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[Q] No JIT in DK28

So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?

avenger213 said:
So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
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I may be wrong but quadrant:
1) Isn't the best way to base performance
2) Doesn't really show improvements that JIT provides
Download linpack if you want and your score should be around a 14 or so, compared to the 8.5-9 on 2.1

Quadrant isn't a real life benchmark, and is highly flawed. Check out Quantum's "warp speed edition" ROM for proof.
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I got 1205 with stock dk28 but I have noticed others reporting lower scores. Variability in testing with a bad benchmark perhaps?

I've got 1839 lol... For some reason I doubt that's accurate

I did a quadrant test with a stock epic 2.1 and an epic on dk28 and the scores were pretty much the same every time. The major difference was that the Froyo epic ran the cpu benchmarks much faster but hung during the first I/O test. The 2.1 epic ran everything about the same speed and completed the whole test much faster than the froyo epic.

I also noticed this and posted in another thread...
to quote myself
I was getting around 8.3xx in 2.1, and now I'm getting 13.7xx in 2.2.
(I used the 1506bdf2e04b.update-SPH-D700_DI18ToDK28.zip renamed to update.zip method.)
Saw a video the other day showing a nexus 1 scoring 20+ on 1st run and 40+ on 2nd.. My friends Evo (with 2.2) scored @ 38 or so..
Quadrant still shows me well under all of the 2.2+ phones listed.
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I expected a bit more of an increase..
I too am wondering if the JIT was left out of our Froyo (if that's even possible, I'm still a total nube to andriod stuff).

What exactly is JIT, does it speed the phone up?
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Just In Time compiling...
From what I know about .Net (I'm a C# coder), it allows for compilation of the app for the specific CPU during the 1st run.
Someone please correct me if this differes from andriod's JIT...

the epic has fast computation hw between the cpu and gpu, it could be the case that the JIT benefit doesn't show in the benchmark margins.
the device is a fast one, all compared.

Do I have a quadrant lemon?

My wife got a shift on release day and i played with it all the time before I got mine yesterday. I was getting 1650 in quadrant on her shift 100% stock no temp or perm root nothing removed ... so yesterday I get my shift, root it right outta the box and kill apps and run quadrant and my highest score is 1340 did rooting it slow it down or did I get a lemon? I havend RUU'd but I factory reset a few times with the same result... on a weird note I know that some peoples phones weren't able to handle the full 1.5 OC but mine does fine and pulls 2275 in quadrant with miui...weird huh?
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I had the same drop from about 1600 to 1300 after rooting it. I always knew when I ran visionary the performance was crap. Didn't really notice any slowness, just saw the numbers from quadrant.

I will check the wifes shift when she gets home (hers is rooted now too) and see if she has the same thing.
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Mine went from 1500's to 1200's
Somethings not right
and I removed tons of bloatware, dont have much apps installed (much less than when I got 1500's)

d1msum4lyfe said:
Mine went from 1500's to 1200's
Somethings not right
and I removed tons of bloatware, dont have much apps installed (much less than when I got 1500's)
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Since rooting?
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z4root doesn't seem to be much better. I'm temprooted with z4root and just got 1328. Prerooting I /think/ it was in the 1500 range.

Weird. I've also got a drop vs unrooted stock. With current Quadrent (1.7.1) I get in the 1300's. With previous version (1.5.1) I get 1400's. Out of the box I had 1500 - 1600.
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sigh..people still use quadrant? if you don't use pro version you can't tell what exactly is dropping or where the difference is..not to mention its flawed..
Try Smartbench 2010 and/or GLBenchmark

Can we just autodelete any posts that start with "sigh"? They never contribute to the conversation.
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I still get in the 1500-1600s perm rooted, usually capping out around 1645. Only thing I didn't do was install the recovery or flash any ROMs. Just froze the apps I didn't want to see in titanium. I also deleted Visionary but that's it. Everything else was the same as before I rooted. I never used my phone in temp root mode though. I went from stock to perm root without doing any performance tests.

