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Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
Be sure to check out the animated ad for dog food to fully realize what a future of Flash-capable devices will really look like.
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Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
It's MOTO, not Motorola.
its funny that they post pictures but no video, ok we have the video of the first 3, but what about the video of the N1 getting doodled on... are they all using the same app? (that goes for the android phone)
why are we sposed to take their word for it that one pic was taking with slow, full finger motions while the other was tip and medium speed?
i used to go to engadget for all my tech reviews before i buy things but after pickin up this godsend of a phone, i have noticed how little validity or credibility their site has... still shots do not prove actions of precision...
this is an advanced world we live in now, engadget can make a video to bash androids browser speeds yet it cant make a video to prove this simple line test? plz...
cartoonmonkey said:
Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
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Nice work setting these Id10T's straight! I can't wait for your video!
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The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
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I just read the flash article on engadget and really? the guy specifically said that 80% of the video online uses flash, HOW ON GODS GREEN EARTH COULD FLASH OVERALL BE NEGATIVE?! This baffles the hell out of me, granted there will prolly be more ads on our browsers but i really dont care because having flash for other things is HUGE!
pros- 80% of online video will now be viewable
-sites that use flash entirely will now be viewable
-flash games can now be played
-flash can be integrated 1000 other ways with practical uses
cons- ads on websites
-may be a resource hog down? (doubt it though)
i say the pros definitely outweigh the cons...
It's funny...the Nexus One launch have brought out the true colors of Engadget, BGR, and others. Looks like Google and HTC are doing their job! That and I have lost all respect for Engadget and BGR.
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It's funny...the Nexus One launch have brought out the true colors of Engadget, BGR, and others. Looks like Google and HTC are doing their job! That and I have lost all respect for Engadget and BGR.
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A lot of us have known Engadget are a bunch of iphone licking fcuk heads for quite some time.
Once they get their vibrating iphones out of their respective a$$es, they might see straight again....
Its really disappointing. They also dished the HD2 which I currently use (altho I have a Nexus 1 on the way) and its truely an awesome winmo phone - and much better than an iphone!
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A lot of us have known Engadget are a bunch of iphone licking fcuk heads for quite some time.
Once they get their vibrating iphones out of their respective a$$es, they might see straight again....
Its really disappointing. They also dished the HD2 which I currently use (altho I have a Nexus 1 on the way) and its truely an awesome winmo phone - and much better than an iphone!
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Don't get me wrong, I love the HD2 as well; however, most people would rate the iphone higher strictly due to the OSes. I've never personally had a problem with WinMo, but it hasn't exactly been forward moving.
I'm still laughing at them about the 802.11N "reporting".
...breaking news...Nexus One doesn't support 802.11N...breaking news....
And they didn't try it? Simple test, would have shown they were wrong and it does support 802.11N, but that would not have pumped up the page views.
I personally dont have a problem with people liking their respective phones. If you like the iPhone thats great. If you like the HD2, thats fine. If you like the G1, thats great too. Hell, if you like the Motorola DynaTAC 8000X then thats just peachy.
What really pisses me off is when you try to use incorrect logic, flawed tests, and biased opinions to try and prove to me that the 3g signal in a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X is better than that of the HD2 (lets just say). This is what Engadget and many other reviewers have done, who after all this bull**** with biased opinions and flawed data are no longer considered reviewers in my opinion.
And it also pisses me off that because most people are ignorant, they take these reviewers words as truth and instead of forming there own decision, testing or doing more research already have a bad taste in their mouth. People should be like the recent TechCrunch article and and realize that just because you are not used to it and that it is different from the norm DOES NOT MAKE IT FLAWED, WRONG OR BROKEN!!!! IT JUST MAKES IT DIFFERENT WHETHER THAT BE FOR GOOD OR BAD IS FOR THE USER TO DECIDE!!!
CrApple must be paying them good money for messing things up with N1 launch. I really hate these fan boy srories poping up every day. I've got HD2 Bold2 and expecting N1 on monday. Every device has its own strength and weakness.
I think iToy user think they have best device and it will be forever. They have been deceived by Apple and whore member of on line media. New hardware of iToy can't be jailbreak any more, game over for now.
cartoonmonkey said:
Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
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This is preposterous. First the web browser speed test between iPhone, Droid, and N1 where the iPhone had clearly visited the page before and was just loading from cache and now this? What a complete joke.
Please stop bashing Engadget for nothing...
Engadget post doesn't say anything about the performance from the iPhone or the Nexus One. Engadget just posted an article from MOTO, without making any conclusions. And, if you read the post at MOTO, then you will know that the Nexus One preformed very good (the same as your picture shows) if you press 'medium' on your touchscreen.
So, please, stop bashing Engadget and read the posts good en entirely!
Wtf. Don't these people have anything better to do than doodling lines? Why are they spending countless hours to rip a phone?
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Please stop bashing Engadget for nothing...
Engadget post doesn't say anything about the performance from the iPhone or the Nexus One. Engadget just posted an article from MOTO, without making any conclusions. And, if you read the post at MOTO, then you will know that the Nexus One preformed very good (the same as your picture shows) if you press 'medium' on your touchscreen.
So, please, stop bashing Engadget and read the posts good en entirely!
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You can't say that engadget hasn't exhibited a clear bias. Their browser test was clearly rigged. That generated a lot of bad press. Almost every aspect of their review focuses on the tiny contrivances they found instead of anything positive. Literally, the phone is twice as fast (almost) as any of the other smart phones out there, yet they could hardly find even a single good thing to say about it.
Everything was written from a "the iphone has been doing it better for years now" perspective.
I tried this myself as well, and my lines came out pin straight even moving very slowly. Engadget is really a bunch of apple fanboys, even from their initial review of the Nexus.
Ive had my girlfriends Iphone 3Gs and my Nexus side by side, and in all aspects I'd rather use the nexus.
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You can't say that engadget hasn't exhibited a clear bias. Their browser test was clearly rigged. That generated a lot of bad press. Almost every aspect of their review focuses on the tiny contrivances they found instead of anything positive. Literally, the phone is twice as fast (almost) as any of the other smart phones out there, yet they could hardly find even a single good thing to say about it.
