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Hey guys, I have ALWAYS had cingular/at&t so I'm a little hesitant about switching carriers. Until yesterday I was assuming I would just go buy a plan and get another G1 for $180 but Im starting to think other options are better. I have it narrowed down to getting the G1 on amazon for $90 with a contract or just finding a way to get a T-mobile sim card (which means I would have to change phone #s), I wouldnt get a good deal on a new G1 but I would be free from a contract. Im just looking for any feedback on the topic so if you have some lay it on me.
I got my G1 on Craigslist for $200. It was a wee bit scratched (not the screen) but other than that, it's been flawless.
Could you do prepaid? If so, you could just go ask for a pp-sim card at a TMo store.
That would also allow # portability, I believe.
But, TMo is a pretty good provider, given you live in a reasonably metro area (I am 45min south of Sacramento, for example, and get good 3G speed). So, a $90+2yr ain't a bad proposition.
-bZj
I've been with T-Mobile for a few years, they've got great customer service and really great priced plans which is why I like them so much. If you're heart set on a G1 then Craigslist might be your best bet for a good priced used one. They usually go for around 200 or so. Or if you can wait until July 22nd thats when the Touch Pro 2 is supposedly going to be released (though I don't think T-Mobile has actually confirmed the release yet lol).
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im running the G1 on at&t fine. Is there a specific reason to move over? If it is the phone you want then its not too bad on craigslist (seen some for 220 unlocked) I guess it depends on your area though.
I shelled out the full $400 at a local cell store for a brand new out-of-contract G1 a few months ago. Been using it on AT&T without any issues. The only drawback is not having 3G connection because AT&T uses a different frequency, and the G1 is designed for the T-Mobile frequencies.
So I got a mt4g my remorse ends the 19th...I got the mt4g thru t-mobile loyalty for 150 if I wanted the nexus s would they give me the same deal?
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Nope. I'm in the same boat as you. talked to retentions about that issue myself. The prob is that they put a change in the system for the transaction of the phone they are giving you to upgrade so you don't pay full price for the phone.
Since nexus is only available through best buy (third party) they can't help you. That's what retentions told me anyway. I like the mt4g but miss the extra screen real estate, and all of the ones they sent me have the washed out screen.
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Were you off contract when you purchased this upgrade? If so once you return your phone your account should reflect that your contract period is expired, if that is the case you should then be able to go into best buy resign for two years and get the phone for $200. I talked to best buy about this yesterday.
what they did was wave my old contract and started it new when i phone ordered the mt4g 2 weeks ago
jayrod yeah im missing the screen space too!
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what they did was wave my old contract and started it new when i phone ordered the mt4g 2 weeks ago
jayrod yeah im missing the screen space too!
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If thats the case then when you return the mt4g your contract should revert to the old contract. If you were past your two years you should qualify for the $200 price.
Do you have to get a data plan with the Nexus S if you purchase it with a contract?
And if so, can that data plan ever be canceled later on by calling Tmobile? For example, if I wanted to get the Nexus S as a gift, but wanted to save some money. I have a line on my family plan eligible for upgrade, say I upgrade it with that line, am then forced to get a data plan, but I give the Nexus S as a gift to someone who will use their own data plan... can I cancel the data plan that I had to purchase on my line which I upgraded with?
Just return the phone to T-mobile. They'll reinstate your upgrade, cancel your contract, put you on your old terms. Then simply go to best buy and reup through them.
It doesn't work like that, I called tmobile today, they told me to make sure with best buy because 3rd party suppliers can't see phone has been returned, I work @ bb and after shift talked to the bb mobile manager n he said the same that tmobile just puts a note on you # saying avalable for upgrade n they can't see it because tmobile doesn't update the computer...thus it can't be done so a lot of people who took advantage from remorse might not get this
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It doesn't work like that, I called tmobile today, they told me to make sure with best buy because 3rd party suppliers can't see phone has been returned, I work @ bb and after shift talked to the bb mobile manager n he said the same that tmobile just puts a note on you # saying avalable for upgrade n they can't see it because tmobile doesn't update the computer...thus it can't be done so a lot of people who took advantage from remorse might not get this
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Why are you telling t-mobile anything about best buy?
All you have to do is tell tmobile your dissatisfied with the phone upgrade you used. Tell then you're going to wait until a better phone comes out a few months from now, and you want to go back to your old rate.
