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possibly returning to the atrix...

Currently own a SGS2 and its an amazing phone except for a few key problems...
-battery barely gets me through the day and if it does its because i didnt use it
-gps is still prety off
Those are 2 very important things constantly buggin me. I have had the atrix before and it was pretty good for the most part even before the bootloader was unlocked.
The atrix accessories, unlocked bootloader and battery life are whats pulling me back in.
My main question is, have there been improvements made to webtop to speed it up a bit? I know there are a few threads in the dev section but whats everyones personal opinion?
please keep in mind i realize there are comparisons around however, i trust the heads in these forums more than anything.
any help is appreciated-I can still get a very good price for my sgs2 and im definitely tempted.

blunted09 said:
Currently own a SGS2 and its an amazing phone except for a few key problems...
-battery barely gets me through the day and if it does its because i didnt use it
-gps is still prety off
Those are 2 very important things constantly buggin me. I have had the atrix before and it was pretty good for the most part even before the bootloader was unlocked.
The atrix accessories, unlocked bootloader and battery life are whats pulling me back in.
My main question is, have there been improvements made to webtop to speed it up a bit? I know there are a few threads in the dev section but whats everyones personal opinion?
please keep in mind i realize there are comparisons around however, i trust the heads in these forums more than anything.
any help is appreciated-I can still get a very good price for my sgs2 and im definitely tempted.
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That's wild with the GPS, because I just threw GB 2.3.3 on my OG SGS and it's probably the best readings that I've seen on an Android phone. (even better than the Atrix)
It's kinda funny because Samsung is using a new internal GPS software called "Angry GPS".
Anywhoo... I'm back on the fence with the Atrix. I have the Bell version, but my Atrix tends to get warmer than my SGS.
Also I HATE Qhd! I've increased my density settings from 240 to 260, but now the phone won't let me use the default dialer or fingerprint reader because of that. Plus it still doesn't look as crisp and clean as a native "480 x 800" Android phone.
Here's a noob question for anyone reading this - Why can't Android allow users to customize their "display resolution" like a PC?
I know MS vs Linux, but still Android wants to "perform" like a PC why can't we customize our displays without losing features on our phones.
Personally I'd like to have "480 x 800 pixels" on ALL my future Android devices, and if people want to crank up the resolution for gaming more power to them.
This and this alone is one of my biggest reasons why I still own and use my SGS a lot, and my Atrix on and off...

I won't comment on webtop..because I rarely use mine, but I can comment on battery life. I'm running the Bell Atrix, and since unlocking BL and upgrading to 2.3.4, I found my battery life drop significantly. I went from 16+ hours with 3-4hrs of display time down to half of that..no matter which ROM i tried. From what i've gathered from posts..there seems to be something in the alarms/timers that is running in the background draining the battery.
I did notice an improved battery life when I used Alien ROM #3 with faux123's second International kernel however..but jumped on the CM7 pre-beta ROM before significantly testing it. Since getting on CM7 my battery life has been crazy good...although it currently doesn't support webtop, fingerprint scanner and a few other minor bugs (camera etc).
I realize everyone gets different results..i'm just posting to let you know as a Bell user my battery life got worse initially..On a plus note however..there is finally an app that takes advantage of the fingerprint scanner (other than just for unlock)..allowing you to use it to log into certain applications..like FB or email or Galleries..which is cool if you want to keep prying eyes away from certain things lol. It's not without a few bugs however..but it's getting there
I will say, the uniqueness of the Atrix..with the fingerprint scanner, webtop mode, etc has kept me from jumping on the SGSII bandwagon..and i'm still really enjoying this phone.

I am the type of person to lay in bed and surf the net. Im thinking the lapdock is perfect for that. Webtop wasnt the fastest before the GB update so im hoping that it has improved slightly with the update. Anyone here regularly use the webtop features?

blunted09 said:
I am the type of person to lay in bed and surf the net. Im thinking the lapdock is perfect for that. Webtop wasnt the fastest before the GB update so im hoping that it has improved slightly with the update. Anyone here regularly use the webtop features?
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I own the laptop dock. It's not as fast as I would like it to be, but it can definitely surf the internet with ease. I also use mine as an rdp client for my desktop, which runs perfect.
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PIm running 2.3.4 rooted w/ locked bootloader and im getting GREAT battery life.. after I did the following:
*downloaded battery calibration app, charge to 100% and wait till it reads 4200 mv, then calibrate.
*downloaded AntTek app manager from market (a free rom that let's you freeze bloatware without having to pay for the pro version like Titanium Backup) and I froze a huge list of blur bloatware.
* downloaded SetPcu and configured a profile to underclock the phone while the screen is off ( set the minimum and maximum to 216000 ).
*make sure my gps is turned off when im not using it
*download Advanced Task Killer from the market and set it to automatically kill idle apps upon screen shut off. I set it so my task killer icon is on the top bar of my screen, so I can easily access it and quickly clear up any useless running apps. ( i've noticed that since upgrading to 2.3.4, some apps tend to start up on their own without any distinct or reasonable trigger, so this step has really worked wonders for me.
*After this, charge to 100% and flash the battery jumping fix zip found in the dev section, and you're set to have phenomenal battery life.
On a side note, I think once cm7 is officially released, you'll see even better battery life due to the removal of Blur.
And there's my two cents on battery life. Hope it helps
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i have read that the lapdock can be sluggish at times but would overclocking the phone help? Im talking a small OC to maybe 1.2ghz.

blunted09 said:
i have read that the lapdock can be sluggish at times but would overclocking the phone help? Im talking a small OC to maybe 1.2ghz.
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I think the highest OC kernel we have atm is 1.2 (kholk's)..and from what i've heard/read the highest possible would be 1.4? Don't know for sure..just re-iterating what i've read.
Most of the stable OC kernels right now are only on a 1.1 OC..so not sure if this has improved webtop or not..

thank you for the help. I would press the thank you button but im using the old version of this website at work and there is no thank you

I have played with the SGS2 and it's a really nice phone, (huge but nice), but I love my Atrix because it allowed me to leave my heavy laptop at home.
I've been hacking the Webtop like there's no tomorrow and even unhacked, I didn't notice lags or the UI (both webtop or Android) been slow.
Obviously its not intended to replace your gaming laptop or win 3D Benchmarks by any chance, but I can say that it outperforms my daugthers Windows 7/Ubuntu Atom Netbook by a mile. Just hook up the phone and boom! You're there. (Noiseless if it wasn't enough).
These are just a few of the things I do with my Atrix/Lapdock and modded Webtop setup:
1. Work on client's websites editing and adding stuff. (Bluefish)
2. FTP in on client's and own servers. (Filezilla)
3. Edit and create photos with Photoshop quality tools (GIMP)
4. Create, read and edit Word, Powerpoint, Excell files (OpenOffice, soon LibreOffice)
5. Do lots of online research with a full blown browser (Firefox)
6. Desktop quality Social Networking.
7. Play High Quality games with nVidia graphics and QHD display.
8. Display family/work photos and HD videos on the Lapdock display or LCD/Plasma HD displays via HDMI cable (expensive cable included btw)
9. Much more...
I know that the average Joe will not be able to accomplish the above out of the box, and that fact alone could kill the concept, but I'm talking about my own experience.
Another fact to consider is price. Nowadays you can get an Atrix plus Lapdock for the price of the SGS2 alone.
Cheers and good luck on your decision, which by the way, no matter what you decide to do, it will be the best option for you.
Here's a few samples of my setup:
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Rayan
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Very impressive Rayan!

ccrows said:
Also I HATE Qhd! I've increased my density settings from 240 to 260
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You kidding me i have it set to 180 and loving it I want to have as much viewable area as i can. This plus ADW with dissappeared dock and notifications gives many many lines of text, more widget room etc. So personal preference, as is everything.
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blunted09 said:
Currently own a SGS2 and its an amazing phone except for a few key problems...
-battery barely gets me through the day and if it does its because i didnt use it
-gps is still prety off
Those are 2 very important things constantly buggin me. I have had the atrix before and it was pretty good for the most part even before the bootloader was unlocked.
The atrix accessories, unlocked bootloader and battery life are whats pulling me back in.
My main question is, have there been improvements made to webtop to speed it up a bit? I know there are a few threads in the dev section but whats everyones personal opinion?
please keep in mind i realize there are comparisons around however, i trust the heads in these forums more than anything.
any help is appreciated-I can still get a very good price for my sgs2 and im definitely tempted.
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Even though I love my Atrix, I believe the SGSII is an all around better phone. Battery life is a huge selling point for me, and my Atrix simply does not deliver. It doesn't matter what ROM, kernel, or juice defender app I use. It's just not acceptable.
Webtop is fun to show off to people, but to get full use out of it, I would have to buy a bluetooth keyboard + mouse just for the Atrix, which I can't justify.
If I have the opportunity to sell my Atrix and pick up a SGS2, I will.

