So, I'm pretty new w/ Android. Just flashed with voodoo lag fix D02-Kernel-LV-1250 using Dirrk's instructions. This means that I did the following:
- Rooted (was already done)
- Installed CWM (from instructions here)
- Downloaded D02-Kernel-LV-1250 and put on SD card
- Rebooted to CWM and did a backup
- Booted into recovery and flashed kernel
- Rebooted
Now, I see that DJ05 is released. (I even see stuff about voodoo lag fix for it...didn't know that was available.) So, now I wished I hadn't installed voodoo lag fix, because I hear it is difficult to uninstall.
I've tried to do my own research here, but I really don't want to change messing up my phone, so I'm asking for help here. Here are the threads I have sifted through:
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805052
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804784
- http://forum.androidcentral.com/fascinate-roms-hacks/34819-how-go-back-stock.html
- http://www.fascinateforums.com/foru...oms/685-instruction-remove-voodoo-kernel.html
- http://www.fascinateforums.com/foru...everything-you-wanted-know-about-kernels.html
Questions
What is the trade-off b/w D02 and DJ05?
If DJ05 really has the lag fix, is there any benefit of staying on D02?
For future reference, how do I know what kernel version I am using (Voodoo4 vs Voodoo5)?
Understanding what I've done above, what do I need to do to get to DJ05?
Do I really need to flash to stock and lose everything to get there?
And if so, can I use the backup I made in CWM?
If not, and I have Titanium Backup installed and all apps/data backed up, does it matter if I have to go back to stock?
Sorry for the newbie questions for help, but I really want to make sure I do it right. Any help is greatly appreciated.
FYI, this is what I've looked through for the new stuff available (should I go with the last link?):
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869990
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872378
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874809&highlight=voodoo+lag+fix+vs+dj05
Thanks for any help you can give!
1. D02 is just the kernel version and DJ05 is a firmware update so there is really no comparison here.
2. updating to dj05 is worth it because it fixes several issues with the phone.
3. the only way to tell between voodoo 4 and 5 is to read which one you are downloading
4. it's a good idea to do a full wipe of the phone before updating to dj05 and your nand backup before the update will not work properly because the new kernel doesn't work with the old firmware.
5. if using ti-backup then yes wipe
to remove voodoo go to the voodoo folder on you sd and make a TEXT file called disable_lagfox.txt and reboot then LET IT FINISH COULD TAKE UP TO 20 MIN IN SOME CASES so wait it out don't pull battery no matter what.
when you update use the stupidfast kernels if your afraid of messing up your phone don't use voodoo it really is more of a power user option. didn't answer everything on order I know lol but think I coveted most of it
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I'd like to add that in some cases the disable_lagfix method might not work. (It's supposed to be disable_lagfix, not .txt and not lagfox lol). In my case, it ran for nearly two hours without doing anything. Don't worry, if it takes that long just pull the battery and use ODIN to return to stock (from Adrynalyn's thread). But obviously make backups before you try to disable voodoo.
lol yea disable_lagfix sry swype error haha and the .txt will be added guess I just was thinking about doing it pc side I'm use to putting my own extension sometimes.
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Thanks for the info! I've run out of time to do it before I leave for Christmas, but I'm going to do this first thing when I get back!
DJ05 fixed my GPS to the point of locking nearly instantly.
That's the kicker for me
everything else is gravy
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This will most definitely wipe all previous remnants of data, including any unlock codes that you may have on your phone!​
Update 10/11/10: This is now a confirmed fix for phones with larger NAND chips;
1. Download Eugenes 'Froyo that does not brick' file.
2. Extract the files.
3. Open Odin, plug in your phone, then put it into download mode.
4. load the PIT file in appropriate area.
5. load the .tar file in the PDA area.
6. DO NOT check 're-partition'.
7. Click start, let it finish. Your phone will load and reboot into stock recovery. It will error out again. DONT panic! This is what's supposed to happen.
