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lock this please....
wow I thought this might be relevant to other people's interests. If you don't like the thread don't click on it.
you're not junior mods that get threads locked at your request so gtfo.
LOl Hilarious
akijikan said:
wow I thought this might be relevant to other people's interests. If you don't like the thread don't click on it.
you're not junior mods that get threads locked at your request so gtfo.
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not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
not a topic asking a specific person a specific question :facepalm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
make your own kernel
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not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
not a topic asking a specific person a specific question :facepalm:
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facepalm yourself, there's nothing wrong with asking a specific person a question in a topic. You obviously don't care for the thread and you have nothing to add to it so stop posting in it just to thread crap.
david279 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
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Thanks, I already know how to do that though. This thread was started to ask if kkruse might share with us what he did since it might be useful to incorporate into our own kernels.
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facepalm yourself, there's nothing wrong with asking a specific person a question in a topic. You obviously don't care for the thread and you have nothing to add to it so stop posting in it just to thread crap.
Thanks, I already know how to do that though.
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You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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I'm not going to pay the time you wasted trying to bully me into doing things your way. Sorry you choose to see that as moronic.
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You're just a damn moron, so I forgive you and I'll break it down like barney... (he's a big purple stuffed dinosaur geared for 5 year olds fyi)
I see the point you would be getting at in this topic, in fact, very interested in what it *could* potentially be about... hence why I clicked on it... but found absolutely nothing of importance inside.
I want my 5 seconds of my life back please.... they add up reading crap like this. And the 5 minutes explaining that to you... I accept visa or mastercard
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Wow... The pot calling the kettle black... You are just as retarded.. You're arguing like a little *****.. Shut your mouth... Leave the guy alone. If you don't like the thread, forget it exists..
It is not yours, nor anyone else's to say anything.. A forum is made to voice any concerns whatsoever that the users feel necessary... For you to reply as aggressively as you did, doesn't make your forum rep jump up, you actually just end up making yourself look like a bigger **** than we all already think you are...
Every time I see one of your posts, I wish you would just leave the community...
Maybe its below your asshole tolerance level, but he has every right to post whatever he wants. Go troll somewhere else.
Now, back to the original topic OP.....
^ heard that..what rom is this kat running with the kernal darch's 2.1?
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not junior mods, not claiming to be... this isn't YOUR forum as much as it's not mine or anyone elses... and it is EXPECIALLY not your personal pm. If he responded then maybe you can put something of relevence here,
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It's 'ESPECIALLY'. There's no X in that word. Also 'relevance' not 'relevence'. I'm certain I'm missing one or two there, but this was just a quick glance. Since you seem to be all over propriety, I suggest learning to spell before criticizing others.
I like these forums, but GOD I'm getting sick of the self proclaimed topic police around here. The guy asked a legitimate question. There was no reason to jump all over him for it.
LUL
LUL
this is funny
I am not here to agree with johnson's approach to this thread but I have to agree that this thread should not have been created in such forum. PM's are exactly how you communicate with other members and if after PMing said Member, he received info that he felt relevant to the forum, then he should post it. Just starting a thread to ask someone something like that is just a little much.
Loud noises!!!!
I am just tired of threads like this... then people backing up the justification of it being there.... then people going after the ones that get on the ones that post stupid sh*t like this....
I've been reading xda for a very long time and it just goes on and on and on, but this particular handheld seems to attract a butt load of self richous know nothings... and not noobs.. but know nothings... the retard to technical person ratio is just totally f*cked currently, makes me want to go back to hacking winmo phones or something, at least there the idiots let you know they were idiots up front.
and I don't give a big flying f if I can spell or not.. that is the weakest type of argument ever... you obvioulsy know what I'm saying... so I don't really care if you correct me or leave it be, it makes you sound as pompous as you are suggesting I am is all.