I forgot to mention that for those having dialer issues after changing density settings, you just have to install Go Contacts from the Market (free) to get around the problem.
Also, high resolution displays are not for everyone. Specially in screens smaller than 4.5 inches. One has to have good eyesight for that lol...
On my workplace I have several users with high end 27+ inches lcd displays on their desktops ruining at 1024x768 (low res for that size) because of their poor eyesight lol...

Maroon Mushroom said:
Even though I love my Atrix, I believe the SGSII is an all around better phone. Battery life is a huge selling point for me, and my Atrix simply does not deliver. It doesn't matter what ROM, kernel, or juice defender app I use. It's just not acceptable.
Webtop is fun to show off to people, but to get full use out of it, I would have to buy a bluetooth keyboard + mouse just for the Atrix, which I can't justify.
If I have the opportunity to sell my Atrix and pick up a SGS2, I will.
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You do realize that the atrix has a better battery than gs2 right? My atrix lasts me about 30 hours of usage. So 1.5-2 days. Lol
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Maroon Mushroom said:
Even though I love my Atrix, I believe the SGSII is an all around better phone. Battery life is a huge selling point for me, and my Atrix simply does not deliver. It doesn't matter what ROM, kernel, or juice defender app I use. It's just not acceptable.
Webtop is fun to show off to people, but to get full use out of it, I would have to buy a bluetooth keyboard + mouse just for the Atrix, which I can't justify.
If I have the opportunity to sell my Atrix and pick up a SGS2, I will.
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You have to consider price, the Atrix + Lapdock its less expensive than an SGS2 alone.
Atrix battery has been great for me too...
Sgs2 battery is tiny in comparison to the one on the Atrix.. I'm talking about mAh obviously...

the atrix that i had could last me easily 2 days with moderate use. I have just sold the samsung for 650 and am purchasing an atrix + lapdock + multimedia dock for $500. Sounds like a deal to me.
Honestly, no matter how good a phone is, if the battery doesnt last very long its useless. Also, the atrix charges about 5 times faster.
also, i personally find 4.3 much too large to comfortably use on a daily basis. 4" is the sweet spot. I will be taking a hit in the camera department, ONLY night time shots though. In good light the atrix can hold its own. Im also an accessories guy. I think thats one of the reasons the iphone does soo well-ecosystem.
1 gb of ram like the sgs2, nvidia support for games (though the sgs2 processor is brilliant) and much louder earpiece volume and speaker.
I dont know about anyone else, but i actually enjoy webtop. I find the lapdock the perfect size and speed for night time browsing in bed and taking it on the go.

blunted09;[URL="tel:16626610" said:
16626610[/URL]]the atrix that i had could last me easily 2 days with moderate use. I have just sold the samsung for 650 and am purchasing an atrix + lapdock + multimedia dock for $500. Sounds like a deal to me.
Honestly, no matter how good a phone is, if the battery doesnt last very long its useless. Also, the atrix charges about 5 times faster.
also, i personally find 4.3 much too large to comfortably use on a daily basis. 4" is the sweet spot. I will be taking a hit in the camera department, ONLY night time shots though. In good light the atrix can hold its own. Im also an accessories guy. I think thats one of the reasons the iphone does soo well-ecosystem.
1 gb of ram like the sgs2, nvidia support for games (though the sgs2 processor is brilliant) and much louder earpiece volume and speaker.
I dont know about anyone else, but i actually enjoy webtop. I find the lapdock the perfect size and speed for night time browsing in bed and taking it on the go.
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I love Webtop at home, office and on the go...

blunted09 said:
Currently own a SGS2 and its an amazing phone except for a few key problems...
-battery barely gets me through the day and if it does its because i didnt use it
-gps is still prety off
Those are 2 very important things constantly buggin me. I have had the atrix before and it was pretty good for the most part even before the bootloader was unlocked.
The atrix accessories, unlocked bootloader and battery life are whats pulling me back in.
My main question is, have there been improvements made to webtop to speed it up a bit? I know there are a few threads in the dev section but whats everyones personal opinion?
please keep in mind i realize there are comparisons around however, i trust the heads in these forums more than anything.
any help is appreciated-I can still get a very good price for my sgs2 and im definitely tempted.
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Cool story. I made my own decision, isn't that strange?

If youre going to act like a little ***** stay out of the thread. That strange?

Considering the Nexus 4 - What are its major flaws?

I currently have a Nexus S which I have had for 2 years now. I'm considering the Nexus 4, was going for the S4 but this is half the price, and the iPhone 6 would be too far out and the iOS would not be to my liking.
I know I cannot really go wrong with the Nexus 4 - it's loved by every reviewer, and not because of its price - the price is only a bonus.
What are its major flaws? I have a few things I was curious about:
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. When your finger touches/swipes on the screen, does it behave like an iPhone 5 or the Galaxy S3/4/Note II devices? I personally like the sensitivity to your finger from the iPhone and Samsung's Galaxy devices. I don't have this in my current Nexus S but definitely would like it in my next phone.
- Battery life. Can it last 14-16 hours, with let's say, 2-3 hours of screen time or so?
- Camera. I've seen some sample pictures, was not too impressed, but as long as it's decent I'm fine.
- Headphone output? I heard the headphone output is lower than other devices from a video. Not sure if significant.
That's all for now. :good:

Just wait for the Nexus 5. Only 3-4 months away.

Tbh I've considered that, but it'll be announced in October, released in December, and if I want it with my carrier it'll probably hit in perhaps March/April of 2014, unless I choose to buy it from the Play Store.
I also heard it packs in a lot, and I think Google's going to price it high this time around. Either way, my current carrier is offering the N4 16GB for only $300 outright. So its price seems lower than market value, and it for some reason is hard for me to wait.