(that's what the remorse period is for).
Then simple stroll into best buy and use the upgrade your entitled to.
That's the point, returning the phone won't AUTOMATICALLY cancel your new contract and revert back, so BB wont see the upgrade available!
Last year I upgraded to mytouch3g, returned it 20 days later then a week later closed my account. This was done at a tmobile corporate store. Tmobile charged me etf. When I called to dispute, they had to call the tmobile store and they had to look up my account at the store and confirm that I returned the phone.
If they had this much prob at a corp store, you're going to have probs returning and next day going to BB to try and upgrade to Nexus S, cuz systems aren't connected and etc.
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Why are you telling t-mobile anything about best buy?
All you have to do is tell tmobile your dissatisfied with the phone upgrade you used. Tell then you're going to wait until a better phone comes out a few months from now, and you want to go back to your old rate.
(that's what the remorse period is for).
Then simple stroll into best buy and use the upgrade your entitled to.
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i told them and asked best buy to make sure i send the phone back or not, best buy said they can't do that, the upgrade will not show up for bestbuy it will only show up for tmobile...i dont want to pay 200 to cancel and 200 for the phone either
My problem is that I got the mt4g when I wasn't eligible, I complained about my vibrant never getting accurate gps, even after exchanges, and they gave me the mt4g for a little lower than upgrade pricing. Ifi go back and return the phone I go back to my non upgrade status anyway. Retentions just gave me a sweetheart deal for the new phone.
I guess with my 100 buck best buy card, and selling my mt4g and vibrant I could get the nexus for a couple hundred. Just not sure I should go that route. The mt4g has some awesome hardware, but having the washed out screen that's too small and a tiny rom selection is driving me crazy. If my vibrant didn't have gps issues I would just keep it and never gone this route anyway.
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thats my same issue, i complained about freezing hd2 and they gave me the mt4g for 149.99
when i asked her she said i would eligible for upgrade still if i decided to wait
Sell the mytouch and pay the difference when you buy it outright. Should come out the same.
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So I got a mt4g my remorse ends the 19th...I got the mt4g thru t-mobile loyalty for 150 if I wanted the nexus s would they give me the same deal?
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ps...make sure you are counting your 14 or (30 days in california) correctly. For example, the 19th of this month to the 19 of next month may be over 30 days! Got to count the actual days!
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That's the point, returning the phone won't AUTOMATICALLY cancel your new contract and revert back, so BB wont see the upgrade available!
Last year I upgraded to mytouch3g, returned it 20 days later then a week later closed my account. This was done at a tmobile corporate store. Tmobile charged me etf. When I called to dispute, they had to call the tmobile store and they had to look up my account at the store and confirm that I returned the phone.
If they had this much prob at a corp store, you're going to have probs returning and next day going to BB to try and upgrade to Nexus S, cuz systems aren't connected and etc.
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YES, its as easy as returning your phone and waiting for your cantract to revert. I suppose it might take a bit longer for best buy to update your contract but using that theory I could go get an MT4G 4g through t-mobile for $200 and then go get a Nexus S at best buy for $200 because that data isn't live based on what your are saying. Hell I might as well hit up 7 best buy stores in an hour and buy all the nexus s's in the area and bootleg them because best buy has no idea about my contract status.
Do then how do we go about returning a phone and getting the nexus s? I was out a contract but then got the mt4g with upgrade. I'm thinking about getting the nexus s. My remorse is up on the 26th. So would I have to return it now in order for bb to see my available upgrade? Does anyone know how long it takes for 3rd party store computers to update a contract status?
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I got the G2 a few days prior to release at Radio Shack.
I got the upgrade price and didn't need a rebate or anything...
I found out yesterday that T-Mobile didn't register this purchase as an upgrade....
Nexus S... here I come.
Really a Nexus S? My dad just returned his second one and got a mytouch4G.
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Maybe if I didn't have a G2 I would consider the MT4G... But since I already have what I consider the best T-Mobile phone for my personal use, I can get the Nexus S solely to be on the bleeding edge of google updates and not bother rooting it or anything.
True. Just a heads up my dad has a loud car and the noise canceling would cause some weird issues. When he was driving the person on the other line would hear my dad with an echo, muffled, or choppy. In the loud car it was choppy, in all other cars it was echoy and muffled. This was on both phones.
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lucky bastard.