Everything was written from a "the iphone has been doing it better for years now" perspective.
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The browser test was indeed very poor and totally useless because they only use one website, Engadget.com, instead of multiple websites like it use to be. And yes, I have seen better reviews then this review... But, to say that all the articles on Engadget are 'crap' because they are iPhone fanboys is a little overdone.
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The browser test was indeed very poor and totally useless because they only use one website, Engadget.com, instead of multiple websites like it use to be. And yes, I have seen better reviews then this review... But, to say that all the articles on Engadget are 'crap' because they are iPhone fanboys is a little overdone.
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No its precisely what it is..crap.
Its liek asking a redskins fan to break down Dallas Cowboy performances.
These guys clearly have an agenda which means the product is irrelevant. Once that happens things become tainted and "crap" is the label most appropriate.
The N1 is becoming the most hated phone to ever come out. It's amazing at how tech sites and apple fans are trying to make this phone look bad. Just admit it, you really do want one. We all know you do.
Got my N1 2010/01/07
Absolutely love it.
My N1 brings all the boys to the yard,
And their like
It's better than yours,
Damn right it's better than yours,
I can teach you,
But I have to charge
I typically do not post raves, but this time I have to rave about the Transformer. This is what everyone that try's to do an android tablet should be making. I got the Gtab last fall and did all the moding to get a usable tablet. Worked pretty good I had to say. Until now. The TF is outstanding. I had the pleasure of quieting a couple friends with iPads on Friday. The TF tore through internet pages, video on Youtube and anything else they could challenge me with.
I have been a fan of Asus for awhile and will continue to praise their product.
FYI, buy from a reputable vendor and you wont have the headaches.
Yeah this thing is amazing. I remember watching a reviews before I ordered it, saying the back felt cheap because it had a strange pattern but it feels so nice, and of course, doesn't scratch!
+1 had to go show it to my old boss the ultimate apple product fanboy, he looked for a bit, then quickly found a reason not to talk to me anymore normally he would argue with me about how apple is far superior, there is no argument that really holds water in the ipad vs eeepad shootout
I completely agree. After I messed around with most tablets out there. (Xoom, Iconia, iPad 1 and 2, etc...) I finally settled on the TF and I do not regret a thing. I absolutely love the little guy. The transformer is easily my favorite tablet and product that I've purchased from ASUS.
Almost a year ago Asus was showing off that 12 inch win7 tablet/laptop/transformer, and I wanted it so bad back then...
Januari this year I bought the Toshiba Folio 100, and after modding it, it does work very well imo... But when I walked through a MediaMarkt XL store (just to look aroudn and play around with some stuff), I saw this transformer, and I knew I was going to buy it, but I wanted to make sure it really was what it looked like... so I read and watched a lot of reviews, and bought it the next day!
It's so nice that I even leave my 15" HP ProBook at home most of the time!
(The wallpaper is a live video wallpaper)
I have to agree on that.
The Transformer is a very well done and smartly design product.
Kudo's to asus !
The keyboard integration is so good that i'm using the tablet almost exclusivly with the dock.
It's light, easy to use, the trackpad is awesome, the connectivity is top notch and the battery life is....well it's basicly the longest battery life there is in any device. Want to use it all day long in your garden downloading movie, watching them and browsing internet while chatting with friend ? You can ! This thing just can't run out of juice !
Gratz Asus! Waiting for you to roll out Ice cream as soon as you can.
Same here, Kudos to Asus! I'm moving on close to 2 months since the release and couldn't be happier...no problems. And, oh so, glad I got the dock/keyboard that really makes it unique and above the rest.
And please with all the card slots, etc. it offers that others don't. Also, pretty impressed that they rolled out the new update in a timely fashion for 3.1, while it looks like other tablets were waiting.
Guess that's why it's reported Asus Transformer is best selling android tablet!
I'm a happy customer and use it every day, all day long most time with a great battery life between it and my keyboard.
I must say that I'm also very pleased with the TF101. There have been lots of other posts/threads which slam them for the light bleed, non-working issues, etc., but really, I think ASUS has done a great job considering that it's their first foray into Android, AND they come with a product that no one else offers (dock functionality). It takes a hell of a lot of QA to make sure that it's ready for production, and despite myself having to return a faulty dock, I also give Kudos to them.
In fact, as I was reporting on my faulty dock issue a while ago, I received a PM from ASUS themselves! They offered to exchange my complete setup for a brand new one (dock, tablet, cables, etc.), however I declined because everything is working great for me once exchanging my faulty dock at the store I purchased it from.
Getting that message and noting that ASUS themselves are watching these boards, as they know we have a great passion for 'pimping out' devices gives me another great feeling.
Has anyone else been in contact by ASUS on XDA?
Regardless, yes. Kudos to you ASUS!
I, too, love my Transformer plus dock. Mine has no light bleed, no creaking, no problems at all. And I'm a total n00b when it comes to Android, but by reading the manual and the helpful advice here and another forum, I've gotten most or all of my questions answered. If even a beginner like me can feel comfortable, Asus has hit it out of the park.
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Yeah this thing is amazing. I remember watching a reviews before I ordered it, saying the back felt cheap because it had a strange pattern but it feels so nice, and of course, doesn't scratch!
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Mine feels extremely solid, and well built...not sure where the reviewers are getting this unless they were stuck with some bad ones...
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Mine feels extremely solid, and well built...not sure where the reviewers are getting this unless they were stuck with some bad ones...
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Review units are usually from pre-production or 1st production runs, and almost always have disclaimers that they are pre-prodution run review units. It also explains some of the early units that appear on the market having some QA issues.
I have a B05 UK model, and have none of the problems mentioned, it's got fantastic build quality, and my Apple loving boss has last week sold his ipad2 and bought one too after seeing mine+dock.
The days of Apple ruling the roost are long gone, you can get better and cheaper buy buying non-Apple these days. My phone is a HTC that's WAY better than anything Apple make, my tablet is an Asus and ditto....