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@azyouthinkeyeiz I can be the biggest asshole on the face of the planet if I want... I can care less if you or anyone else likes me or not, a knowledgeable person is a knowledgeable person. My job and/or goal here isn't to make friends, it's to learn and to share knowledge. I can dish out whatever info I see fit however I see fit, you don't like it... tough sh*t
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Loud noises!!!!
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I love lamp.
johnsongrantr said:
I am just tired of threads like this... then people backing up the justification of it being there.... then people going after the ones that get on the ones that post stupid sh*t like this....
I've been reading xda for a very long time and it just goes on and on and on, but this particular handheld seems to attract a butt load of self richous know nothings... and not noobs.. but know nothings... the retard to technical person ratio is just totally f*cked currently, makes me want to go back to hacking winmo phones or something, at least there the idiots let you know they were idiots up front.
and I don't give a big flying f if I can spell or not.. that is the weakest type of argument ever... you obvioulsy know what I'm saying... so I don't really care if you correct me or leave it be, it makes you sound as pompous as you are suggesting I am is all.
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@azyouthinkeyeiz I can be the biggest asshole on the face of the planet if I want... I can care less if you or anyone else likes me or not, a knowledgeable person is a knowledgeable person. My job and/or goal here isn't to make friends, it's to learn and to share knowledge. I can dish out whatever info I see fit however I see fit, you don't like it... tough sh*t
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How ironic that you tried to paint me as the 5 year old in the equation.
I'm here for the same thing, the sharing and development of knowledge surrounding this phone, and this thread as it was started (don't think the same could be said now) met that end in a direct manner.
The only one acting self-righteous though is you.
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The only one acting self-righteous though is you.
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given... but at least I know my sh*t
why is every single thread of mine locked......................
not one PM or response to a PM
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See this thread for details; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7027241&postcount=19
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arent you under investigation...
http://androidspin.com/2010/07/01/cant-we-all-just-get-along/
i guess
IBTL!!! Lol, saw on Cyanogen's twitter mentioning that all the files in one of your "Roms" checksummed the same as someone else's release... any truth to that?
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IBTL!!! Lol, saw on Cyanogen's twitter mentioning that all the files in one of your "Roms" checksummed the same as someone else's release... any truth to that?
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thats what i heard
jmhalder said:
IBTL!!! Lol, saw on Cyanogen's twitter mentioning that all the files in one of your "Roms" checksummed the same as someone else's release... any truth to that?
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thats what we call an exaggeration
care to elaborate? what remained the same?
kingklick said:
thats what we call an exaggeration
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so its not true??
meh....just for fun
WRONG SECTION!!! READ THE RULES!!!
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meh....just for fun
WRONG SECTION!!! READ THE RULES!!!
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LOL....
garok89 said:
meh....just for fun
WRONG SECTION!!! READ THE RULES!!!
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well im flashing your froyo now. well keep us updated king. not for or against anybody. dont know enough about deving to have an opinion.
seems very much a case of guilty until proven innocent.
All of this is stupid, this is a community working with something that is OPEN SOURCE, so nothing is technically stealing, but if you use someone's work, just give credit. People just need to grow up and work together.
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All of this is stupid, this is a community working with something that is OPEN SOURCE, so nothing is technically stealing, but if you use someone's work, just give credit. People just need to grow up and work together.
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thats true..but i think that you still need to get permission from others if someone is using other's stuff... ...unless its straight from AOSP...i believe thats the forum rool
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thats true..but i think that you still need to get permission from others if someone is using other's stuff... ...unless its straight from AOSP...i believe thats the forum rool
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well I'd love to see when that "rooL" is enforced
Download 75% of the sense hero roms on here, you'll see the a2sd script i put in my roms among MANY other things of MINE.
I WILL NOT NAME NAMES!
if u dont believe me Ill tweet the names to u
THIS IS OPEN SOURCE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BUY AN HD2
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well I'd love to see when that "rooL" is enforced
Download 75% of the sense hero roms on here, you'll see the a2sd script i put in my roms among MANY other things of MINE.