Since you have one of the latest phones, I would hold out on the nexus S and just wait til Feb and get a dualcore phone
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lucky bastard.
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x2!!!
The Nexus S isn't of interest to me. The G2/DZ is a lot better give or take a few tiny things that I don't really care about much.
I'd probably purchase whatever phone gets the best price on eBay and sell it for profit.
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Since you have one of the latest phones, I would hold out on the nexus S and just wait til Feb and get a dualcore phone
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Second this. CES is less than a month away and there's sure to be some new phone announcements there - I'd give it a few weeks and see what happens - might be nothing, but it'd suck to get the Nexus S and then something cooler come out in February.
You took my upgrade, lol
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I got the G2 a few days prior to release at Radio Shack.
I got the upgrade price and didn't need a rebate or anything...
I found out yesterday that T-Mobile didn't register this purchase as an upgrade....
Nexus S... here I come.
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That's sooo not cool! I had the opposite thing happen.
I returned my wife's G2 from Radio Shack after having called before and from Radio Shack to see if I would then be able to get the $100 from Costco and they said yes. The upgrade never got removed, They even said that 3rd party upgrades sometimes NEVER get removed. I wrote a letter to corporate and everything and it took 10 days to get the matter resolved and a G2 for $100.
You're sooo lucky!
I have the plan with NO chance of an upgrade But considerably cheaper every month. Had to get the G2 with the monthly no interest payments on the account. My school offers at 15% discount on the full plan with upgrades, but even with that I'd be paying more.
What I hate is that they put a gun to your head to get a data plan with an android phone! My house gets horrible data coverage, and she doesn't have much use for it anyways. When she does, I just tether to her. So I really hate that. She's stuck on a G1, I'm trying to get her a My Touch Slide.
Though when the rep asked "how necessary is an android device?" "mandatory"
I used 2 work at radioshack... when district (or whoever audits their t-mobile transactions) finds out that that employee didn't qualify the upgrade that store is going to get hit with the difference idk $200-400 loss bahahahha!
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I have the plan with NO chance of an upgrade But considerably cheaper every month. Had to get the G2 with the monthly no interest payments on the account. My school offers at 15% discount on the full plan with upgrades, but even with that I'd be paying more.
What I hate is that they put a gun to your head to get a data plan with an android phone! My house gets horrible data coverage, and she doesn't have much use for it anyways. When she does, I just tether to her. So I really hate that. She's stuck on a G1, I'm trying to get her a My Touch Slide.
Though when the rep asked "how necessary is an android device?" "mandatory"
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You *do* realize that's not RadioShack's policy, but the carrier's, right? In fact, all 4 major carriers now *require* a data plan with any smartphone. It's not even an option to the salesperson - the system detects the IMEI and automatically adds the data plan along the way.
So I was going to buy a G2 today. The guy that was selling it to me works at a T-mobile kiosk in the mall (actually, he said that he owned them at that particular mall), and I wanted to test out the data speeds with my sim card. I currently have a nexus 1. Well, I am really glad that did that before buying the phone because I found out that you need to upgrade to a 4G data plan after trying to browse the web on the phone. I don't know why that never occurred to me in the first place. I am off contract right now and didn't want to recommit to another two years, plus being able to tether and use as a wifi hotspot for free is a nice perk, haha. Granted, I guess COULD change all that with rooting, but the whole process confuses me and I have yet to take the plunge on my N1. Also, I am currently testing out whether I would get throttled with my current plan because I have 3 days left on this billing cycle. So am doing everything i can to use data. Anyway, the guy wanted $290 for the phone, but it was a little bit more dinged up than I would have cared, plus some very light scratches on the screen. The spring was also very VERY loose.
Tmobile doesn't not charge extra for "4G".
There is no 4G data plan and it isn't extra. That kiosk does not sound very reputable, either.
Also, the n1 is super easy to root since it was basically made for it.
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If you are off contract all you need to do is call customer care, shout "retention" until you get forwarded to a rep and have them add a $10 data plan to your em+ plan. Even better, get onto the internet live service rep directly & explain what it is you're trying to do. I have found that they're much better at directly answering questions & implementing plan changes than the telephone jockeys.
This guy is trying to jerk your proverbial chicken.
I also find it hard to believe that you haven't rooted your n1. What rock have you been living under?
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I also find it hard to believe that you haven't rooted your n1. What rock have you been living under?