My tab definitely feels solid too. I don't get all the "cheap" complaints because mine has been just fine and dandy. I do have a little bit of light bleed but it's really only visible when the entire screen is black, and honestly, it's something I can overlook. Just a minor annoyance, and I'll take dealing with it given the price
<3 the TF!
Have to agree pretty much with all the previous posts here. Have read most all the other posts of complaints and honestly while some were bonafide issues I rather felt some were suffering from too high expectations. My TF is quite probably from the initial release go-round and pretty much has been fine. A few annoyances? Sure. The dock battery drain is troublesome as is the charger (email to Asus was NEVER even acknowledged sad to say) but hoping future software fixes will be forthcoming.
Overall, I'm pleased and impressed.
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My tab definitely feels solid too. I don't get all the "cheap" complaints because mine has been just fine and dandy. I do have a little bit of light bleed but it's really only visible when the entire screen is black, and honestly, it's something I can overlook. Just a minor annoyance, and I'll take dealing with it given the price
<3 the TF!
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well I can't tell if I have any light bleeding... I've ran several dead pixel and light bleeding test programs and all of the colors of 100 percent solid. My settings screen and my browser bookmark page look like they have light bleed but several people have told me that is by design.
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I am very satisfied as well. I also have the keyboard version and it's not only usefull when writing longer texts (e.g. emails) but it gives the extra boost in battery life which is very welcomed!
I'm definitely not selling mine!
I'm thrilled with almost everything about it.
I also own an iPad and can comment without bias. The TF is better in nearly every way (especially the OS). The one area I think the iPad wins is the structural strength. It just feels tougher. I do like the really simple design but unfortunately apple let that spill over into every facet of the device.
TF for the win (especially with prime! 1.5)
Not untill this has netflix,hulu plus, words with friends honeycomb edition and potrait frame rate fix honeycomb tabs would never be an iPad killer
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I typically do not post raves, but this time I have to rave about the Transformer. This is what everyone that try's to do an android tablet should be making. I got the Gtab last fall and did all the moding to get a usable tablet. Worked pretty good I had to say. Until now. The TF is outstanding. I had the pleasure of quieting a couple friends with iPads on Friday. The TF tore through internet pages, video on Youtube and anything else they could challenge me with.
I have been a fan of Asus for awhile and will continue to praise their product.
FYI, buy from a reputable vendor and you wont have the headaches.
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My cousin, a huge apple fan boy, talked trash about my tablet for a while. Then he came over the shoot pool with me yesterday, and he saw my tablet with the keyboard dock, and he was like on nice you got a new netbook? I guess your tablet was not enough.
I told him this is my tablet and then showed him how it works, he was like Sh!t, why cant apple do cool stuff like that!!
"Android" steals the best stuff, and improves on it" I had to laugh at him.
Brandon
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Not untill this has netflix,hulu plus, words with friends honeycomb edition and potrait frame rate fix honeycomb tabs would never be an iPad killer
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To each their own! Plenty of people could care less about those apps and don't even miss them when they're gone.
dan-htc-touch said:
+1 had to go show it to my old boss the ultimate apple product fanboy, he looked for a bit, then quickly found a reason not to talk to me anymore normally he would argue with me about how apple is far superior, there is no argument that really holds water in the ipad vs eeepad shootout
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Reality check.
Rational arguments favoring the iPad 2 would include build quality, form factor (half as thick and also lighter), resale value, screen quality (brighter at max, dimmer at min, less reflective), performance (iPad's PowerVR crushes Tegra 2, no problems with 720p h.264 and iOS 5 has no problems even with 1080p h.264 whereas my TF cannot currently decode 720p acceptably, negating for me the advantage of the 16:10 screen). Also consider O/S maturity and reliability (most obviously the default Honeycomb launcher+browser are junk although ADW+Opera are much better, if buggy), the development tools (the Android emulator in particular is laughable - the iPad emulator in XCode is literally ~100x faster), app selection (Netflix an obvious example, there are thousands more), app quality (same app on both platforms is almost always inferior on TF) - in fact I don't see Android app performance ever approaching iOS here on similar hardware due to the overhead imposed by the Dalvik VM. Also, iTunes movies, TV shows, audiobooks etc. are one click away (although you have to pay for them vs torrents/Handbrake etc). Maybe if I had I non-rooted non-wifi-only Xoom I could try Google movies - I wouldn't known since I have an Asus TF and it has not been white-listed yet (BTW this kind of will-it-install/run/work roulette would not fly on the iTunes store). AirPlay, AirPrint and Home Sharing also 'Just Works.'.
I guess none of these arguments 'hold water' to you but if Google, OEMs like Asus and users rationalize away these things I think you can pretty much kiss this platform goodbye.
... which would be unfortunate because the Transformer's advantages are not insignificant - for $100 less (32GB vs 32GB) I get the MicroSD slot (plus SD with the dock) which gives me 64gb swappable storage in addition to the 32gb onboard (vs 64gb total on iPad), Apple's 'walled garden' is breached so I can install 3rd party keyboards, cloud-based music players, launchers, widgets etc. I also don't have to worry about Apple yanking the Kindle app etc for not paying the tithe etc.
I was very impressed at the review posted on Android Police.
It's like they are reviewing a different tablet from the one I have.
It's a shame as people might be discouraged from buying a great product.
I personally wouldn't have bought it base on the article posted.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
My response (added to the comments on Android Police)
I do agree with some of the observations made by the reviewr.
However, I do like the tablet a lot, I really wasn't looking to buy a tablet when I drove to Bestbuy, but since my HTC flyer is not performing as it used to, and I love the pen, I decided to go with this one after testing it for a while.
And I have to say I like it, it's plenty fast, I do agree that the multi tasking is more a gimmick, but it's really not the reason why I bought it.
Something I do have to note, mine is not flexible at all, I was really amazed at your video. Mine will not flex or make any sounds. I does looks very plastic, but other than that I have nothing bad to say in regards to the built quality. I do miss the aluminum on my HTC flyer, but the overall construction of this device is really good.