I WILL NOT NAME NAMES!
if u dont believe me Ill tweet the names to u
THIS IS OPEN SOURCE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BUY AN HD2
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open source does not mean you can go taking others people work and passing it off as your own... but I guess since you did one a2sd script that everyone used you feel it was right to take 95% of another rom and relabel it your own?
A simple credit would of taken care of this whole mess and kept everyone of your threads from being locked. It's not hard to tell others that YOU did not do everything in YOUR rom, but you choose to say you don't work with team douche but you sure are quick to take from them..
Let's make sure we are comparing apples to apples here King..
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thats what we call an exaggeration
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Well...I don't want to be an a-hole but I did find a file posted by firerat in your Froyo2G1 ROM...and...well....it doesn't really agree with your statement...as far as I can tell but there could be other forces at hand here <_< >_> that are trying to demolish your rep. I don't know...Just my .02$
Firstly I've moved this thread to general discussion. I'll leave a short redirect for it.
This is the original post from the moderator who closed your threads, posted by his request and awaiting your response.
Mikey1022 said:
Last night, I, locked all of KingKlick's Rom threads.
As for the reason, i have evidence he intentionally copied at least 2 Roms from respectable Android developers, renamed the and called them his own.
I dont have time, due too work, no internet at work.
He isn't banned at the moment, for later today, will be sending him a PM to open a thread in PUBLIC and explain himself.
Why public?? For the simple reason.........he kept shoving a donation link in every thread he created, unlike the other developers, he copy-catted from.
If anyone know about checksums , you can not really fake them, they are like encoded serial keys to a zip file?
Every change you make to a rom once you compile it, no matter how simple or minor it is, the overall checksum will change for that file and/or the overall checksum.
If someone wants to PM him for him and have him start his statement while im working, thank you. If not i will PM later tonight.
We can not/should not allow developers coping roms, collecting money on others hard work. As he calls it his own.
Im uploading the files right now to Mediafire, will have link later for all too look at if needed.
A couple mods on here know about King and his crap he has been pulling off, so it's not a big surprise.
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Gotta love the internet, where the rule of law means ****. Anyone ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
Heck, Klick hasn't even been formally notified by the XDA staff as to why his threads are locked, never mind a formal accusation. Yet it seems the community has already made it's decision, with pitchforks and torches in hand.
I'm sorry, but what a crock! If any of you were accused of an offense, i'm sure you'd all want the benefit of the doubt, and a fair hearing before being tarred and feathered!
I strongly encourage the XDA staff to contact Klick directly in regards to this issue, and to make a public statement. Anything less constitutes a witchhunt, and I for one do not want to sit idly by and watch that unfold!
My opinion on Kinklick92
We're cool. He's a nice person and his ROMz iz fizzle (if they really are his). I won't accuse him of anything but yeaah. We flame Justin Bieber on Twitter together soo...
WHAT'S YOUR TAKE!?
And btw, anybody know a good replacement for a toothbrush? DO NOT... SAY... FINGER!
i see what you did there
asb123 said:
i see what you did there
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I don't....What the heck?
Damn, all of this KingKlick92 criticism is making me want to flash HIS ROMs now.
asb123 said:
i see what you did there
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Right. So obvious?
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I don't....What the heck?
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THEN YOU ARE A FAKE DEV!
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Damn, all of this KingKlick92 criticism is making me want to flash HIS ROMs now.
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Flash his MT3G2G1 ROM. It's amazing.
Now really... toothbrush... please?
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THEN YOU ARE A FAKE DEV!
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Dude...Im not a dev in the first place lol. I just make small stuff like themes.
G1BRICKED said:
We're cool. He's a nice person and his ROMz iz fizzle (if they really are his). I won't accuse him of anything but yeaah. We flame Justin Bieber on Twitter together soo...
WHAT'S YOUR TAKE!?
