I can barely play any codecs on my tmobile tab. Is it suppose to play Divx or xvid out the box? or do different carriers' tabs have different video codecs?
Also is there a stock video player app installed or can you only play out of the Gallery app?
I've already tried rockplayer and vplayer, both have video and audio lag for divx 720i videos.
ANd if other carriers tabs have more codecs can i install thme in my tmo tab?
The Tab plays more video out of the box than any other Android (or Apple) device I've ever used, and I've used most.
Now if you're trying to play videos you've (ahem) gathered from around the net, you will certainly find some that won't play properly. "Found" videos can have a truly phenomenal combination of audio codecs, video codecs, and bitrates, any of which might prevent proper playback.
While you cannot directly add codecs to Android (as yet), there are third party video players that will handle just about anything.
Rockplayer is one of these third party players. While it will play nearly anything thrown at it, it's not hardware accelerated (doesn't use the GPU) so it is largely limited to lower bitrate, standard definition videos.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/rockplayer-universal/com.redirectin.rockplayer.android.unified
if you actually read all that I posted you will see that i have tried RockPlayer.
And trust me I know enough about video codec, bitrates, and depths (Visual Effects/Graphics Artist) to tell you that I'm trying basic Divx and Xvid codec at a decent to low Bitrate and they are not working on Stock Video player and will not run smooth enough on rockplayer do to lack of graphic acceleration.
ALso, No the Samsung tab is not the Leader of COdec in the ANdroid Tablet market. The ARchos tablets (70,101 etc) lead in stock codecs by far (I own both a samsung tab and a 101).
Thanks... I guess
The only codec that is accelerated is h.264 in any container. So, mp4 and mkv work fine even at 1080p resolution.
If you encode your movies in h.264 and set Rockplayer to use hardware decoding mode down low in the settings, you'll have no problem viewing it.
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ALso, No the Samsung tab is not the Leader of COdec in the ANdroid Tablet market. The ARchos tablets (70,101 etc) lead in stock codecs by far (I own both a samsung tab and a 101).
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It's true that the Archos can play a lot of video formats, but I don't put it in the same category as other top Android devices because it's so lacking in other areas.
Sorry I just perused your previous post, but I've truly had very few problems in playing video on the Tab, even with "found" videos.
In fully reading your post, my question to you would be, Why Divx? If you're encoding video specifically for use on the Tab, why not encode to h264?
I have the Sprint SGT, and I have zero problems with 720 mkv and avi files, regardless of who encoded them. The stock player renders them as smooth as silk. It also has a 5.1 mobile mode for AC3 audio tracks. And the control lock means I can wipe fingerprints off the screen off with my shirt without disturbing playback. My only complaint with the player is the lack of a skip button.
I have read other complaints from other SGT users about poor or stuttery playback, and I'm quite baffled. The only file that would play were 720p mov files. Other than that, I've had zero problems.
Rockplayer was awesome on the Evo, but its useless for me on the SGT. Its now useless for me on the Evo, but thats because I don't even bother watching videos on the Evo anymore.
Wait... I did encounter one problem. I downloaded the newest version of mkvmerge to split mkv files into <2GB parts, and those files will not play on the SGT. But I mostly watch TV and those files top out at 1.5 GB. But xvid avi is no problem. Dunno about divx for sure, I never really use it.
well i have problems with sound playing 1080p BRRip H264 AAC-.mp4 files i get no sound,does anyone know why?
Is this your own rip or did you... uh... find it laying around?
Thank you all for the replies.
Im using Divx and Xvid because those are the native file formats I'm downloading from a sever/email at work on to my SGT on the go. If I could I would convert to mp4 or h264. Is there a android video converter app that can do did?
Yes I heard that the Sprint SGT can play Divx and some MKV out the box (my friend has one), why is that? Different native video player? If so can I get it extracted for my Tmobile Tab?
ALso I never said Archos are on the top on android Tablet List, I was pointing out that they have Much more codecs out the box "Leaders in Codecs out-the-box"
Lastly Rockplayer is studding on me, giving me about 20-25fps when my video files are 30fps. Also audio sometimes lags on Divx and mkv files.
What is the latest version Rockplayer app out there or is there a better video app for SGT??
Have you tried VPlayer??? I prefer it over Rockplayer
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Yes I heard that the Sprint SGT can play Divx and some MKV out the box (my friend has one), why is that? Different native video player? If so can I get it extracted for my Tmobile Tab?
