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Connection - What The Heck Does It Mean?

Right guys. As you all know I like the iPhone. I also like the HTC Touch HD and it's arriving tommorow. This isn't a question of which is better, what i want to know is what the heck the different HSDPA thingies mean. e.g.
Iphone - 850/1900/2100 - 3.6megaBITs i beleive?
HTC Touch HD - 900/2100
And i beleive my current phone is...
C905 - 2100 - Also 3.6 megaBITs i beleive....
Now my question is, what does this mean? I have no idea and after some googling I'm still quite confused. All i know is that i currently download (measured in firefox, on my C905, using it as a modem) at between 150Kb/s and with download boosters up to 500KB/s.
Now then. How does the iPhone clock up to this, what do the numbers mean? Or do these numbers mean nothing in relating to download speeds? Sorry for sounding confusing. I was just wondering what the differences are like in connection speeds with each device being used as a wireless modem (which i do a LOT) thanks
-I'm from the uk on T-mobile if that helps anyone :S
Thanks for helping me guys!!

evildead4eva said:
Right guys. As you all know I like the iPhone. I also like the HTC Touch HD and it's arriving tommorow. This isn't a question of which is better, what i want to know is what the heck the different HSDPA thingies mean. e.g.
Iphone - 850/1900/2100 - 3.6megaBITs i beleive?
HTC Touch HD - 900/2100
And i beleive my current phone is...
C905 - 2100 - Also 3.6 megaBITs i beleive....
Now my question is, what does this mean? I have no idea and after some googling I'm still quite confused. All i know is that i currently download (measured in firefox, on my C905, using it as a modem) at between 150Kb/s and with download boosters up to 500KB/s.
Now then. How does the iPhone clock up to this, what do the numbers mean? Or do these numbers mean nothing in relating to download speeds? Sorry for sounding confusing. I was just wondering what the differences are like in connection speeds with each device being used as a wireless modem (which i do a LOT) thanks
-I'm from the uk on T-mobile if that helps anyone :S
Thanks for helping me guys!!
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OK lets try to make it a bit less confusing.
850/1900/2100 are the frequencies that the phone can use, the HD uses...
850/900/1800/1900 MHz for GPRS (2G) and EDGE (2.5G) and ...
900/2100 MHz for 3G (HSPA/WCDMA)...
yet it really is acronym city, google them if you really want to know.
The Speeds you might get depend on a lot of things like...
1/ Where you are.
2/ Stationary or moving.
3/ Signal strength.
4/ What connection type your getting.
5/ How many other people are using data on the same cells.
6/ Some of the data is used up in transmission packets and redundancy.
Basically, (skip to page 40 of the HD Manual, available as a PDF from HTC).
If you see a G at the top of the screen then you have a GPRS connection with a theoretical maximum speed of about 48kbps, small b so bits.
If you see a E at the top of the screen then you have an EDGE connection with a theoretical maximum of 384kbps.
If you see 3G (never seen this myself on the HD) or H then your on a high speed connection with a theoretical maximum of 7.2Mbps.
As far as I know at the moment, there are certain parts of London where you might be able to get 7.2Mbps, but for the rest of the country your best will be 3.6Mpbs.
My Kaiser on T-Mobile with H and a really good signal was able to get 150kBps, big B so Bytes using a speed checker somewhere, lots on the net if you search. That was using the Kaiser as a modem which gets up to 1.8Mbps on H. At home on ADSL I get about 400kBps so faster but not noticeable so when browsing just when downloading files..
So basically for the best browsing or modeming (is that a word?) using the HD you'll want to see H at the top of the screen and 2 or more bars on the signal strength thingy, but it's still quite useable with G and 2 or more bars of strength.
Hope that helps, and apologies if the info is not 100% exact I was trying to make it as simple as possible.

I'm a simple kinda guy lol
Explains it perfectly. So as long as i get the H in the corner (which i get with my C905 with 100% signal strength, i should be fine with either the Touch HD or iPhone 3g? No real difference apart from signal strength?
Basically (nice and simple for me, lol) HSDPA is HSDPA, all the same, it's either supported or not, as long as your phone says HSDPA and you got the signal, its all the same?
It's confusing, as i use my phone as a modem ALL the time, rather than using wifi or any other internet... lol. 10GB a month limit suits me fine

remember
MB== mega byte
Mb == mega bit
1 bytes is 8 bit
transfer speed measured directly in a browser is mostly in MB

aye,
I currently download at speeds of about 200kB per second. Thats bytes. So hoping the HTC matches that. Also hope the iphone will be the same if i dont like my touch hd

How fast is your G1

I got mine unlocked on the AT&T network, most likely EDGE because its only quadband.
But **** ebven on EDGE net it should be faster that 128kbs, That's my average and max speed so far from dslreports.com

jasond said:
I got mine unlocked on the AT&T network, most likely EDGE because its only quadband.
But **** ebven on EDGE net it should be faster that 128kbs, That's my average and max speed so far from dslreports.com
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900+ on 3g

jasond said:
But **** ebven on EDGE net it should be faster that 128kbs, That's my average and max speed so far from dslreports.com
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128kbs is the same as 16KB/s so that's about right for EDGE.