And btw, anybody know a good replacement for a toothbrush? DO NOT... SAY... FINGER!
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I respect his work (At least most of his work ) hopefully he give's back his donations and has a good explanation to why he did do that.
He put a lot into this Community and for that Ill always respect him as a DEV.
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I respect his work (At least most of his work ) hopefully he give's back his donations and has a good explanation to why he did do that.
He put a lot into this Community and for that Ill always respect him as a DEV.
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I believe that if he just admits his damn faults and returns all the stolen cash, he's good. Him, kmobs, and chrissoyars need to stop arguing on Tweeter though.!
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I believe that if he just admits his damn faults and returns all the stolen cash, he's good. Him, kmobs, and chrissoyars need to stop arguing on Tweeter though.!
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I heard he used the money to get a N1 or Mytouch Slide, I'm not sure if that's true or not, dont like rumors. i still think his work is good b/c he does fix things and make'em better and has many good roms.
if the geek drama makes devs spend their time on doing things other than Dev'n then its bad
if the geek drama motivates them to dev more then its good
but i really dont care about geek drama....thats my opinion
Ace42 said:
I heard he used the money to get a N1 or Mytouch Slide, I'm not sure if that's true or not, dont like rumors. i still think his work is good b/c he does fix things and make'em better and has many good roms.
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He used to ask for donations from us for a Nexus One. He got it, and now asks for donations from them and US for "the next big phone". Sikke..
G1BRICKED said:
He used to ask for donations from us for a Nexus One. He got it, and now asks for donations from them and US for "the next big phone". Sikke..
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But remember that special word there "ASK"..He isn't putting a gun to any of your heads. He is following the rules asking for donations and he isn't doing anything wrong when it comes to the rules.
You can only ask for donations if its your own work.
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You can only ask for donations if its your own work.
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I highly agree with you.
I'm guessing that after his threads getting terminated at least for now we are safe from the android piped piper, hahaha.
Other websites careful the jig is up on xda and now its your turn until someone smart enough figures out his KingThief tendencies.
In before the close!!
(what? It's more worthwile than most responses on these threads)
I think KingKlick is a pretty cool guy. eh zips romz and doesnt afraid of anything...
I think he's cool too, but he needs to give credit were its due and not take it all for himself.
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I think KingKlick is a pretty cool guy. eh zips romz and doesnt afraid of anything...
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This.
He had his share of good times, sadly he's been getting donations for all the wrong reasons. It was quite clever until it became really obvious in his last rom.
Ehh shut up. Go lure some hot Canadian babes with chocolate chip cookies.
Lol there's no denying I make your g1 run faster. Like it or not its the reason I get hits
This is all hilarious
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
All the devs I have spoken to are seriously cold but seriously smart dudes, and not one wants to accept a suggestion upfront, but most do incorporate it anyway
Here is salutes to all you guys who have written coded designed or virally reposted any of your work. You make my heart skip a beat <3
within a sentence, you've manage to put an insult, a praise and display of gratitude...
and what's that for? Seems like you're not happy - and yet don't want to display it purely....
Maybe if he/she has made use of punctuations correctly, we would understand his/her statemant much easier.
WTF is this thread about????
Devs rock, I love em. Its about them, this thread.
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within a sentence, you've manage to put an insult, a praise and display of gratitude...
and what's that for? Seems like you're not happy - and yet don't want to display it purely....
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Are you a dev?
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Maybe if he/she has made use of punctuations correctly, we would understand his/her statemant much easier.
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Punctuations are correct only.
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WTF is this thread about????
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About devs
I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
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I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
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I think he says you guys snub him when he suggests something to you & later on end up using his pieces of wisdom without acknowledging him.
This thread is good
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I did read it and its kind of weird post.
I dont think other understand it as well.
So maby you shall explain what you mean.
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I for one know you have SERIOUS attitude problem. I hope you take it in the right sense.
Why don't you some out in the open & tell?
Favouriting this one...
