K I'm tired of stock dk28 and I wanna flash a rom but they all seem to need ext4...
does ext4 format anything? What's the benefit besides "speed increase" because I'm satisfied with the speed of the phone already
I remember I had to format my sdcard to ext4 in Amon_RA and I hope its not gonna do that again lol
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It formats the internal memory of the phone to EXT4. Speed increase is not immense like some are saying.
You don't have to have EXT4 for all of the Froyo roms. I think its a little confusing to some people because most of the Froyo roms support EXT4 not Require it. For instance, Bonsai4all 1.1.3 supports EXT4 but doesn't require it. That is a nice rom if you want to try it out.
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I gotta say I'm having a different experience with EXT4. I have noticed that Angry Birds stutters now and again and so does the music. Maybe something else is wrong, dunno. I am running the apps off of the SD card but I was also using RFS.
A_Flying_Fox said:
K I'm tired of stock dk28 and I wanna flash a rom but they all seem to need ext4...
does ext4 format anything? What's the benefit besides "speed increase" because I'm satisfied with the speed of the phone already
I remember I had to format my sdcard to ext4 in Amon_RA and I hope its not gonna do that again lol
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Your system files are copied to the sdcard temporarily, the internal memory is formatted ext4, and then the data is copied back. Unless there's a problem, you won't lose any data.
Additionally, all the ROMs that use Dameon's kernel and are listed as EXT4/RFS or "dual"(Bonsai, Nebula, Quantum) will boot whether the file system is EXT4 or RFS.
sndtubes said:
I gotta say I'm having a different experience with EXT4. I have noticed that Angry Birds stutters now and again and so does the music. Maybe something else is wrong, dunno. I am running the apps off of the SD card but I was also using RFS.
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I'm having intermittent stuttering as well.
For me, ext4 has been a disappointment. I'm keeping it for now, but I haven't noticed any improvements, and if given the option of doing it again, I wouldn't bother at this point. As said above, lots of 2.2 ROMs don't require ext4, and I can't give you a reason to convert to it.
I am seing the best battery life with ext 4 since I've had froyo. Without ext 4 on froyo I was getting 20 maybe 30 hours on charge if I was lucky now with ext 4 I'm getting 48 - 55 hours. Sweeet I noticed a lil stutterng during games but boot is way faster.
Epic 4g Quantum Rom Ext 4
Electrofreak said:
Your system files are copied to the sdcard temporarily, the internal memory is formatted ext4, and then the data is copied back. Unless there's a problem, you won't lose any data.
Additionally, all the ROMs that use Dameon's kernel and are listed as EXT4/RFS or "dual"(Bonsai, Nebula, Quantum) will boot whether the file system is EXT4 or RFS.
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I was incredibly curious to try the Bonsai ROM, but I've been away from the forums for a while and missed the big hooplah over EXT4 so I know very little about it. I'm not all that interested though, and the developer's install guide specifically goes through the steps to format to EXT4 and doesn't mention it being optional and there's not a lot of info about it on the Wiki.
So I could just grab it, flash it like I would any other ROM on any other phone and be fine then? And does anyone know if I would flash the extra thing he describes in his install guide? There's no indication on whether its for EXT4 only or not.
Rom manager or flashin not working
My epic never allowed flashing of roms through rom manager or maybe im doing it wrong but i have always used odin to load dk28 or back to stock dk18..does anyone know where i can get the .md5 or .tar files of any rom out there so i can load it with odin or maybe im just ass backwards and dont know what im doing?? lol not a newb but farely new to android community
micahrodriguez7 said:
My epic never allowed flashing of roms through rom manager or maybe im doing it wrong but i have always used odin to load dk28 or back to stock dk18..does anyone know where i can get the .md5 or .tar files of any rom out there so i can load it with odin or maybe im just ass backwards and dont know what im doing?? lol not a newb but farely new to android community
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You wouldn't do it through rom manager (which is when you're booted), you would do it through clockwork mod (which is a part of rom manager). Hold camera, down volume, and power when phone is off and keep holding till you boot into recovery. (I'm sorry if I'm assuming you don't know this but when ppl say they use rom manager I don't know if they know your supposed to use recovery mode)
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I'm using Fresh 2.0d, which should have it automatically enabled, but it isn't working. I made sure my SD card was properly formatted (using recovery), but apps2sd did not work after a fresh install. pwd of /data/app also just tells me /data/app, so it is not enabled. I've got my ext partition set to ext4, if that matters. Thanks for any help, guys.