I don't have misaligned issues or parts or corners that look out of place, it feels completely solid.
I guess that different people have different opinions and everyone has different needs or expectations for devices.
I do respect the point of view presented in this article, but also disagree with some of the observations.
I would recommend interested people to actually go and try it out yourself.
Also, something I did notice when I started playing with it, is that mine felt much more heavy compared to the one the Samsung representative had at Bestbuy.
The Samsung lady had a black one what felt surprisingly light, could it bee there is kind of a demo version?
Anyway, the only point I completely agree with reviewer is that the multitasking is only gimmick... other than that my experiences been completely different and I really love the tablet, its my first 10 inch, and my first Samsung tablet, before I had Dell, HTC, and I also own a Nexus 7.
I find the built of the Samsung to be vastly superior of that of the N7.
Read this one from GSMArena. Their very thorough as you'll see (it's 10 pages). I think a lot of reviewers are just assuming the Note's a standard G-Tab with a pen and not really spending the time to appreciate it how well it does the things tablets are primarily used for.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1-review-798.php
In all of those reviews I've been noticing that there are issues not present in retail models. I actually watched a 40min russian review on youtube and they found a lot of problems, including creaking, pen sensor not working correctly and so on. Otherwise, the review was very well done and I tend to trust the reviewer. My feeling is, some of these review units are dodgy, maybe preproduction units.
Yep I went on quite a rant in my response to the review on Android Police Google+ page. I really do not get all the negative reviews of this product.
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Thankful
I'm just thankful I bought this tablet before reading reviews.
It's fantastic, im thinking of selling my N7, which I also love.
And yes, I agree the are testing preproduction models.
I just hate that they are missleading people which might have bought it.
I haven't used my computer since I bought this beast, I'm having exactly the same internet experience as my pc.
Without the wait of coming up out if hibernation.
One thing that really annoys me about these reviews is their assumption that HD (Infinity) and QVGA (iPad) are the *norm* now. They aren't - the vast majority of tablets in the 10.1 inch size are still 1280x800.
The reviewer is also a bit confused on some key points.
1. The Note 10.1's battery life is actually not that great. It ranks in around 8.5hrs of continuous use on video loop at 50% brightness. The Prime gets 10.5hrs. It seems what that the Note 10.1 does get right is long standby times which is actually very useful since most of us tend to use tablets in 'bursty' ways - off most of the time, then use for a bit then off for a long time.
2. His complaint about the power cord must come from not realising that Galaxy Tabs (of which the Note is one) can use the same peripherals (mostly) including the synch cable. A little digging and he could find a 6' synch/charge cable.
3. I don't have my Note yet - should be here in a few days - but I've fondled a Tab 2 10.1 and the back felt pretty sturdy. As someone else noted, they may have gotten pre-release units. As for 'everyone using aluminum" not really true. Apple does. Asus does on the Prime and Infinity only - the TF300 doesn't. And aluminum on the Prime is why it sucked... it made the GPS unusable. As for the pen feeling like a hollow rod.. if they'd made it heavier - it would have made the tablet heavier.. and you know what his comment would have been then...
4. NFC. Seriously? The lack of NFC was one of his big buttons? I have NFC on my Galaxy Nexus and it's essentially useless. And not for trying. No one else has NFC, so 'bump' is pointless. I can't use it as a credit card replacement. I can't use it to replace my office ID card. I can't find TecTiles at any store - and no one carries any other kind of NFC tokens. I CAN use it to read my British passport, but that gets kind of dull after a while.
5. Camera. This is one of those 'no way to win' things. Yes, I'd be happier if the Note had a 8MP camera. Yet everyone seems to be happy with the Nexus 7 - which has NO back camera. The back camera for me will be mostly for quicky shots and barcoding. How good is it for that? Wellll.. the reviewer was so wrapped up in not looking bad that he couldn't bring himself to test the camera - which makes him a bad reviewer.
And gee - look - once again a reviewer forgets to test GPS, WiFi and BT.
Having come from the Asus Prime disaster - the fact that almost no one here so far has posted any serious issues with the Note 10 gives me confience that this will be a good tablet.
I couldn't stand reading THST android police article. I had to stop after a while. They don't know what the hell they talking about..lol. they seem very biased. I will admit the grey version doesn't look no where near as good as the white one. I agree with THST they likely received a prproduction unit. My plastic back doesn't flex or is wavy. Plus my device right out the box performed well. They went overboard on bashing this device.
I like ASUS and will say Samsung deserves more credit on this tablet. I'm glad I didn't read the reviews also. I just got it off of reading specs, Watching unboxing videos, and Samsung promo videos on it. Those were enough to catch my interest enough to try it out. A very pleasant experience being my first Samsung tablet I've ever used.
These reviewers are too stuck on ipad3 resolutions now. Now if a tablet doesn't have 1080P or better, they write the display off as subpar. 720P is good enough for me as this display isn't your run of the mill 1280x800 dpslay. They did something with it to make it look better than other tabs with same resolution. Maybe its the color reproduction or whatever but I know this display is one of the better ones I've seen. 720P movies and videos/you tube look great on it.
Going to post my response about this here.
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See this type of review makes me really angry. Its ok if a device really sucks but you can cleary tell this guy has a personal vendetta againsr samsung/Touchwiz. I feel if you dont like something then biased opinions should be left out ans they should not review the product. Samsung has been doing touchwiz for a while now ao what made him think that this tablet would come with stock ui. I don't agree with blogs using there popularity to trash a device. Seriously with the picture of the device in the trash. Go back to the laggy xoom.
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Hmmm.
None of samsung and apple devices disappointed me.
I want buy this because of bad review.
I want check it all by myself.
I seem to remember the Asus Transformer Prime getting excellent reviews when it first came out, go figure. One of the worst tablets I ever owned. :/
The Note 10.1 is the best performing Android tablet I've owned so far, no lag at all, everything is fluid.