8. Now, pull your battery.
9. Download the 'True stock 2.1 firmware for the vibrant'.
10. Extract the files.
11. Once again, open Odin, plug in your phone, put into download mode.
12. Load the PIT file into the appropriate area and the .tar in the PDA area.
13. Once done and phone has rebooted, root your phone & install Rom Manager.
14. Download & Install Bionix 1.7 with OCUV Voodoo
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NOTE: The bootup sound HAS changed.. But if you hear Linda go through the process of changing the format then you can now run voodoo..
(Or if you don't know & you arent for sure, just download Quadrant & if your score is 1500+ voodoo is enabled.)
If you would like to know if you have a larger NAND chip, please follow This guide.
Credits: sombionix | SkOrPn | Masterâ„¢ | JAC
If I forgot anyone in that list, I apologize. Please just PM me so I can add you to the list.
i think my vibrant has the larger nand chip, any way to make sure before i go through the steps above? using terminal on the phone would be best, it's just mount right? not sure what to look for after that
Supercurio has already supplied JAC with the fix for the larger NANDS (I asked him). JAC just has to make a new kernel with it included.
BUT, JI6 is so fast that I don't think that it even needs a lag fix. I've been running it for a couple days with not one hiccup. Don't know what Samsung did but it worked.
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Supercurio has already supplied JAC with the fix for the larger NANDS (I asked him). JAC just has to make a new kernel with it included.
BUT, JI6 is so fast that I don't think that it even needs a lag fix. I've been running it for a couple days with not one hiccup. Don't know what Samsung did but it worked.
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Yeah I know, But until he makes it we can test this for a temp fix
Ok well, I DO have a larger NAND which is why I've been trying to follow the Beta5 development. Can you explain what doing all of this actually does and why it works?
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Ok well, I DOCan you explain what doing all of this actually does and why it works?
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We have no clue.. But we both have done this & for some reason voodoo works on both of our devices now
kangxi said:
Ok well, I DO have a larger NAND which is why I've been trying to follow the Beta5 development. Can you explain what doing all of this actually does and why it works?
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I have been using voodoo for several weeks now. I kept getting the dreaded "this model is not supported" error when trying to apply voodoo kernels. I tried literally dozens of times if not more, I was on the verge of quiting but sombionix told me to try flashing to the froyo rom that does not brick, and then to the stock rom. I immediately rooted, installed Rom Manager and Clockwork recovery, and then flashed bionix 1.4 rom (might have been bionix 1.3 at first, but 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 have all worked since) containing JAC's v1.1 OC/UV/Voodoo kernel with Voodoo beta4.
Voodoo has worked flawlessly ever since... My NAND is the larger 416MB NAND. Go figure....
All we are asking of you guys is to have a little faith and try this procedure. If it works, then you get voodoo bliss, and if it don't then we are back where we started. You have nothing to lose but a hour or less of your time. Give it a try and report back here please. Good luck...
SkOrPn said:
I have been using voodoo for several weeks now. I kept getting the dreaded "this model is not supported" error when trying to apply voodoo kernels. I tried literally dozens of times if not more, I was on the verge of quiting but sombionix told me to try flashing to the froyo rom that does not brick, and then to the stock rom. I immediately rooted, installed Rom Manager and Clockwork recovery, and then flashed bionix 1.4 rom (might have been bionix 1.3 at first, but 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 have all worked since) containing JAC's v1.1 OC/UV/Voodoo kernel with Voodoo beta4.
Voodoo has worked flawlessly ever since... My NAND is the larger 416MB NAND. Go figure....
All we are asking of you guys is to have a little faith and try this procedure. If it works, then you get voodoo bliss, and if it don't then we are back where we started. You have nothing to lose but a hour or less of your time. Give it a try and report back here please. Good luck...
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He didn't even tell me, lol
It'd be nice to see Bionix v1.8 come with Voodoo Beta5 since they're both so close at hand so we don't have to go through this crazy business. Good work and great find, though!
I followed this method and it allowed me to use the Voodoo Lag Fix. I was never able to get it to work before, would never hear the boot up sequence telling me my file system was being converted etc. After flashing Eugenes Froyo rom and flashing back due to stability issues I tried Bionix 1.5 and was able to flash the voodoo kernel. I checked before when it wouldn't work for me and found that I too also have the larger NAND chip. I upgraded to Bionox 1.6 just fine, not sure why it worked but Its been wonderful these past 2 weeks.