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I'm using Fresh 2.0d, which should have it automatically enabled, but it isn't working. I made sure my SD card was properly formatted (using recovery), but apps2sd did not work after a fresh install. pwd of /data/app also just tells me /data/app, so it is not enabled. I've got my ext partition set to ext4, if that matters. Thanks for any help, guys.
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ext4 doesn't work on that ROM. You need to reformat it to ext2 or ext3. I had the exact same issue and switching to ext3 made it work automagically.
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ext4 doesn't work on that ROM. You need to reformat it to ext2 or ext3. I had the exact same issue and switching to ext3 made it work automagically.
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Thanks for the quick reply! Is there a way to go from ext4 back to ext3 or will I need to reformat?
TheBiles said:
Thanks for the quick reply! Is there a way to go from ext4 back to ext3 or will I need to reformat?
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You need to backup your sdcard as it will be formatted. If you are using recovery to format the ext partition you will need to format the partition to ext2 then upgrade to ext3 then restore your sdcard.
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Thanks for the quick reply! Is there a way to go from ext4 back to ext3 or will I need to reformat?
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Reformat your card. Don't use Fresh, the author can't be trusted. Go ahead and upgrade to ext3, there's no reason not to. IMHO, ext4 should not have even been included as an option on the recovery image.
All you have to do to make a2sd work is have your card partitioned properly and use a rom that supports it. It really is that easy.
Just don't use Fresh.
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Don't use Fresh, the author can't be trusted.
Just don't use Fresh.
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LMAO, whatever. Keep your personal baseless vendettas to yourself. We all understand that Fresh kicked your ass and took your lunch money in grade school, but you need to let it go.
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LMAO, whatever. Keep your personal baseless vendettas to yourself. We all understand that Fresh kicked your ass and took your lunch money in grade school, but you need to let it go.
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Well, I don't have the slightest clue who the dude is IRL, but based on where I went to grade school, I think it's safe to say he didn't go there.
It's not a vendetta, it's not baseless, and I have no intention of letting it go. I trust the information I've been given, and I believe strongly that it's important enough that it needs to be passed along.
'Nuf said....
If someone wants to change my position on the topic, it's going to take something A LOT MORE SOLID than a few random flames on a message board....
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LMAO, whatever. Keep your personal baseless vendettas to yourself. We all understand that Fresh kicked your ass and took your lunch money in grade school, but you need to let it go.
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lol I almost pissed my pants when I read that.
subliminalurge said:
Well, I don't have the slightest clue who the dude is IRL, but based on where I went to grade school, I think it's safe to say he didn't go there.
It's not a vendetta, it's not baseless, and I have no intention of letting it go. I trust the information I've been given, and I believe strongly that it's important enough that it needs to be passed along.
'Nuf said....
If someone wants to change my position on the topic, it's going to take something A LOT MORE SOLID than a few random flames on a message board....
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subliminalurge said:
Reformat your card. Don't use Fresh, the author can't be trusted. Go ahead and upgrade to ext3, there's no reason not to. IMHO, ext4 should not have even been included as an option on the recovery image.
All you have to do to make a2sd work is have your card partitioned properly and use a rom that supports it. It really is that easy.
Just don't use Fresh.
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listen dude, no matter what your feelings are towards anyone statements like that will turn these forums to flame wars of people bickering over who betrayed who and stuff like that. These forums are a community where MOST people dont want to be bothered with troll comments like that. All im asking is for the betterment of the cdma hero community is you refrain say things like that.
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Reformat your card. Don't use Fresh, the author can't be trusted. Go ahead and upgrade to ext3, there's no reason not to. IMHO, ext4 should not have even been included as an option on the recovery image.
All you have to do to make a2sd work is have your card partitioned properly and use a rom that supports it. It really is that easy.
Just don't use Fresh.
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Nothing wrong with Fresh 2.0d. The apps2sd is different than other ROMs, but that can easily be fixed by flashing another apps2sd over it.
http://www.darktremor.com/files/misc/a2sd-2.5-signed.zip
Sorry...forgot to add that I don't think there's anything wrong with Flipzmode, either...so, I'm not sure where that comment is coming from.