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I love these threads. Awesome.
So let's see some names of attitudy devs -)
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WTF is this thread about????
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As this guy said ...
Its about Devs who live at a high altitude i think .
jje
This thread has Tigerblood!
Perhaps a warlock could help?
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This thread has Tigerblood!
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Don't forget the Adonis DNA.
#XDADEVS #WINNING
reflux21 said:
Are you a dev?
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why? do you sense my cold attitude and yet smart rebuff on your sentence?
but no.. i am not a dev - at least not on XDA.
Ok guys group hug?
Some people are tribal some dance to their own tune. Damian has ruffled many a feather here it seems but so be it he has pride in his work and seems to be a perfectionist, he has his tribe or rather had until the ext2 tribe disbanded along with z4mod and oclf... And the ext4 have theirs.
We all have our personality quirks and the devs often disagree which is expected and healthy.
I think the biggest weakness is pride which can prevent people admitting mistakes and learning from people who may actually know more. Since I am a layman I have no idea who is guilty of this not knowing technical coding talk.
I have seen some comments from Damian which sure seemed a bit rude, maybe a language barrier? Where are from Damian how well can you speak English? Btw... anyway I have grown to understand him an he has integrity and talent... and a Hot head LOL!
And I used ext2 with an old Damian kernel with no problems. Seemed ok to me, curious I even forced my phone to crash and pulled the battery with no problems. He still uses it and many using his new kernel too ...
My greatest respect for being the most diplomatic and humble of all the devs goes out to supercurio. A while back he found a serious bug in universal lag fix kernel, his direct competition, and didn't act smug about it or arrogant. In fact he wrote a kernel to fix the corrupted data this caused. And the ulfk guys promptly rectified it with a thanks. We all make mistakes. Considering his professional level of talent and amazing work he could be arrogant, plus he is French! (Joke).
C'mon I hate to see the stereotype childish, *****y geek coming out so much.
Now Damian, prove to us all you don't have to much pride or passive/aggressive problems with other devs and use some of the work from others in your great kernel that we all want. If you believe the code is sloppy or not up to your standard so be it. You are clearly not afraid to say so, so put it in a separate kernel version with a warning if you like and silence your critics.
Ok...another group hug people
Stock JPY, Insanity SpeedMod OC-1200Mhz/UV, ext4, JVE gingerbread Modem,
i apologize to any and everyone whose work i have used without getting your permission first i truely truely am sorry. i will be taking everything down that i have posted on xda that has other's work without them giving me permission to use it. and even once i ask them and they deny permission i will be taking the uploads down after that as well. again i'm sorry
as for everyone's comments about my HUGE MISTAKE I'M SORRY ABOUT....
LiquidSolstice said:
I never gave anyone permission to do this. You didn't ask me, you told me after the fact. I was planning on letting guitardoc take over, but this is just unacceptable.
Please take this down.
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i did post a comment on your thread asking you to pm me but you never did and i got impatient and hyped up about things and i just rushed things and posted finished stable builds of your rom without your permission thinking things would be okay if i emphisized 3x on the thread i didn't do anything but finish your rom all credit goes to you for all other work. but again i went about things the wrong way i wasn't trying to take full credit for your rom i thought i made that clear in the first post but i guess saying it 3x still isn't the right way to go about things, glad to see we're working things out (btw everyone check out the title of his thread now ) for the better now bro! so i'd like to say this publicly, SORRY FOR USING YOUR ROM WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION LIQUID! (i wanted to say that on the forum so everyone saw lol ) do you accept my appology liquid? (impaler please ____ , you know what we talked about, after liquid post his reply)
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Uh-oh!
Sent from my Pedal to the Metal Hero
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I know i made a big uh oh!
LiquidSolstice said:
Let's get something straight here, because it seems you're all offended right now. You can stop fishing for pity or sympathy, because I have none for you.