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Very interesting. I do have the Sprint Tab, perhaps that's why it plays almost everything I throw at it.
I'd never considered that different versions of the Tab would have such a major difference in codec support. I'd figured Samsung was responsible for paying the licensing fees for the various included codecs. Looking at the reality of these significant codec differences, it makes me wonder if the codec licensing fees aren't instead forced on the carriers themselves. That's the only reason I can fathom to explain the codec differences.
The Sprint ROM's are online here. My guess is that you could certainly pull the necessary files out of the Sprint rom and run them on your device. That said, I've absolutely no idea how the codecs are packaged and which files and libraries you'd need.
my tmo tab being a gsm device might not play nice with a sprint rom. And I have no idea how to take apart a rom or how to add codec to mine tab.
Anyone have any other options?
Also I have tried v player and same result as rock player
So far my tab has played all my video files with out a problem, (mostly .mkv animes) i have to use mkv sub extactor (from the market) to get subtitles to work. Rockplayer would go out of sync after 5mins of 720p .mkv
RockPlayer can play h.264 720p MKV videos using hardware acceleration as long as they don't have DTS audio (as many do when they are real BluRay rips). If you play TV rips they generally work since they are not using DTS. Dolby audio might work in HW mode as well, I am not sure.
You can play DTS audio though, but only in software mode . But the processor in the SGT cannot keep up with both DTS and h.264 in 720p. I think it might manage 480p with DTS though.
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my tmo tab being a gsm device might not play nice with a sprint rom. And I have no idea how to take apart a rom or how to add codec to mine tab.
Anyone have any other options?
Also I have tried v player and same result as rock player
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From what I've read, most incompatibilities between GSM and CDMA versions of the Tab have to do with communications related apps, limitations that should have no impact on the video app.
I would think it's extremely likely that the Sprint video app and/or codecs would run flawlessly on other versions of the Tab. Ripping apps from ROM's and deodexing them is not my forte, but there are many in the developer forums who are very experienced in that sort of thing.
I use mVideoPlayer. It plays everything I throw at it.
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well i have problems with sound playing 1080p BRRip H264 AAC-.mp4 files i get no sound,does anyone know why?
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Probably because it's a 1080p H264 file and you're trying to play it on a device with a 1Ghz processor, and no hardware acceleration for video playback. It can't cope.
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From what I've read, most incompatibilities between GSM and CDMA versions of the Tab have to do with communications related apps, limitations that should have no impact on the video app.
I would think it's extremely likely that the Sprint video app and/or codecs would run flawlessly on other versions of the Tab. Ripping apps from ROM's and deodexing them is not my forte, but there are many in the developer forums who are very experienced in that sort of thing.
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I use mVideoPlayer. It plays everything I throw at it.
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If you read the app detail for mVideoPlayer, it only play videos/codecs your phone/tablet can already play. It doesn't add anything or help at all. It's just a skin that takes up app space.
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Is this your own rip or did you... uh... find it laying around?
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downloaded from the net.
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We all know Divx/Xvid is capable with the TouchWiz, but is it the TouchWiz that allows playback or is there an underlying app that will allow Divx/Xvid to play?
Most of us are considering rooting and either loading the International Rom if its better or running some kind of stock rom to rid TouchWiz unless of course its not as laggy as reports have said.
I'm really digging on the idea of being able to play Divx/Xvid.
The T-Mobile Vibrant plays all the same videos the international versions do, no change to the video player at all. I've been watching 720p MKVs and various divx/xvid files on mine without issue!
I think the OP is asking if it plays those files without touchwiz being present or active?
yes you can disable the touchwiz and still have video playback in all formats...
Yeah thats what I was interested in. If we mod would it change the ability to play movies.
Have any if you try the divx video yet? It won't play on my vibrant for some reason. I was able to play 720p mkv,mp4 but not divx.
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I didn't even know it had mkv/divx/xvid playback, this makes me happy lol..
I hope it does. All mose all my Vids are Xvids and Divx files. Just ordered mine so I couldnt' even tell.
do you just play the 4gig mkv or do you compress it somehow? I want to put some more videos on but dont know what size to compress them to/what program is best for my vibrant's resolution.
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do you just play the 4gig mkv or do you compress it somehow? I want to put some more videos on but dont know what size to compress them to/what program is best for my vibrant's resolution.