I get 38kbs over here and that's on EDGE, your data is over 3x faster than mine. I don't feel bad for you lol.

Edge speeds are going to be all over the place. Yours is actually not bad. For example, my Edge speeds here in Atlanta (on the rare occasions that I don't have 3G) are really fast - so fast that I don't even notice the lack of 3G. When I go to my in-laws' in Ohio, I want to punch someone in the face because of the slow Edge speeds.

365 kbit/s
On Orange 3G network, capped at 384 kbit/s

I have gotten my G1 up to 100mph, I think it could easily handle 200mph+, but my car cannot. G1: 1; Car: 0

ive seen 450 as my highest download speed on g1
and pjforpres time for a new car

fastest I've gotten was 1800 kbps on 3g

I average 900+kbps on 3G. Fastest it reach so far was 1002kbps exactly, seems like it can reach higher but something might be hindering it. I wish I live in Philadelphia so I can experience 3000+kbps.

20 mbps WITH WIFI
100kbps with edge havnt tried 3g as yet
22" CHROME RIMS lol
CUSTOM LEATHER SEAT

nicostar said:
20 mbps WITH WIFI
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I thought this wasn't possible to achieve these speeds.
I have 12 mbps internet and I only get like 4 or 5mbps tops.

tazz9690 said:
I thought this wasn't possible to achieve these speeds.
I have 12 mbps internet and I only get like 4 or 5mbps tops.
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well we have a company out here called flow and they offer internet through optic fibre cables which can give rich people up to 100mbps its unbelievable
the normal connections are like 2, 4, 8, 10, 20, and 54mbps i believe.
its a company that provides landline cable tv(optic fibre) and HIGH speed internet

nicostar said:
well we have a company out here called flow and they offer internet through optic fibre cables which can give rich people up to 100mbps its unbelievable
the normal connections are like 2, 4, 8, 10, 20, and 54mbps i believe.
its a company that provides landline cable tv(optic fibre) and HIGH speed internet
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He wasn't talking about your ISP's speed, he was saying he didn't think the G1 could go that fast on WiFi, that it stalled out around 4-5...
Which is about what I get. I have a 20MBPS optic internet setup myself, and my G1 only gets 5MBPS over WiFi on a really good day. That is after testing many different speednet servers. (Chicago is the fastest, even though it isn't the closest to me).
I have also gone to websites and run the test using those, and still maxes out at about 5MBPS.
When I have done this with my laptop, I usually get 19.XMBPS...

Edge: 182 kbps down, 42 kbps up.
3g: 2112 kbps down, 412 kbps up.
Wifi: 5226 kbps down, 4885 kbps up. I have a 20/20 mbit connection.

pjcforpres said:
He wasn't talking about your ISP's speed, he was saying he didn't think the G1 could go that fast on WiFi, that it stalled out around 4-5...
Which is about what I get. I have a 20MBPS optic internet setup myself, and my G1 only gets 5MBPS over WiFi on a really good day. That is after testing many different speednet servers. (Chicago is the fastest, even though it isn't the closest to me).
I have also gone to websites and run the test using those, and still maxes out at about 5MBPS.
When I have done this with my laptop, I usually get 19.XMBPS...
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by joe your right lol thanks man lol

Mine reports 1711 kbps through my Telcel home WiFi setup.
Have a great afternoon!

Here in Chile (The G1 doesn't support the chilean 3G bands, so only EDGE) I get about 20~25kB/s when I'm capped and ~30kB/s when I'm not.
Regards!

mobile speed test results

Not sure if this is normal but as I'm using the internet my network is switching between 3g and h.. I did som mobilespeedtest.com tests and here are my results.. do these look normal or better or worse?
using opera 9.7
1mb test - 860kbps
2mb test - 1127kbps
500kb test - 1023kbps
100kb test - 272kbps
the last one seems a bit out of place.. almost seems the larger the file the faster the download.
these seem to be on the faster than I expected side.

Ok.. so I went to Microsft wmv hd downloads and in slighty less than a minute and a half I downloaded 10mb . That seems pretty insane to me.. all while on the H with full signal.

