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tmobile 3g speeds

this is my first week using tmobile in the US with the nexus one.
I am not able to get download speeds more than 800kbps. it does not matter how good the reception is.
I have tried in various places in north CA and in cleveland OH.
I think that such speeds are pretty bad for 3g. with at&t I used to 2-3mbps at times.
my friend with the verizon droid is seeing 1.5mbps-2.5mbps download speed .
what are other users on tmobile are seeing?
seems like tmobile is rate limiting the speeds or their network is just really bad.

How are u measuring the speed? I use the speed test app and it used to have a server close by in San Jose (65 mi) now I have to use a server in new Mexico and I'm in CA so that makes it seem slower too

There are two apps in the market i test with: speedtest.net and extreme speed test.
I also checked with the laptop tethered to the phone. same pathetic speeds. i can hardly call it 3g comparing to the competitors.
Is it the phone or is it tmobiles network?

clubtech said:
There are two apps in the market i test with: speedtest.net and extreme speed test.
I also checked with the laptop tethered to the phone. same pathetic speeds. i can hardly call it 3g comparing to the competitors.
Is it the phone or is it tmobiles network?
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i just got 2MB/s up and 400 kb/s down
WOW thats whats im talking about best ive ever seen
still waiting for those 6mb/s up and 1mb/s down (a.k.a. my cable high speed enternet at home)

I have never seen verizon that fast in my area, generally 500 kbits to 1mbits but I would say that you are getting the norm for tmo as mine have never reached 1 mbit but can go past 10 mbit on wifi.
BGR did a test a while back although not scientific agrees with the tests I have done in my area.
BGR Carrier Wars
Average Download Speed
1. Sprint: 1361kbs
2. AT&T: 933kbps
3. T-Mobile: 786kbps
4. Verizon: 701kbps
Average Upload Speed
1. Verizon: 322kbps
2. Sprint: 267kbps
3. AT&T: 180kbps
4. T-Mobile: 177kbps

Try this speed test....
I usually see 1000 - 1200 kbps but quite often see 1700 - 2000 kbps using the speedtest.net app in the android market. Something to remember, your 3G connection is initially UMTS and will switch to HSDPA on demand and when available. You may notice that your first test will show a ping of ~300ms and speeds of 500 - 700 kbps (UMTS), but if you hit "test again" immediately after the first test completes you should see a ping of about ~175ms and approximately double the speed (HSDPA). I've noticed that the default server (closest server according to the speedtest.net app) is usually slow and doesn't give me proper results. I've had very good luck using the Chicago server. Try using the Chicago server and run back-to-back tests, let us know if your results change.

I would agree T-Mobile's 3G is crap. Using a Rogers G1 on AT&T using speedtest.net app, I was seeing over 2Mbit down and over 800kbit up consistently.
T-Mobile's so called "7.2 Mbit upgrade" is a joke. Kind of like their coverage maps. I want to like them, but at least in my area, AT&T obliterates them. It's too big of a different for me. If an AT&T 3G compatible nexus one is released, I will have to get one. I could probably live with the slower speeds if the coverage wasn't so spotty.
Your move T-Immobile.
-James

jmacdonald801 said:
I would agree T-Mobile's 3G is crap. Using a Rogers G1 on AT&T using speedtest.net app, I was seeing over 2Mbit down and over 800kbit up consistently.
T-Mobile's so called "7.2 Mbit upgrade" is a joke. Kind of like their coverage maps. I want to like them, but at least in my area, AT&T obliterates them. It's too big of a different for me. If an AT&T 3G compatible nexus one is released, I will have to get one. I could probably live with the slower speeds if the coverage wasn't so spotty.
Your move T-Immobile.
-James
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As a former T-Mo Wireless Engineer Intern, I can tell you that there is only a very very small roll out on 7.2 right now. They are testing the network before they enable more circuits. The original plan when I worked there was for a gradual 2 city per month rollout. Then slowly build the network to cope with added traffic. Its suppose to be a gradual process that will also involve using old equipment and expanding current 3g service. The high speed roll out was priority one, then is service expansion. Also contracts were involved last I saw that would expand coverage 2-fold, but negotiations for tower rights were falling through, so I don't know where thats going.

hamshu said:
As a former T-Mo Wireless Engineer Intern, I can tell you that there is only a very very small roll out on 7.2 right now. They are testing the network before they enable more circuits. The original plan when I worked there was for a gradual 2 city per month rollout. Then slowly build the network to cope with added traffic. Its suppose to be a gradual process that will also involve using old equipment and expanding current 3g service. The high speed roll out was priority one, then is service expansion. Also contracts were involved last I saw that would expand coverage 2-fold, but negotiations for tower rights were falling through, so I don't know where thats going.
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Wow, talk about an honest answer. If I could just get coverage at my house, I could support team Magenta
-James

There is an issue with 3g on the nexus that has been commented on a number of times, and that is the flapping of UMTS and HSDPA. (not to be confused with those flapping between 2g and 3g). With my G1 I was able to get speeds as high as 3Mbit, but I too have only seen 800Kbit max on my nexus and I believe its due to this constant flapping of 3g technologies.

