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So since the latest official update my phone just reboots out of nowhere. Sometimes it's when I open Maps or Gallery, other times it's just random when sitting on standby on my desk or in my pocket.
I'm running the stock firmware and everything, just with root. I haven't installed new apps nor changed any configuration settings since the multitouch update a while back, it just randomly started doing the reboots.
It's not very frequent.. maybe once every 4 days or so, but it's still a bit annoying.
Is the battery making a good connection. I had a similar issue with my G1 worth an extended battery and had to wedge paper in the side to hold it solid, then my issues went away.
It did that to me too when I was on stock. (original and update 1)
Happened either when I tried to start "talk", "maps", or randomly on its own.
I suspect its because I had severely overloaded the OS. (less than 10MB free in /Data and <20MB RAM free, 160+ apps)
jsapp said:
Is the battery making a good connection. I had a similar issue with my G1 worth an extended battery and had to wedge paper in the side to hold it solid, then my issues went away.
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It seems solid to me, I can't jiggle it around.
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It did that to me too when I was on stock. (original and update 1)
Happened either when I tried to start "talk", "maps", or randomly on its own.
I suspect its because I had severely overloaded the OS. (less than 10MB free in /Data and <20MB RAM free, 160+ apps)
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I don't have a lot of apps installed and there's even less that run in the background apart from the stock apps, which is why I'm a bit stumped
the question is if its a soft or hard reboot.... use adb and pull /last_kmsg ... sure if u pastebin it and post it "someone" (ie. not me) will be able to help you out.... I believe that log will show someone with expertise if its hard or software related....
Under battery use it says 87%..is that normal??
In my experience of owning a G1 and an Evo (Both Android Devices) I have never seen the percentage be that high before. I just checked my Evo and my Android System is 27%. Im not sure if any harm in it being that high but it doesn't look normal to me.
i just checked again and it's now 91%
Do you have all of the bells and whistles running? Constant updates via Facebook/Twitter/Flickr/Weather/Gmail/etc? Something's got to be running in the background if Android system is that high up.
Also check you google syncing.
I dont ever use calendar, so disabling it from syncing was a good way to go.
i have all syncing off..i pretty much have everything off to save battery
I just looked at mine...pretty much all the syncing on and live wallpaper...Android System 10%.
Definitely sounds like there is an app keeping the phone awake. Also there is the chance an app could have a memory leak.
I don't like that HTC Function test program that's running. It's the GSD.Apk or something like that in /system/app. Back on the hero this app was a big battery burner. Gotta find a way to get rid of it.
great..i just checked and it's up too 95% now..i have no idea what to do..
Turn the phone off, and turn it back on...that will probably clear up the problem...
The moderator over at android central had this to say
" That means that 91% of the things that have used your battery are part of Android and not third party apps. Not that Android System is running 91% of the time. The higher the number for Android System, the better"
So i guess that explains it since i haven't been using third party apps yet..
How soon after unplugging your phone are you looking at this percentage? This number resets every time you unplug your phone. If you have just unplugged your phone and haven't done much with it than the android system percentage will naturally be high.
No Real Solution but helped me quite a bit
Sooo... I believe i was having the same problem. It was accompanied by an extremely high temperature (processor (140F) and chip (120F) ). ((I scaled the processor down to 600mhz and that only marginally decreased the temperature 5-10*)). I saw someone mention a memory leak... well my widget says that i still have a healthy 383MB of ram available and it seems to be stable at around that same figure. I also noticed that in the status bar the data (up) (down) arrows (underneath the H+) showed a download flash 4x then showed a constant arrow like i was downloading something (down arrow, 2 sec, down arrow, 2 sec, down arrow, 2 sec, down arrow, 2 sec, then a constant arrow down). My Network traffic widget showed that I was downloading at intervals of 1sec at a rate of 1kbs. This continued until my battery died or I turned on the wifi and connected to a network.
My solution that yielded a (checking now) 24% battery drain from Android System (from a previous 70-85%).
I deleted a great few apps (most recent first of course) but the thing that showed the most benefit was to change my gmail password on a computer and dissallow my android to log-in to gmail.
I believe it was/is a syncing error and a bug in the android system itsself.
also facebook has been blamed for increasing Android system battery usage.
I went the extra mile and deleted linked in, facebook, and twitter. as well as deleted my moto-blur accounts. As i said im only down to 24% which is still very high for this process (from my experience).
I hope my trials, findings and long-windedness helps someone and sorry this is such a long post.