I upgraded from by Galaxy S (Same as the Nexus S) in Feb.
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. I would say the same, hard to notice the difference.
- Battery life. 5+ hrs on screen time with WiFi on (I dont have data so thats not in use). It was a definate improvement from Galaxy S.
- Camera. There is a mod floating around that allows you to get better quality pictures at the cost of a larger file size.
- Sound. NOTHING beat Galaxy S's sound chip. I was disappointed a bit here.
- Overall animation/fluidity/framerate. Stock android on N4, even the most overclocked Galaxy S with the most slimmed rom cannot come close to these speeds.
- Size. I like smaller phones that fit into my pocket easier. Galaxy S wins here but thats a personal choice. HD videos play exactly to scale on the N4, you just feel immersed.
- Physical features. You can't drop it, glass on both sides, bumpers/cases probably won't do anything. It's also heavier. No removable battery or SD card. I made the mistake of getting the 8GB, dont. Doesn't feel plasticky/cheap like the Galaxy S.
ROM support is very nice here, I think it's just as good as when Galaxy S was in it's prime.
You have to get it, try getting it through your provider ($300 in canada for the 16Gb via koodo whereas $366 shipped from goolge for the 8Gb)

OnlySkills said:
Tbh I've considered that, but it'll be announced in October, released in December, and if I want it with my carrier it'll probably hit in perhaps March/April of 2014, unless I choose to buy it from the Play Store.
I also heard it packs in a lot, and I think Google's going to price it high this time around. Either way, my current carrier is offering the N4 16GB for only $300 outright. So its price seems lower than market value, and it for some reason is hard for me to wait.
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Buying from Play Store is better anyway, at least for T Mobile USA.
What can the Nexus 4 do that your Nexus S can't? The Nexus 5 will be even better than the Nexus 4 on all scales. It is rumored to be based off the LG G2 which will have stereo speakers, bigger screen, improved camera, and much more. Maybe even launched with Key Lime Pie(?)
Just wait for it.

1. Low earpiece/mic
2. Camera speed slower than GN, need to be very steady for HDR
3. Storage can be challenging to manage, we need 32/64 nexus...
4. MTP is slow in general, and touchscreen goes crazy when charging from my PC
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Ace42 said:
1. Low earpiece/mic
2. Camera speed slower than GN, need to be very steady for HDR
3. Storage can be challenging to manage, we need 32/64 nexus...
4. MTP is slow in general, and touchscreen goes crazy when charging from my PC
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My touchscreen never goes crazy when charging from a PC.

i had a nexus s for long time, loved that thing. yes, it does have great sound, especially with voodoo, but the nexus s is merely a childs toy compared to the nexus 4. heck, the galaxy nexus was a large step from the nexus s. you will love the nexus 4. coming from two samsung phones in a row(ns and gnex), i first thought that not having a plastic back was the nexus 4s' major flaw, but now i dont mind
oh, and some photos, all hdr mode..
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Touch sensitivity is quite good for an android device similar to the nexus s, but the nexus 4 has lower touch sensitivity than it is capable of because of the touchscreen drivers, this problem has supposedly been fixed in the upcoming android 4.3 update but honestly touch response is very good you won't have a problem.
As for battery expect 4-5 hours sot on WiFi and 3-4 hours on 3g.
Photos in good lighting conditions are quite good but in low light its another story so if you take pictures in good light you'll be okay.
I find the sound output to be fairly reasonable its quite loud I don't think you'll have a problem with it unless you need to drive something huge with a high impedance, for normal headphones/earphones its loud enough.

Roastmeat said:
I upgraded from by Galaxy S (Same as the Nexus S) in Feb.
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. I would say the same, hard to notice the difference.
- Battery life. 5+ hrs on screen time with WiFi on (I dont have data so thats not in use). It was a definate improvement from Galaxy S.
- Camera. There is a mod floating around that allows you to get better quality pictures at the cost of a larger file size.
- Sound. NOTHING beat Galaxy S's sound chip. I was disappointed a bit here.
- Overall animation/fluidity/framerate. Stock android on N4, even the most overclocked Galaxy S with the most slimmed rom cannot come close to these speeds.
- Size. I like smaller phones that fit into my pocket easier. Galaxy S wins here but thats a personal choice. HD videos play exactly to scale on the N4, you just feel immersed.
- Physical features. You can't drop it, glass on both sides, bumpers/cases probably won't do anything. It's also heavier. No removable battery or SD card. I made the mistake of getting the 8GB, dont. Doesn't feel plasticky/cheap like the Galaxy S.
ROM support is very nice here, I think it's just as good as when Galaxy S was in it's prime.
You have to get it, try getting it through your provider ($300 in canada for the 16Gb via koodo whereas $366 shipped from goolge for the 8Gb)
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You can drop it with a bumper on and screen protectors. I dropped mine onto concrete and accidentally stepped on it. Lol its perfectly fine except for the scratch on my screen protector
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Gets extremely hot when gaming. I'm not sure whether this causes damage, but it makes me sweat on the device.
Both 3G and Wifi have connection issues. This may be fixed in software, but I'm not sure.
Speaker sound isn't as good as some other phones.
Being totally flat, it sits flush on a surface and the speaker is covered, muting notification sounds.
Being made of glass, there's twice as much breakable surface.

I upgraded my Nexus S for the N4 about the time it launched, so I know how slow it must be getting.
While its not perfect, I wouldn't trade it for anything on the market. It's a nexus device, which has the major benefit of being the first to be updated and having more stable ROMs, which you will miss from other devices.
The battery is not as good as I would have hoped for, but it will get me through the day as long as I'm not using it constantly. With mobile data on, I can get 2 hours of SOT (Screen on Time) if I wasn't playing games.
On the topic of the screen, I can tell you that the stock color calibration is extremely washed out. It's a good screen, they just botched the calibration. I remember looking at it for the first time and being really disappointed because of the faded look of colors like blue. This is something that is easily fixed by a non-stock kernel like Franco's Kernel, which is the one I use. The calibration I have right now looks amazing.
While the headphone output is quiet by the standards of most phones, I don't notice it unless I plug it into something like external speakers, or my car.
Also, it's probably worth noting that the 4.3 update that was leaked yesterday is supposed to drastically improve touch sensitivity.
and I would probably wait until at least the 24th of July on the off chance that Google announces lower pricing or a higher capacity version.

Touch Pretty darn smooth. Without a screen protector that is. But even with a sp you'll be able to swipe like no other. Response is top notch and definitely on par with new released phones. (Just my opinion)
Battery If you're a heavy user the battery might slack. If you're an addict, don't get this phone lol. But if you're able to balance data / running apps / screen time / etc. this phone will be perfect. (Choose the right rom & kernel, or just stay stock with a nice kernel)
Camera I don't use it that much but its alright, not the best out there. If you're some fancy photographer I doubt you'll be satisfied. But still takes pretty nice pictures as long as you take it right
Headphone I literally listen to music all day if I'm out of my house. No doubt the output is nice and clear, but it all depends on what type of headphones you're using.
This phone isn't a super computer. It lags when it needs to and produces slight flaws as you use it. But then again, what electronic doesn't
In the end, it all depends on the user's preferences. But if anything, I'd recommend waiting for the N5.

One of the most annoying things about the N4 is undoubtedly the fact that notifications etc cannot be heard when the phone lies flat with the screen up. Many calls have been missed due to this fact...

lazer155 said:
My touchscreen never goes crazy when charging from a PC.
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When I touch in one spot it reacts like I hit another location.

I have to say, it is SLIPPY. It slips off everthing, even when i think its a flat surface!

