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Hey guys, just curious since I havent gotten a chance to use a rooted phone yet.
-When google comes out with 2.2 froyo update, are we able to update it from a rooted rom or does it have to be under stock condition?
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
You'd probably have to wait until someone post the stock rom of froyo, and then flash that.
Or flash on of the numerous stock ROMs that already exist, and get OTA like the rest of us.
Or wait for cyan for his release which I believe will be soon after the official release.
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
This is a complete non issue. The stock 2.2 rom may very well be available to flash here before you recieve the ota if its a rolling release. If not it will be a close race. BTW, The ota looks for a stock officially signed recovery to install itself with, if you do not have one the ota will fail.
jamesyb0i said:
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
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Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
ill just wait for cyano to release its froyo version...
I'd be willing to bet that the features present in 2.2 will reach a version of CM before they reach any non-rooted N1. I'm just saying... we already have some of the features currently, i.e. customizable trackball notifications.
that really just depends on when google pushes the sources of 2.2 into AOSP. so chances are that a stock 2.2 will be available sooner than a cyanogen 2.2, but it will be worth the wait
3Shirts said:
Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
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cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
jamesyb0i said:
cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
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well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
walie said:
well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
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bazinga!!!
he tasks me, he tasks me.
but naw switched to enom's for now, miss trackball unlock but allgud/ battery heaps better
PrawnPoBoy said:
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
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That's not true. I did a warranty replacement a while back and restored the phone to stock before sending it back. I used the SAPPIMG.zip method to restore the shipping ROM, recovery, and radio. After rebooting and setting up the phone, I was offered the OTA update and the OTA completed successfully. Being bootloader unlocked did not affect my ability to get OTA updates.
A little confusion here it seems and I will throw out my understanding. An ota will work if it does not have to access an officially signed recovery, if it does and does not find one it will fail. Once you have installed a custom recovery going back to the stock one will not help in this regard because it is no longer officially signed. 2.2 will require an officially signed recovery to install and everything I read says it will be seen, it will download, then it will fail to install. If this is incorrect than I look forward to learning more about this question as it keeps popping up over and over. I have yet to hear from any owner who was able to update from 2.0 to 2.1 after having installed a custom recovery, seems like there would have been many....
Just checkin'...TIA
JC
mrchambo said:
Just checkin'...TIA
JC
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They usually release only to a few thousand at a time the first few days, then up to 10,000 a day a few days later or something like that, so you might not get it till next week if its truly coming out.
They also have typically announced the update in the Verizonwireless.com forums under the android\incredible section. Until you see it there I would consider it a rumor.
Im just wondering if we will even get the ota if we're rooted or if we will have to unroot first.
According to this, the update is for real:
w ww.droid-life.com/2010/07/16/breaking-droid-incredible-ota-update-is-go/
Oops...can't post a link yet.
hey OP, make this a poll
I've been seeing it everywhere, but haven't gotten it yet.
JTCGiants56 said:
Im just wondering if we will even get the ota if we're rooted or if we will have to unroot first.
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I second this question
Kipphh said:
I second this question
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gonna have to unroot to get updates.
EDIT: I take this back. It depends on your version. If you have an older version of software and you have not turned off notifications you will get the notification to update. If, however you're running a froyo ROM then my understanding is that you won't see the update.
Been on all the android forums today , so far nobody has gotten the update OTA.
If it was out today vzw would confirm it like they did when we got the first update.
All I heard today was a friend of a friend got the update , RIGHT !
Verizon hasn't released the "official" OTA, but there is a leaked version that people are downloading and installing. It appears to be authentic, but since not an OTA may affect future Radio updates if you install it. Plenty of info over at the Droid Forum.
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Verizon hasn't released the "official" OTA, but there is a leaked version that people are downloading and installing. It appears to be authentic, but since not an OTA may affect future Radio updates if you install it. Plenty of info over at the Droid Forum.
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Which Droid forum?
this droid forum for one thing. Check in the development section and you will see several threads with leaked ota discussing this
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I'm really anxious to get the update, but I'm going to wait for the OTA. I updated my Eris with a leaked OTA, and I ended up regretting it. It made rooting much more difficult, and stopped me from getting the final OTA.
bearmacerick said:
I'm really anxious to get the update, but I'm going to wait for the OTA. I updated my Eris with a leaked OTA, and I ended up regretting it. It made rooting much more difficult, and stopped me from getting the final OTA.
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Do you know how it stopped you from getting the final OTA? i would think if you wiped and went back to a stock ROM the network wouldn't know the difference.
Ezun said:
Do you know how it stopped you from getting the final OTA? i would think if you wiped and went back to a stock ROM the network wouldn't know the difference.
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Nope. Known issue with the Eris leak.
Well, I'm not sure if if I have the OTA or not, or just part of it.
I rooted with the original instructions, then updated everything with Unrevoked 3.1. Stock ROM installed, have working WIFI tether.
Yesterday, got a message in my notification bar that a Verizon widget was available. I can now add a new Data Usage widget to my desktop, which says "Data Usage 0.0/0 MB Estimate as of N/A". Not sure why it isn't updating, but it's possible that it's related to me having a corporate rather than a personal account.
Never got a prompt to install any OTA. Tethering still works.
Hardware version 0002, Firmware version 2.1-update1
So maybe the Verizon widget was pushed by itself without the full OTA since I don't have the standard recovery?