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There isn't a file size limit persay, but it seems the Vibrant will reject any videos with resolutions higher than 1280x720. E.M. Total Video Converter HD seems to be best so far in terms of quality and conversion success rates, but if you're looking for freeware, Handbrake works very well. Set the profile to iPhone, and make sure the video resolution is 800x480 or less.
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We all know Divx/Xvid is capable with the TouchWiz, but is it the TouchWiz that allows playback or is there an underlying app that will allow Divx/Xvid to play?
Most of us are considering rooting and either loading the International Rom if its better or running some kind of stock rom to rid TouchWiz unless of course its not as laggy as reports have said.
I'm really digging on the idea of being able to play Divx/Xvid.
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The international rom should be able to play the xvid/mkv video but if you flash on some other Rom (e.g. AOSP Froyo, etc) then it will lose the ability to play them unless someone figure out how to port the ability into the other Rom.
My vibrant wont divx, but play 720mkv perfectly. Yxplayer play divx but very choppy.
Didn't engadget somehow play a 1080p video on the Galaxy S when they compared it with the iphone? or do you mean the divx can;t be more then 720p?
And as for the rom thing...The video should be hardware decoded..so as long as the drivers are portable it would be possible on any galaxy s regardless the rom..or at least that is my guess...
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Didn't engadget somehow play a 1080p video on the Galaxy S when they compared it with the iphone? or do you mean the divx can;t be more then 720p?
And as for the rom thing...The video should be hardware decoded..so as long as the drivers are portable it would be possible on any galaxy s regardless the rom..or at least that is my guess...
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Why the hell would they put specific hardware decoders in the phone for divx support? I would assume they just included the codec support with the stock rom. I seriously doubt that you can throw any rom in there and immediately playback divx video.
I'm not sure what you mean by asking if engadget played a 1080p movie on the galaxy S. Do you mean that they used a 1080p video and the phone auto-scaled it down to 800x480?
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Why the hell would they put specific hardware decoders in the phone for divx support? I would assume they just included the codec support with the stock rom. I seriously doubt that you can throw any rom in there and immediately playback divx video.
I'm not sure what you mean by asking if engadget played a 1080p movie on the galaxy S. Do you mean that they used a 1080p video and the phone auto-scaled it down to 800x480?
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I remember reading it has the video decoder built into the Hummingbird GPU..but I don't remember where...let me see if I can find the source.
Edit: never mind the 1080p..I went searching for that article and they modified it since I read it to say they did it via youtube 1080p setting on the app >.>..but they dont even know if it was 1080p or 720p either..sigh
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I remember reading it has the video decoder built into the Hummingbird GPU..but I don't remember where...let me see if I can find the source.
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I went searching and found a review that states "Dedicated Graphics Hardware With Divx decoding" as a pro for getting the phone. I think they combined two things here (the Power VR gpu and the software support for divx). I see how it could be read to imply that the divx support is hardware based, but an earlier part of the article indicates that the divx codec support is built into the video player software.
Here's the article: http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000-review
This is really a situation for Occam's razor. Would they go to all the expense of adding hardware divx support to the cpu design or would they just use already existing software solutions that cost almost nothing to implement? The press release from last year revealing the hummingbird doesn't have any mention of it. http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1030
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I went searching and found a review that states "Dedicated Graphics Hardware With Divx decoding" as a pro for getting the phone. I think they combined two things here (the Power VR gpu and the software support for divx). I see how it could be read to imply that the divx support is hardware based, but an earlier part of the article indicates that the divx codec support is built into the video player software.
Here's the article: http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000-review
This is really a situation for Occam's razor. Would they go to all the expense of adding hardware divx support to the cpu design or would they just use already existing software solutions that cost almost nothing to implement? The press release from last year revealing the hummingbird doesn't have any mention of it. http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1030
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Here you go I found it:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-1ghz-hummingbird-mobile-cpu-takes-on-snapdragon-2750348/
They do mention it..the ARM® NEON™ multi-media extension is it
Edit: Hardware video decoding is good because it saves battery life and more efficient over software decode...I'm researching the ARM NEON now..on their site it says it can decode ANY video but is not specific on all formats..only lists MPEG-4, H.264, On2 VP6/7/8, Real, AVS..... but the ... means there are more they are not stating
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Here you go I found it:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-1ghz-hummingbird-mobile-cpu-takes-on-snapdragon-2750348/
They do mention it..the ARM® NEON™ multi-media extension is it
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All I see is it says NEON does "video decoding" and I can't find a single mention of divx in the article or in the NEON link they provide. Every video card or gpu I have owned has had some hardware to decode and encode video but none have natively supported divx.