"help" would have been PMing me what you tried to do, I could test it, and if it works, the links would get posted on the ORIGINAL thread with full credit to you. Hell, I would have put a goddamn donate button right next to links to you. That's how proper crediting goes. I credit with permission every single person who has tested or fixed something for me with the ROM, and that would not have been any different.
Instead, without telling me, you copied my thread, put up a modified version of my ROM, and told me only AFTER the fact that you did so.
You have some INSANE issues with understanding permission and crediting, and as I understand it, this isn't your first time. It doesn't matter if you put my name in 72 BOLD pt in this thread, you never asked me and you posted a whole damn new thread for it. That's just not ok.
If you really want to be "omg super-hero dev", you need to start earning your fellow dev's respect, and right now, that's not working out for you.
If you're still interested in being credited for this, PM me with the download links, I'll check them out, and if they are ok, I'll put it in my original 2.1.1 thread with full credit to you. That's how it works.
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i really want to earn my fellow dev's respect but i keep screwing up i'm sorry again bro. and i'm reading the forum rules about crediting as we speak right now.
laie1472 said:
LMAO I gotta post on this. Sup kifno man?? How can you post take down jasonmaloney and i's rom??? When in the op man you don't give him credit for anything. You state you have finished up ls's rom not jasonmaloney and you. And come on kifno you didn't even ask the man could you work on his rom??? Wow impressive.
Yea its me Again With the
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no i asked to take down jasonmaloney's build and my build (two seperate things) b/c we both posted our build's on liquid's thread without his permission.....which was a big no no....but i made things worse by making a seperate thread....again sorry liquid. so there was no need to credit jasonmaloney, laie i know i messed up big time smh stupid move on my part
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Not that it matters much, but his ROMs and jasonmaloney's are separate. jasonmaloney just put his in Liquid's original 2.1.1 thread here.
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exactly what i was saying about taking down our build's....
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At least jasonmaloney did not try to make a brand new thread about it. He would have asked me ahead of time, as a proper dev should.
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again i asked ahead of time on the thread but no reply but i did screw things up worse by making this thread again sorry....
il Duce said:
this is EXACTLY what I was talking about in the NFX rom that you put up as your own, you are officially a KANGAHOLIC, and people have been and should be banned for it. Every thread you posts seems to be less about development and more about popularity, you even say **** like "my rom" which you could only REALLY say if you built it from google source, which you obviously can't do. I sincerely hope liquid reported you to the Scotsman, and appropriate action is taken. you = sick. me = sickened.
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i said in my rom's thread that it was based of nfx rom and i gave him credit, i said what i did. i didn't do what i did with liquid's rom, two completely different things... il Duce ik i screwed up with this rom and again i won't be making any mess ups like this again (me = thinking before my actions from now on xda) sorry
LiquidSolstice said:
it's not even as though I would have minded him PMing me first or even do what Jasonmaloney did (posting it as a reply in the original thread )
My rom (I say that very loosely) is based on nfx, but only with full permission from nfinite and on popular request. Even further I credited (with permission ) anyone who helped in testing or debugging, and that is the proper thing to do.
I'm just disappointed. that's the worst of it.
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again my apologies are given to you, do you accept? i know i screwed up big time bro....smh big mistake here
33hfl said:
LS should be out of this and not to be so ofended or asking for any recognition about what someone did when he walked away from his own ROM.He sould thank this guy for finish what he started and never finished after a lot of promess and excuses
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no bro i screwed up...i can't even agree to anything you just said b/c all i wanted to do was help
il Duce said:
oh my god you cannot be serious. smh
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read what i said
33hfl said:
go kifno good work
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good work = yes did i mess up? = HELL YEAH!
FdxRider said:
FORUM RULES12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
Seek permission <---- What part of that do you or kifno not understand?
Doesn't matterr if it's been dormant for long time still LS's work. Follow the forum rules.
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i am reading and MEMORIZING the forum rules as of now
dpeeps74 said:
Oh man, I'm team Jacob!