Today is my first day on tmobile with the N1, I've been running on Edge ATT.
I was worried about switching over because my gf has had tmobile and doesn't have great service at our house.
I was afraid mine would be worse with the 3g issues the N1 has been having but it appears to be almost identical to hers.
in my living room we get 1-2 bars 3g and I see test speeds of 50-300 down and 950-1250 up.
I go to my office right above the living room and get 3 bars and 700-900 down speeds with 700-900 up speeds.
No stoked about it but I havnt had any signal swapping issues so I'm going to use it for GPS to test out now and see how it does. GPS and mapping even on edge with ATT was super fast so I have high hopes.

bofslime said:
There is an issue with 3g on the nexus that has been commented on a number of times, and that is the flapping of UMTS and HSDPA. (not to be confused with those flapping between 2g and 3g). With my G1 I was able to get speeds as high as 3Mbit, but I too have only seen 800Kbit max on my nexus and I believe its due to this constant flapping of 3g technologies.
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So are you saying that if you pop in the SIM card from the N1 to the G1 in the same place you get 3Mbps vs. 800Kbps on the N1?

clubtech said:
So are you saying that if you pop in the SIM card from the N1 to the G1 in the same place you get 3Mbps vs. 800Kbps on the N1?
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Correct, I get full signal at my work (-63dBm 25asu). The G1 didn't skip around and stuck firmly to UMTS, and I was getting much better rates with it. My N1 however maxes out at no more than 800.

@jmcdonald what are you agreeing with LOL were talking about decent speeds then you say you agree with the low speeds??? LOL
Anyway I don't have 3g flopping problems neither did I on my g1

I am seeing speeds in most cases upward of 2.2 mbps... and am even averaging over 1mbps in upload speeds which is pretty good when I have full 3g reception in the Northern NJ area.

I get anywhere from 2.0 - 3.5Mbps down on average, and I have seen up to 4.5Mbps down on occasion. Up is always around 1 - 1.3Mbps.
However, I'm in Philadelphia, and we have HSPA+

Wow, I don't know how you guys are getting DL speeds upwards of 1.5mbps! Here in San Diego, the most I've seen anyone on ATT get is around 1.2mbps, and 1.1 on Sprint. Tmo is usually anywhere from 700-1mbps with some spikes over that now and then.
My G1 and N1 get the same speed range.

I'm in Maryland, just outside of D.C. I also just switched from AT&T to T-Mobile (yesterday actually). I'm also getting DL speeds of like 700-800 kbps. Hope it will someday be a little faster than that.

download - 137kbps
upload - 217kbps

From all the repots in this post it seems that tmob is just slower in some parts of the country and faster in others.
I hope they are planning on catching as 700-800kbps is a joke.

3G speeds?

While I know similar stuff has been posted many times, I just have a question. When I had a Palm Pre and using homebrew I remember this unthrottle patch that basically made your Pre go faster than the horrendous 64kilobytes a sec. So does anyone know if the 4G is being throttled? My pre would get almost 2mbps using speedtest while my evo gets .3mbps. Now while using Pdanet I get .85mbps at the most. I haven't downloaded anything but my Pre at the fastest was downloading files at almost 300kilobytes a second. Thanks for any help

My best 3g test on my EVO was 1.8mb down and 566kb up.

You honestly can't really get a "consistant" speed out of 3g. 3g works in bursts, and when you wifi tether or tether in general you lose speed, for the most accurate speeds run a speed test on the phone via the market apps. Also the more people on a 3g network the crappier it is, CDMA also has slower 3g speeds since voice and data are on the same band. 4g is being throttled to 6mbps at the moment because sprint doesn't want to overload the network until its fully tested under heavy end user use. (maybe AT&T shoulda done this becasue their 3g network is crashing and burning horribly).