Mines in my sig from Mobilespeedtest...Houston, Texas area...

uhhhmm.. i don't really know what to tell you, but I WISH I HAVE THAT CONNECTION..
are you sure your not connected via Wifi? using FIOS?

Wow that's flying Mgioia.. that must be HSPA+ right? How's the ping/latency on a connection like that?

HSDPA Speed Test

So I was just chilling in a hotel room in Dallas, TX last night and picked up my phone to see that instead of 3G it displayed H after some research I decided to try this out i did a speed test with my mobile browser and this is the result i got
771 kbps from mobilespeedtest.com
Has anyone else enjoyed this blazing fast speeds let us know

i only got 427
3g = 400, so i guess im OKAY

some people on HSDPA get over 1 mb/s..even on 3g, I've gotten up to 800kbs before...you're not doing it right

infrared_guy said:
So I was just chilling in a hotel room in Dallas, TX last night and picked up my phone to see that instead of 3G it displayed H after some research I decided to try this out i did a speed test with my mobile browser and this is the result i got
771 kbps from mobilespeedtest.com
Has anyone else enjoyed this blazing fast speeds let us know
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That's pretty much exactly the speed I get on HSDPA, pretty much independent on how many bars I have lol (well with 1 bar, it tends to slow down)
But if you're in one of the areas that got the HSDPA+ update, you can hit 1.5Mbps easily

Start off by testing with some other site than mobilespeedtest...their results are inconsistent and unreliable.
Here's a good one for you, there's others if you want to search...but for results that you can trust, you need a better option than the one you're using now
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed (just go there from opera or pIE)

Mine only shows 3G, but I'm getting 846k. I'm located in Madison, WI.

I had 1000kbps -1400kbps when I'm standing outside in the streets here in NYC

yea ive hit upward to 1800 from dslreports... mobilespeedtest i once hit 8mbs!!! lmao...

Um, maybe I am doing something wrong, but I am in salt lake city, and my 3G is giving me less than 200 kbps. I have tried opera 9, 10, skyfire, and IE. This isn't really what I have in mind for 3G speeds. I have tried this on www.dslreports.com/mspeed and www.mobilespeedtest.com. I will test this tomorrow at work, but more and more I am becoming disheartened with tmobile 3G. I also tried using my wireless network at home, and I was getting super fast speeds with it.

nj
3g 1180 kbit/second in side my brick aprtment building

So I went outside this morning and did it again, and now its double...Just under 400 kbps. Which according to mobilespeedtest.com, that is just barely slower than EDGE speeds. FML. I'm switching to verizon when my contract expires.

Fairly old thread, but would be nice to see some new tests
I was surprised when I did it, good result after testing it 5 times...
Thats with 3 bars HSDPA on o2 in scotland

Just for comparable, here is my home broadband speed from the same site
(Slow broadband, I know but its Scotland and only 20mbit from Sky... )

sirphunkee said:
Start off by testing with some other site than mobilespeedtest...their results are inconsistent and unreliable.
Here's a good one for you, there's others if you want to search...but for results that you can trust, you need a better option than the one you're using now
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed (just go there from opera or pIE)
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I get an error message there "unstable/too fast, choose a larger file."
But the largest file is 1MB and I am still getting that message.
lol

I have HD not HD2. I did't perform a special test but when using my phone as a wifi router (HSDPA connected) i download files 350-450 kbps/s on my PC. I will post here my speed test when i buy a HD2 Leo

4,900 kb/s here in the Silicon Valley with Speedtest.net.

1547kbps - mobilespeedtest (internet explorer)
(too fast a result) - dslreports (all)
.99mbps down / .92 up - speedtest.net (mobile internet explorer)
1.73mbps down / 1.24mbps up - speedtest android application
2.55 down / 1.11 up - speedtest.net (android browser)
3478kbps (100kb) / 17949kbps (7MB) - mobilespeedtest (android browser)

mobilespeedtest ~ 1800kbps
speedtest.net app ~ 4000kbps
those are the average after 5 runs.

1859 kbps using dsl reports 1mb file
3800 kbps using mobile speed test 3mb file
on o2 in North East England, UK.

5161kbps with the mobilespeedtest 7mb file. DSLReports told me all the files were loaded too fast/unreliably. The best part is that I pay 2€/mo for my mobile data with no restrictions at all here in Finland.

[Q] Anyone else experiencing really bad data speeds after stock EC05->EI22 update?