I second ji6 is impressive.
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vdubgti08 said:
I followed this method and it allowed me to use the Voodoo Lag Fix. I was never able to get it to work before, would never hear the boot up sequence telling me my file system was being converted etc. After flashing Eugenes Froyo rom and flashing back due to stability issues I tried Bionix 1.5 and was able to flash the voodoo kernel. I checked before when it wouldn't work for me and found that I too also have the larger NAND chip. I upgraded to Bionox 1.6 just fine, not sure why it worked but Its been wonderful these past 2 weeks.
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Yeah Voodoo beta5 was never needed, so a whole lot of people waited for nothing. LOL
So i searched the forums and didnt find a definate answer, maybe i didnt search the correct terms or something, idk. My question is, if you have a larger nand and voodoo DOESNT install, do you still need to run "disable-lagfix" when flashing a backup or another rom?
2sh0rt said:
So i searched the forums and didnt find a definate answer, maybe i didnt search the correct terms or something, idk. My question is, if you have a larger nand and voodoo DOESNT install, do you still need to run "disable-lagfix" when flashing a backup or another rom?
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No i do not believe so, BUT, I would still put that file into the voodoo folder anyway. There is no harm in doing so. When you get the other rom installed and setup how you like, then you can remove it. Voodoo can be enabled and disabled at will simply by removing/replacing the "disable-lagfix" file into the voodoo folder. Its just as easy as that really...
Hope that helps.
I Really think you don't need to since your file system is still rfs,
how do you totally remove voodoo? if i flash back to the last backup i have BEFORE installing bio1.7 voodoo will voodoo still be there or will it be gone?
I think you would need to put the disable-lagfix file/folder in the voodoo folder. Then reboot wait until it's done, then flash a kernal that isn't voodoo.After that then restore your back up. For some reason, I thought my back up was fine, but when I take the disable-lagfix file out, it would reinstall voodoo again when I boot. It might just be me, but I don't think nandroid back-ups restore the kernal. I could be wrong...
Daddy_617 said:
I think you would need to put the disable-lagfix file/folder in the voodoo folder. Then reboot wait until it's done then flash a kernal that isn't voodoo then restore your back up. For some reason before I thought my back up was fine and when I take the disable-lagfix file out it would reinstall it again when I boot. It might just be me but I don't think nandroi back ups restore the kernal. I could be wrong...
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Yes you need to put that disable-lagfix file into the voodoo folder on the sdcard. Reboot, it will tell you voodoo is being disabled/transformed back into rfs, once finished you can then proceed with your normal flashing routine.
Linda's beautiful voice!!!
I'm a long time lurker, but I've never had anything constructive to say so I've silently read, and slowly learned how to make my phone more awesome. I'm happy to say that I followed these directions exactly and voodoo finally enabled. What a great find! Thanks!
Orwell83 said:
I'm a long time lurker, but I've never had anything constructive to say so I've silently read, and slowly learned how to make my phone more awesome. I'm happy to say that I followed these directions exactly and voodoo finally enabled. What a great find! Thanks!
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Glad to hear another happy voodoo user, and yet more proof that beta4 works on all vibrants including larger nand variants.
Your welcome Orwell
After hearing terrible horror stories of people following the proper instructions on how to remove the lagfix, I thought I'd ask some questions that might help many [inquiring] people as well as myself.
1.) If you have Voodoo installed, I assume that it's okay to install the current ROMs on xda (i.e. jt's superclean, frost's, blue breeze) because those ROMs flash /system and voodoo affects /data, correct?
2.) When flashing a ROM, it is recommended that you wipe data / cache to prevent any issues from occurring. The only issue with this is that you can't wipe data (from CWM) with Voodoo installed, correct?
3.) If the above answer is correct, then is there a more efficient way of wiping data WITHOUT having to disable lagfix (which seems to be causing problems for those who are even following the appropriate directions). For example, would clearing the delvik cache be a sufficient replacement for wiping data/cache to satisfy the recommendation when flashing a current ROM?
Thanks in advance.