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All I see is it says NEON does "video decoding" and I can't find a single mention of divx in the article or in the NEON link they provide. Every video card or gpu I have owned has had some hardware to decode and encode video but none have natively supported divx.
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The article was to show that it does have hardware decode in general...
I can't say for sure about divx/xvid..I don't even have the phone yet to test if it is the case or not...their site does state ANY format
NEON enhances many multimedia user experiences:
Watch any video in any format
Edit and enhance captured videos - video stabilization
Anti-aliased rendering and compositing
Game processing
Process multi-megapixel photos quickly
Voice recognition
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That said Divx Decode was part of the ATI hardware decoder..at least in the 4XXX series
As for samsung''s reason to do this...we have to remember that the Hummingbird was meant to be scalable so they can use it for tablets..thus having it natively support the large array of formats is key.
Just got the Vibrant and noticed that it would not play some AVI files (simple TV show low res). had to DL rock player to play those files.Also had an mp4 play in stock video player but would not play the sound and in Rock player tried to play the sound but was garbled.
So not sure what the full support is and wondering if we just need to get a nice media player.
Can someone check and post what formats the A500 can actually playback? Things like DiVX, XViD, OGM & MKV containers, etc etc...
Cheers!
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Can someone check and post what formats the A500 can actually playback? Things like DiVX, XViD, OGM & MKV containers, etc etc...
Cheers!
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i have to convert everything into mp4...
Plenty apps can play divx/xvid witout problems atleast. The higher profile HD videos are the issue so far.
I'm talking without conversion or third party apps. Their recent model phones, such as the Metal and the Stream can play DiVX/XViD's & MKV's natively, so I was wondering of the same was true of the Tab.
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I'm talking without conversion or third party apps. Their recent model phones, such as the Metal and the Stream can play DiVX/XViD's & MKV's natively, so I was wondering of the same was true of the Tab.
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No it isn't.
Regards,
Dave
Best I can tell from testing so far, without adding things like Moboplayer, the Iconia only plays .3gp and .mp4 files, using h.263 or h.264 (Baseline Profile only) codec, MPEG-4 (Simple Profile) in .3gp files, and (of course?) WebM (VP8) files.
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
I've been able to convert one of my HD files to AVI/DivX but the video is somewhat choppy when played through Moboplayer, I'm going to see if I can get AVI/DivX right from the source to see if that's smoother, or if I'm going to have to downgrade the bitrate further.
Well that's rather annoying... I wonder why they decided not to implement the same framework codecs as they did on their recent model phones...
If I had to guess (and I do ) I'd guess it's because the source for Froyo/Gingerbread is out but Honeycomb hasn't been released yet
Acer are an OEM. The likes of you and me don't have the source, but OEM's DO.
I'm currently working on a libx264 ffmpeg preset that works for the Iconia. Since I know very little about h.264 video encoding it could take me some time but if I succeed I'll post a guide.
It could be that by the time I'm done there's already been a software update anyway!
Of course, if anyone else with some experience on these things cares to lend a hand then feel free. All the test converts I've done so far have come out really choppy with baseline presets.
I can stream .avi files from over my NAS via PlayOn.
Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I really love my Tab for web-browsing and gaming, but you have to admit it sucks at video playing. MP4 and 3GP are crappy formats that are hardly used in RL und converting your whole video and movie collection isn't a real option.
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
In theory, the Tegra 2 has more than enough power to play 1080p files, right?
I already tried like 6 different media players but all of them weren't able to play 720p mkvs nice and even non-HD-avi-files felt a little slowed-down.
So can we hope for a hardware-accelerated media player that enables alle the joy of moving pictures for us? Will possibly acer itself help us out on this issue? What are Samsung and Motorola doing on their Gingerbread tablets to enable nice media playing?
Hoping for a better tomorrow
Cheers
pint
pintness said:
Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
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you sure about that?? my 101 throws a fit with 1080p mkv videos and both use the the firmware.
but i agree, i would love better video support on the iconia, since it runs circles around my archos when it comes to everything else.
pintness said:
Hi Iconia-Lovers,
I really love my Tab for web-browsing and gaming, but you have to admit it sucks at video playing. MP4 and 3GP are crappy formats that are hardly used in RL und converting your whole video and movie collection isn't a real option.