I still have no real solution. I'm here looking for answers too!
thanks in advance
SRY android dev probably just fed you some BS
I'm no mod, but when the operating system uses all your resources thats NOT a good operating system.
a smooth running and new android device should use only a small percentage on Android System, like were talking 5% or less. not 90%
that "mod" told you that the operating system was doing all your phone could do without any 3rd party apps.... ERRONIOUS!
Again no disrespect if im wrong (im no DEV)
But durn that sounds fishy
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I'm assuming your running an aosp gingerbread rom? There's really nothing you can do about it
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Just one data point, but it seems like a very clear takeaway:
I used titanium to uninstall a bunch of social apps, specifically anything including the words
facebook
twitter
flickr
instagram
linkedin
picasa
Importantly, I included any related apps (eg "Facebook Engine.." "Facebook for HTC Sense" etc)
I also uninstalled Car.. and HTC Car..
I found to my surprise that battery life got worse.
Much worse.
I ran the phone like this for two weeks and got somewhere between half and three-quarters of the battery performance during a normal day's use. A key observation is I went from losing 1-6% battery capacity overnight to losing 20% every night.
I restored a nandroid backup (returning the phone to its state immediately before removing these apps - - I made the nandroid for this reason and only this reason, and removing the social apps was the only change I made to the phone after making the nandroid) and my battery life immediately returned to normal. The last two nights since I made the change I lost only 2% battery life instead of 20.
Again, this is only one data point, and it's *possible* some other random thing happened in my world that could have caused this. But I really earnestly tried to be scientific (and patient) about this, and to me at least the result was very VERY clear.
Just leave the social apps, even if you don't use them.
[NB- I always remove 7digital, kidmode, rescue security, and I sometimes remove Chrome, and have never noticed an effect on battery life after removing those apps, over many months of owning the phone]
PS I don't have the paid version of TB, so no, I didn't freeze, I uninstalled outright and was forced to nandroid back to get to where I was before.
That sounds very strange!?
well, anyway, those apps, how much space are they taking from storage?
i feel i dont need to remove any apps, have plenty of room.
Just disable them under apps, and the hide the rest with whatever launcher you're using.
Battery life was fine for me (when I ran stock), and it's fine on my gf's one (who is currently still stock)
I remover app bloat all the time and get better battery. Are your sure your not doing it wrong?
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Just selected the app in Titanium and clicked "uninstall". You tell me - is that doing it wrong?
I don't think this so much about *how* to uninstall an app but rather *whether* to uninstall an app that other parts of the whole system are expecting to be there.
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Just selected the app in Titanium and clicked "uninstall". You tell me - is that doing it wrong?
I don't think this so much about *how* to uninstall an app but rather *whether* to uninstall an app that other parts of the whole system are expecting to be there.
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Usually bloatware is installed as a system app. Sometimes when you uninstall them you can get some weird wakelocks or FC's. I usually freeze the app. Delete all data then uninstall.
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Usually bloatware is installed as a system app. Sometimes when you uninstall them you can get some weird wakelocks or FC's. I usually freeze the app. Delete all data then uninstall.
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This is true. Get an app like BetterBatteryStats and it will tell you if there is anything causing excessive drain. I have personally never experienced worse battery life after installing social apps.
That's crazy talk. Its definitely all in your head...
Experienced similar thing too. Tried several "debloated" ROMs like Trickdroid, Orio, few others (both when they were 4.2 and now leaked 4.3) and had an awful battery life. Went back to 4.2.2 stock (2.24.401.8) and now I can use my phone throughout the day again.
Well, what's being discussed here is taking a virgin stock ROM that has been running happily for some time and then using titanium to uninstall all the social apps at once: this method may cause wakelocks.
A ROM that has had all the "bloat" removed in advance before you even flash it seems less likely to leave your phone in such a state?
I'm not saying your experience is not real, and it raises an interesting point, but it still seems to me if bad battery life were common to all those debloated ROMs, I think we'd have heard more about it by now?
The right way to really test this, which was suggested above and I'm sorry I didn't do, is install BBS or GSAM and find out *what* is eating battery.
All I know is
- I changed X
- Things got worse
- I undid X
- Things got better
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That's crazy talk. Its definitely all in your head...
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I restored a nandroid backup (returning the phone to its state immediately before removing these apps - - I made the nandroid for this reason and only this reason, and removing the social apps was the only change I made to the phone after making the nandroid) and my battery life immediately returned to normal. The last two nights since I made the change I lost only 2% battery life instead of 20.
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Now to test again remove the bloat again and see what the battery life does. But it's good you actually did some testing unlike the people calling you crazy but if your battery life decreases again after repeating the experiment the results are much stronger.
i remove all bloat that i would never use and my battery is fine
When I was stock, I froze everything that I considered to be bloat. I typically don't uninstalled system components. There's always a chance of borking something by uninstalling something you shouldn't have.