Thanks. I never thought of looking in the market for speedtest apps.

best here in NJ was 2.2 down about 800 up

I've never seen my EVO pass 1.2 - my Touch Pro 2 consistently hits 2+

Well the fastest I've seen was 310kb/s down 109kb/s up after using the app. I prefer using kb/s since thats what it shows when I download stuff. I guess this is faster than my Pre and definitely faster than my crappy dsl

ilovemytilt1 said:
Well the fastest I've seen was 310kb/s down 109kb/s up after using the app. I prefer using kb/s since thats what it shows when I download stuff. I guess this is faster than my Pre and definitely faster than my crappy dsl
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Faster than your DSL? wow your DSL should at least be equal. Probably at the end of the distance to the Telco or closest Router or VRack. Should have your DSL Co check your line.

eck0728 said:
You honestly can't really get a "consistant" speed out of 3g. 3g works in bursts, and when you wifi tether or tether in general you lose speed, for the most accurate speeds run a speed test on the phone via the market apps. Also the more people on a 3g network the crappier it is, CDMA also has slower 3g speeds since voice and data are on the same band. 4g is being throttled to 6mbps at the moment because sprint doesn't want to overload the network until its fully tested under heavy end user use. (maybe AT&T shoulda done this becasue their 3g network is crashing and burning horribly).
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Where do you have the source for 4G being throttled to 6? I heard 10/1.

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Faster than your DSL? wow your DSL should at least be equal. Probably at the end of the distance to the Telco or closest Router or VRack. Should have your DSL Co check your line.
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Its what Verizon offers in my area. I get 890 or something kbps down its either that or 1.6mbps which with a little more money I could get more with comcast. We need more internet competition or for companies to step up their game because comcast is fast but throttling and the whole area getting a set pool of bandwidth vs slow but always the same speeds sucks

EtherealRemnant said:
Where do you have the source for 4G being throttled to 6? I heard 10/1.
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I've heard the same thing around the time the Evo was announced and Wimax started to expand

[Q] Virgin Mobile Speed tests

Can someone give me some of thier speed test results for the virgin Mobile network. I currently get 2 mb/s download and 1.6 upload with tmobile, But I will be ditching my tmobile plan and selling my Vibrant. Tmo has me pissed off.
I will be buying the intercept and i will also be tehtering with it. Does the Mobile AP work on the froyo update for this phone?

lol 65 views and no one can answer?

My father uses samsung intercept with virgin mobile. You can take a long piss in the bathroom before google.com loads on that phone. The phone is allright but their network is just horrible. Im looking at below .5 download slash upload speeds
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Virgin Mobile UK if that's who you mean are a Virtual Network using TMobiles network .
jje

Obviously depends on location, but here are some I took while at home and out and about around central Florida:
No linking allowed yet, pretty stupid.. Here:
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LostSoulFly said:
Obviously depends on location, but here are some I took while at home and out and about around central Florida:
No linking allowed yet, pretty stupid.. Here:
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hxxp://dl.dropbox.com/u/4275989/misc/pics/device2.png
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I live in Winter Garden FL and get about 600k down and 120 up.

Well depending on the location and time of the day, i get download speeds between 250kbps to 1100 kbps and uploads between 150 to 450kbps.
Way better than t-mobiles piss ass speeds of 20kbps inside the house and work. If you need 3g speeds u need to go stand outside the building..
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the thing to remember when asking about dl and ul speeds on the intercept is also it was cheated in many departments one of those being radio. it's a EVDO rev. 0 not the newer, faster EVDO rev. A radio. This also limits the speeds you'll get compared to your vibrant. As always your mileage will vary based on signal strength as well

Roughly Los Angeles area here (San Fernando Valley to be more precise) and I get anywhere from 600-1400 down and about a consistent 120 up.

here close to dallas on my virgin mobile.. im getting 1.2 d and 400 up

orateam said:
I live in Winter Garden FL and get about 600k down and 120 up.
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Keep in mind my screenshots are for KB/s and not kbps.

Share your 3G Speed Tests

Well I just got my "Airave" (totally free, no monthly fee), b/c I had poor signals at home & "was" getting D/L speeds around 50-200kbps with U/L speeds around 30-120kbps, but now with the "Airave", I'm blazing fast, & can probably go faster with some tweaking, but anyways, here are my new speeds results from the app "Speed Test".
SO LETS SEE THOSE HTC HERO CDMA 3G SPEEDS!
oh, & I have full bars all the time now, w/ signal around -34dbm!

nobody, just want to see comparison HERO 3G speeds with the "speed test" app from market

That is really fast!!! I've never gotten over ~100 kB/s, or ~800 kb/s, even in downtown Chicago...