I'm running miui oc 1.5g and my first couple tries were in the 2200s, downloaded the new version that just came out, played with it again this morning and I've been getting around 1900, I think the new version that came out may be causing it, version 1.1.7

whoever has an older version, can they pull the apk and let those who are getting 'lower scores' try it and see if the results are the same or not

jesusice said:
Can we just autodelete any posts that start with "sigh"? They never contribute to the conversation.
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What are you talking about? I contributed in saying that you can't base your assumptions on 1 benchmark..mostly a flawed one..in his case he lost "Quadrant Score" but Quadrant Score is vague as there is CPU, IO, 2D, 3D, Memory..
so there is n way to isolate the issue..unless you either use Quadrant Pro or another benchmark...because it can also be another Flaw in Quadrant too..if not you can figure out what exactly is being effected...
But you are right, we should autodelete posts that don't contribute to the discussion..like this guy:
jesusice said:
Can we just autodelete any posts that start with "sigh"? They never contribute to the conversation.
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Cpu is down a little. But I/O and 2D are down quite a bit from when I was running the stock rom, both around half. I'm kind of curious why that is. I'm wondering if its because now I'm on the Deodexed rom and not stock maybe? On a side note I was able to get 2517 on the 1.5ghz OC kernel and Desire ROM though.

Some people know it all I guess
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gTen said:
What are you talking about? I contributed in saying that you can't base your assumptions on 1 benchmark..mostly a flawed one..in his case he lost "Quadrant Score" but Quadrant Score is vague as there is CPU, IO, 2D, 3D, Memory..
so there is n way to isolate the issue..unless you either use Quadrant Pro or another benchmark...because it can also be another Flaw in Quadrant too..if not you can figure out what exactly is being effected...
But you are right, we should autodelete posts that don't contribute to the discussion..like this guy:
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Running the same benchmark on the same phone will tell you something, though. It may not tell you exactly where, but something is suffering.
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I noticed that when I updated quadrant today, my score dropped from around a 1600 to between 1300 and 1400.

Quadrant benchmarks

Can someone explain exactly what it really means?
I know the higher the number the better your phone is working but beyond that i have no clue
I consistently get 2080 to 2250 on cm7 nightly 30 running ondemand governor min 368 max 1.3ghz. Im assuming thats respectable?
I ran it once on performance governor at 1.5ghz and got about 2500 on benchmark.
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This is the best score out of a series of three I ran right after flashing Cm6.1.1 and cranking setcpu up to max. I'm sure that this would run perfectly well at these speeds for day to day on his kernel, but I usually only run at around 1113mhz. The g2 is plenty fast on its stock 800mhz with fantastic battery life, don't get me wrong. But what the hell is the point of all this rooting and rom flashing wagoonery if I don't give myself a slight performance bump.
*Epenis waving*

At 1.5ghz max and 368 min (on-demand governor) with CM7 and Pershoot's latest kernel (I believe he incorporated the new GPU drivers), I get 2700-2800. Quadrant tests your CPU, memory, and GPU performance.
As for Quadrant I tend to find it unreliable, for benchmarks I use Smartbench 2011. Seems a bit more reasonable. Makes you realize how underpowered our GPU's is compared to the PowerVR SGX540.

And what is the gpu?
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tackleberry said:
And what is the gpu?
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GPU = Graphical processor unit
its the chip in the phone that draws polygons and renders graphics so games and graphic related things run smoothly

Thanks for that info, that's what I was thinking but wasn't positive.
I tried it on smartbench 2011 and got about a 1500.
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tackleberry said:
Thanks for that info, that's what I was thinking but wasn't positive.
I tried it on smartbench 2011 and got about a 1500.
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Got 1500 for what specifically?
Smartbench 2011 outputs 2 bars after the test. One for Productivity Index (CPU performance) and another for Gaming Index (GPU performance). Top bar is Productivity Index and bottom bar is Gaming Index.

from my understanding quadrant isn't all that accurate when it comes to benchmarking...hopefully i'm not wrong but I think it scores the phones ability to handle 2d/3d graphics, how fast it reads and write data, memory and cpu. If you are using the free version you won't be able to see how you score on each test. Even though its just numbers I can't help it...check out my latest and highest bench marks. I barely missed the 3k mark today on quadrant oc'ed to 1.8 got 2997...I just forgot to upload the screenshot.