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I'll uninstall carrier apps, because those are added after the fact. Uninstalling system apps can definitely cause issues. Better to hide them like someone suggested.
I have a SM-900V that is running a rooted stock version of MJ7. I removed most of the bloatware, but I noticed that my battery drains much faster than before.
Below is a screenshot of my battery usage by app. I see that the index service is using more battery than ever.
Can I uninstall this application? What are the advantages/disadvantages of doing this? What can I do to change the indexing settings?
Thank you all for your help
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I have a SM-900V that is running a rooted stock version of MJ7. I removed most of the bloatware, but I noticed that my battery drains much faster than before.
Below is a screenshot of my battery usage by app. I see that the index service is using more battery than ever.
Can I uninstall this application? What are the advantages/disadvantages of doing this? What can I do to change the indexing settings?
Thank you all for your help
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I noticed the exact same thing was happening on my Verizon Note 3 last week sometime as well. Usually when I'm at work all day, I leave work around 4 and my battery is still 90-95% full, but all of a sudden one day after work, my dang battery was showing like 45-55% !! I was like WTF??? So I did the same thing as you and checked the battery stats and found the exact same thing, "IndexService," was EATING MY BATTERY ALIVE! It was practically dropping percentages in front of my eyes..
I did a lot of research on xda and all over the web and there's a TON of info about it. LOTS and LOTS of people have experienced this problem besides just us, so I didn't feel NEARRRLLLYYY as bad lol. The general consensus from others experiencing this is that it has to do with the "IndexService" scanning the files on the phone and "getting hung up" on a corrupted/bad .pdf file(s), thus stuck in some sort of loop of trying to scan/analyze the culprit .pdf file(s), thus eating your battery alive. From what I've read, there's not really any way to really determine what the specific file(s) is/are, so most people have just removed the last few .pdf files that they've downloaded/transferred to their phones. I guess your options for that route are either deleting the last few(or all new ones) .pdf files, sending them to cloud storage, transferring them over to another form of media storage(different sd card, pc hard drive, cloud, etc.), formatting the external SD card(if that's where the file(s) are located), or removal and replacing with a different card altogether. After you remove whatever is the cause, just try to avoid downloading any .pdf files at all.
I, on the other hand, didn't feel like getting rid of any files, so I just used the donation version of the "Greenify" app and greenified "IndexService" as well as "S-Finder"( "S-Finder" is a Samsung search app that's a co-conspirator involved in all of this mess!! ). By using "Greenify," it seemed to solve my problem almost immediately, as over the next few hours after "Greenifying" those two, it was almost like instant gratification! I haven't tried using TiBackup to freeze them, but I'm pretty certain that I read of that also being an option. I don't see why it wouldn't work just the same, if not better than the methods I just discussed.
Good luck and I hope this helps a little bit!! :good:
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I noticed the exact same thing was happening on my Verizon Note 3 last week sometime as well. Usually when I'm at work all day, I leave work around 4 and my battery is still 90-95% full, but all of a sudden one day after work, my dang battery was showing like 45-55% !! I was like WTF??? So I did the same thing as you and checked the battery stats and found the exact same thing, "IndexService," was EATING MY BATTERY ALIVE! It was practically dropping percentages in front of my eyes..
I did a lot of research on xda and all over the web and there's a TON of info about it. LOTS and LOTS of people have experienced this problem besides just us, so I didn't feel NEARRRLLLYYY as bad lol. The general consensus from others experiencing this is that it has to do with the "IndexService" scanning the files on the phone and "getting hung up" on a corrupted/bad .pdf file(s), thus stuck in some sort of loop of trying to scan/analyze the culprit .pdf file(s), thus eating your battery alive. From what I've read, there's not really any way to really determine what the specific file(s) is/are, so most people have just removed the last few .pdf files that they've downloaded/transferred to their phones. I guess your options for that route are either deleting the last few(or all new ones) .pdf files, sending them to cloud storage, transferring them over to another form of media storage(different sd card, pc hard drive, cloud, etc.), formatting the external SD card(if that's where the file(s) are located), or removal and replacing with a different card altogether. After you remove whatever is the cause, just try to avoid downloading any .pdf files at all.
I, on the other hand, didn't feel like getting rid of any files, so I just used the donation version of the "Greenify" app and greenified "IndexService" as well as "S-Finder"( "S-Finder" is a Samsung search app that's a co-conspirator involved in all of this mess!! ). By using "Greenify," it seemed to solve my problem almost immediately, as over the next few hours after "Greenifying" those two, it was almost like instant gratification! I haven't tried using TiBackup to freeze them, but I'm pretty certain that I read of that also being an option. I don't see why it wouldn't work just the same, if not better than the methods I just discussed.