I had have an Archos A70 which plays even 1080p MKV flawless with a single core 1GHZ CPU, but relies on an additional decoding chip if i get this right.
In theory, the Tegra 2 has more than enough power to play 1080p files, right?
I already tried like 6 different media players but all of them weren't able to play 720p mkvs nice and even non-HD-avi-files felt a little slowed-down.
So can we hope for a hardware-accelerated media player that enables alle the joy of moving pictures for us? Will possibly acer itself help us out on this issue? What are Samsung and Motorola doing on their Gingerbread tablets to enable nice media playing?
Hoping for a better tomorrow
Cheers
pint
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Tried VPlayer? it costs like $4/ £2.30 but it can play practically all standards, not sure how it fares for 1080p tho.
I had it playing .avi and .mkv fine though.
Vplayer--
Video formats: divx/xvid, wmv, m4v, flv, rmvb, avi, mkv, mov, mp4, 3gp, ts, tp...
Streaming: http, rtsp, mms and m3u(apple http stream, m3u8)
I use UPnPlay (network streaming) along with MoboPlayer and it has played everything i have on my NAS very well.
Also I know Rockplayer gives you the option of hardware/software decoding so you may want to give that a try if you haven't already. There is a free version.
Both moboplayer and rock player are useless for my 720p and 1080p videos... total stutterfest, but that's a known thing for tegra devices on 3.0...
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Both moboplayer and rock player are useless for my 720p and 1080p videos... total stutterfest, but that's a known thing for tegra devices on 3.0...
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Hmmm... I use moboplayer, and every 720 did I've tried has been great! I haven't tried any 1080p vids though.
tested 1080 quality....the videos lag and the audio missing....
hope acer will figure it out....
Avatar & 10,000 B.C. in 1080P using UPnPlay & MoboPlayer streamed from my WD NAS, looks great. No lagging at all.
not another one of these threads..
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not another one of these threads..
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Guess what? It pushes down other, more quality threads.
Guess what? There's already something like 6 or 7 threads EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE already.
Guess what? People need to learn to use the search function.
Guess what? Guess what? Guess what?
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Guess what? It pushes down other, more quality threads.
Guess what? There's already something like 6 or 7 threads EXACTLY LIKE THIS ONE already.
Guess what? People need to learn to use the search function.
Guess what? Guess what? Guess what?
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Guess what? You've just caused this thread to get bumped several times.
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I have been trying all the suggested encoders to get smooth playback for film material as 60/50hz works fine. I maybe more sensative to it than others as I tent to look for it on moving objects. But I got it to replace a media player too.
I tried the script posted in another thread with good results but the jump is still there.
Bought DVD Catalist 4 with same results.
Freemake with custom profile same again.
Handbreak I find too slow but I read it works but can't verify it.
Any Video Converter Pro with xoom profile WORKS - it has very little judder but having to strip the subtitles out of the MKV every time is a real pain ( Anyone know how to disable them ) and it's too expensive anyway.
Trying to edit DVD Catalist 4 profile now but no success yet
Oh and I tried Vplayer , Rockplayer , Moboplayer and any others I could find
Hope my two weeks at this helps somone else out.
@RaveOn911
With any problem, you need to find its parameters. Only a handful of people notice the "micro-stutter" deal, so it's either a user sensitivity issue, or a tablet-centric issue (which could be hardware or software, user-caused or device defect).
Ask somebody to watch a video clip on your tablet, and ask them if they see anything wrong with playback. Don't tell him beforehand about "micro-stutter", as you don't want to bias his observation.
If he notices the stutter, it's your tablet. If he doesn't, it's you.
If the first, then bring a video clip on a uSD card into a store and try it on other tablets (hopefully with same or similar make as yours). If it doesn't happen on other tabs, then replace your tab. If it happens on every other tab, then again it's you.
If you have heightened sensitivity, then there may be params that can alleviate the issue. The default interleave for MP4Box is 0.5s. You can reduce this interleave, eg
MP4Box -inter 250 -add infile.mp4 -new outfile.mp4
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MP4Box -tight -add infile.mp4 -new outfile.mp4
MP4Box works on MP4 only. Given that MKVs can only play in software mode currently on Teg2 tabs, it's a fool's errand to play MKV and claim that they don't play smoothly. Avail of the native support.
