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Ok, so I installed the HTC Messaging fix, not sure if that did this or whether it did it before, but here goes...
I know this may be discussed else where, but this is progress on the issue at least and hopefully this might spark a few ideas rather than people just advising "it doesn't work, HTC sux"
** I think this does fix the lag, in a round about way **
Ok, bare with me on this...
I installed the update and it fixed nothing for me, I'm mainly having issues with the lag on messaging.
I noticed in Task Manager (installed Dutty's) that the Messaging app is called "Start" which is when I load messages from HTC Sense UI. Loading this way, still got the lag.
If I disable HTC Sense UI and load messages, its instant. Yes the messages still load down the side but I can now tap and create a new message while this is loading. SPOT ON, FIXED!
Ok, now in Task Manager I notice this is called "HTC Messaging", not "Start", so I'm thinking, cool, its reset the messaging app and sorted it out. So I enable HTC Sense UI again and back to same problem, this loads "Start".
So.... I first installed the hotfix with Sense UI enabled, which didn't resolve the problem unless Sense UI wasn't on.
I've tried installing again with Sense UI disabled, but I have the same issue.
So yes, the problem is fixed in a way, but it is Sense UI that seems to be loading this "Start" messaging app.
Can someone else try this to confirm? Or can some really clever person fix what I've started...?
Edit -- It happens all the time now, I disable HTC Sense UI and the Messaging program changes its name when loaded. WTF? Come on guys, let me know if you have the same issues.
Wow. 51 views and not 1 person has posted back to say whether turning their HTC Sense UI off has resolved this problem.
Come on!!!
It did...
It does solve the problem... Plus it makes a full charge last aprox. 40% longer, oh yeah and also generally speeds up everything on the phone.
I've written this to HTC but who knows if they listen. It has also been posted a couple of times in this forum.
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It has also been posted a couple of times in this forum.
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Has it, my bad, haven't seen it anywhere and read through a massive chunk. Ah well, as long as people are aware
Hi All,
Very weird one this, I hard reset due to installing that virus (3d shoot 'em up thing here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650393 ) and have come across a strange issue within Sense.
When I press "Settings" in the start menu (or slide across to it within Sense) I get the HTC settings menu, so far so good.
When I press "All Settings" under 'Menu' it opens the 'Connections' window, not the standard Windows settings, if I close the 'Connections' window, it returns me to the HTC settings menu.
Anyone know where I might be able to change the link, or at least find what the 'Connections' link is, so I may track it down please?
sorry. didn't fully read your post.
Half-asleep.
Please ignore me this time.
rickyoon.vegas said:
sorry. didn't fully read your post.
Half-asleep.
Please ignore me this time.
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No problem.
I've managed to display the "All Settings" icon, albeit from within the Start Menu using the registry:
hklm -> security -> shell -> startinfo - change the "hidesettings" to 0.
I've found from the above, that "cplmain.cpl,19" seems to reference 'Connections', so pointing my search toward that at the moment.
Unless anyone else has any assistance?
Just noticed your post and having suffered also at the hands of the 3d terrorist bastards I thought I'd check mine......guess what.......all settings displays just fine, everythings there and opens up, trying to get out of it though is a different story, pressing "ok" just causes a pause, screen flicker and then same settings screen to reload.
Another problem I'm having since that virus is neither the htc music player or windows media player work at all.
ringtone doesnt play either.
Is that another hard reset I hear approaching?
conantroutman said:
Just noticed your post and having suffered also at the hands of the 3d terrorist bastards I thought I'd check mine......guess what.......all settings displays just fine, everythings there and opens up, trying to get out of it though is a different story, pressing "ok" just causes a pause, screen flicker and then same settings screen to reload.
Another problem I'm having since that virus is neither the htc music player or windows media player work at all.
ringtone doesnt play either.
Is that another hard reset I hear approaching?
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Unfortunately, I've had to hard reset mine.
It now works fine, maybe just needed another kick!
Same, 2nd hard reset and all is well........ for now!
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Unfortunately, I've had to hard reset mine.
It now works fine, maybe just needed another kick!
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Same, 2nd hard reset and all is well........ for now!
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These stories are tragic disappointments... I cannot believe everything that has surfaced from this TROJAN program. It's unbelievable... because here we thought that such a thing would NEVER happen to any of us.
I think more attention should be paid towards this issue... it's a rather SERIOUS inconvenience for a lot of people.