I assume nobody else is having speed issues because I haven't seen any recent posts about this topic, but I went from 100% stock (including recovery, non-rooted, no extra apps installed) EC05 to EI22.
The first thing I noticed when I started to install applications was the 3G data was tremendously slower than it was before. Yes, I'm on Sprint. It wasn't great before, but it is *really* bad for me now.
I am currently getting:
4 out of 6 bars, -76dBm to -91dBm 0 asu
I do not know what the dBm/asu indicate, if those are "good" values or not. I've received acceptable data speeds at this location before.
I performed three speed tests using the Speed Test app:
ping 790ms, 693ms, and 982ms
download (bits, not bytes): 95kbps/0.09Mbps, 75kbps/0.07Mbps, 35kbps/0.03Mbps
upload (bits, not bytes): 93kbps/0.09Mbps, 127kbps/0.12Mbps, 138kbps/0.14Mbps
I am a bit reluctant to odin the modem back to EC05 with the modem NVRAM flash cleared and re-applying the EI22 patch, since I am not rooted I do not have the necessary numbers it appears I need to re-establish service from reading that forum thread.
Anyone else seeing a similar issue? Any suggestions for resolving it, other than the aforementioned NVRAM flash?

No noticable speed issues here....the towers that were broke before still don't work for data and the ones that do work..work the same.
Go to the data status in the ##DEBUG screen and make sure it says evdo and not 1x.

It's likely the tower. I get the same sort of thing downtown here but if I get out to another tower I pull just over 1 meg down. Hopefully Sprint gets all of their towers sorted out soon.

I compared mine on an Airave and they are comparable in speed.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Thanks, everyone.
I tried to search the forums for ##DEBUG to see how to do that, but wasn't able to find a post that explained it. One post I did find talked about turning on tethering mode and using a com port, but none of the ports I tried to open worked (I stopped at COM7). I will look into this more later on the great interweb.
I found some co-workers who have Sprint and androids, and when they ran Speed Test all also got abysmal results: one test returned a 2kbps (bits) download result. Yikes.
So, it seems to indeed be tower problem of some sort. After talking more with them, it appears to have really taken a nose dive the past couple weeks. The suspicious is the tower is saturated. Awhile back one of my coworkers called Sprint to complain, after going through several levels the most he got them to do was re-provision his phone which didn't help at all. So there's no acknowledgement of a problem or apparently any intention of fixing the issue. Maybe someday...
Anyhow, I appreciate your help and insights. Thanks again, everyone.

Same Issue Here!!
Insanely slow, all stock, formerly 1.0Mbps DLs before in same spot.

I have to throw my 2 cents in, used to get pretty good speeds and now, not sure if it is EI22 or something else, I get horrible speeds.
I sat in a car, parked in a lot across the street from the sprint tower, full bars, -65dBm, and ran a speed test... 483kbps download, 614kbps upload, 117ms ping.
I'm in a smallish town and can't imagine there is that much traffic on the tower...
Just to update, in another smallish town about 45 minutes away from the other one, sitting 5 bars about 1/4 mile away from tower and my speeds are even worse.

same problem here - speed test results are dismal
5 bars - tower within 1/2 mile away - ping 138 ms - d/l 439 kbps ul 443 kbps
phone samsung epic 4g
ERA Legendary 2.1 ROM
thanks

I've found that if I disable 100 MHz then I get a lot better data speeds. I'm on Legendary RC 2.1 with 2.0.8 of the Samurai kernel.

I also have this problem too, however if 3g is super importante, I would recommend CM7 the problem seems to go away too. Runs smoother too. I have 4g, and love it, so that is what I use when I am connected to a charger. 3g is getting pretty bad that I can't even stream music sometimes, just for the skips.

Saki18 said:
Insanely slow, all stock, formerly 1.0Mbps DLs before in same spot.
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Installed ACS Recovery and Rooted, only thing different, drastic improvement in speed. Dunno why.
Here's what I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307980
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339478

Slow speeds with a strong signal usually means that the tower is having issues. I have that problem on the main road (I live in the sticks) where there is only one tower, and a lot of users. In the middle of the night my speeds skyrocket, indicating network saturation during the day.
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Ok another update. I had a friend with a galaxy tab at work today try a speed test and the same time as I did on my epic. We both got very similar results... which hopefully confirms that my phone is working fine, just sprints network is being saturated in my area. I'm going to go ahead and blame the number of people who probably picked up smart phones in the last few weeks. Seems like every day at work somebody has a new shinny toy to show off... to bad the network isn't able to support it.

I live in San Francisco, and I still get crappy speed. San Francisco's suppose to have the "fastest" 3G. I donno why though.

update from me.
sprint was down much of today
just came back - speed test report 1177 kbps down - 649 kbps up and ping of 163 ms - A dramatic improvement
did the 100 mhz mod also
but this seems to point to towers.