When did 1080p on a tablet for android become normal?
acer and asus are there any more with that resolution? cause that article makes it seem that is the normal size lol what a boring read
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Yep I went on quite a rant in my response to the review on Android Police Google+ page. I really do not get all the negative reviews of this product.
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Haha, me too, I think I spent at least 4 hours today rebutting comments on the article, on Google+, and on reddit. Most reviews miss the point of the Note completely.
Honestly, I think we users of the Note should write our own reviews, especially focusing on how we find the S Pen useful. Like really, we should make an effort to write more balanced reviews of the device and post them on Google+, reddit, etc. and try to clear up some of the misconceptions.
Does anyone else's tablet creak, because mine certainly does not. And I have yet to experience any lag while writing whatsoever, it's as close to real time as I can discern. I also noticed that if you run javascript animations in the browser while multitasking with another app open, they continue in the browser, so it's not an illusion of multitasking by any means. I can even write, with no lag, in S Note, while animations run in the browser.
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When did 1080p on a tablet for android become normal?
acer and asus are there any more with that resolution? cause that article makes it seem that is the normal size lol
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To be fair, these are the only recent tablets that have come out for $500. I think the point is that at that price they expect a higher resolution, but it's like they expect the S Pen and digitizer to be free, which is incredibly naive.
I think it is good to have a bad review and a good one for the new buyers to find out whats really going on.
Re MSplit Screen
"It only works with the Browser, Polaris Office, S Note, Video Player, Gallery, Email, and that's it. None of those applications are really any good, and I would much rather use Chrome, Google Docs, YouTube, Google Talk, Twitter, and Gmail."
Its a shame to be honets.....it was the reason I wanted to but this tablet.
Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
Same for this one from PC World Australia : (I cannot post direct links yet...)
pcworld.idg.com.au/article/434234/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1_android_tablet/
It seems that the guy who made this review didn't get ANY thing about this tab
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I think it is good to have a bad review and a good one for the new buyers to find out whats really going on.
Re MSplit Screen
"It only works with the Browser, Polaris Office, S Note, Video Player, Gallery, Email, and that's it. None of those applications are really any good, and I would much rather use Chrome, Google Docs, YouTube, Google Talk, Twitter, and Gmail."
Its a shame to be honets.....it was the reason I wanted to but this tablet.
Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
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I think the point is that the review is bad in that it's incomplete and/or misguided and/or biased, not that it's a negative review. As in, the assessment is not accurate and thus should not be used as a recommendation for or against the device. That's how I feel, anyway.
It's currently not possible for other apps, and I doubt any implementation based on the Touchwiz implementation will happen (that's a crapton of smali hacking) but I have a feeling CM10 will actually incorporate some sort of multitasking, as Cyanogen himself stated that he wanted to incorporate Onskreen Cornerstone, or at least similar functionality, into CM9 way back in February.
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Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
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Regarding split screen... just step back and think for a short moment... and you will understand that the custom rom developers would need to heavily modify Android itself.
The display of information on the screen is a core os function. Having more than one app simultanously using the screen requires changes in the Android core. Otherweise this featute will be limited to special versions of Android (like TouchWiz) and special app using it. These special version will delay Android updates as they need to be adapted to major Android releases until they work again.
Android was designed for small screens of smartphones controlled with fingers. Starting with HC on tablets, Google should have implemented this, but it obviously did not happen.
And the feature is rarely useable on a normal smartphone...
You mean the same guys who justified the 8GB in a Nexus7 WITHOUT micro-SD card slot:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-expandable-storage-and-why-its-for-the-best/
Those guys are pure attention-grabbers. Just check the number of comments in that review and compare it against other reviews. They were also *****ing a lot about GS3 menu choice. This is like a bimbo threatening to run naked to grab your attention and get advertisement-clicks in his article.
As I recall the reviewers HATED the Note and it went on to record sales.
You have to undertstand that tech reviewers have a couple disadvantages. Quite often they are reviewing buggy pre-release hardware. Next they tend to be spec nerds. They focus more on pure specs than does the damn thing actually work for people.
Honestly who cares what they say? If I wanted an iPad I would have bought one. Face it, by this time next year everything that is awesome now will suck by comparison.
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The most shocking thing in those reviews is "oh, and it has an S Pen, you can take notes with it" like it was less important than for example number of megapixels in the rear camera. Even the positive reviews mostly ignore S Pen.
Actually, when reading the review - I didn't finish it though, too annoying - the picture of one of these little dogs that tend to bark at anybody and everything kept appearing in front of my inner eye ... this Amadeo guy must be one of these short people.
I couldn't care less for NFC. And resolution, oh my. Everything about this was already stated here. I care for the pen. And that works good enough
Could we bundle up reviews of this tablet in here?
Engadget - Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 review
Verge - Samsung Galaxy Note Pro review
Both are biased garbage in my mind.. Love how one praises the battery life, the other trashes it. I've been frequenting both sites for years and their Apple bias is overwhelming.
Engadget user reviews
Trusted Reviews - Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 review
i noticed this yesterday when i read engadgets review followed by another one on a nother site, and there are so many inconsistencies across the board, now i know our own opinions are subjective based on our view point, but when tech news companies get the basics wrong there is definitely something up. I did see a few people make this point on the engadget blog.
Lets not kid ourselves this device is not perfect but then rarely ever is a device perfect, but to diss the screen for having a tft panel andbad battery life and multitasking is laggy is just a blatant POS by engadget
I have read the Engadget review last night and I hate it when reviewers don't be fair BC its not an apple device . I have read many articles and watched many YouTube reviews about it and I could tell that 80% of them like the tablet. So its pretty trashy when a reviewer tries to go low about it.