Hey there, I saw you had a bunch of views but no responses yet, so I thought I'd chime in, I'm not new to android or flashing roms, but this voodoo kinda freaked me out as well hearing all the horror stories. I still do not completely understand voodoo myself, but I can tell you from my expereinces, I have flashed a few themes and roms with Dirrks kernel with voodoo, and aside from the usual of taking your time and following the directions...
I use Root Explorer and create a "disable_lagfix" file inside the voodoo folder, and let everything run its course...i.e. when installing the kernel, it takes a long time and the screen does go black for part of it, but let it all play out and don't touch the phone, pull the battery, ect. and it does even take longer to remove voodoo once you put the "remove_lagfix" file and reboot.
I'd say it was a good 10 min. on the samsung screen before anything came back up and running, but I resisted freaking out and let everything boot up properly, and I have had zero problems with it.
It does take twice as long to load roms or themes becasue I always have preferred wiping all data and cache when installing new roms and creating a nandroid, just have had better luck in the past by doing that, so by disabling voodoo, leting it boot back up, doing the clockwork thing, then having to re-enable voodoo is a pita, but in my experiences its been no issue and i've never run into any issues so far. (fingers crossed now becasue of that statement)
Hope it helps you a little bit.
Nice post. Solid advice. Patience is key as is doing it the right way
Sent from my 1.2Ghz voodoo fascinate
starscream84 said:
Hey there, I saw you had a bunch of views but no responses yet, so I thought I'd chime in, I'm not new to android or flashing roms, but this voodoo kinda freaked me out as well hearing all the horror stories. I still do not completely understand voodoo myself, but I can tell you from my expereinces, I have flashed a few themes and roms with Dirrks kernel with voodoo, and aside from the usual of taking your time and following the directions...
I use Root Explorer and create a "disable_lagfix" file inside the voodoo folder, and let everything run its course...i.e. when installing the kernel, it takes a long time and the screen does go black for part of it, but let it all play out and don't touch the phone, pull the battery, ect. and it does even take longer to remove voodoo once you put the "remove_lagfix" file and reboot.
I'd say it was a good 10 min. on the samsung screen before anything came back up and running, but I resisted freaking out and let everything boot up properly, and I have had zero problems with it.
It does take twice as long to load roms or themes becasue I always have preferred wiping all data and cache when installing new roms and creating a nandroid, just have had better luck in the past by doing that, so by disabling voodoo, leting it boot back up, doing the clockwork thing, then having to re-enable voodoo is a pita, but in my experiences its been no issue and i've never run into any issues so far. (fingers crossed now becasue of that statement)
Hope it helps you a little bit.
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Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind. Now that theres a Voodoo Toggle things should be a bit easier
This is more of a general response to the idea of voodoo "horror stories" than your specific questions but I have installed/disabled voodoo many times to try different kernel variations/install new roms and I have never run into a problem. I'd have to think 90% of the horror stories can be traced to user error.
I'm not trying to be a **** or anything, this stuff can be confusing and I've made mistakes in the past as I'm sure everyone has.
All I'm saying is that if you're careful, patient and always follow instructions (and for me, I ALWAYS wipe data/cache before installing anything) I think voodoo and you (or any kernel/rom, for that matter) can have a wonderful relationship.
Sent from my 1.2ghz VooDoo Fascinate
It will also only take one good f-up, followed by seven hours of fixing it to learn what not to do if you don't feel like reading first.
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throwing the phone into downloading will still wipe everything right?
starscream84 said:
Hey there, I saw you had a bunch of views but no responses yet, so I thought I'd chime in, I'm not new to android or flashing roms, but this voodoo kinda freaked me out as well hearing all the horror stories. I still do not completely understand voodoo myself, but I can tell you from my expereinces, I have flashed a few themes and roms with Dirrks kernel with voodoo, and aside from the usual of taking your time and following the directions...
I use Root Explorer and create a "disable_lagfix" file inside the voodoo folder, and let everything run its course...i.e. when installing the kernel, it takes a long time and the screen does go black for part of it, but let it all play out and don't touch the phone, pull the battery, ect. and it does even take longer to remove voodoo once you put the "remove_lagfix" file and reboot.