sodvs said:
from my understanding quadrant isn't all that accurate when it comes to benchmarking...hopefully i'm not wrong but I think it scores the phones ability to handle 2d/3d graphics, how fast it reads and write data, memory and cpu. If you are using the free version you won't be able to see how you score on each test. Even though its just numbers I can't help it...check out my latest and highest bench marks. I barely missed the 3k mark today on quadrant oc'ed to 1.8 got 2997...I just forgot to upload the screenshot.
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so what kernel you're using???...
Now I just got a 2301pt at 1.5Gperformance in Quadrant Advanced

sodvs said:
from my understanding quadrant isn't all that accurate when it comes to benchmarking...hopefully i'm not wrong but I think it scores the phones ability to handle 2d/3d graphics, how fast it reads and write data, memory and cpu. If you are using the free version you won't be able to see how you score on each test. Even though its just numbers I can't help it...check out my latest and highest bench marks. I barely missed the 3k mark today on quadrant oc'ed to 1.8 got 2997...I just forgot to upload the screenshot.
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Wow the Smartbench 2011 results for Liquid Villain are impressive. Might have to give that rom a try.

I think it might I been a fluke lol the cloest I got that again 1600/2400ish.
On all the screen shoots I was using pershoots kernal
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If u want to go big use flippys turbo kernel. A phone as fast as u want, lol.
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I have used flippy's kernal and oc'ed to 1.9 and got 2997 on quandrant but smartbench score was 1900ish productivity/ 1700ish gaming...phone got a bit hot as well...with pershoots kernal I can get almost the same results and phone stays at normal temp.

I got 3158 on quadrant running CM7rc2 with pershoots .34 kernel. Oc'd to 1516 with performance governor.
Currently on CM7rc3 with pershoots .36 kernel I'm getting high 2900's.
All I know is ›3000 on quadrant is FAST!
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How do I get pershoot's latest kernel?

just over 3200+ on quadrant running the latest CM7 nightly and setting [email protected]
for quadrant, i have noticed its important to run it several times before you get an accurate measurement... personally, i've had the best score around the 3rd or 4th run.... anything more after that just plateau the score or even dips a bit at times. and kill heavy background services (ie: f/b, lookout, juice defender, DSP manager)
FYI: if i set CPU back to stock, i'm still @ 2700ish

Quadrant hasn't been updated for a long time and it is not exactly reliable when it comes to evaluating a phone's performance. You're much better off with Antutu Benchmark.
And this is almost a year old of a post

crestofawave said:
Quadrant hasn't been updated for a long time and it is not exactly reliable when it comes to evaluating a phone's performance. You're much better off with Antutu Benchmark.
And this is almost a year old of a post
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Atrix quadrant scores

Hello everyone. What's a good quadrant score for a stock 860? I have been seeing 2600-2650 on average, is this fairly common for this model? Is there a good way to prepare to take the test by closing apps, features etc?
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Ive been averaging consistent 2500 of four attempts in quadrant after the 4.1.57 update. I normally run it just after start up and I get those scores.

I achieved 2740 with 4.1.57

I've gotten around 2900 once, but it usually falls between 2650 and 2800. To be fair though Quadrant only tests a single core, if you compare it vs say an inspire on stock rom (Or probably even a custom) at stock clocks it will only get about 1900-2100. So really the Atrix gets 20%-30% better scores and it's only using 1 of 2 cores. Another thing you'd notice on the Atrix is it has nearly no slowdowns, even an Inspire running at a 1.8 OC (battery life is horrible) will bog when you install/update programs while doing something else because it's still a single core and needs to share cycles across programs where the Atrix can devote a core to all background activities and the other to what you're doing in the foreground. I didn't really notice how fast the Atrix was until I had to fix something on my girlfriends Captivate (Gave her mine when I upgraded) and she has like 25 apps and a custom rom with a 1.4 OC and OMG it felt so slow compared to my Atrix.