Hmmm not had any issues with this trojan other than it dialling out, although I did switch off the phone as it was half way through it's hilarious attempt at pissing me off. Media player is fine, sms is fine, email fine, rss reader, shares, weather, in fact the phone is now running better than ever
One things for sure, I reckon open market will be hit hard by this, once bitten twice shy so to speak.
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Hmmm not had any issues with this trojan other than it dialling out, although I did switch off the phone as it was half way through it's hilarious attempt at pissing me off. Media player is fine, sms is fine, email fine, rss reader, shares, weather, in fact the phone is now running better than ever
One things for sure, I reckon open market will be hit hard by this, once bitten twice shy so to speak.
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Nah, I'm a glutton for punishment.
I've learnt a hell of a lot about the registry on this thing that I wouldn't have gone near otherwise!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/htc-has-fix-in-the-works-for-evo-4g-screen-sensitivity-separati/
I am glad that the Glass separation issues are minor (not to me since I am experiencing it) and that HTC has a software patch in the works for the screen sensitivity, but what about the 30fps cap? Is that what is causing the screen sensitivity? If so, does that mean a software patch alone will fix the 30fps problem? Come on, engadget! Stop giving HTC a pass! Keep this thing in the news until they provide a real fix to the EVO!
I think there is quite a bit of confusion about the various bugs/issues and which one is which.
The major issues, IMHO:
1) Lower screen separation - purely hardware
2) Upper screen touch sensitivity / grounding issue - assumed to be hardware but engadget's report makes it seem like it is software
3) 30 FPS limit - could be either hardware or software
4) Touch input lag - could be purely due to the 30FPS limit as many people are assuming but maybe its not
Don't forget, FB contact pics dont auto or manual update to phone.
Raadius said:
Don't forget, FB contact pics dont auto or manual update to phone.
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I just noticed this happening too. Is this a software issue? Any workarounds? I removed my FB account from sync and re-added it and it updated all the contact photos, but that's not very fun to do every day. Haha...
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Don't forget, FB contact pics dont auto or manual update to phone.
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This happens on the HTC Desire...so I am thinking it might be a bug in the Sense UI
I sort of forgot to mention...for sake of battery I do not keep mine "auto-updated"
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Don't forget, FB contact pics dont auto or manual update to phone.
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Really this is an issue? Mine does.
Yeah, no Facebook problem here. My pictures update fine.
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Breakthecycle2 said:
Really this is an issue? Mine does.
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mine auto updates just fine...when someone changes their contact picture in facebook it auto changes in my phone...
Freelancerx said:
mine auto updates just fine...when someone changes their contact picture in facebook it auto changes in my phone...
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I believe this is true but I know for a fact that any contacts added to the homescreen as a shortcut won't be updated. At least there's no way that I've found.
Well I have Hardware version 0002
- No issues with separation
- With a few changes to the settings I got my battery to get me to 40% at the end of the day with average use
- No screen sensitivity issues that I could see.
- The 30fps does not bother me at all...
To be honest this phone is worlds better then my TP which was only just over 1.5 years old... I have nothing to complain about.
Sorry in advance if these have already been pointed out and/or fixed.
I'm aware that this is a leaked beta but i'm having some strange issues.
Mainly being the market not downloading apps. I can browse the internet, browse the market, but nothing will download.
Anyone know of a way to fix this?
Also, i was quite disappointed with the fact that they did next to nothing to the absolutely terrible camera. The shutter speed appears to have improved *slightly* but pictures are still far too sharp and over saturated.
On the other hand, i do like the 720p filming
Another thing i noticed is that interacting with the live wallpapers is way off. When you press the 'Nexus' live wallpaper, the actual 'hit' is almost an inch out. Not a huge deal, just something that's annoying me.
On the plus side, the live wallpapers are incredibly smooth. A lot smoother than on my Nexus, god knows how dell managed that!
But my main hate, the one that annoys me to no end, is that you can now only have 6 icons in landscape. Wtf was the point in that dell? You took the best thing about this phone and made it worse!
Apart from alllll those things, i'm absolutely loving the 2.1 update (especially the dialler) but because of the above mentioned things i'm getting tempted to go back to 1.6. I need to download things dammit!
Another 2 issues that bothered me were the crap keyboard which is VERY slow and if you rush it you get mistypes, sometimes I have to press the same button twice as it did nothing the first time and I get a spelling mistake in every word, the keyboard is messed up.