I'd say it was a good 10 min. on the samsung screen before anything came back up and running, but I resisted freaking out and let everything boot up properly, and I have had zero problems with it.
It does take twice as long to load roms or themes becasue I always have preferred wiping all data and cache when installing new roms and creating a nandroid, just have had better luck in the past by doing that, so by disabling voodoo, leting it boot back up, doing the clockwork thing, then having to re-enable voodoo is a pita, but in my experiences its been no issue and i've never run into any issues so far. (fingers crossed now becasue of that statement)
Hope it helps you a little bit.
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just so im clear on this, based on what you're saying:
if i have voodoo (using jt's kernel) and want to install a rom I would disable_voodoo, let that take its course, install rom, reinstall voodoo?
dopepope said:
just so im clear on this, based on what you're saying:
if i have voodoo (using jt's kernel) and want to install a rom I would disable_voodoo, let that take its course, install rom, reinstall voodoo?
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If all you were doing was installing the rom, you wouldn't have to disable voodoo first UNLESS the rom you were installing included a kernel and it was non-voodoo. If you wanted to make a backup, then you may need to disable voodoo first. If you're upgrading the kernel from voodoo to another voodoo kernel, you also wouldn't have to disable it before hand.
So I broke my market like a week ago and can't fix it. The only thing I haven't tried is recovering to a few weeks ago BUT I am unsure if it's safe to do because I am currently running on DJ05 with Nemesis's test 6 sv1100 voodoo kernel.
If I revert back to a time (using the red recovery screen) with dl01 and NO lagfix installed (without a broken market too) will I be okay? If it's okay to do, will DJ05 still end up being installed?
I am fairly new to this but I always try to figure things out myself before asking. However, I was unable to find difinitive answers and I am just unsure.
Any clear help in layman's terms would be greatly appreciated!!
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If you are flashing a non voodoo kernel over a voodoo one you must first disable voodoo. Do this by creating a folder or file named disable_lagfix and putting it in the voodoo folder of your sd card.
Just to be safe, reboot fully before flashing anything. It should do the voodoo female robot voice. When you get back onto your home screen run quadrant to ensure your scores are somewhere around 800. If they are still over 1000 voodoo didn't disable properly. If it's disabled you should be all clear to flash a non voodoo kernel. Just make sure if you have a dj05 modem and kernel the rom needs to be dj05 etc. good luck
Edit: just in case I didn't read your post correctly: if you are restoring an old backup of di01 you will also need to flash the stock di01 modem through odin and a di01 kernel through cwm. Hope this helps.
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I'm a relative newbie and not very tech-oriented, and I appear to have screwed up big time. I'd appreciate any help that can be offered. To cut to the chase, when I attempt to boot up my Fascinate, it gets stuck indefinitely on the Samsung logo.
Here's what I did to screw it up. I rooted my phone when I first got it last year and did a lagfix. It unrooted with the update to JD05. Yesterday I attempted to root it again using two different 1-click methods, neither of which worked. I then followed the instructions in the "Modified CWMrecovery for Odin" thread, not having it work until finally succeeding in getting root using CWM Red. The phone rebooted and was rooted, and everything seemed fine, so I used Rom Manager to Boot to Recovery. This did something strange--it took 15 minutes to get to the recovery screen, with a digital voice periodically telling me how much longer it would take. When I got to the recovery screen the first thing I did was to perform a backup. I think this effort to be safe did me in, because the phone must have already been screwed up then and I think I backed up the screw-up.
I then attempted to reboot and since then all efforts get me stuck on the Samsung logo. I've tried almost all options from the Recovery screen: reboot system now, apply sdcard update.zip, wipe date/factory reset, wipe cache partition, install zip from ascard, and restore. All bring the same locked up phone.
I'd appreciate any ideas to bring my Fascinate back to life!
First off the only way to get to red CWM is to install a voodoo 5 kernel. I'm thinking the voodoo kernel and the one click lag fix don't play well together. I'm sure someone else will step in with more info however I would start by looking for a thred called how to completely remove voodoo. Then try odin to restore. Good luck.