Wait, wrong drama
~run, run, as fast as you can, can't catch me I'm the gingerbread man~
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lol wow
33hfl said:
I dont know why LS is crying right now when he wallked away from his own ROM after a lot of excuses and promises.he turned his back on his own son.He should thank this man for the woderful job done.Or he forgot his post.Kifno never took credit for what he was doing,he always gave it to LS
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i did give credit to him 3x throughout the post and said all i did was finish it as he planned to but i went about it wrong....
FdxRider said:
LMAO u sew funneeeeee! NOT!
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ik that was funny right?
jasonmaloney said:
Again with the hostility.
Folks, there is a report post button on every single post on this site. You would all do better to use it than to fill up the development forum with unnecessary drama.
Yes, it wasn't very smart to use LiquidSolstice's work without his permission AND to start a new thread for it with a misleadingly similar title. But the bickering and harassment isn't any more accepted by the rules, nor is it productive in any constructive way. It doesn't really matter who was originally right or wrong; this forum is getting flooded with way too much verbal diarrhea. This is not the XDA mantra.
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again i apologize for doing what i did to even create this drama....this wouldn't have happened if i did things the correct way....sorry
someonenewhere said:
What's the big deal?
The man gave LS credit and he said it "I'm just finishing what LS COULDN'T FINISH"
LS, if you don't want people to finish your ROM. Maybe YOU SHOULD TRY FINISHING YOUR ROM..
You left your ROM out there as a bastard child and that bastard child found a father to take care of it.
WHY CRY ABOUT IT?
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no no i went about things wrong i take full responsiblity for my mistake...sorry liquid
LiquidSolstice said:
Excellent contribution. It must be nice, sitting there just using other people's work and never really taking the time to find out how it all comes together. I'm sure you must be spoiled and basically taking all these custom ROMs you get for granted as most people seem to these days. Just a quick look at any tech blog concerning Android, and you'll find comments such as "oh I'm not worried, XDA will figure it out". People freeload off this place so willingly, paying nothing in either donation or even respect/appreciation (which is all most devs are looking for)
In the meantime, we'll just go with this; my rom = my rom. Whether or not I want to finish it, or whether or not I want it to be finished, or in this case, wehther or not I want someone else to do it, that would be my choice. I put in the hours, I put in the time, you did nothing.
I left the ROM because no one seemed to give a damn about it, and I'm finding out increasingly that I was very wrong about that. If you looked at Chef Central on the Main XDA Forum page, you'll find a few threads by me asking for help with the last bit of cooking, which was the kernel. I didn't notice that Kifno figured it out, and only realized what I needed to fo when jasonmaloney PMed me. I said I had every intention of making it stable, and I was indeed working on it.
Which means that it is my task and my right to put up the final update to my own ROM, not have someone else do it without even letting me know beforehand or asking me, and then posting my exact thread over again instead of PMing me the link to add it in the OP, and then telling me after the fact.
Kifno has already got in touch with me and we're working it out, you guys can relax now.
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again we talked things out and i'm sorry bro. and yes i may just be improving others work (the espreeso 2.1 rom i posted) and changing things, i never took full credit actually most of it goes to nfx b/c everyday i wake up he has a pm in my inbox helping me out with the espresso 2.1 rom, it wouldn't be where it is at without his help. only thing i can take full credit for is my build.prop's thats the only thing i actually did from my own work as for the espresso 2.1 rom that was from the help of many other members on this site, i never took full credit for that rom. i use the term my rom, when i refer to the espresso 2.1 rom, b/c i changed it, not b/c i developed it from scratch and did everything to it on my own, i'm not a super-dev yet lol. i'm just improving other's work and learning along the way and giving them credit and asking permission along the way from now on until i know enough to make something of my own again (besides text files lol) that will be of great help to the community....but for now i'm focuses on improving my rom (AGAIN IT ISN'T COMPLETELY MY ROM MANY OTHERS HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY) and helping others with their work for the hero and problems....first person on the list....liquid!!!!!! (we're pming each other now folks working this out for the better so its alright)
kevphan08 said:
So.....can we use the Rom or No.....Just seems like it was a mistake by the OP to reuse LS's unfinished work without permission, that obviously was a mistake, but if the rom is up and running and "stable" can we just not forgive and forget?