Anyway to get the superior keyboard from the previous 1.6 with the lovely numpad?
Secondly, there are some problems with the wallpaper/homescreens. There is no way to add or remove them, seems I'm stuck with 6.
I tried to set a simple wallpaper on say screen one and it stretches right outside the screen and fills all 6 screens up, why??!!
I am using the same wallpapers before that are specially for the streak and are set at 800X480 and it stretches one pic across all screeens and it looks distorted, why?
Before I upgraded, I could go to screen one, put a wallpaper, it would fit fine and only in one screen, not fill the other ones too.
Can ANYONE think why this is or even a fix to this problem?
At the moment I have more problems with 2.1 than 1.6...
Glad to see I'm not the only one with these issues. I can't stand the new keyboard, driving me mad but I'll survive. I don't like the new layout of the icons and the fact you can no longer have multiple backgrounds is a shame. Also I've noticed certain widgets just won't sit in the centre of the home screens any more.
I'm hoping because this is a leak that Dell haven't added their personal touches yet and that this will come when they go official otherwise I'll be a sad panda!
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Glad to see I'm not the only one with these issues. I can't stand the new keyboard, driving me mad but I'll survive. I don't like the new layout of the icons and the fact you can no longer have multiple backgrounds is a shame. Also I've noticed certain widgets just won't sit in the centre of the home screens any more.
I'm hoping because this is a leak that Dell haven't added their personal touches yet and that this will come when they go official otherwise I'll be a sad panda!
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Yeah, I guess we have to stick with what we have until it's officially released.
At least we have SOME improvements...
The portions you mention I have not had. It sounds like you have a few issues with your install.
With regards to we everthing else, 2.1 ain't perfect but its a tonne better than the 1.6
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Of course by portions I mean problems....the swype keyboard although better its still far from perfect
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These issues may go away when the final 2.1 is released
clear the dalvik cache, that sorted the marketplace for me
Hi Meltus
If your Google E-Mail account is Googlemail change it to gmail by logging in through your computer and use the option to change it to a gmail address and that has fixed the Market problems for me and some others hope it works for you.
Marc
Any one else having issues that when talking on the phone with headphones in if you press the lock button it hangs up the call? Found something that drives me even more mad than the keyboard lol.
Not sure what I am doing wrong , but I can't seem to use any 3rd party keyboards ? They install OK , I can select them , but then when I go to use them , the Dell one pops up. (Any ideas ? )
The only issue I noticed , is that the Sleep/wake button stops working properly occasionally , instead of putting the device to sleep , it dims the screen , but the screen stays on ,
Not sure what is going on here , I think the phone may "think" its asleep , as the live wallpaper stops moving , but the screen is definately still awake.
The only way out is to reboot by taking the battery cover off !
Seems an isolated problem I don't have any problem downloading just that some games wont work - more importantly launcherpro looks very strange with tiny icons! Spread a across the screen with Hugh gaps.
kenmckean
i have had EVERY issue above! its beta so im not going to complain but i just hope its much better once the ota arrives
Dogmann said:
Hi Meltus
If your Google E-Mail account is Googlemail change it to gmail by logging in through your computer and use the option to change it to a gmail address and that has fixed the Market problems for me and some others hope it works for you.
Marc
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However, I do believe if you change to Gmail from Googlemaill, any apps you bought with your Googlemail account are NOT carried over.
Hence you have to purchase again, this is why I haven't made the switch yet, until that issue is resolved I will be staying as Googlemail.
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Not sure what I am doing wrong , but I can't seem to use any 3rd party keyboards ? They install OK , I can select them , but then when I go to use them , the Dell one pops up. (Any ideas ? )
The only issue I noticed , is that the Sleep/wake button stops working properly occasionally , instead of putting the device to sleep , it dims the screen , but the screen stays on ,
Not sure what is going on here , I think the phone may "think" its asleep , as the live wallpaper stops moving , but the screen is definately still awake.
The only way out is to reboot by taking the battery cover off !
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Exactly the same problem here.
And to change keyboards, you select it and long press a text box (like in messages) then you pick the keyboard you want from there.
Anyway, i fixed my market problem by changing my e-mail from 'googlemail' to 'gmail' (thanks doggman) and then wiping the phone. Not sure which made it work, or whether it was a combination of both, but it's working good now
Issues I've noticed so far: (Maybe nitpicking but I'm comparing it to all my other Androids)
- Live Wallpaper could be smoother. It's pretty smooth but on such a large screen, little glitches are very noticeable.