Good luck and I hope this helps a little bit!! :good:
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Thanks. I did just load a bunch of PDFs onto my phone. I'll remove them and see if it helps. I'll move them to the cloud, as you suggested.
Any other tips?
Removing all of the PDF files and putting them into the cloud vastly improved my battery life back to what I was used to! Thanks for the tip!
I'll have to try Greenify.
I noticed this same thing, but not after putting PDFs on my phone, it happened after using S-Note.
Hopefully this works, kinda bad to have a Note 3 and not really be able to use my S-Pen to take notes on it because the indexing goes mad whenever I do, especially now that I have 4.4 and the other major selling point of this phone has been gimped.
I have a moto pure running 6.0. Recently I ran into an issue with the google search bar crashing every time i tried a search. I went an uninstalled the google app, rebooted and reinstalled. This resolved the crash with google search but started another issue.
I was having the google app being my number 2 battery user with high CPU pretty much spot on matching the screen time - the device was warm and battery life reduced by 3x from my normal. I installed a CPU monitoring app and noticed that the CPU usage was about 15% continuous for the google search bar googleqicksearchbox:search and googlequicksearchbox together take about 15% and don't stop.
I've tried:
uninstalling the google app, reboot, reinstall
cleared caches for the google app
cleared caches for the google now launcher
uninstalled and reinstalled the google now launcher
Nothing resolved the issue until i did this:
If i remove the google app 4x3 widget the CPU returns to normal - battery returns to normal.
So, it appears to be related to the widget. Does anyone have any other ideas on how to resolve this so i can use the widget? I figure I might be stuck with having to factory reset to resolve.
Google App update constantly listens to audio.
You see it too?
There seems to have been an update on 2/19/16 that broke it, and my own device seems to have picked up the update on 2/26. I noticed that the battery was draining very quickly for the past couple of days, even when idle with the screen off, though it wasn't warm or anything as is usually the case when something goes awry. GSam Battery Stats showed the usual mess of inexplicable Googleness chomping at things, using sensors, and being Googley, but nothing grossly out of the ordinary.
And with the screen on, doing the usual non-intensive things I do, I could watch the battery percentage drop precipitously: 4 percent in a few minutes.
I was using Google Now Launcher, and figured that might be related. I switched to a different launcher, no change. Rebooted for good measure and to make sure Google Now Launcher was definitely not running, no change.
Then I froze the Google App in TiBackup, and the problem went away.
I honed into it being Google App by using top. In a terminal: top -t -b 16. Screenshot: i.imgur.com/19bVXsG.png (no link because I'm too n00b here).
Of note in the screenshot is PID 14272. It's got a lot of threads going, which is not unexpected.
What was unexpected is that some of them were listening to audio. The thread names are abbreviated by top, but one of the threads (14582) is MicrophoneReade which occasionally showed some CPU usage. Another constantly-active thread (14581) is MicroRecognitio, a name which implies TTS. And PID 787, /system/bin/mediaserver, was pretty insistent on using CPU as well with its thread (14584) called AudioIn_2D, verifying that audio was being recorded.
All of this disappeared from top when I froze Google App.
To be clear, I don't use the "OK Google" always-listening function because it drains the battery quickly on my device, but I did have "OK Google" enabled on the home screen. However that shouldn't be happening with another launcher that has no (zero) widgets enabled at all.
So it shouldn't have been listening at all, but it was listening all the time. And this was apparently computationally expensive, and thus hungry for battery.
Samsung Galaxy S5, VZW, running MOAR and Xposed.
My particular issue seems to be related to the 4x3 google now widget. I can use the Google now launcher just fine, till I add that widget then a things go to hell... I really like that widget...
This same thing happened to me on my M9 starting on 2/26. It was getting seriously hot (110-120F) all the time and battery was draining at 33% an hour idle. Navigation was also very choppy and slow. Verizon actually sent me a replacement phone due to the constant over heating and factory resets. Once i got my new one I didn't restore from backup and loaded apps one by one. Sure enough as soon as the NOW widget was added, the phone slowed down and heated up.
With the widget off now for 2 days i am getting my usual 12 hours battery and the temp hasn't gone over 100 F.
Big news from my perspective. Last night I got a Google app update. Today the widget no longer slows down the phone /no more hot phone. Seems like the update fixed it for me... Time will tell.
That's why I don't use that crap! lol. Spies I tell you, spies.
Big news from my perspective. Last night I got a Google app update. Today the widget no longer slows down the phone /no more hot phone. Seems like the update fixed it for me... Time will tell.