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Lol I just haven't had much need to do it until recently, I guess. Plus might send it in for a warranty exchange because I have some dust under the screen and I dont want them to squawk at me for rooting the phone.
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There is no 4G data plan and it isn't extra. That kiosk does not sound very reputable, either.
Also, the n1 is super easy to root since it was basically made for it.
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I pay $35 per month for unlimited text and data. He said I would have to sign on for a $30 per month 4G data plan and then $15 for unlimited texts because I didn't want to renew my contract. $30 + $15 = $45, or ten dollars more. I reckon I could call tmo directly, but I just haven't put much thought into it.
Answer is simple, send it in for an exchange and if they can't give you another N1, have them send you a g2.
If it is to much of a concern, you could offer the guy $290 for the physical phone, get tmo to change your plan and replace the springs with the recently posted guide. Even with some scratches, $290 is a hell of a deal for a g2.
I have had the t-mobile t-zones $5.99 plan for over 4 years, now grandfathered, but it works flawlessly on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (WM6.5). No issues there. That phone however is only 3g.
I live in an area with full 4g spectrum and would surely like to make use of that.
With that said, i bought a non-contract HTC myTouch 4g.
After popping in my SIM, the web browser forwards me to an upsell page, where it asks me to upgrade my plan to a $30 android plan.
Now, times are tough and the gold is scarce so i'm definitely not looking to get a $25 jump in my plan, times two (for my wife too) total $50/mo more... for something that we already have for years.
I've tried various settings for APN that i could find from some forums but everything leads me back to the upsell page.
epc, wap, internet1, internet2 ... etc..
Interestingly I had tested this out on a friends phone a few months ago before buying my own, (myTouch 4G) using my SIM and it gave me an awesome throughput of close to 7megs down.
T-mo tech support said it'll not work with the $5.99 tzones as the android phone accesses the data in a different way! baloney!
Please point me in the right direction...
Has anyone made this work ?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks!
Vik
s6a6n6d6m6a6n said:
I have had the t-mobile t-zones $5.99 plan for over 4 years, now grandfathered, but it works flawlessly on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (WM6.5). No issues there. That phone however is only 3g.
I live in an area with full 4g spectrum and would surely like to make use of that.
With that said, i bought a non-contract HTC myTouch 4g.
After popping in my SIM, the web browser forwards me to an upsell page, where it asks me to upgrade my plan to a $30 android plan.
Now, times are tough and the gold is scarce so i'm definitely not looking to get a $25 jump in my plan, times two (for my wife too) total $50/mo more... for something that we already have for years.
I've tried various settings for APN that i could find from some forums but everything leads me back to the upsell page.
epc, wap, internet1, internet2 ... etc..
Interestingly I had tested this out on a friends phone a few months ago before buying my own, (myTouch 4G) using my SIM and it gave me an awesome throughput of close to 7megs down.
T-mo tech support said it'll not work with the $5.99 tzones as the android phone accesses the data in a different way! baloney!
Please point me in the right direction...
Has anyone made this work ?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks!
Vik
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The support person was telling the truth, the phone really requires the 30 bux to get data. There's always the cheaper data w/ 200MB if you want that(Will use really quickly!). There's no way to avoid this,even if you are grandfathered in.
Unfortunately they know which phone your using from the imei number, and therefore block it. If you another phone that showed it as unknown or any phone that came out during that promotion would have worked.
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no wonder t-mo cant make it... no one should expect any company to give 4g for $6, let along unlimited 4g.
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Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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T-zone will work with any phone that is not a Blackberry, Android, Windows, or Symbian. The Nokia Nuron and the Samsung Gravity T are the two most popular options for that data feature.
bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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I agree. If you can afford to buy two MT4Gs off contract you can afford the data plan.
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bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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We're all paying for smartphone data. What makes this guy think we'll help him scam the system and get way more than he's pay for?
Dude I understand ur pain...u should return that device an get a non T-Mobile android phone.
It will be not be detected if it is an ATT phone for example and therefore will not required u to add a data plan, viceversa is the sameway. U see O .
But If you add it...certainly u will see a big difference on the use that you can give it to you PDA.
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navarde said:
Dude I understand ur pain...u should return that device an get a non T-Mobile android phone.
It will be not be detected if it is an ATT phone for example and therefore will not required u to add a data plan, viceversa is the sameway. U see O .
But If you add it...certainly u will see a big difference on the use that you can give it to you PDA.