OnlySkills said:
I currently have a Nexus S which I have had for 2 years now. I'm considering the Nexus 4, was going for the S4 but this is half the price, and the iPhone 6 would be too far out and the iOS would not be to my liking.
I know I cannot really go wrong with the Nexus 4 - it's loved by every reviewer, and not because of its price - the price is only a bonus.
What are its major flaws? I have a few things I was curious about:
- Screen touch sensitivity/fluidity. When your finger touches/swipes on the screen, does it behave like an iPhone 5 or the Galaxy S3/4/Note II devices? I personally like the sensitivity to your finger from the iPhone and Samsung's Galaxy devices. I don't have this in my current Nexus S but definitely would like it in my next phone.
- Battery life. Can it last 14-16 hours, with let's say, 2-3 hours of screen time or so?
- Camera. I've seen some sample pictures, was not too impressed, but as long as it's decent I'm fine.
- Headphone output? I heard the headphone output is lower than other devices from a video. Not sure if significant.
That's all for now. :good:
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Do u run custom Roms/kernels on the nexus s?
If you want the same experience x100 then the nexus 4 is for u.
I went from a nexus s to a nexus 4 and I'm more than happy. Android + iOS smoothness.
Flaws:
The touchscreen unresponsiveness is not major (very soft touches don't register sometimes) and it is remedied with either a custom kernel in 4.2.2 or with the upcoming 4.3 (new touchscreen driver).
Screen colors are a bit washed, but with the same solutions as above screen is beautiful.
The phone is made of glass, so it is not as resilient to falls as the nexus s.
Some people experience notification delays on specific WiFi routers. Never had such problem myself.
The phone tends to get hot when in mobile network or under heavy use (because its glass). Can be solved with custom kernels, undervolting/underclocking (this is the most tweakable phone ever).
No issues with audio.
Camera is good. Not the best, but acceptable quality.
Battery life is typically between 4 to 6 hours screen on time, on WiFi, which is pretty good in my opinion.
P.s. this phone offers the smoothest android experience from every other phone I put my hands on.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

urmothersluvr said:
You can drop it with a bumper on and screen protectors. I dropped mine onto concrete and accidentally stepped on it. Lol its perfectly fine except for the scratch on my screen protector
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I dropped mine without bumper and just got a few scratches
btw is an awesome phone

I wouldn't wait for n5 as it's rumored to have a 5" screen which I feel is too large.
Here's a pic I took with the phone
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Overdose1986 said:
I dropped mine without bumper and just got a few scratches
btw is an awesome phone
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dropped my 4 times because it keeps slipping down the table only slight scratch on the back glass
only around 2-3 ft

Moto X Pros/Cons IMO

Moto X Cons/Pros IMO
Hi, this can be a base for new Moto X users coming from other smartphones.
Pros
1. Moto X has one of the smoothest and fastest Android experience you'll have with any smartphone today.
If you're coming from a non-nexus smartphone, you'll definitely feel that. Everything just works in Moto X. It's the smartphone with the nearest experience of an iPhone in terms of speed and smoothness.
2. Moto X feels great in hand. It has the perfect size for a smartphone.
3. Screen size is perfect, you can reach every corner without a hassle.
Although some users might feel the difference coming from a bigger screen, you'll definately get used to it in no time.
4. Good materials, it feels like you're holding a really well made product. Not just plastic stuff.
5. Twist to fast access to camera is great.
I'm still getting used to it, but accessing the camera without even touching the screen is very handy. I thought it would be too much of a hassle to do that movement every time, but it turns out you get used to it very fast, and that's pretty easy.
6. Touchless Control.
Although it's almost useless here in Brazil, I'll include that because is it's really useful for the main languages that it includes. I still use it to showoff though. :victory:
7. The speaker is one of the best I've listened so far.
It's one of the loudest, its quality is pretty good. Basses are good too.
8. Battery life is superb.
It lasts for your entire day and even a little bit more. Compared to my last phone, a S3, I can really feel the difference.
9. Battery charges really fast.
Within 2 hours or so, my Moto X charges from 0% to 100% with stock wall charger. Considering its battery time, it's an amazingly fast charge: 2 hours charge for a 24h+ usage. My S3 used to charge in 5h+
10. Fast updates.
This is not something that will certainly happen, but it seems Motorola is committed to bring us Android OS updates and improvements updates really quickly. Although it has not been released for my Moto X here in Brazil yet, it's been released for the Moto X faster than the Nexus devices. Let's hope they keep it like that for some years, and not just because it's the momentum smartphone.
11. Active Notifications.
The best thing invented after the wheel, don't have to say anything about this.
Cons
1. Onscreen buttons takes too much space.
Although Moto X screen size is perfect, its virtual buttons takes a lot of that space, and you might feel a big hit when coming from a 4.8/5" phone that has its entire dedicated screen.
2. Camera is terrible.
Coming from a S3, I definitely felt a big hit here. Camera takes a big time to shoot photos; it takes too long to focus; it takes pics with different tonality every time, it's even hard to shoot 2 similar photos from 2 different angles. Below is an example of that.
Camera software is not the best aswell. We don't have night mode, quality/px choice, effects, and so on.
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Those 2 pics are not edited and were shot with the Moto X camera in practically the same moment.
3. Touchless Control doesn't work everywhere.
For example in Brazil, not all the commands are available and it's just useful to call for someone and check weather predictions. Despite using it to call for someone, we don't get audio feedback for any of the commands.
4. Too thin for 2 hands usage?
That's a real real personal thought, but although Moto X has the perfect size for a one-hand feel, I'm really having a hard time typing in the keyboard and I wouldn't blame if it was a little wider. The phone is thinner than the S3, that I used to rest both hands and type, and wider than a smartphone that we can rest one hand and use the other sidewards.
But I'm really sure it's something I'll get used to within some time.
5. No sdcard slot.
I'm yet to see if this will be really a down vote to me on Moto X, but at least in my old S3, I had to use a 16gb sdcard to store some extra musics and pics. The default 16gb was not sufficient.
Well, that's it. It's a really great phone and it was for sure a great improvement coming from a S3. I do miss S3's camera and physical buttons, but despite that and the listed above, there's nothing else I can blame this phone for.
Feel free to add your own opinions, cons and pros.

I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
Sent from my Nexus 7

Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.

I've added 1 item to the con and 1 to the pros that I forgot to mention.

Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
Sent from my Nexus 7
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I used a demo at the store (one had kitkat and one didn't), and the kitkat one was SO much better. I think this camera really competes with the other flagships now.
dicarli said:
Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.
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He means Kitkat i think.

@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
Sent from my XT1056 using xda app-developers app

barondebxl said:
@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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I'm not sure if the S3 boot loader is locked aswell, but we had a lot more hacks, mods and roms to use/test on the S3 than o the Moto X.
EVOSerb said:
Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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It was my GF actually. I shall ask to her how she cooked that

Please do ask. Now just to find the one for my self that will cook like that LOL.
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Tottaly agree! Mostly in the voice commands, in Brasil is not useful like in the US
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Thanks OP for sharing your experience. I'd just like to elaborate on the design.
I don't really quite know how to summarize my idea, but the emphasis on user experience is so great, it's borderline criminal, and it's easily the most understated feature of the Moto X. The texture of the back feels extremely wonderful to hold that doesn't feel like cheap plastic nor cold hard aluminium. The contours (?) of the phone is curved in such a way that feels absolutely comfortable - I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola took the palm/hand profiles of many people and designed the back with it. In conjunction with that, the buttons are positioned well enough to allow me to reach for them whenever I need it. And that dent on the back cover! My finger now gravitates to that point to get a solid grab on the phone. _Finally_ I have a phone that doesn't have to depend on aluminium for that premium feel, or worse still, give UX design a middle finger and design a pile of manure (*coughsamsungcough*) for use.
I was really pleasantly surprised to find out for myself how good the speaker was. It's loud, but distortion is hardly noticeable at maximum volume. (Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I suppose I get a bit too excited. heh) The camera's been improving steadily, thankfully, but it could use more repairs. I would appreciate it very much if I could take photos faster - the idea of twist-to-camera is kinda wasted on a slow-responding camera like this.
I have friends using the Nexus 5 beside me, and in all honesty I don't feel like I'm missing out on much. Then again, I paid a bloody premium for the phone . But seriously speaking, no regrets. At all. If I had to make the decision all over again, I'd still shoot for the Moto X. Never mind that there's no support for LTE in Malaysia or Singapore (I alternate between these two countries most frequently), or that the SD card slot is missing. I have not been so contented with a purchase in a very, very long time.

For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger

sravanz said:
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.

sravanz said:
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.
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I believe a member is working on making it work on his in the accessories section.

What are the chances of a QI case being released? I would be all for that.
Cannot believe incipio decided to make a powermat charging case... WHO USES POWERMAT!?

My biggest and only real complaint about the Moto X is the camera. It does not feel like it matches up to even some 2011 phone cameras.