Mobo Player plays my mkv and xvid/divx AVI's just fine. I'm no codec/encoding expert, but from what I've read it's worth re-encoding some of the files to a more manageable bitrate for both audio and video and maybe dump the 5.1 or AC3 audio. I haven't looked at every file I've played, but a couple that would choke on my Win7 Asus netbook, I re-encoded with Handbrake. They still look and sound great.
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Given that MKVs can only play in software mode currently
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I understood that that's the whole point the OP was trying to make: he wishes that someone makes a video player application that can handle MKVs via the hardware decoder. It's not a bad thing to wish for, either; it would provide better performance and hardware playback uses less battery, too.
The question remains: is it possible? As far as I know, the chip itself doesn't get relayed anything more than the actual video stream inside the file, regardless of the container, and thus an app should be able to do exactly that. But since I don't know anything about Android internals are applications given any such access?
My N900 phone uses regular GStreamer stack and thus you can demux anything you want and supply the video stream to the hardware decoder. As long as it's H.264 normal profile and not too high a resolution it'll play, regardless of the originating container.
There's nothing wrong with wishing, but until it happens, we have to use what we've got. For HC, for now that means MP4 for native support.
3.1 thus far has been worse than 2.x insofar as multimedia, probably because vendors have had 2.x for much longer, and were able to add enhanced support. A good case in point is the Samsung GalTab 7 vs the GalTab 10.1. The 7, released last year, can play MKV. The new 10.1 can't. Ditto for all the "my old phone can play MKV, why can't my tablet" complaints. It is what it is.
From all indications, HC was and is a rush job. It had to be pushed out the door because of competition from the iPad. I think the prospective buyer should understand that s/he is buying into a beta, and temper his expectations accordingly. Android has high potential, but now isn't then.
I've written a script that does fast remux/convert to MP4. A straight remux takes a few minutes, and it can process batch. It's a more productive route than wishing for a HW-accel player to come along.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922
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It's a more productive route than wishing for a HW-accel player to come along.
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I suppose that's a matter of viewpoint.
I took a look at the MediaPlayer class in Google's APIs and it seems to me that it should be fairly straightforward to demux the MKV file in software on-the-fly, create named pipe with mkfifo and feed the MediaPlayer class the raw video stream via that. Just throw a simple GUI on top of that and you have a rudimentary video player capable of playing MKV files with hardware accelerated video.
I'll try it out once I receive my tablet, was planning to learn Android programming anyways.
PS. Bah, doesn't allow me to post links yet :/
I watch a lot of anime and that would be the primary function of this tablet for me. I was wondering if this tablet could handle the 720p/1080p mkv files encoded in h624. and also if they support subtitles.
here is a test file for current 10.1 owners.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9ZQAFZIZ
I got lots of anime 720P MKV files. They won't play on any Tegra 2 tablet I've had, including this one.
There video player apps in the Market that will play MKV.. but they don't usually support hardware acceleration so it'll prolly be very choppy :/
There's not a tablet out in existence im aware of that can play MKV with hardware accel.. sigh.
Galaxy Tab 7" can, and I suspect the HTC Flyer could too.
Regards,
Dave
First thing I do with all my anime mkv is to convert them to mp4 with the subs burned in, with Handbrake. I prefer this because it takes the guess work out of not knowing if this device will play such and such mkv, and everything handles mp4 nowadays moreso than mkv. Even Archos devices that are the king of media codecs and formats have problems with some mkv files even, because as a container an mkv file could contain a myriad combo of codecs.
LordLugard said:
First thing I do with all my anime mkv is to convert them to mp4 with the subs burned in, with Handbrake. I prefer this because it takes the guess work out of not knowing if this device will play such and such mkv, and everything handles mp4 nowadays moreso than mkv. Even Archos devices that are the king of media codecs and formats have problems with some mkv files even, because as a container an mkv file could contain a myriad combo of codecs.
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Same here. I'm just using handbrake to convert all my movies to mp4 so there is no worry. Handbrake will let you queue up items so you can basically just let it run.
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When the TouchWiz update comes out expect this tablet to get a lot more media friendly.
Mine would appear to play mkv files no problem, although I can't control them, fast forward or jump to a certain point, which means I wouldn't want to rely on it.
(Stock player and Vplayer on 3.1)
**EDIT ** Actually, the sound is not in sync...
th0r615 said:
When the TouchWiz update comes out expect this tablet to get a lot more media friendly.