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AT&T phones will only get EDGE on T-mobile, and vice verse. Now if you get a Canadian HTC Glacier (myTouch 4G) or something it might be a different story...
I know how you feel. When I signed my wife up a year ago I had an iPhone and was using the T-Zones plan flawlessly. They saw that and were like, "t-zones doesn't even exist anymore" and made me upgrade my iPhone to a $20 plan. When I got the MT4G I had to upgrade to the $30 plan. It works well, but you're right, it's a lot of money...
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bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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TeeJay3800 said:
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We're all paying for smartphone data. What makes this guy think we'll help him scam the system and get way more than he's pay for?
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My judgmental friends, i'm looking for technical advise... not financial or personal.
You don't know me, nor my situation so don't judge.
And yes, i do drive an expensive car and I wouldn't mind taking it to Walmart if they serviced it or there was a Walmart nearby.
Please pay attention to this :
1. I've had t-zones for ages and over this period it has worked flawlessly with most models of Blackberry i have owned.
2. I have HTC Touch Pro 2, which runs WM6.5 for last 2 years and i get super 3G speeds unlimited, not the razor era Bamm Bamm!
3. I tested my SIM out with a colleagues HTC myTouch 4G before i got my own - and it worked awesome a month or so ago.
So in essence it's not the protocol the phone is accessing TCP, it's something T-Mobile is blocking.
This move by t-mobile would be justified if i got the device from them for free and obviously being fair, they want to recover their cost.
And yes, getting a non-contract phone is cheaper than getting a contract one in this case... astonishingly i used my 3rd grade math to figure that out.
In closing, i personally do not believe in the notion that "it cannot be done..." someone is already figuring it out somewhere in the world while you were saying that!!!!
Peace!
Technically, theoretically, there is a way to keep your tzones with tmobile by changing one number. But I think its illegal to do, nor will I tell you. And I think you will still be 3g...
I have to say suck it up and pay the piper. Oh and the data is $20 for preffered customers.
Why do you deserve to pay only $6 when the rest of us are paying for it? I've been on tmo since voice stream....
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Aggreed you can get 20 android web as a long standing customer. To get t zones to work you'll need to spoof your imei. And FWIW the nexus1 works with t zones because it was never sold in stores or thru tmo.
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DUDDES!!! THE INTENT OF XDA IS FOR SUPPORT.
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Technical support, I agree with u. If you had purchased a different PDA on different provider it would not required to update your service. The network recognizes the imei of the phone and by the new pda policy you have to add a data.
It happens with every provider.
Good luck man.
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Just to help the OP out, the reason why the mytouch 4g probably worked was because you inserted a new sim into the phone. That's why, alot of phones work the first couple days using a phone with tzones but after a couple days, you're sent to the upsell page. Tmobile has a listing of all the imei's that they sell.
The nexus one was not officially sold through tmobile - always sold through google.com. As such, tmobile doesn't "have" your imei to know, but they kinda do. if you called into 611 in the first few months of the nexus one release, it sent you to google for tech support vs. tmobiles helpline. however, tmobile just chose to never block the nexus one. however, if you bought a g2, mytouch 4g, nexus s, etc....your tzones normally works for about 24-48 hours and then boom...upsell page. I know this cause everytime there's a new phone release, i try to see if it works on tzones. I personally can understand not wanting to leave tzones. I have it from when it was 2.99 + i get a 18% student discount that has yet to stop too. it's hard for me to let go of unlimited internet for so cheap, but in all honesty, i make enough money where i probably should pay the $20 for the unlimited android plan so i don't have to be so picky and choosy with my phones. before the whole 3g craze, i would change phones every few months.....and now, i keep using my nexus one and buy other phones and won't relinquish the nexus one because it's incompatible with the cheap data plan. I think i just might let it go for the sensation 4g though, we'll see. i've had to say goodbye to a tmobile g2, nexus s, and g2x already.
hey u guys only pay 20 bucks for unlimited data on the mytouch 4g? they charge me 30 dollars and i have been with tmobile since 2009 lol
Need a promo plan to get promo data. Got 3 lines unlimited text, 3K mins, and unlimited data with the 5GB soft cap, not 2GB. Paying 175. Also my line routinely bumps 10GB plus without any balk from tmo. Maybe cuz my mom doesn't touch her data so they let me munch off her allotment.
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