I got a 2774 with the gingerblur ROM. That's the best I've ever gotten and I've run it on stock, 1.52, the new update and gingerblur. Gingerblur has gotten me, by far the highest and most consistent scores of all. I usually run between 2600-2750 under normal usage, which is quite a bit.
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smartbench 2011 it said to support dual core. Have any of you run that app to see what kind of scores you get? On quadrant I get around 2400-2500.
With Smart bench I get around 2900 on productivity and around 2400 on game index

aszrael1266 said:
smartbench 2011 it said to support dual core. Have any of you run that app to see what kind of scores you get? On quadrant I get around 2400-2500.
With Smart bench I get around 2900 on productivity and around 2400 on game index
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That's about what I get, it's also funny (although not surprisingly) the single cores get obliterated except for a galaxy S because the GPU in those are amazing.

aszrael1266 said:
smartbench 2011 it said to support dual core. Have any of you run that app to see what kind of scores you get? On quadrant I get around 2400-2500.
With Smart bench I get around 2900 on productivity and around 2400 on game index
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Maybe this will interest you:
smartphonebenchmarks.com/

Hianz said:
Maybe this will interest you:
smartphonebenchmarks.com/
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I saw an Atrix running 2.3.3 in that listing. How is that possible? Faking the OS or something?

NoNameAtAll said:
I saw an Atrix running 2.3.3 in that listing. How is that possible? Faking the OS or something?
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No, you have to register in that listing. So Maybe he has registered false data. You only have to proof it with a screenshot when you are in the top 20.

i usually hit 2600-2800 on gingerblur but have hit 3000 before.

i got 2449 here

I average 2900 or so lately though I've been hitting 3000+ consistently. Im running rooted 4.1.57 pushing cpu to a constant 1ghz with setcpu. Hopefully once they get over clock we'll be on par with the xoom
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Clienterror said:
I've gotten around 2900 once, but it usually falls between 2650 and 2800. To be fair though Quadrant only tests a single core, if you compare it vs say an inspire on stock rom (Or probably even a custom) at stock clocks it will only get about 1900-2100. So really the Atrix gets 20%-30% better scores and it's only using 1 of 2 cores. Another thing you'd notice on the Atrix is it has nearly no slowdowns, even an Inspire running at a 1.8 OC (battery life is horrible) will bog when you install/update programs while doing something else because it's still a single core and needs to share cycles across programs where the Atrix can devote a core to all background activities and the other to what you're doing in the foreground. I didn't really notice how fast the Atrix was until I had to fix something on my girlfriends Captivate (Gave her mine when I upgraded) and she has like 25 apps and a custom rom with a 1.4 OC and OMG it felt so slow compared to my Atrix.
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1-what kernel were you using when this 'bog' down happened at 1.8 ghz when something was updating. cause my inspire at 1.8 ghz while downloading a file through web, and updating apps in the market will still be faster than the atrix. ive NEVER even had so much as a hiccup at 1.8 ghz on my kernel, and i just did exactly that, downloaded a file, while 4 apps were updating in the market, and at the same time opened app to qr, and the apps loaded instantly. the atrix takes a few seconds for it to load up, with nothing at all going on, with all bloat removed and only the factory default apps on it. the inspire has over 100. also, i posted this elsewhere also, testing my kernel yesterday running at 1804 mhz all day long, i got over 16 hours off a charge with 3.5 hours screen on time. screen brightness was at 100%. if it was at 50 it could have went much longer. not horrible if you ask me. the inspire with a single core doesnt lag when a live wallpaper is put on it, and i can actually type on the keyboard without having to correct errors every other word cause its lags so bad.
just another note, my inspire rom and kernel at default 1ghz (no overclock) hit 2700+ quadrant

I just got 4000 on CM7

4900 with cm7 + overclock to 1.3ghz ;P
the motoblur software and at&t crap really slows stuff down.

(MOD) Adrenaline

I seen this on one of the Samsung Forums while looking for my girlfriends phone and Root instructions.
I have not installed it yet, But will test as soon as my phone is done charging
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236779

Trying it now. Not any real noticeable difference so far. Quad scores are the same. Running G3D with Ziggys newest.
Good find tho...... maybe this could help some people out if their phone is lagging.
Thanks

I'm running liquid vigor and imo 4.1.0 @ 1.4ghz and this killed my phones performance. Quadrant scores went from around 2500 to about 1000, and linpack went from 50ish to never getting over 30.
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