Nice Article.
I'm loving my Moto X 'Argentina Edition' (no root yet ).
On the 'Cons 4' section I swipe a lot, and never again hold my phoine with 2 hands
While driving I can text with the mic, not sure on portuguese, but spanish works great!

OK Google Now
is so much more sensitive in 4.4. I'm using the nexus 5 gel and my phone is constantly beeping and googling my last few words. Kinda strange

I'm still on 4.2.2 but I would have to say the camera, the smaller screen size, and the color saturation of the screen.
I bought a nexus 5 earlier this month and switch between the two phones all the time. {Google apps sync everything} and those would be my main complaints. Obviously the screen size is completely subjective, but I much prefer the n5 screen. I do like the battery life, but I usually have a charger at work and at home, and both phones seem to give me more than acceptable battery life.
The biggest complaint I have is the lack of accessories, cases and screen protectors for it.
I also would like our Canadian carriers to hurry up with the 4.4 updates.
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My mini S6 review!

Hello!
Just wanted to make a quick mini review of my S6. Received it yesterday around 5:30 pm after waiting all day impatiently for UPS to show up haha . I chose the 32g white model, primarily cause I'm not a super heavy user so I don't need a ton of extra space, as well as it doesn't show fingerprints as much as the darker colors. Right now it's sitting in a white Spigen feather case. Here's pics (images taken with a Blackberry Z30 that I don't use anymore lol):
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I'll just keep this review super simple and to the point:
Screen: Amoled has definitely come a long way. Beautiful screen, good color reproduction using the basic setting, good brightness levels. Overall, it rocks. :good:
Build: Feels nice in the hand. Coming from an Iphone 6, it definitely feels as premium. Beware the fingerprints though haha, you will get them all over!
Camera: Not even going to lie, I don't know a damn thing about photography so I'm not going to pretend that I do. It takes great photos, but then again I personally felt that the Iphone 6 camera was good for what little photography I do, so I'd say look at other reviews for more in depth info about that topic.
Quick sample photos. Everything set to auto. No changes made to the photos:
Fingerprint Scanner: Never used the one from the previous Samsung phones, but coming from the Iphone 6, it works just as well. Registered four different prints, and it hasn't messed up once. :good:
Software: I appreciate Samsung's toning down of Touchwiz. At this point, since I haven't been on Android for awhile, I'm still getting use to the UI overall. Definitely appreciate the ability to install themes.
Reception/Service: Don't see any issues here. Sounds good when on phone calls and the reception seems on par with what I was getting with my Iphone 6.
Some things I've found so far that I'm not a fan of: None of these have anything to do with the hardware of the phone really. These are just a few annoyances that I haven't been able to fix just yet.
I can't seem to find any settings to adjust the lights for the capacitive buttons. As such, it's really annoying to use at night since every time you touch the screen, they light up for a second and a half and then disappear again. If anyone knows how to adjust the time or completely turn them off, please let me know. The only setting I've found that disables the lights is power saving mode.
The second thing I don't like is that both the stock Samsung web browser, and Chrome, don't have settings for full screen mode. I don't like having the status bar sitting at the top all the time. Call my crazy, I'm afraid of screen burn in with Amoleds .
At any given time, a high amount of RAM is always in use, and I honestly haven't installed many apps. I just checked right now, and my phone sitting idle is at 77% of RAM in use. I have 1 push gmail, and that's about it. No apps are running. I don't use any social media at all, and all of the bloat of the phone is disabled.
When I open the stock battery app, I cannot find 'screen' listed under the usage tab. As such, I don't know how I can test what my SOT will be on charges. (I know SOT is subjective and can vary greatly depending on use, but it'd still be helpful to have it listed regardless.
Don't really know what else to say at this point. If anyone has any questions or anything, let me know. Overall, I'm definitely enjoying the phone, and I'm super glad to be back on Android. :good:
Cheers,
-Matt

Thanks for sharing!
One point about the ram usage: don't bother looking at it. On almost every android phone you will have high consumption, regardless if the phone has 1/2/3/99 gigs of ram. Simply the more ram you have, the more applications will remain open. The fact that you consumption is around 77% means absolutely nothing - just enjoy your phone

derWolf_ said:
Thanks for sharing!
One point about the ram usage: don't bother looking at it. On almost every android phone you will have high consumption, regardless if the phone has 1/2/3/99 gigs of ram. Simply the more ram you have, the more applications will remain open. The fact that you consumption is around 77% means absolutely nothing - just enjoy your phone
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Yea, I'm gonna try and just ignore it unless I start having a bunch of like redraws or something when switching between apps. Thanks for the input! :good:
-Matt

Roflwafflez said:
Hello!
Just wanted to make a quick mini review of my S6. Received it yesterday around 5:30 pm after waiting all day impatiently for UPS to show up haha . I chose the 32g white model, primarily cause I'm not a super heavy user so I don't need a ton of extra space, as well as it doesn't show fingerprints as much as the darker colors. Right now it's sitting in a white Spigen feather case. Here's pics (images taken with a Blackberry Z30 that I don't use anymore lol):
I'll just keep this review super simple and to the point:
Screen: Amoled has definitely come a long way. Beautiful screen, good color reproduction using the basic setting, good brightness levels. Overall, it rocks. :good:
Build: Feels nice in the hand. Coming from an Iphone 6, it definitely feels as premium. Beware the fingerprints though haha, you will get them all over!
Camera: Not even going to lie, I don't know a damn thing about photography so I'm not going to pretend that I do. It takes great photos, but then again I personally felt that the Iphone 6 camera was good for what little photography I do, so I'd say look at other reviews for more in depth info about that topic.
Fingerprint Scanner: Never used the one from the previous Samsung phones, but coming from the Iphone 6, it works just as well. Registered four different prints, and it hasn't messed up once. :good:
Software: I appreciate Samsung's toning down of Touchwiz. At this point, since I haven't been on Android for awhile, I'm still getting use to the UI overall. Definitely appreciate the ability to install themes.
Reception/Service: Don't see any issues here. Sounds good when on phone calls and the reception seems on par with what I was getting with my Iphone 6.
Some things I've found so far that I'm not a fan of: None of these have anything to do with the hardware of the phone really. These are just a few annoyances that I haven't been able to fix just yet.
I can't seem to find any settings to adjust the lights for the capacitive buttons. As such, it's really annoying to use at night since every time you touch the screen, they light up for a second and a half and then disappear again. If anyone knows how to adjust the time or completely turn them off, please let me know. The only setting I've found that disables the lights is power saving mode.
The second thing I don't like is that both the stock Samsung web browser, and Chrome, don't have settings for full screen mode. I don't like having the status bar sitting at the top all the time. Call my crazy, I'm afraid of screen burn in with Amoleds .
At any given time, a high amount of RAM is always in use, and I honestly haven't installed many apps. I just checked right now, and my phone sitting idle is at 77% of RAM in use. I have 1 push gmail, and that's about it. No apps are running. I don't use any social media at all, and all of the bloat of the phone is disabled.
When I open the stock battery app, I cannot find 'screen' listed under the usage tab. As such, I don't know how I can test what my SOT will be on charges. (I know SOT is subjective and can vary greatly depending on use, but it'd still be helpful to have it listed regardless.
Don't really know what else to say at this point. If anyone has any questions or anything, let me know. Overall, I'm definitely enjoying the phone, and I'm super glad to be back on Android. :good:
Cheers,
-Matt
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Well , thanks to share your thoughts ! I have right now the iPhone 6 and I'm thinking to upgrade to Galaxy s6 edge I watched lot of reviews and like the phone. Like you coming from iPhone 6 it's worth the upgrade ? I used to have the Galaxy s3 years before. Thanks again !
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edyfrances said:
Well , thanks to sure your thoughts ! I have right now the iPhone 6 and I'm thinking to upgrade to Galaxy s6 edge I watched lot of reviews and like the phone. Like you coming from iPhone 6 it's worth the upgrade ? I used to have the Galaxy s3 years before. Thanks again !
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No prob! Honestly, it's hard to tell. In my honest opinion, the S6 and the Iphone 6 are both great devices in different ways. It really just depends on what you're looking for in a phone. Personally, I wanted to get back to the customization side, so the switch was an easy choice. :good:
-Matt

Nice write up man. It is nice to se what phones people are coming from to get the right perspective.