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don't bet on it. tergra 2 can't handle the throughput of most high profile hd. it can handle some but it's very picky. it also chokes on ac3 and has a hard time with aac multichannel sound. i have some multichanel files that'll play and some won't.
tegra 2 is no media powerhouse. imho the archos 101 is still the best for all the files it can play, but it's quality is lackluster... and the screen sucks.
It doesn't do it natively, but MoboPlayer is a great app (free) for it. It will handle 720p MKV no problem.
it can handle some 720p mkv. its very hard to make a general statement for files higher than main profile and 2 channel sound.
tegra is limited on media playback. check all the other tegra 2 forums. this is the reason boxee box dropped tegra 2.
don't get me wrong, I love the tablet, but there are some limitations to expect with media playback. it's not even as goog as the gt7".
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it can handle some 720p mkv. its very hard to make a general statement for files higher than main profile and 2 channel sound.
tegra is limited on media playback. check all the other tegra 2 forums. this is the reason boxee box dropped tegra 2.
don't get me wrong, I love the tablet, but there are some limitations to expect with media playback. it's not even as goog as the gt7".
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This.
Tegra 2 has awful performance in alot of areas. Video playback and portrait view basically slow it to a crawl.
xManMythLegend said:
This.
Tegra 2 has awful performance in alot of areas. Video playback and portrait view basically slow it to a crawl.
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I hardly think portrait view slowing down has to do with the hardware. More likely HC.
I use my tab for MKV's all the time. RockPlayer Lite handles it like a champ. Perfect audio and all. Scrubbing works fine too. Just select software decoding mode when playing the videos
I found a program caled XenonMKV which rips the mp4 out of the mkv container and converts the audio to aac. It's a much faster process since there is no video re-encoding involved and it works 'ok'. It still skips a bit but it at least kind of works smoothly most of the time.
EDIT: tried RockPlayer Lite Software & Hardware and it was still stuttery from time to time. (3500kbps 720p mkv and mp4 from XenonMKV)
I think if you had a Max bitrate of about 3mbps or less and it wasn't AC3 it could do it.
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It doesn't do it natively, but MoboPlayer is a great app (free) for it. It will handle 720p MKV no problem.
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Did you actually test this ?
I'm very concerned about video support in honeycomb tablets, and in galaxy tab in particular. I don't understand why, but it seems this feature has been left behind in every honeycomb tablet, whereas SGS and SGS 2 handle 720p mkv with hardware acceleration very well in stock video player. I just don't understand what the manufacturers are doing.
I can't even transfer that large of a file on my tab. It hangs and stops at the end. Weird.
Handbrake is free and works like a champ to convert any file. I'm using it on the @pple tv2 settings with some minor tweaks
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Just watched an mkv last night thanks to vplayer. No problems
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I think if you had a Max bitrate of about 3mbps or less and it wasn't AC3 it could do it.
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this. also, if the movie is quite slow (not much of on screen action, etc) i had good results at around 5mbps too and mp3 audio.
One of my favourite things about the Tab 10.1 is video format support. My #1 use for the device is watching videos during my morning/afternoon commutes. I download some videos the night before, and drop them onto the SD card in the AM. The Tab was able to play all of the formats I threw at it in 720p no problem, in the stock video player.
The first thing I noticed when I turned on my TouchWiz-updated tablet this morning is that none of the videos on it work. They show up as thumbnails in the gallery and video player, but cannot be played. In Moboplayer, the 720p files struggle because it's now relying on software decoding.
Is anyone having different experiences, or have a work around? I really hope this is not an intended change, or I'm probably going to return it. Too bad as I otherwise really like the update!
The update broke 720p high profile support. 720p baseline still works fine and the difference in image quality is negligible imo.
I hope they fix it in the near future, but as it stands now you either take the improved browser in this TW update, or go back to stock 3.1 or one of the older TW leaks and get 720p high profile support.
That sucks! I am assuming it is a bug and they will fix it.
I apologize for the upcoming noobish question as I'm not particularly familiar with codec's, and don't know the different between baseline and high profiles. I'm assuming I can convert one to the other in one step with handbrake? And would the difference in size be substantial?
duraeas said:
That sucks! I am assuming it is a bug and they will fix it.
I apologize for the upcoming noobish question as I'm not particularly familiar with codec's, and don't know the different between baseline and high profiles. I'm assuming I can convert one to the other in one step with handbrake? And would the difference in size be substantial?
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Yep use handbrake and the baseline profile attached to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
Just queue up your files and walk away. I think the files might end up slightly larger but I'm not 100% sure, either way it isn't a big difference.