Also, ext4 is an option in the kernel. The 1.5 kernels can be recompiled with ext4 support. I'm sure the 2.1 kernels can as well, if we had the source code.
now i m confused.. wich lagfix is better? in quadrant all the fix do then the 2000...
Your choice. Do you want to repartition the sd card and fiddle in cmd, or just double click a file?
The problem with the first fix is that you cant replace the card any time you want. The problem with the second fix is that if you dont have 1gb free on the phone, it wont work
Second one looks like a much better deal.
If you don't have 500mb free on your internal SC card (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's 1gb), you can always move all your personal stuff in the external SD card.
Unless of course you have filled it up with apps only (with no app2sd with Eclair), but how you would have managed to fill almost 2gb of apps is beyond me. That'd be more than 2000 apps.
What I don't know though is the long term effects. I have no idea if the fixes that are made are bad for the internal SD card. I guess you have to trust Ryan.
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Second one looks like a much better deal.
If you don't have 500mb free on your internal SC card (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's 1gb), you can always move all your personal stuff in the external SD card.
Unless of course you have filled it up with apps only (with no app2sd with Eclair), but how you would have managed to fill almost 2gb of apps is beyond me. That'd be more than 2000 apps.
What I don't know though is the long term effects. I have no idea if the fixes that are made are bad for the internal SD card. I guess you have to trust Ryan.
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what do you mean about second choise lagfix 2.0??
2.0 caused my phone to be unstable so I re-flashed and went back to the first (1GB) fix.
Are you considering mimocam's fix (using the external card) or just between Ryan and Chanfire's fixes?
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what do you mean about second choise lagfix 2.0??
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Yeah, I was talking about Ryan's Lagfix 2.3. (it's not 2.0 anymore).
I don't use either. I recommend the original fix that moves data to dbdata. I have over 70 apps installed and still plenty of space left. Using autokiller to keep free memory at 70 meg I have no lag. Currently on jm5.
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I first did it by command line with the 1Gb partition. That ran well. I then updated to Ryans 2.2 which I have been using all day. It also runs really well. Lag pretty much gone.
If i apply the one-click-LagFix it makes an virtual ext2 partition to my internal sd-card. So if i choose sometime later to undo the fix how can i delete the ext2 partition in my internal sd-card? Will it be necessary to use gparted or similar?
Bajo76 said:
If i apply the one-click-LagFix it makes an virtual ext2 partition to my internal sd-card. So if i choose sometime later to undo the fix how can i delete the ext2 partition in my internal sd-card? Will it be necessary to use gparted or similar?
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Just run the included unlagfixme.bat file. It's automated. But make sure you are running the unlagfixme for the correct version (2-2 or 2-3)
It works fine. I ran unlagfixme and flashed back to a stock ROM, tested with Quadrant and got the 900 something score again, so it does remove the lagfix.
I will note, however, that it's a very good idea to run the unlagfixme.bat before flashing to a different ROM.
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Just run the included unlagfixme.bat file. It's automated. But make sure you are running the unlagfixme for the correct version (2-2 or 2-3)
It works fine. I ran unlagfixme and flashed back to a stock ROM, tested with Quadrant and got the 900 something score again, so it does remove the lagfix.
I will note, however, that it's a very good idea to run the unlagfixme.bat before flashing to a different ROM.
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If you are flashing to any rom using odin3, there is no need to do the unlagfix at all, because the flashing would have overwritten any changes that you have made to the file system.
I often flashed my device alredy with repartition but it didnt touched my internal sd, cause my photos which are stored in the internal sd were still there after flashing. So will a firmware-flash through odin really delete the virtual ext2 partition?
Bajo76 said:
If i apply the one-click-LagFix it makes an virtual ext2 partition to my internal sd-card. So if i choose sometime later to undo the fix how can i delete the ext2 partition in my internal sd-card? Will it be necessary to use gparted or similar?
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The LagFix does not partition your internal card. A 1gb file is created upon which the ext2 filesystem is made. Then this file is mounted as a loopback device. So the UnLagFix basically moves the data back to the native internal storage directories and deletes the ext2 file, so no need to use gparted
Ok so I see people in the android area that are new to flashing not following the directions when installing roms.
They just flash roms over roms and wonder why its all messed up and blame the Devs for the issues.