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I love Lisas reviews.. She has done a nice job again with Notepro. Check her review from youtube. (Lisa - mobiletech)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1ROA9Svrkw
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Me too she is one of the best tech reviewers also Joshua from android authority is doing a great job
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Really didn't understand engadget review; the battery life seemed like it was near the top of all tablets; but they call it pathetic ? They said they had no need for the pen but then why would they buy the device ? The other comments were valid I guess to a degree cept what they fail to mention is that if you want a screen larger than a 10 inch tablet why would you buy a 10 inch tablet ? The real competitor I think are the 13 inch ultra books and then it comes down to usage/need/weight/battery lfe/price. The better 13inch ultra books are around 1300 to 1700; they are slightly heavier and have similar battery life (8 to 11 hours) and much faster (the yoga 2 is less expensive but has significantly shorter battery life).
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I mention windows ultra book and not the mac airbook/mac pro mostly because they have touch screens (if you want a touch device).
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I'm giving this tablet a try because for my specific application/usage it is fast enough (but just barely); 1lb lighter (20 to 30% which sounds more impressive) has the magical 9+ hours of battery life and is $500-$700 less expensive. My second choice was between the macpro 13inch (kind of heavy); samsung ultra boox and asus 301 (they have like a dozen different ultra book I can't keep the models straight).
I'm torn between this and...well...I guess the opposite end of the spectrum, a Tegra Note 7. I do want a huge screen, but I don't care about resolution, I don't care about weight at all, and I love drawing. I don't need the multi-window stuff, don't need to multitask, necessarily. I've used Android in an office situation for about three years now so I know everything I want to do can be done with Android, but now I want to add in handwriting and drawing.
But all these reviews from all the "main" sites are putting me off of the Pro from lag and stutter. Watching videos I see the lag.
The reason this bothers me is because I got the Acer A700 after pre-ordering and it is nothing but lag..constantly..And I hate it for it. Wish I had waited for reviews on it, and all the reviews tell about how laggy the A700 was. Now I'm seeing a LOT of reviews talking about lag on the Note 12.2, and I'm concerned.
On the A700, lag is just inherent as it is an underpowered system. Even switching launchers, there is still lag.
I've not heard of anyone switching to NOVA or Apex launchers on the 12.2. Would that be the solution to the lag people are experiencing...Is the lag just with TouchWiz, or is it a system flaw?
I am using nova launcher, and the only place lag bothers me is with Chrome. Seems pretty jerky there at times. Any lag i see seems app specific and not system. I would be willing to take some video footage for you if you tell me what you would like to see.
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Can you go to a store and try it?
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Yeah...I could go to the store and try one out, but I don't have cash at the ready. If I go in without having money I may do something stupid like put it on a credit card and accrue interest and have impulse buyer's remorse, etc. (It's all in my head). I'm buying a tablet with our tax return so I won't have fundage for another couple weeks.
A few things I'm wanting to see more of are reading apps like Mantano Reader, Comic Rack, ezPDF. I would also really like to see what the bundled office suite looks like. It's always talked about but never really seen. For me, this is basically a text consumption, document creation, and note taking app for work. Art programs, gaming, and streaming videos at home.
I came across a link to a video review in the note 10 forums for Hanscom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bejig7vQPeE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
it's in Russian but supposedly gives you a good look at it at least
note taking capabilities seem wonderful. handwriting apps like papyrus or lecture notes. Apps like Ever note for typing. Replacement Keyboards like my script stylus beta that instantaneously convert handwriting to typed text . I absolutely adore this keyboard.
I don't use the other apps you mentioned, but could install them and look. probably not until later tonight after kid goes to bed. There is another thread here somewhere about comics on the note pro, Everyone seems to think they look great.
I don't do any heavy gaming - just stuff like mahjong, sudoku, word games. etc I haven't had any trouble with that. My husband however, who just got a note pro too, plays a lot more games. He has been very impressed so far. Games and emulators that our Nexus 10s had trouble with work much better on this tablet.
Here is a YouTube review of gaming on the Note Pro btw. This guy is not the best reviewer in the world, but it might help!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ri6NEL-FOs
I've yet to use any tablet that is 100% lag free. If you're sensitive to this or are simply looking for it, you'll see it somewhere. I just need it to be minor enough so it doesn't impact my usage of the device. Some of the first 1080p tablets were horrible about that.
But I'm finding this latest tablet from Samsung to be pretty darn good. Touch wiz has always had a history of lag. Not here, not with the magazine ux launcher. You can switch it if you want for personal preference, but it won't be due to lag.
Any lag you might see are maybe with the pull down menu or perhaps in certain apps. None of which are effected by the launcher. Sure, I wish everything was 100% smooth everywhere. But I've yet to find such a tablet. For now, this works just fine for my needs and wants. Even without root or modification.
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Thanks! The full written (err, really long) review that goes along with that video review is here: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Pro-12-2.htm
I enjoy the Note product line and "get" the utility of the pen. That helps make for a better review. Sometimes sites use the wrong writer for a review... I'll be politic and saying nothing more.
cheers,
Lisa
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I love Lisas reviews.. She has done a nice job again with Notepro. Check her review from youtube. (Lisa - mobiletech)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1ROA9Svrkw
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I've yet to use any tablet that is 100% lag free. If you're sensitive to this or are simply looking for it, you'll see it somewhere.
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So far, I've noticed most users aren't complaining of it, but most of the review sites do. This gives me hope that reviewers are being dramatic.
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here is another great review from Lisa comparing the pro 12.2 to the 10.1 2014 edition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB4v9TdpDq8
One more, just to keep these all in one thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyOgbNJb1qY
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Thanks! The full written (err, really long) review that goes along with that video review is here: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Pro-12-2.htm
I enjoy the Note product line and "get" the utility of the pen. That helps make for a better review. Sometimes sites use the wrong writer for a review... I'll be politic and saying nothing more.
cheers,
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Your review is one of the best I have seen for a device and will definitely be watching for new ones on other products. Im thinking about starting a review site geared towards the more technologically inclined. Unlike most reviewers I won't suck every apple device's collective nads.
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Lisa thanks for your review of this tablet (well actually for all of your reviews). Your review convinced me to buy it. You and MKBHD are fair, thorough and unbiased. I always check out your reviews (if available) before buying new devices.
http://www.animationinsider.com/2014/03/review-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-by-harry-mclaughlin/
Here's a review of sorts that I did for the site animationinsider.com. It's geared specifically to animation artists, with a focus on apps that are good for professional quality artwork on the Note 12.2. The site shrank my images a little too much, and also messed up the formatting some. (I'm kind of a stickler about those things).