Don't ever worry about the burn in anymore

Maknora said:
Don't ever worry about the burn in anymore
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And why would you say that? The burn-in problem of the AMOLED displays is still very, very likely to occur. I've seen massive burn-ins on the Note 4, which has basically the same display as the S6.

derWolf_ said:
And why would you say that? The burn-in problem of the AMOLED displays is still very, very likely to occur. I've seen massive burn-ins on the Note 4, which has basically the same display as the S6.
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Any input on ways to avoid burn in (besides the obvious I mean hehe)? Specifically it's that damn status bar. Everything else changes pretty regularly, but that thing is always there .
-Matt

Roflwafflez said:
Any input on ways to avoid burn in (besides the obvious I mean hehe)? Specifically it's that damn status bar. Everything else changes pretty regularly, but that thing is always there .
-Matt
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Now with Lollipop the status bar isn't such a big problem, because it constantly changes colors. In kitkat and with older versions it was a problem, as it was constantly black (or color close to black).
But I'd suggest rooting, xposed and force immersive mode.

derWolf_ said:
Now with Lollipop the status bar isn't such a big problem, because it constantly changes colors. In kitkat and with older versions it was a problem, as it was constantly black (or color close to black).
But I'd suggest rooting, xposed and force immersive mode.
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Thanks. I'll definitely look into rooting and all that for this device. Haven't messed with any of that stuff in awhile lol :good:.
-Matt

I had all 4 notes never had any problem with burnin. I'm not quite sure I had it with my s2 it was ages ago lol

I have one favor to ask though
Can you please install all the apps you use (and possibly some that you won't use, but just for the sake of testing), take a few hundred pictures and tell us if the phone feels as snappy as it did at the beginning?
When I played with the phone in a store I thought this was the fastest Android phone ever produced (without exaggerating even a tiny bit), but since it Samsung we are talking about, I have fears that after having all your stuff on the phone, the device's performance will suffer greatly.
@avenging - the fact that it didn't happen to you (which is great) doesn't mean that the technology doesn't suffer the issue. I have personally seen at least 3 units of the Note 4 with burn ins. Just go to your local electronics shop and check the Note 4. I can almost guarantee that it will have some degree of burn-ins.

derWolf_ said:
I have one favor to ask though
Can you please install all the apps you use (and possibly some that you won't use, but just for the sake of testing), take a few hundred pictures and tell us if the phone feels as snappy as it did at the beginning?
When I played with the phone in a store I thought this was the fastest Android phone ever produced (without exaggerating even a tiny bit), but since it Samsung we are talking about, I have fears that after having all your stuff on the phone, the device's performance will suffer greatly.
@avenging - the fact that it didn't happen to you (which is great) doesn't mean that the technology doesn't suffer the issue. I have personally seen at least 3 units of the Note 4 with burn ins. Just go to your local electronics shop and check the Note 4. I can almost guarantee that it will have some degree of burn-ins.
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I can certainly give it a try!
-Matt

Roflwafflez said:
I can certainly give it a try!
-Matt
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And when you look into that, make sure you note your remaining space leftover.
It's fairly well-known that devices grow more sluggish as their storage fills up, so with the 32GB unit you'd have the easiest time seeing at approximately what % of space is remaining when the "threshold" is crossed and the device slows down a bit.
Frankly, it should be pretty hard to get the device to exhibit this behavior due to the UFS 2.0 within the device, but it probably does still happen to some extent.
This is actually relatively important to know because people sometimes exclude the necessity of having "empty" space for a device to perform at its best, and they often end up making a purchase decision without factoring that into their decision and regretting it down the road.
So on that note, the sake of Galaxy S6 science depends on you!

Let us know how that battery life is! That's the only thing I am worried about with this phone.

Poetique said:
And when you look into that, make sure you note your remaining space leftover.
It's fairly well-known that devices grow more sluggish as their storage fills up, so with the 32GB unit you'd have the easiest time seeing at approximately what % of space is remaining when the "threshold" is crossed and the device slows down a bit.
Frankly, it should be pretty hard to get the device to exhibit this behavior due to the UFS 2.0 within the device, but it probably does still happen to some extent.
This is actually relatively important to know because people sometimes exclude the necessity of having "empty" space for a device to perform at its best, and they often end up making a purchase decision without factoring that into their decision and regretting it down the road.
So on that note, the sake of Galaxy S6 science depends on you!
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Haha, maybe I should defer this project to someone who is better capable lol.
-Matt

Burn In on Note 4? I had one since day it was launched, have no idea what your talking about. I sold it a week ago and am using iphone 6 right now until s6 Comes. I notice a lot of differences in note and iphone. Iphone is so slow for me. Can't wait to get s6.

Roflwafflez said:
Hello!
Just wanted to make a quick mini review of my S6. Received it yesterday around 5:30 pm after waiting all day impatiently for UPS to show up haha . I chose the 32g white model, primarily cause I'm not a super heavy user so I don't need a ton of extra space, as well as it doesn't show fingerprints as much as the darker colors. Right now it's sitting in a white Spigen feather case. Here's pics (images taken with a Blackberry Z30 that I don't use anymore lol):
I'll just keep this review super simple and to the point:
Screen: Amoled has definitely come a long way. Beautiful screen, good color reproduction using the basic setting, good brightness levels. Overall, it rocks. :good:
Build: Feels nice in the hand. Coming from an Iphone 6, it definitely feels as premium. Beware the fingerprints though haha, you will get them all over!
Camera: Not even going to lie, I don't know a damn thing about photography so I'm not going to pretend that I do. It takes great photos, but then again I personally felt that the Iphone 6 camera was good for what little photography I do, so I'd say look at other reviews for more in depth info about that topic.
Quick sample photos. Everything set to auto. No changes made to the photos:
Fingerprint Scanner: Never used the one from the previous Samsung phones, but coming from the Iphone 6, it works just as well. Registered four different prints, and it hasn't messed up once. :good:
Software: I appreciate Samsung's toning down of Touchwiz. At this point, since I haven't been on Android for awhile, I'm still getting use to the UI overall. Definitely appreciate the ability to install themes.
Reception/Service: Don't see any issues here. Sounds good when on phone calls and the reception seems on par with what I was getting with my Iphone 6.
Some things I've found so far that I'm not a fan of: None of these have anything to do with the hardware of the phone really. These are just a few annoyances that I haven't been able to fix just yet.
I can't seem to find any settings to adjust the lights for the capacitive buttons. As such, it's really annoying to use at night since every time you touch the screen, they light up for a second and a half and then disappear again. If anyone knows how to adjust the time or completely turn them off, please let me know. The only setting I've found that disables the lights is power saving mode.
The second thing I don't like is that both the stock Samsung web browser, and Chrome, don't have settings for full screen mode. I don't like having the status bar sitting at the top all the time. Call my crazy, I'm afraid of screen burn in with Amoleds .
At any given time, a high amount of RAM is always in use, and I honestly haven't installed many apps. I just checked right now, and my phone sitting idle is at 77% of RAM in use. I have 1 push gmail, and that's about it. No apps are running. I don't use any social media at all, and all of the bloat of the phone is disabled.
When I open the stock battery app, I cannot find 'screen' listed under the usage tab. As such, I don't know how I can test what my SOT will be on charges. (I know SOT is subjective and can vary greatly depending on use, but it'd still be helpful to have it listed regardless.
Don't really know what else to say at this point. If anyone has any questions or anything, let me know. Overall, I'm definitely enjoying the phone, and I'm super glad to be back on Android. :good:
Cheers,
-Matt
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I can't help but notice how many reasons you mentioned that make me believe you really don't need a smartphone at all.