Edit. I read your post again and not sure if u did one click lag fix or just an older voodoo kernel. Either way same result u have to disable voodoo 4 and one click to install voodoo 5. Odin it. The voice u hear was the voodoo kernel converting your system to ext4 if this was the first time you've heard this I think your first lag fix may have been the one click.
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Yes this happed to me too. If i take it to the Verizon store will they know my phone is rooted and moded? i need help ASAP
Search the forums on how to properly removed the voodoo lag fix. Then you need to reflash dj05. Voodoo doesn't really do much except for show you a higher quadrant score and limit to what roms/themes you can install. Same thing happened to me. Just do a quick search, I think its in the development section. The easiest way to remove it is with and. Hope this is somewhat helpful.
so fresh and so superclean.
Don't bring it to verizon because you would be defrauding them for your mistake. see if you can access your sd card through the computer and put either a file or folder in the voodoo folder called disable_lagfix and try booting again. If that doesn't help (it is probably too late for that) then you need to flash back to stock through odin. find the thread in development on how to do that. Good luck. Your phone is not broken. Breathe.
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Here is the ODIN back to stock if you don't want to bother with removing Voodoo. That should fix your phone with or without Voodoo. It's always worked for me.
THANKS SO MUCH its back to normal i cant thank you enough
Many thanks for all of the help.
I've rooted my fascinate, tried several different ROMs and kernels. I've got it setup using Super Dark DJ05 with a voodoo kernel. I've done enough backups and restores from different ROMs I feel pretty comfortable with the phone, voodoo, themes, CWM, etc. It's running very fast, 12-16 hr battery, great looking theme. I'm happy with the phone like it is. But, just because it's not EB01, should I risk messing up the setup I've got just to get Froyo or just be happy with being outdated and keeping what I've got? What's the safest way to get from voodoo kernel to EB01, voodoo or not?
I would say keep what you have if your satisfied with it, as far as getting EB01, "odin"! Rock on!
Just batch backup apps with titanium backup. Download eb01 of your choice. Wipe data cache battery stats and dalvik. In eb01.zip and restore batch app backup titanium. What's their to mess up should only take about 20 minutes. If your comfortable with cwm and root and stuff I'd just do it. If youclve done what you said its just as easy to do this. Plus how much more are people going to develop for eclair. Everyone is working on froyo now so I'd say make the jump. I really like my setup in my sig.
Oh yea don't forget to flash modem via Odin. Easy as well
What special would I need to do since I'm already running voodoo? Do I need to uninstall voodoo or just go straight to a voodoo EB01 kernel when I install EB01?
Disable lagfix and have at it
Used my magic voodoo powers
If you're going from voodoo to voodoo you don't need to disable lagfix. The proper steps are as follows:
-flash the EB01 modem over pda button in odin
-wipe data, etc
-flash EB01 rom of choice in cwm
-flash voodoo kernel in cwm
If using jt's aosp flash g apps before the kernel.
You should be all set after that.
Edit: you can disregard that bit about aosp, I thought it was EB01 based but it appears to be based on DL30.
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If you back up the apps with titanium make sure to only back up downloaded apps. back up system apps or system settings (they are different colors in titanium) only if you have a specific reason to (like I back up the user dictionary and a couple other settings... ). restoring old versions of the system apps causes problems. So you could selectively back certain things up and restore them all or back everything up and restore things selectively.
Id say do it if you're patient and adventurous. The only con I've had is My battery life has suffered a lot (even after resetting bat stats with the script adrenalyn posted and cycling it properly, as well as experimenting with auto rotation off and all the other suggestions that have been going on) But every thing else is running like a dream. All the updated system apps are great, the new swype works a lot better, my signal bars seem more accurate, gps is locking in about a second... everything is smooth and quick and clean... etc. (I am using superclean)
I also have the luxury of having a car charger, a work charger and a charger by my bed at night... so since I'm one of the people experiencing battery issues... it also isnt that big of a deal to me. I was getting about a day and a half to two days before and now I'm getting about three quarters of a day.
I appreciate all the recommendations so far.
Just what would be the advantages of upgrading to Froyo? Is it just the "latest thing out" attraction or what?