Welcome to the Nexus 6 Full Review Compilation Thread. Feel free to post links to missing reviews and they will get added as I can get to it. Special thanks to xda member shah_vm for collecting a bunch into one place to make this easier!
Mobile Tech Review
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/Nexus-6.htm
The WireCutter Review
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/bes...d-phone/#nexus
Yahoo Tech Review
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/there-are-big-phones-and-then-there-102401634039.html
GStyleMag Review(from our own xda member JMillion!)
http://gstylemag.com/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review/
Techcrunch Review
http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review-a-big-beautiful-cumbersome-beast/
Android Authority Review
http://youtu.be/zCYMABjCt3c
Android Police Review
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review/
PhoneArena Review
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6-Review_id3852
Wall Street Journal Review
http://online.wsj.com/articles/nexu...-youre-going-to-need-a-bigger-hand-1415815359
Mashable Review
http://mashable.com/2014/11/12/google-nexus-6-review/
CNet Review
http://www.cnet.com/products/google-nexus-6/
Gigaom Review
https://gigaom.com/2014/11/12/nexus...t-similar-to-motorolas-other-flagship-phones/
The Street Review
http://www.thestreet.com/story/1295...t-android-phone-ever-if-you-can-find-one.html
Engadget Review
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review/
Venturebeat Review
http://venturebeat.com/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review-stop-the-screen-specs-madness/
Recode Review
http://recode.net/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review-a-sweet-treat-for-those-who-crave-big-phones/
IGN Review
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/11/12/google-nexus-6-review
Anandtech Review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review
BetaNews Review
http://betanews.com/2014/11/12/nexus-6-vanilla-android-never-tasted-so-good-review/
The Verge Review
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/12/7200705/nexus-6-review
Android Central Review
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-6-review
BGR Review
http://bgr.com/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review/
TechnoBuffalo Review
http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/nexus-6-review-a-delight-for-big-phone-fans/
ARS Technica Review
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...e-premium-price-still-comes-with-compromises/
Gizmodo Review
http://gizmodo.com/nexus-6-review-its-time-to-go-big-1657839547
GottaBeMobile Review
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review/
Liliputing Review
http://liliputing.com/2014/11/google-nexus-6-smartphone-review.html
GSMArena Review
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_nexus_6-review-1164.php
SlashGear Review
http://www.slashgear.com/nexus-6-review-you-want-to-lick-this-lollipop-12355150/
Forbes Review
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/12/nexus-6-review/?optimizely=b
The Guardian has a cliff notes synopsis of several of the reviews here if you want a quick overview:
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...us-6-phone-review-roundup-massive-fast-pricey
I will try to add links to reviews as they populate this thread. If you have one not linked to here please PM me the link and I will update so people don't have to search the whole thread to find them. Thanks
Lets see if the embargo isnt pushed a week also..
Let me guess the verge review just for fun, since they gave n5 8.0 and 8.8 to the moto x and they called the best android phone.
Nexus 6 score= 8.5
Pros:
Premium feel
Lollipop is good
Camera is good
Cons:
Too big phablet to fit in your front pocket
No so good screen
No way to buy one at the moment of the review
Pros: only available to the Klingons as a cloaking device!
Cons: no humanoids allowed to have it!
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Lets see if the embargo isnt pushed a week also..
Let me guess the verge review just for fun, since they gave n5 8.0 and 8.8 to the moto x and they called the best android phone.
Nexus 6 score= 8.5
Pros:
Premium feel
Lollipop is good
Camera is good
Cons:
Too big phablet to fit in your front pocket
No so good screen
No way to buy one at the moment of the review
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No this would be the verge rating:
Pros:
Big screen
Cons:
Not an iPhone
Not made by Apple
Doesn't have an Apple logo
6/10
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No this would be the verge rating:
Pros:
Big screen
Cons:
Not an iPhone
Not made by Apple
Doesnt have an Apple logo
6/10
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You left one:
Doesnt work with iwatch
I really really think that nexus 6 will get a 9 (or close 8.8/8.9) from verge and 90 from engadget. They're iVerge, i admit but don't lie. They exaggerate that's all
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No this would be the verge rating:
Pros:
Big screen
Cons:
Not an iPhone
Not made by Apple
Doesn't have an Apple logo
6/10
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Hhahaha, love it! Freakin iVerge
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I really really think that nexus 6 will get a 9 (or close 8.8/8.9) from verge and 90 from engadget. They're iVerge, i admit but don't lie. They exaggerate that's all
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Not much difference between lying and exaggerating. iVerge is correct and I wouldn't look to them for a review on anything.
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No this would be the verge rating:
Pros:
Big screen
Cons:
Not an iPhone
Not made by Apple
Doesn't have an Apple logo
6/10
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Hhahaha, love it! Freakin iVerge
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LMAO!!! its funny bc its true..
plasmastate said:
I really really think that nexus 6 will get a 9 (or close 8.8/8.9) from verge and 90 from engadget. They're iVerge, i admit but don't lie. They exaggerate that's all
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http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/11/motorola-droid-turbo-review/ got a 90 today so unless there are surprises the Nexus 6 should score higher based on lack of exclusivity, its dual front facing stereo speakers, Android L, design closer to a larger Moto X but with a smaller battery than Turbo & they may not detract for the lower pixel density..
Motorola Droid Turbo
PROS
Long battery life
Attractive Quad HD screen
Powerful performance
Camera a clear improvement over the Moto X's
CONS
Less charming design than the Moto X
No expandable memory
It's exclusive to Verizon
SUMMARY
While it lacks the style and charm of the 2014 Moto X, the Droid Turbo is a powerhouse that manages to outperform its relative in nearly every way that matters. Sadly, it's a Verizon exclusive so the rest of you (unless you live in Brazil and Mexico and buy a Moto Maxx) need not apply..