- Though the keyboard is a lot more comfortable to use without the numpad throwing the right thumb off, the responsiveness is gone from the previous keyboard. But I'm sticking with it cause its alot better looking than 'Better Keyboard' or 'Smart Keyboard'
- No pinch-to-zoom on pictures in the gallery...very disappointing
- Pinch-to-zoom for maps is there, but responsiveness needs work. Almost as bad as Blackberry Torch's pinch-to-zoom. HAHAHA
- Photos seem more saturated than when it was running 1.6. Even affects photos when being used as 'Picture Frame' widget.
- Aside from the saturation of pictures though, the screen display overall is impressive. Quality has improved, sharpness has improved, the HD-feel is there for the home screens. I could even say that it is comparable to the iPhone 4, and better than the Galaxy S display. Theres room for improvements though... better font for icon titles, increase sharpness, less colour overflow.
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However, I do believe if you change to Gmail from Googlemaill, any apps you bought with your Googlemail account are NOT carried over.
Hence you have to purchase again, this is why I haven't made the switch yet, until that issue is resolved I will be staying as Googlemail.
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I can confirm that this ISN'T the case and all my apps carried over perfectly
fards said:
clear the dalvik cache, that sorted the marketplace for me
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Fards, Does this give access to missing market apps? I guess I need to be root'd to do this?
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Meltus said:
I can confirm that this ISN'T the case and all my apps carried over perfectly
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Excellent!......... *goes and finds gmail conversion*
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Fards, Does this give access to missing market apps? I guess I need to be root'd to do this?
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it did for me, but others claim it doesnt work..
I already signed in with a gmail account and found apps were missing, so I read up on it and several people said to clear the dalvik cache, so I did and the apps came back..
yeah you need root, the universal one click root thing is so easy to do and undo that its fairly painfree...
[Q] Phone app, Contacts app rant
I love my SGS, hence i want to rant about it
Dialing from contacts, phone takes always one extra step than other phones.
if i already took the time to set defaults manually,
(1) why do i have to select the number to call again (contacts, solution could be viewing button on far right from the contact name) or
(2) when i use smart dial and am satisfied with first suggestion why do i have to select it then press call (phone app, if i want to call other suggestions they already show it separately in a drop down)?
after a month of using my sgs i still hold the phone to my ear and wait for a while, until i realize i hadn't pressed the green button.
(3) in contacts app i can search my friends by nickname, but ONLY IF i edited their nickname through contacts app, i.e. if it's imported from gmail and i never edited it on my phone it fails to find by nickname.
(4) smart dial is not so smart as it can't search by nickname, unless it's the only field for the contact in the phone's phonebook, huh? so i have to manually add new contacts to phone, then link them, for my closest people (phone app) if it's okay for a handful of people but starting from 20 i start cursing samsung app devs
(5) for my business contacts... it avoids searching by last name, what? (phone app)
then the editing, grouping etc... but since i don't add people daily i can make it work through other apps.
so are there solutions, that you know of, to these woes ?
1. I think the default number only applies outside the contact app (like a shortcut). But if you open it from contact it has to show you all the contact info (otherwise how else can dial the other numbers of that contact that is not the default??).
2. I think this is to cater for the 3G video call option.
3/4/5. It is kind of lame the phone app search only matches from beginning of name and not the entire string. (Hopefully new firmware can cater to this). Luckily the global search (i.e. long press menu key) matches everything. You may want to use this to find instead of opening the phone/contact app. It is much faster
In the contacts settings you can set the order to last name before first name, then you can search by last name.
If you want to call default number just flick the contact name right. Flick it left for message.
pippin88 said:
If you want to call default number just flick the contact name right. Flick it left for message.
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Hey thanks for the tip
was it in the manual? (which i never read for any device....)
Well thats just great.
I am seriously so fed up with Samsung its not even funny. I am never buying one of there products ever again.
I said that I would never buy another Samsung product after my last Samsung phone, the Instinct. That was by far the worst phone I have ever owned. I with I had have stuck to that promise.
Oh well. I guess I learned the wrong way.
I think I might just try to sell this pos for as much as I can get for it and buy an HTC Desire HD.
Piece of crap! Grrrrrrrrr
I have put up with this phones issues for months, thinking wait for froyo and see if it helps things. To my delight froyo just became available for o2 uk customers, so I quickly updated. I was like a child with a new toy...but now feel like its broke/lost!