CraigP17 said:
I can't help but notice how many reasons you mentioned that make me believe you really don't need a smartphone at all.
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Eh you're probably right lol. I use to do a lot more with my phones (I rooted and did roms and such on my DNA, Droid M, and Galaxy S2), but just seems like lately I'm just addicted to getting new gadgets haha. Don't get me wrong, I still take photos, watch youtube videos, check my email and browse the web when I'm out and about, just not in the same capacity as almost everyone on XDA I would surmise. Was heavily into the whole social media thing too, but I just got burnt out feeling like I had to check a bunch of apps every 10 mins to keep up to date with what everyone I know is doing.
-Matt

[UPDATE] HTC M8 to LG G4: My Honest Experience In-depth

PREFACE: I don't know when was the last time I used a non-rooted phone and a completely stock ROM. My last android devices were HTC Desire S > HTC One M7 > HTC One M8. So you can guess I am a big fan of HTC's build quality, sound quality, lately user interface etc. The only sector HTC couldn't shine for me, ever, was camera quality. It's not that their cameras are horrible, it's just that always there is something missing. M7 had pink tint issue & M8 camera used to take good pictures but Megapixel becomes an issue when u use a camera in day to day life. Well decision of joining LG league was a big leap for me. I am quite sure you all know all the little details & specs of G4, so I will not go for specs. Neither I am going to read the same script saying all the goods about G4 like many youtubers. I will share what experience I have gathered during my short time playing (almost 3 days) with LG G4. I will try to divide my each category into Pros & Cons. So let's begin.
1. BUILD:
Pros:
- Leather back has a good grip and attractive design.
- Feels slim in hand and maintains the curve of the face while talking.
- Big but not uncomfortable. In fact all those saying, this device is big but doesn't feel so, are 100% true. I have used HTC Desire 816 for a short time & I can ensure you G4 doesn't feel as big as 816.
Cons:
- As I am used to having cases on my previous devices, using without one makes me insecure sometimes dropping the phone, not due to slipperiness, but due to thin profile (which is not actually a bad thing).
- Doesn't feel as expansive as S6 Edge or M8, but doesn't feel cheap at all.
2. DISPLAY:
Pros:
- Very good quality - sharp & crisp.
- Good backlight in outdoors.
- Colour reproduction very accurate.
Cons:
- 720p videos looks dull. 1080p and above are ok.
3. CAMERA & GALLERY:
Pros:
- Everything you already know.
Cons:
- No Resolution choosing option.
- No 360 panaroma option.
- You have to touch right above the dialer for changing the manual control options, anywhere else will switch between front & back camera, which takes time to get used to as the dialer is not that wide.
- OIS very aggressive in video mode. Videos seem to be stretch at corners which is not very pleasant. Audio quality is not good enough too. Voice seems to have no depth.
- No option for choosing which albums you want to show in "Albums" section in gallery, so some random folders containing random images i.e. music folder, app folder show in the "Albums" and you cannot hide them which is possible in Sense gallery. One other tiny pick - when u open an image, all the options are on the upper part of the screen which is not accessible with one hand. It was located below the photo is Sense gallery. Otherwise gallery is a nice one.
4. AUDIO:
Pros:
- Loud & clear. I think louder than M8. One of the loudest and good quality speaker I have ever used in a smartphone.
- No problem enjoying youtube and music videos.
Cons:
- Not as clear as M8 in a very few occasions. (Not due to blocking by palm)
- Bass almost absent.
- Facing to the wrong direction.
- Not much appealing while listening to music on speaker.
5. CHARGING & BATTERY LIFE:
Pros:
- Only phone I have ever used which if I leave idly at 100%, after 2-3 hours I will get is back at 99-100%. (wifi & mobile data off, 1-2 calls maybe) Very much impressed with the stand by time of the G4.
Cons:
- Poor charging speed, even with the provided LG charger & cable. Fastest I have found when I switch off the phone. Couldn't try with any quick charger yet.
- Battery drains drastically even with only wifi (2mbps connection, don't lough, i know) as if it is connected to 3g mobile data connection. It's like 1% drain in 1-3 minutes. M8 was much better in such scenario. Some people, of course, saying that this condition improves over time. Can't verify though as never before used a LG phone.
[UPDATE: Switch off auto-brightness. You will see much improvement of the battery. Although I have changed my first device and brought another one & I actually found this device to be better in battery management than previous one. Sorry, not speaking scientifically though.]
[UPDATE 2: Charging problem seems to have solved in the newer device.]
6. HEATING ISSUE:
- Charge your phone first to 100% (switching off) right after you buy the phone.
- I have had serious heating issue for the first 2 days. It's not that it used to become untouchable, in fact you will feel no heat on the back, rather I lifted the phone to my cheek to talk, it almost made red flush on my cheek.
- Things seem to have improved now. I think heating issue will resolve automatically in time.
[UPDATE: As I exchanged my previous G4, new one seems not to have such heating issue from the get-go. Although I need to use it for a few more days to confirm.]
7. PERFORMANCE & UI:
a) Call quality & Phone app:
- Must tick the "noise suppression" & "voice clarity" option in "settings > call". Person hearing you will find significant improvement bcoz of this.
- Phone app doesn't seem quite bad. I was actually bragging on the fact that HTC Sense has the best intelligence in merging and organizing phone contacts. No AOSP or even Google's built-in phone app has the same level of intelligence. But LG seems to have done better with this (although not as good as HTC, but better than others).
- But no "Remove Duplicates" option is a bummer for me.
- Also no "Default Tab" option (i.e. whenever you open the app, a selected tab e.g. recent / dialer will open first) is a disadvantage for me.
- Rather than making a seperate dialer tab, if LG would make a dialer floating button like lollipop's stock dialer, IMO it would be better.
b) Messaging:
- Here's a quick tip. If you coming from a old phone & trying to recover all the messages by some app, at first merge your contacts in the people app. Otherwise your messaging app will freeze quite often.
- Messaging app seems quite nice.
- Customization options are very limited. Provided background wallpapers and bubbles are very childish. And you cannot apply new theme which is weird in 2015 where HTC & Samsung have gone far ahead in this segment.
c) RAM management:
- You will not be happy. I am not saying the phone will freeze now and then, but LG G4 is not doing well in this segment. Don't know it's Lg's or Lolllipop's fault.
[UPDATE: With my newer G4, didn't actually feel any lagging or difficulty yet. Although I didn't restore all my apps yet. I will update if anything changes.]
d) Performance issues: (updated)
- Sometimes misses a few taps. But I don't think it's any LCD issue. It seems to me that deafult ROM isn't as fluid as HTC's or Samsung's or Apple's. Maybe Lollipop has also something to do with it. But I definitey think this will improve in custom ROMs (if & when they will be available )
e) Other things:
- Missing Sense 7 very much. Nothing can beat the integrate themes in Sense 7. No idea why LG almost completely opted it. Yah theme is there, but very limited like IOS.
- And also missing "swipe to lock" feature. Many-a-times swiping the nav bar subconsciously.
- No root or unlock bootloader yet for my H815T. It's causing hell on me. I am not at all used to live with a unrooted locked phone. Evenn Helium doesn't quite work for LG G4.
Well I tried to cover as much and as precise as possible about my experience with G4. I think an update from LG can solve many of the issues and later stage custom ROMs can eliminate all the issues I have mentioned here as hardware-wise it is really a nice device. And LASTLY guys, if you think your device isn't performing well, go and change it, don't wait coz yah all devices may not same built. I have found significant improvement changing my older G4. Yah there may or may not be any scientific explanation, but it helps actually. Go & change yours if it seems lagging, charging slowly or overheating....
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You must have a good one m8 and a bad G4. And i must have a bad one m8 gpe and a great G4. My stock rooted 5.1.1 m8 is a battery sucking stuttering pos. My G4 silky smooth battery sipping joy. My G4 is by far the smoothest phone I have ran to date.