My service straight sucks on base. I've been prl'in between Verizon and Sprint to get acceptable download speeds. So half month V, half month S.

holy cow dude. lol. Yeah i've never gotten what i would expect 3G speeds to be. I'm usually around 60d/25u.
What kind of tweaks are you guys running, if any?

no tweaks prl 01337 and an older varzion radio.

kevphan08 said:
holy cow dude. lol. Yeah i've never gotten what i would expect 3G speeds to be. I'm usually around 60d/25u.
What kind of tweaks are you guys running, if any?
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None. Just the latest prl. But here's what I'm gonna do. Reading what you wrote, I'm gonna see if I can get one of those devices you mentioned.
I'm gonna try at dinner chow. Wish me luck!!

I'm in a known bad area for sprint near an airport, so not that many towers to speak of. Just ran 351kbps download and 56kbps upload. Pretty sad. Running the newest prl and just ran a ruu last week to get the newest pri but it didn't seem to help much.

How exactly do the Airaves work? Do they connect to your home's high-speed internet connection?

c00ller said:
How exactly do the Airaves work? Do they connect to your home's high-speed internet connection?
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Yes. IIRC they connect between your modem and router so they can prioritize cellular traffic.

c00ller said:
How exactly do the Airaves work? Do they connect to your home's high-speed internet connection?
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Here is the sprint webpage all about it. http://www.sprintenterprise.com/airave/tellMeMore.html

Just got off the phone with sprint. They're sending one my way. Hooah!!!!!

here's mine:
ignore the red and blue boxed ones...those where from when I tried out kifno's tweak
The ones from April 21-28 are wireless speeds ~30 min north of Chicago
May 2 is just south of the heart of NYC - Carroll Gardens
If you want OP i can take another test in Pheonix next week
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i officially hate u lol 256kb/s.. im lucky to get 140 lmao

no tweaks really, im running an old outdated knifo script, that imo & from testing works better than his new ones, but yes call sprint, & complain about poor signal (dont mention 3g), dropped calls or static in calls, you have to go outside to get a decent signal, & even then you still get dropped calls, & request an airave for free (mention that you have a friend that got one for free b/c "they" were having the same issues) & 90% of the time Sprint will send you one for free & may even wave the $5 monthly fee, just complain that youve been paying for a service that you are not getting @ 100%.
yes it connects to your internet, but it doesnt effect it at all, im still getting 20Mbps dl, & ~3Mbps ul on my internet.
they are just offering "fiber optic" internet now where im at, w/ speeds between 10Gbps-80Gbps, yes gigabites, now thats fast

Verizon's 4G LTE makes me cry.

So, my cousins, who have Verizon came over to my house today. I asked if I could look at the Droid Charge, they said sure. Upon turning on the phone, I instantly notice the 4G LTE icon next to the signal bars, on top of it being 4-5 bars out of 6. So I had to do a speedtest to compare with Sprint's 4G (at my house, mind you). Verizon's 4G LTE hit 20,000 Kbps DL, and 3,000 kbps UL. Whereas Sprint hit 1,100 kbps DL, 300 kbps UL. I decided to really test this monster called 4G and hit up my home WiFi via Comcast. My Comcast high speed internet home service hit 13,000 kbps DL, and 6,000 kbps UL. This just made me sad that Verizon's LTE had that much potential. Sprint's 3G speeds score 2,650(ish) at my house for DL, but it's nothing compared to LTE. Will Sprint's LTE be better than WiMax to this extent, or is it just the location of the towers?
I'm happy with Sprint's unlimited service, so switching carriers isn't even an option in my mind, but I am curious as to what Sprint's 4G plans are later on.
I did laugh though, that the overpriced Droid Charge is on FroYo still. lol typical Samsung.

I always wonder why people need 20 megabits on their phone...maybe for hot spot but other than that it is overkill. 2gb cap comes real fast at 20 megabits too.

digiblur said:
I always wonder why people need 20 megabits on their phone...maybe for hot spot but other than that it is overkill. 2gb cap comes real fast at 20 megabits too.
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Yep, which is exactly why I'm not on Verizon right now. lol! Verizon's 3G speeds are half Sprint's 3G speeds at my house. I just like the fact that the phone can handle downloading ROMs within seconds if necessary.

at least my data aint throttled .... yet.

The 2 gig cap is the problem. DL a movie and a few roms and the LTE is costing ya top $$$$$.
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yeah, I've already used up 2GB (from Netflix mostly) LOL while Comcast did maintenance one night.