I'm also assuming it's a bug as high profile playback was a feature that was added in HC 3.1
DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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Interesting... I'll grab it and try when I get home. Do you know if it is designed for the Tegra 2 and using the GPU to decode the video (I'm assuming it is otherwise it should be stuttering)?
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Interesting... I'll grab it and try when I get home. Do you know if it is designed for the Tegra 2 and using the GPU to decode the video (I'm assuming it is otherwise it should be stuttering)?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
It states it uses hw acceleration on Tegra2 devices.
all the mp4 vids i had are still playing nicely on mobo player
Can anyone comment on DivX/AVI support?
I picked up my GT10.1 today, and since it supports DivX out of the box, gave some a try. I was disappointed that the picture broke up and pixelated repeatedly on every AVI I tried. So, I installed Mobo Player and tried it in software mode, but got exactly the same results (which surprised me somewhat).
I also have an Asus Transformer, and those AVIs play flawlessly on the TF using Mobo Player in software mode (since Asus didn't add hardware support for DivX).
I'm wondering if this is related somehow to this issue, since my GT10.1 came with Touchwiz.
Regards,
Dave
720p High Profile H264 is indeed broken. Verified in Mobo Player and System Media Player.
How do I know they are high profile? I made them, and because I only encode in high profile via handbrake.
Bummer because the Tegra2 handles 720p High Profile H264 wonderfully prior to this update.
I have 4 video players loaded because the built in video player couldn't play all of the videos that I have loaded. Ironically I have the exact opposite experience of the OP, it now plays all the formats I have loaded.
TabGuy said:
I have 4 video players loaded because the built in video player couldn't play all of the videos that I have loaded. Ironically I have the exact opposite experience of the OP, it now plays all the formats I have loaded.
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Can you tell us which players you use? Do you need all of them? Does one work better (produce better quality) than the others? Thanks.
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The update broke 720p high profile support. 720p baseline still works fine and the difference in image quality is negligible imo.
I hope they fix it in the near future, but as it stands now you either take the improved browser in this TW update, or go back to stock 3.1 or one of the older TW leaks and get 720p high profile support.
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This is extremely disappointing news because one of the things I love about the SGT is the quality of its video playback. My friend has a Xoom and he was blown away when I showed him some hi-def videos I downloaded.
I have a lot of high-def videos I downloaded straight from Vimeo, and they play flawlessly on my SGT without any conversions whatsoever. The thought of having to use Handbrake -- or anything else -- to convert every video I own is not very appealing to me. I hope Samsung fixes this problem.
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Can you tell us which players you use? Do you need all of them? Does one work better (produce better quality) than the others? Thanks.
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I have mVideoPlayer, which I like the best. I also have ES Video Player which comes with the ES File Explorer. And, I also have VPlayer.
VPlayer will play anything I throw at it. I've never had it not play a video. I only downloaded it because it's required by Remote Potato. Remote Potato lets me play Recorded TV from my Windows Media Center cable card tuner.
To be honest, this is sort of souring the update for me. I'll be testing when I get home to confirm there is no problem playing back lower resolution files. Still, I like to keep a few high-def movies on my Tab and don't want to convert them all. I hope this is a very temporary problem, not something that gets fixed for the 3.2 build.
I don't know if this is related, but when I was trying out the new Kies app on my PC with my tab connected over Wifi, it (Kies on the PC) offered to download new codecs when I first tried to transfer a video over to the Tab. My PC shouldn't have needed new codecs since all the video play on my PC.
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DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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x2, just tried it out and it worked fine with my high profile 720p videos in mkv and m4v.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice
Just to add, the TW update apparently fixed ac3 audio playback.
my video players including the stock player play "high profile" m4v and mkv's perfectly
what a dumb thing to do Samsung..
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my video players including the stock player play "high profile" m4v and mkv's perfectly
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Well, the stockplayer can't play this pixar short movie. At least, it doesn't on my Tab... Dice Player plays it smoothly.
Code:
Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 47.95 (48000/1001) -> 24.00 (24/1)
Input #0, matroska, from 'for.the.birds.2000.720p.bluray.x264-sinners.mkv':
Metadata:
doctype : matroska
Duration: 00:03:25.24, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 640 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264, yuv420p, 1280x688, PAR 1:1 DAR 80:43, 23.98 fps, 24 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc
Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 640 kb/s