Firstly firstly beaufiful widgets doesn't seen to work properly on froyo. But my main gripe is the new found super lag. I cant even type this message without the phone stuttering! Scrolling up and down in anything...it stutters...like wtf?
Whats my best bet? Hard reset? If so how do I do it? If I backup my contacts on kies will it restore to a factory rest phone?
Any advice is welcome!
Btw running JP3
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djglenn1337 said:
I have put up with this phones issues for months, thinking wait for froyo and see if it helps things. To my delight froyo just became available for o2 uk customers, so I quickly updated. I was like a child with a new toy...but now feel like its broke/lost!
Firstly firstly beaufiful widgets doesn't seen to work properly on froyo. But my main gripe is the new found super lag. I cant even type this message without the phone stuttering! Scrolling up and down in anything...it stutters...like wtf?
Whats my best bet? Hard reset? If so how do I do it? If I backup my contacts on kies will it restore to a factory rest phone?
Any advice is welcome!
Btw running JP3
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backup your apps with titanium backup
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restore (only user apps and data, no system data)
Thanks for the reply. How do I actually factory reset? Can't find it in settings
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Thanks for the reply. How do I actually factory reset? Can't find it in settings
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Settings/Privacy/Factory Data reset
I feel your pain.
Even going to JPO theres still lag, and the number of hacks that have to be done to get away from RFS and make the phone actually perform like it should is crazy.
I ended up defecting to an iPhone 4, but still have the SGS waiting for the day when its lag free and performing the way it should.
IMO the SGS "could" be way better than the iPhone, but it just needs Samsuck to pull the finger out.
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I feel your pain.
Even going to JPO theres still lag, and the number of hacks that have to be done to get away from RFS and make the phone actually perform like it should is crazy.
I ended up defecting to an iPhone 4, but still have the SGS waiting for the day when its lag free and performing the way it should.
IMO the SGS "could" be way better than the iPhone, but it just needs Samsuck to pull the finger out.
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I did the same and defected to iPhone 4. I will be selling my Galaxy S as I don't believe Samsung will resolve the issues. They have had plenty of time to do this already and nothing has happened. Even with the XDA Developers showing them the problems and coming up with solutions they still have a laggy phone whcih lacks in so many way's. Don't even get me started on Kies.
In the end I bought an iPhone 4 and iPad wifi. Using iTunes and everything is working correctly.
Do yourself a favour...........
No no, its a great phone
Just need to apply mods/hacks/roots etc to make it work apparently and when update comes out you undo it all then redo it all again and hope for best.
I think it would be a great phone if it didn't lag so much.
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JP3 is sh*t. use another firmware
use doc's or darky's and wait for cm6.1 that'll surely be free from lags.
I will have to disagree. I got my galaxy s 3 months replacing iphone 3gs. It came with eclair 2.1 and it was perfect. I did the froyo update the day it came out with the reg hack and kept on getting freezes and force close. Did a factory reset and everything was fine. Did the new official update JPA with no reset and again perfect. The only program that lagged a little was email. Did the one click lag fix and now everything is smooth and fast. With over 50 apps i have no problems at all. My only gripe is that it should have more available ram and with flash on the browser stutters on flash heavy sites.
Apart from that i am very happy. By the way a get sattelite lock on my gps from a cold start in 30 seconds!
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What most users are forgetting is when you upgrade the ROM from Eclair to Froyo you MUST perform a Factory Reset.
Doing so will eliminate a lot of the problems with current Apps.
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No no, its a great phone
Just need to apply mods/hacks/roots etc to make it work apparently and when update comes out you undo it all then redo it all again and hope for best.
I think it would be a great phone if it didn't lag so much.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
Ok, been using the phone on and off today without to much trouble...
Till now. Just disconnected phone from charger and and tried facebook app, no go apk failed, same with xda app etc etc. stock browser started but font size was huge and screen res wrong. Power off fixed it... Scary stuff
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sounds like what happened when my SD card started showing signs of failing.
prepare for the worst.
knock on wood, my replacement hasn't acted up yet.
Ok, been using the phone on and off today without to much trouble...
Till now. Just disconnected phone from charger and and tried facebook app, no go apk failed, same with xda app etc etc. stock browser started but font size was huge and screen res wrong. Power off fixed it... Scary stuff
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lol this has happened a few times to ppl....just out luck