So it made me what to do something about it. and here it is.
copy PACKAGE:data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db sdcard/data/mmssms.db
copy_dir PACKAGE:data/app SDCARD:/data/app
format DATA:
copy_dir PACKAGE:sdcard/data/app DATA:/app
copy PACKAGE:sdcard/data/mmssms.db DATA:/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
format CACHE:
format SYSTEM:
*now the rom will start to install*
This formats data cache and system while backing up ur text messages and apps and then transferring everything back over giving you a clean phone when installing the new rom over.
Just wanting to get things nicer for us devs.
DC13
Anything devs? ??
well i don't know what this should fix.
**DamianGTO Ultimate kernel. 350MB Ram. 600HZ. all ext2. Steam Rom. Js5**
DamianGto said:
well i don't know what this should fix.
**DamianGTO Ultimate kernel. 350MB Ram. 600HZ. all ext2. Steam Rom. Js5**
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Like I say most new users that root their phones dont follow peoples directions. They just flash roms on top of roms which can cause bugs then they blame the devs for the issues. This fixes the issue and makes people even happier cause they
1 get their text messages
2 get all their apps that have installed
and copies everything back over after
it formats the partitions
this will delete the old roms meaning devs can focus on real issues but still wont hurt those that follow the directions.
im sorry. i still dont see the use of it.
basically you copy data to sdcard and format the data and put the data back.
all errors in data will be saved.
the other format you do is in every script already. so they don't do anything to help.
so the only this can do is fixing a bad file system on data. but if the data on data is bad you still has all bad things left.
also you can use nandroid in most recovery to do the same and its also safer.
so what do you think this do?
**DamianGTO Ultimate kernel. 350MB Ram. 600HZ. all ext2. Steam Rom. Js5**
He's not copying the entire /data/data folder. He only copies the messages out, formats data, and copies the messages back.
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Read what I have posted
It copies ur text and mms messages
it also copies just ur apps nothing more just the freaking apps
than copies everything back and most roms just formate the freaking system partition
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im sorry. i still dont see the use of it.
basically you copy data to sdcard and format the data and put the data back.
all errors in data will be saved.
the other format you do is in every script already. so they don't do anything to help.
so the only this can do is fixing a bad file system on data. but if the data on data is bad you still has all bad things left.
also you can use nandroid in most recovery to do the same and its also safer.
so what do you think this do?
**DamianGTO Ultimate kernel. 350MB Ram. 600HZ. all ext2. Steam Rom. Js5**
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yes i did read. but still you use old data.
maby you fix 1 problem with it, but it still lack alot.
so all Rom only format system??? lol.
Here is a little code snippet that is used on most rom.
delete_recursive("/system");
delete_recursive("/cache");
delete_recursive("/data");
delete_recursive("/dbdata");
If you know what it is you can see what it does.
You can argue that its not FORMAT, but it almost the same.
Format do write a new info part.
Delete do mark the file delete.
in the end its the same results.
You put your old amend script and ask what people think.
When you did not get the result you wanted you start to be rude.
I ask you to explain what it does to help out when flashing a rom.
Like I see it you do this and you flash a rom that will erase all you have done.
Sure you can use a non wipe rom, but then agian you are in big trubble.
You have not make any right on the files etc...
So for if you dont explain and show how it work I would recomend people not use it..
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Dude just learn to read. I said most not all.
and if it was old data why would people not use this in their roms.
It works great in my roms so thought I would post here for other phones to start using.
dc13 said:
Dude just learn to read. I said most not all.
and if it was old data why would people not use this in their roms.
It works great in my roms so thought I would post here for other phones to start using.
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did you read a word that wrote?
all rom that do a full wipe and there is alot if them would delete all what you did copy.
so explain how it would work, for i can't see it.
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the roms I have taken a look on on the Hero, Evo, Droid, Moment, Epic, Intercept, Transform, Evo Shift, Acclaim about 50% use a format or delete and the other 50% doesn't.
This just makes sure it will get rid of the old rom
And make a fresh install.
All my roms are starting to use this and people r loving it
The only thing is this is a amend script not the edify.
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the roms I have taken a look on on the Hero, Evo, Droid, Moment, Epic, Intercept, Transform, Evo Shift, Acclaim about 50% use a format or delete and the other 50% doesn't.
This just makes sure it will get rid of the old rom
And make a fresh install.
All my roms are starting to use this and people r loving it
The only thing is this is a amend script not the edify.