I'm just wondering, not taking a stance/side just a user asking a question.
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we're working on things right now...
You know what man, you're a smark kid, you just take things a bit fast.
You'll grow to understand what it means to command respect here, and I'm sure you'll earn it from everyone. This place is bursting with ideas and creativity, but just PM ROM devs in the future. Every ROM dev needs help, there's no denying that. Sometimes the help you have to offer isn't enough or isn't to their preference, but there's never any harm in PMing to find out.
As far as my ROM goes, with your help, we'll finish this up and finally put an end to all this over exaggerated madness.
E huuuuuuuuug
[dpeeps74]
I think we all learned something here (I sure did), and that's a positive.
Kifno:
I understand you're trying to help, but make it short and sweet. We don't need a full passive - aggressive rundown of events.
I think you would do a great service to yourself (and the people reading your long disjointed posts) if you learned to use some basic English language sentence structure. Your lack of punctuation and your paragraphs of run-on sentences makes you look uneducated and immature.
You're not a bad person, so please take this as constructive criticism.
Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
FdxRider said:
Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
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I AGREE with FDX.... RESPECT MAN!!
KIFNO, Admitted he was Wrong!!
That's Big in itself!! It's seems these days, People find it SO MUCH EASIER to just LIE, or BULL**** their way through MISTAKES and basically LIFE in general!
Kifno DIDN'T DO THAT! Instead he owned up to his MISTAKES....
"LIKE a MAN" Should do!
After the Fact, at the End of the Day, All that's Left to come to some sort RECONCILIATION is a TRUE from the HEART a APOLOGY!!
*Sent On My*
Fast as its Ever Been...
"Sprint" Hero... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero*ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA.BLUE.apk! "Page:10"of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
Hey kifno
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App
U no tjsy myvrnhlo
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App
Wow man great job kifno. It's tough to own up in the face of so many people watching this, you're really just a good person beyond the scope of these forums. I'm proud to call you a fellow human being. I've been watching this escalate and deescalate and I must say it's been a roller coaster ride. I must say some people have been a bit harsher than they should have, but it's understandable when looked at from a different perspective. Kudos to you again.
I'm excited about how the ROM is moving forward at lightning speed right now. Note, LS, that I'm actually using your ROM right now (2.1 stable) and I llllllllooooove it! keep up the good work, I bet it's time-consuming and frustrating to look through and optimize so much code!
~ Jake
Thanks everyone
And I'm not a grammar freak lol I don't treat my post as essays I just type what comes to mind lol that's why my paragraph structure and grammar look bad on the forums just like this very long run on sentence but really constantly working, and school, and keeping 5 roms (mine and ls 4 builds) and my tweak up to date with fixes and new tweaks and optimizations is very time consuming and hard to fit all in one day lol but I just want to help the community and I plan on doing that the right way, LESSON LEARNED HERE, BTW look out for kifno & ls projects in the future
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
Many thanks!!
In the aftermath of all this stuff, I just want to say that truly I appreciate ALL the hard work that you devs put into keeping our Heroes from becoming paperweights. Just the small amount of work I've put into making my own themes for myself makes me appreciate the scope of talent and sheer blood, sweat, and tears it takes to make this stuff work.
ALL YOU DEVS ROCK!!!
oohaylima said:
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol Ya got me cop'er.
user7618 said:
You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol.... Good **** Guys, Gotta Nice Laugh Outta Me!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
user7618 said:
You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
kifno said:
Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
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Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
PMGRANDS said:
Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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lmao! --> extra characters because my message was too short.