Not to mention how much more Verizon plans are just to start with. You save almost enough for a broadband card for a laptop.
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Overstew said:
So, my cousins, who have Verizon came over to my house today. I asked if I could look at the Droid Charge, they said sure. Upon turning on the phone, I instantly notice the 4G LTE icon next to the signal bars, on top of it being 4-5 bars out of 6. So I had to do a speedtest to compare with Sprint's 4G (at my house, mind you). Verizon's 4G LTE hit 20,000 Kbps DL, and 3,000 kbps UL. Whereas Sprint hit 1,100 kbps DL, 300 kbps UL. I decided to really test this monster called 4G and hit up my home WiFi via Comcast. My Comcast high speed internet home service hit 13,000 kbps DL, and 6,000 kbps UL. This just made me sad that Verizon's LTE had that much potential. Sprint's 3G speeds score 2,650(ish) at my house for DL, but it's nothing compared to LTE. Will Sprint's LTE be better than WiMax to this extent, or is it just the location of the towers?
I'm happy with Sprint's unlimited service, so switching carriers isn't even an option in my mind, but I am curious as to what Sprint's 4G plans are later on.
I did laugh though, that the overpriced Droid Charge is on FroYo still. lol typical Samsung.
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You're tellin me! I barely get 200k of anything! Sprint LTE will be the best thing since sliced bread when it comes to my area!
I too live in a verizon LTE area with record breaking speeds.
FML
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Me and my buddy who is on verizon with a charge also have done the compairsons showing verizon Is much faster. However verizons lte is very new, compared to "sprint" 4g which has sprint, comcast, and clear users on the network. When clear 4g hit seattle, I was early on the bandwagon and it wasn't uncommon for me to hit 14000 kbs down now I see maybe 7000kbs down on the regular. Also sprint teathering is the only way to get 4g without any throttling after heavy usage. Were as clear and comcast throttle after about 20gb usage a week roughly. So we will see as verizon loads its network what lte truely has to offer.
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My wife has a Charge. I've watched the sickness that is their LTE. It also makes me glad I'm not sharing a bill. I think Sprint scares everyone else because they most resemble the mentality of Thomas Edison, “I shall make electricity so cheap that only the rich can afford to burn candles.”

The biggest impediment is money right now. Sprint and Clearwire need billions of dollars. Recent debt ceiling debacle has made corporate financing even harder and more expensive. Meanwhile, Lightsquared has to win over its regulatory issues concerning GPS.
The clock is ticking. Subscribers are fleeing. Ultimately, Sprint needs the iPhone ASAP.

My work is switching from sprint to verizon. I don't know why. But they are offering the lg revolution, the droid x, driod 2 incredible and of course the iphone 4. I told one guy good luck with that. I wouldn't mind trying the lg phone but still kinda lame they have to use a signal booster. So now my signal will be roaming
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Jayavarman said:
The biggest impediment is money right now. Sprint and Clearwire need billions of dollars. Recent debt ceiling debacle has made corporate financing even harder and more expensive. Meanwhile, Lightsquared has to win over its regulatory issues concerning GPS.
The clock is ticking. Subscribers are fleeing. Ultimately, Sprint needs the iPhone ASAP.
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How much you want to bet Big Red and the Death Star have their grubby hands in the regulators pockets?

lol death star

The Root said:
My wife has a Charge. I've watched the sickness that is their LTE. It also makes me glad I'm not sharing a bill. I think Sprint scares everyone else because they most resemble the mentality of Thomas Edison, “I shall make electricity so cheap that only the rich can afford to burn candles.”
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excellent analogy. I dont know what 4g is like, its nowhere near my area at all. I use wifi on my home network, and that is 23,000kbps so its almost 4g haha.

sohardivetried said:
excellent analogy. I dont know what 4g is like, its nowhere near my area at all. I use wifi on my home network, and that is 23,000kbps so its almost 4g haha.
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It very convenient when you're on the go, but when you're home WiFi is pretty much better to use than 4G because it doesn't strain the battery that much. The good thing about 4G is if Comcast is doing maintenance at your house like they did mine one night, you'll be without internet for a few hours and 4G as a temporary connection.

I generally get 6 Mbps download and 1 Mbps up. Plenty quick for a phone in my opinion. For some reason at my work though, WiMax consistently tests out between 9 and 11 Mbps. Makes me think that I am either close to a tower or there aren't many 4G users out there. Either way, I can download data faster than the average person can to their home PC. No complaints here.

Damn I wish I had 20000 kbps on my phone. I have no 4g here and Verizon is roaming In my area. Luckily I use my wifi all the time and get like 18 megs down.
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