FYI, the OTA has been halted in favor of packaging it up with the official Android FroYo v2.2 update. So instead up two OTA's we will have one OTA to rule them all!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729749
Even better! I assume the recommendation then is to unroot?
greno1 said:
Even better! I assume the recommendation then is to unroot?
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No, the recommendation would probably be to hold your horses and wait till the OTA get's patched so we can simply upgrade without any hassle.
I haven't seen anyone else with this problem yet, so sorry about the new thread.
I have a Droid X that came straight from Verizon with 2.1, and was delivered a the day the official OTA for 2.2 went live. I always intended to run the leaked version of 2.3.15, but out of curiosity I went to the update page on the phone and asked it to check for an update just to see what it said.
It of course said that an update was available and then started a countdown saying it was going to begin the update momentarily. I hit the button to cancel the immediate update and then proceeded to go through all the steps that ended up with me having a phone running the leaked, rooted 2.3.15 version. It was supposed to be the DeOdexed version, but because I never formatted the system during the update the Odexed files remain. THAT I know how to fix.
My problem is that apparently because I "started" the OTA update process, Verizon wants to STILL update, even though I am already running the leaked 2.2. So multiple times a day now a little window pops up telling me "Download of update failed" and there is nothing I can do but back out of the window. I can't stop the update process anywhere, and if I go to the "Check for updates" window again it says "update in progress"
Anyone have any ideas short of clearing everything and starting all over again (which I will do if I have to, but this seems like an interesting unique problem that some of you might want to know about or tackle.)
Thank you
Look on your sdcard for a folder named "cache" and delete it. That MIGHT fix it. This is just a guess.
couldnt find it. any other ideas?
How about you SBF back to the 2.1 and then update to OTA 2.2 and check this thread out here for - OTA 2.2 Deodex'd
dr154 said:
How about you SBF back to the 2.1 and then update to OTA 2.2 and check this thread out here for - OTA 2.2 Deodex'd
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so if i downloaded the 2.2 ota update in rom manager i can still sbf down to 2.1? just wanna make sure its ok before i brick my phone. lemme know thanks
Hey man, I'm completely a guide-following noob here, but I've got to tell you...I'm not sure you can do that.
I know the OTA changes the bootloader, which means if you sbf back then the efuse will be triggered and brick you. I'm not sure how far the update has to go before it makes that change. It doesn't sound like it's done anything on yours, but I'd ask some more knowledgeable people here first
tdrake2406 said:
so if i downloaded the 2.2 ota update in rom manager i can still sbf down to 2.1? just wanna make sure its ok before i brick my phone. lemme know thanks
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If you have the official OTA 2.2 then no you can't downgrade back to 2.1 though the means of SBF because OTA 2.2 changes the kernel and baseband of the device which are not compatible with 2.1.
Question to everyone worried about receiving the OTA 2.2 and keeping the leaked 2.2, your getting better performance from the OTA 2.2 then the leaked 2.2 version, just my thought.
if only someone had the answer!!!!!
rooted, installed cw recovery, installed jt's superclean 0.4 DI01 ROM, what would I do when 2.2 or 2.3 comes out? will I have to wait a couple days for a updated ROM to come out for that version of android? Or would I have to go back to stock?
Wait for a ROM... Much easier than dealing with having to go back to stock just for an ota
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Wait for a ROM... Much easier than dealing with having to go back to stock just for an ota
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this. and you know very shortly after an OTA comes out, or more likely before, it will be released here in multiple flavors. so i wouldn't worry about it.
ok cool. thanks
Thanks for the info....good post. I hope its true and we see it soon. Ignore PhoenixPath he likes to shoot down anyone.... Your thread 100% belongs here.
Would it be expected to have a Froyo 2.2 rom the same day it comes out OTA if Verizon somehow keeps it from being leaked before?
Powell730 said:
Would it be expected to have a Froyo 2.2 rom the same day it comes out OTA if Verizon somehow keeps it from being leaked before?
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I would think there would at least be a rooted version out the same day. A lot of it will depend on when it is released. If it gets released late at night or during the week, it may take a little longer than if it gets released earlier in the day or on like a Friday.
Another reason not to return to stock to get an update from Verizon: The update may prevent the phone from being rooted again by patching the security loophole that we exploit to gain root.
Sent from my rooted SCH-I500 using XDA App
Ok so alot of annoying thread about the release of Froyo for Fascinate owners....beyond that wether its true or not, what if i've already flashed my phone with the DL30 rom and my phone is already in Froyo?
Will this move (if it even occurs) mess up my existing Rom?
Will i have to re-root?
Will it Wipe the already B-e-a-u-tiful setup i have??
OMG why not wait for a rom to appear that same day and flash it?
good day.
DL30 is an unofficial release of Froyo for the fascinate, by flashing it you have Froyo, if you wish to flash a new rom you will lose your "b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l" setup as you have to wipe
OMG Sorry chopper that some aren't on your "level" of Modding knowledge, next time help to the question not try to insult....
Good Day
Im refering to the OTA Verizon pushes to our phone Captain, when EA28 hit me i had no knowledge until i got a text from them saying they did....hence why i asked, would this type of OTA push affect all my questions as above?
If you're on something other than stock, you won't get the OTA.
Kevin Gossett said:
If you're on something other than stock, you won't get the OTA.
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ya know i thought the exact same thing, but i flashed my phone with DL09 and re-rooted it, set all my Titanium Backups....backup, 3 days later somehow, i had EA28 and lost root??????
DL09 was an official release. Rooting your device isn't enough to prevent the upgrade (disabling the service that checks for updates is the simplest way to do it).