The Moto X and the Droid Turbo both sport 5.2-inch AMOLED screens, but that's where the similarities end (much to the chagrin of X owners, I'd wager). That's because the panel Motorola used on the Turbo runs at Quad HD (or 2,560 x 1,440, if you haven't already committed it to memory), making it one of the most pixel-dense displays you'll find on a smartphone. The effect, as you'd imagine, is pretty stunning. Your stories, your videos, your apps; they're going to look just lovely. That said, a screen like this will make you all too aware that the internet is peppered with low-res images and icons, so be ready to shield your eyes whenever you come across them. Skype is a good example of this visual discrepancy in action: Your messages will look crisp, while emoticons will be tiny since they're so low-res.
At some point, though, you've got to wonder when (or even if) enough will be enough. Do all those extra pixels crammed into each linear inch really make a difference? We're getting to the point where the inability to distinguish one pixel from another is just a given, so all the other factors suddenly become more important. The Turbo's Super AMOLED panel, for instance, can oscillate between bright, punchy colors and sumptuous blacks. The downside is that images and video take on a slightly warm cast (Sutton Foster look distinctly tanned in one of my test videos), which won't be everyone's cup of tea. Viewing angles are solid too, if not the best I've come across, and even at maximum brightness, the Turbo's screen still doesn't light up the night with quite the same vigor as the Moto X.
Ah, but here's the rub! That screen might lend itself well to your video collection, but the single-speaker setup isn't going to thrill you. Frankly, this part's a little frustrating -- even the budget-priced Moto G has a pair of front-facing speakers, while the clearly higher-end Turbo has to make do with one less driver. The end result is audio that's plenty loud, but cramped and muddy, without much distinction between channels. That's not to say the speaker's bad, per se; it's on par with most of the speakers in other smartphones, which is to say they get the job done and don't aspire to much more. Keep a pair of headphones handy and you'll never have to worry about it..
The Droid Turbo is frustrating. It's objectively better than the Moto X in most of the ways that matter: Its battery is tremendous (if not as amazing as Verizon claims); the screen is lovely; and the camera is actually worth using. Some might say this is the phone the Moto X should've been in the first place, and I can't argue with that. Still, as ridiculous as it sounds, the Turbo is severely lacking in the charm that made the X so pleasant, and that shouldn't be discounted. Go to a store. Play with both. You'll see what I mean. The fact that only Verizon customers can currently buy such a great phone doesn't help matters either.
Here's what it boils down to: The Droid Turbo is an undeniably great device and probably the best carrier-exclusive phone since the days of, well, the original Motorola Droid. It won't win any awards for design or sound quality, but that won't make anyone who already bought a Moto X feel better.
Full at: http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/11/motorola-droid-turbo-review/
Who cares what the Verge says? I only read to their articles to see the very small nitpicks that other sites usually miss but they are pretty biased towards Apple. I'm looking forward to reviews by AndroidPolice, AndroidAuthority, MKBHD, Anandtech, MobileTechReview and TheDetroitBorg.
msal said:
Who cares what the Verge says? I only read to their articles to see the very small nitpicks that other sites usually miss but they are pretty biased towards Apple. I'm looking forward to reviews by AndroidPolice, AndroidAuthority, MKBHD, Anandtech, MobileTechReview and TheDetroitBorg.
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These are some great ones for sure!
Joshnor713 said:
Hhahaha, love it! Freakin iVerge
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Lw00d said:
LMAO!!! its funny bc its true..
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Lol their Nexus 9 review is ridiculious. They mentioned the iPad 26 times
msal said:
Who cares what the Verge says? I only read to their articles to see the very small nitpicks that other sites usually miss but they are pretty biased towards Apple. I'm looking forward to reviews by AndroidPolice, AndroidAuthority, MKBHD, Anandtech, MobileTechReview and TheDetroitBorg.
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AndroidPolice, AndroidAuthority, MKBHD (great 4K videos), Anandtech, MobileTechReview (good long videos) do tend to go much more in depth including the YouTube channels linked (though never heard of TheDetroitBorg).. I also check out https://www.youtube.com/user/jon4lakers/videos even though they luv Apple & don't go as in depth as they used to..
I do like the increasing well lighted 4K video reviews (or at least 1080p).. expect more soon at https://www.youtube.com/results?lclk=today&filters=today&search_query=nexus+6:good:
If someone took an iPhone and painted over the fruit logo and gave it to Verge for review, they'd find a way to slam it. Least objective and most biased site out there. I still can't get over how they said the Note 4 was too big, yet the iPhone 6+ which is bigger with a smaller screen was said to be easier to hold. The site is a total joke.
Sadly one of the best sites, AnandTech, also lost its objectivity when Anand joined Apple and long before that, they were also Apple biased.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
AndroidPolice, AndroidAuthority, MKBHD (great 4K videos), Anandtech, MobileTechReview (good long videos) do tend to go much more in depth including the YouTube channels linked (though never heard of TheDetroitBorg).. I also check out https://www.youtube.com/user/jon4lakers/videos even though they luv Apple & don't go as in depth as they used to..
I do like the increasing well lighted 4K video reviews (or at least 1080p).. expect more soon at https://www.youtube.com/results?lclk=today&filters=today&search_query=nexus+6:good:
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DetroitBorg is an Apple user but his reviews are very informative, he goes in-depth and his videos just look great. Top notch reviewer imo.
Anyone know if there is a time expiration for the embargo or just date? If date we could see something in the next 20 minutes or so.
Alex Maxham seems to have jumped the gun a bit with a poorly lighted 3:48 min:sec "review" (briefly compares to Note4 toward end with audible speakers albeit just annoying notification sounds)
Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uPnZ6yR5hA
https://www.youtube.com/results?lclk=hour&search_query=nexus+6&filters=hour&spfreload=10
Why did Google require reviewers that already have the device wait till the 12th before releasing a review?
Daps said:
Why did Google require reviewers that already have the device wait till the 12th before releasing a review?
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Because that was supposed to be the "release" date, when they set the NDA to end.