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did you look on i9000 roms?
i don't say its a bad thing, but it still don't work if you use wipe rom.
fist you copy files to sdcard. then you format data. then you copy back the things you copy to sdcard.
then you take a rom and that will delete data. were you did copy to.
so i ask again. why do a extra steep that in the end is useless because you do delete all that you just copied?
just tell us when this script would work.
it will never work on a wipe rom.
**DamianGTO Ultimate kernel. 350MB Ram. 600HZ. all ext2. Steam Rom. Js5**
http://pastebin.com/YV8aV5yn
that is my update-script for my DK28 rom for the Samsung epic.
Hey all, i keep facing the same problem, while you all are talking about smooth and fast phone, mine isn't, far from that even... slow responses, it all goes so slow, even frustrating. is this normal? i really don't know, but i can't imagine my phone was like that when i bought it.
it's like a computer with insuficient RAM memory, that kinda slow.
i tried lots of roms and kernels, and the only strange thing i notice is in recovery, i can't mount /data or /cache, and i can't format them either. file systems are rtf (used 3gmod app to convert them, was ext2 before)
any ideas?
Try flashing your 2.1 stock ROM and then update with kies
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kies update
RafayelG said:
Try flashing your 2.1 stock ROM and then update with kies
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tnx, i'll try this. I remember I started using ROM's because the Kies update to froyo didn't work. but i'll try different sock roms.
system - ext4
data - ext4
cache - ext2
use auto memory manager from market for cleaning used memories automatically..
PS:its not a task killer. it conserves ur battery too..
bramw82 said:
Hey all, i keep facing the same problem, while you all are talking about smooth and fast phone, mine isn't, far from that even... slow responses, it all goes so slow, even frustrating. is this normal? i really don't know, but i can't imagine my phone was like that when i bought it.
it's like a computer with insuficient RAM memory, that kinda slow.
i tried lots of roms and kernels, and the only strange thing i notice is in recovery, i can't mount /data or /cache, and i can't format them either. file systems are rtf (used 3gmod app to convert them, was ext2 before)
any ideas?
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First do a wipe, then flash 2.1 (XXJK1) via odin, then do a wipe and flash 2.2 (XWJPS) and then do a wipe.
If You want, flash custom rom for example Kyrillos Rom v. 7.0 and for example G3MOD kernel.
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I finally got my stuff copied to my 4gb sd card. However, after installing Dorimanx Kernel 5.7 with my initrd.gz file, it wont boot at all. What am i doing wrong?
I used Linux Disk utility to create a linux swap partition.
My ROM is Hyperdroid 5.10.22
Thanks to everyone!
use cwm to do it??
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use cwm to do it??
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Yes i did. then i used Ubuntu, to get rid of the sd-ext partition as i do not want one but apparantly you must have one.
UPDATE: i got it working but now i cant restore my ****ing data back to my device. It just hangs again. This is really pissing me off..
****!! Might have something to do with sdext partition, like a script that just found it..
use fikret kernel
shanman-2 said:
****!! Might have something to do with sdext partition, like a script that just found it..
use fikret kernel
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Well i went back to my 2GB card, without the partitions. And redid everything. Now im trying this using my 4GB card.. Hoping to god it works. However, when i ran quadrant with zram installed. I didnt get any better of a reading then before. Which i should have since i have zram on.
EDIT: Well that didnt do ****. It booted but it says i have 92MB free space. I think im going back and just using it without zram. i was hoping zram would make things load faster and make it overall faster but **** all this **** lol
Yeah zram didn't help me. I'm not sure if I installed it incorrectly or something but I saw literally no difference when I flashed it. Also, didn't you at least make a CWM or Titanium Backup backup before flashing?
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Nigeldg said:
Yeah zram didn't help me. I'm not sure if I installed it incorrectly or something but I saw literally no difference when I flashed it. Also, didn't you at least make a CWM or Titanium Backup backup before flashing?
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Yeah i did, but after enabling zram and SD-ext data, i tried restoring my data from the CWM img. But then it wouldnt even boot. So now i actually just switched to dorimanx ROM and i have sd-ext which is working properly, but again my benchmark isnt much different. I really would like to know how people get such high benchmarks. I know its only the I/O that makes these high benchmarks but a high I/O is actually good when it comes to playing games. It can read the data much faster.