I agree with some of what you've said. I used to be an HTC fanboi. I have used HTC flagships for the last 6 or 7 years. I only switched from the M8 to the G4 because the M9 wasn't worth the upgrade.
Personally I love the G4. Its a nice step up from the M8. Remember it's only been out a short time, and is still on it's initial release. When it's been tested in the public for a little time, LG will no doubt patch it to improve on things. Just give it some time.
I don't see any performance issues though. I have no delay when opening apps.

the_scotsman said:
I agree with some of what you've said. I used to be an HTC fanboi. I have used HTC flagships for the last 6 or 7 years. I only switched from the M8 to the G4 because the M9 wasn't worth the upgrade.
Personally I love the G4. Its a nice step up from the M8. Remember it's only been out a short time, and is still on it's initial release. When it's been tested in the public for a little time, LG will no doubt patch it to improve on things. Just give it some time.
I don't see any performance issues though. I have no delay when opening apps.
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Ok tell me one thing. How much RAM is used most of the time on yr device? I can find it from the floating bubble of "clean master" & it normally never comes down to 85%. And one other thing, in battery usage what takes up the most of it? Mine is screen. Secondly System. Screen almost takes double battery than System all the time. Is it normal? I mean I wanna be sure that I don't have a defective device coz exchange will be easy here in my country.

nipun1110 said:
Ok tell me one thing. How much RAM is used most of the time on yr device? I can find it from the floating bubble of "clean master" & it normally never comes down to 85%. And one other thing, in battery usage what takes up the most of it? Mine is screen. Secondly System. Screen almost takes double battery than System all the time. Is it normal? I mean I wanna be sure that I don't have a defective device coz exchange will be easy here in my country.
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Screen taking up the most battery is completely normal. The display uses more battery than anything else by a LONG way.
And by design Android will use most of the RAM available. It will leave apps sitting in memory, so they can be switched between quickly. It's not supposed to have a lot of spare free RAM. Free RAM is a waste in simple Android terms.

the_scotsman said:
Screen taking up the most battery is completely normal. The display uses more battery than anything else by a LONG way.
And by design Android will use most of the RAM available. It will leave apps sitting in memory, so they can be switched between quickly. It's not supposed to have a lot of spare free RAM. Free RAM is a waste in simple Android terms.
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Thanks a lot. But it seems to me whenever RAM crossing 87-88%, it starts stuttering.

the_scotsman said:
Screen taking up the most battery is completely normal. The display uses more battery than anything else by a LONG way.
And by design Android will use most of the RAM available. It will leave apps sitting in memory, so they can be switched between quickly. It's not supposed to have a lot of spare free RAM. Free RAM is a waste in simple Android terms.
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One other thing, can u say one thing that, I am using a Singapore/Australia model, ok?? Does it have anything to do with my battery drain?

That's nothing to do with it.
Howe low long have you had it? You'd have to post a screenshot of your power usage for us to comment on it further.

Same boat here. M8 to red leather G4. For now Im really liking the G4 in all but in two major aspects; one is the bad battery life compared to M8 (no more over 7hour screen on times ) and the other is bad audio quality. In audio it just cant match M8 neither on speaker (obviosly), headphones or bluetooth audio. I could live with the ok audio and loud but tinny speaker but the bt-audio streaming is something horrible :/. Cant listen to music from the phone in my car anymore . I dont have heat or bad lag issues but then again it might be the launcher and/or the other apps that I use dont cause that much lag. But I really really like the camera and the screen. Oh man if M9 had screen (not the resolution but the colors and outside readability) and camera like this I would have ordered it straight away.

Pyrres said:
Same boat here. M8 to red leather G4. For now Im really liking the G4 in all but in two major aspects; one is the bad battery life compared to M8 (no more over 7hour screen on times ) and the other is bad audio quality. In audio it just cant match M8 neither on speaker (obviosly), headphones or bluetooth audio. I could live with the ok audio and loud but tinny speaker but the bt-audio streaming is something horrible :/. Cant listen to music from the phone in my car anymore . I dont have heat or bad lag issues but then again it might be the launcher and/or the other apps that I use dont cause that much lag. But I really really like the camera and the screen. Oh man if M9 had screen (not the resolution but the colors and outside readability) and camera like this I would have ordered it straight away.
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You are having 7 hours screen on time??? OMG I am hardly getting 3.5 hours!!!!

the_scotsman said:
I agree with some of what you've said. I used to be an HTC fanboi. I have used HTC flagships for the last 6 or 7 years. I only switched from the M8 to the G4 because the M9 wasn't worth the upgrade.
Personally I love the G4. Its a nice step up from the M8. Remember it's only been out a short time, and is still on it's initial release. When it's been tested in the public for a little time, LG will no doubt patch it to improve on things. Just give it some time.
I don't see any performance issues though. I have no delay when opening apps.
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How did you handle the transition from a more mature user interface ?
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nipun1110 said:
OMG I am hardly getting 3.5 hours!!!!
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What is your screen brightness set to indoors ? or is it on auto brightness.
liked the comparison with desire 816 for size, that one is so much bigger for the same screen.

People still use those memory cleaners?
That is what's causing your lag and battery drain.
Android is DESIGNED to keeps apps in memory to reduce cpu time to open it again. By cleaning the memory you are forcing the phone to do extra work that it normally wouldn't have to do when opening an app. Android will automatically clear memory that it needs to do something else.
Your phone will feel fastest and perform the best when your ram usage is between 50 and 80 percent.

nipun1110 said:
You are having 7 hours screen on time??? OMG I am hardly getting 3.5 hours!!!!
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With m8 the longest screen on time was over 14hours when reading a book inside with everything on and no battery savers on. Average was something like 5 hours. With G4 i get maybe 4-5hours SOT if Im careful. Oh and screen brightness is set to 65-70 with auto in both phones.
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

I already exchanged the phone from the retailer with another one. Will check this one carefully. Right now doing the first charge switching off the phone. I will report later on. BTW I found avoiding autobrightness is a good option. Adjust the brightness whenever necessary.

And what is your usual setting indoors ? mention the number..
auto is the most efficient but its dimmer.

One Twelve said:
And what is your usual setting indoors ? mention the number..
auto is the most efficient but its dimmer.
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Check this link & u will find auto brightness is not that helpful, rather killing battery & I personally saw an improvement killing it.
http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-save-battery-life

Check this link for my at present battery update of New G4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61214824

nipun1110 said:
Check this link for my at present battery update of New G4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61214824
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Ok, so you use your phone with a screen brightness of 50% indoors.
Some use more others use less. this plays a factor.
Good to see that you have noticed an improvement with the replacement but its annoying to have to exchange devices like this. You're not the only one, i've heard similar stories from a couple of others as well.

One Twelve said:
Ok, so you use your phone with a screen brightness of 50% indoors.
Some use more others use less. this plays a factor.
Good to see that you have noticed an improvement with the replacement but its annoying to have to exchange devices like this. You're not the only one, i've heard similar stories from a couple of others as well.
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yah I have seen many posts of such. But I am really enjoying my new device. Even charging problem also solved. But man, u gotta switch off the auto brightness - take my opinion.

Good read. Glad some issues are fixed with the newer unit.
It is odd there is a fixed resolution with each ratio. But whatever, I leave it on 16x9 lol
Sent from my LG-H815