Linpack and Quadrant and my scores were obviously voodoo enabled scores....
So is it too good to be true?
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Yes this had been around for some time now to make it easyer so yeah
First, you don't need to disable voodoo to flash 99% of stuff.
Second, disabling voodoo in the menu just creates the disable_voodoo file for you. you'd still have to reboot for it to disable (and wait through the conversion process) for it to be actually disabled. it's even on the screen. "voodoo actually: enabled"
so when you toggle it off, flash, and back on without rebooting, you aren't disabling it at all.
Really? You didn't know that? Voodoo 5 has been out for MONTHS now. This thread should be moved.
There hasnt been the need to disable voodoo to flash most things for months....since we have had voodoo recovery around Thanksgiving....not exactly a new revelation
You guys might be missing a couple points. This is the voodoo that comes packaged in Superclean2.1 EB01 that Adrenalyne just recently released. So no its not the old voodoo.
Another point someone made was 99% of things don't need voodoo disabled. A couple nights ago after installing SC2.1 I tried to install two different zip files. Both times I got an error. Error at Line 2 or Erie at line 4. IRC member said disable voodoo. So I did and all of a sudden they install fine. Ok. But then I see the voodoo toggle in CWR and I try it without revolting in-between and it works.
Maybe I'm not explaining this well.
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You guys might be missing a couple points. This is the voodoo that comes packaged in Superclean2.1 EB01 that Adrenalyne just recently released. So no its not the old voodoo.
Another point someone made was 99% of things don't need voodoo disabled. A couple nights ago after installing SC2.1 I tried to install two different zip files. Both times I got an error. Error at Line 2 or Erie at line 4. IRC member said disable voodoo. So I did and all of a sudden they install fine. Ok. But then I see the voodoo toggle in CWR and I try it without revolting in-between and it works.
Maybe I'm not explaining this well.
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voodoo5 is voodoo5...theres nothing new in terms of what we can do in recovery with the voodoo options that we couldnt do 2 months ago
ive flashed a ton of stuff in the last few days with voodoo enabled and had no issue or reason to disable/renable in cwr
Well voodoo 5 is new to me. I went from DH12 stock to EB01 Voodoo. Guess its just me learnin'
When jt first released voodoo for eb01 he didn't have cwm fixed yet. About 30 minutes later he released another eb01-voodoo.zip that was 5mb bigger (13mb) because it included a working cwm. Since then I have flashed and restored many times without error or disabling. SC2.1 voodoo includes voodoo5 and working cwm in the zip. If you're still getting an error in red cwm then maybe something is borked and you should start over. Hope this helps.
And all questions should be posted in general. You'll likely get plenty of responses there as well.
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Just to clarify, the ONLY time you ever need to disable the lag fix after enabling it is if you intend to flash a non-Voodoo kernel of any kind. That's because a non-Voodoo kernel is incapable of reading the ext4 filesystem and will freak out when trying to boot. As long as you use the red CWM (which is compatible with ext4; green CWM, like non-Voodoo kernels is not), then you can do nandroid backups/restores and flash roms, themes, and other Voodoo kernels as much as you want without having to worry about disabling the lag fix.
Oh, and disabling and then enabling the lag fix from the CWM menus without rebooting does absolutely nothing, because it has to reboot in between to run the scripts that actually enable or disable the lag fix (this is when you hear the female robotic voice).
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I've just switched to superclean 2.2 with voodoo, and it's my first time using it. I'm enjoying it so far, but I've already made the noob mistake of using rom manager to boot into recovery. Luckily it was only a boot animation, so the flash failed and no damage was done. Just have to get used to manually booting into red cwr.
But it's really good to know I can flash roms without disabling as long as I use red cwr. Didn't see a clear answer to that before. And I can flash other voodoo kernels as well without disabling? Say, for example, kaosinate rom and kernel? Been wanting to try that and jt's vanilla
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Not sure about jt's, but kaos's kernel is a Voodoo kernel, so yes, you wouldn't need to disable the lag fix before flashing it.
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Not sure about jt's, but kaos's kernel is a Voodoo kernel, so yes, you wouldn't need to disable the lag fix before flashing it.
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Yeah, jt has a voodoo kernel for his vanilla froyo. Great to know, ivory, thanks
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You guys might be missing a couple points. This is the voodoo that comes packaged in Superclean2.1 EB01 that Adrenalyne just recently released. So no its not the old voodoo.
Another point someone made was 99% of things don't need voodoo disabled. A couple nights ago after installing SC2.1 I tried to install two different zip files. Both times I got an error. Error at Line 2 or Erie at line 4. IRC member said disable voodoo. So I did and all of a sudden they install fine. Ok. But then I see the voodoo toggle in CWR and I try it without revolting in-between and it works.
Maybe I'm not explaining this well.
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I suggest you stop using voodoo since you clearly know nothing about how it works. As started by someone else, the only time you need to disable voodoo is when flashing a non voodoo kernel. The errors that you got are clearly install script errors. NOT because you're voodoo'd. So you and the person you got advice from know nothing about how voodoo works so I suggest you save yourself the trouble and stop using it.
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I am not sure what is ment by"other" voodoo kernels. I thought voodoo 5 itself was the kernel. Now from reading these posts I have lost some understanding of voodoo. If there are other voodoo kernels, are those others voodoo 5 based? What normal kernel is the stock voodoo 5 based on?
Rocking dj05 and jt's voodoo 5