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I read a few articles about the auto sync (usb) cable.
There seems to be a "bug" when charging with this cable the battery charges till it's full (100%) and than discharges the battery again.
Is this is the same with the usb cradle?
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Panja
Is the cable you are talking about a charger to run from the USB port of a desktop to the XDA, without the need for the charger? Where can I get one? I only got 1 power charger & keep it at home (where I dont have a pC) & my cradle at work (where I do), it would be nice to be able to charge at work too!
Does anyone know where to get a new charger adapter plug from (the one to use for charging without the cradle) mine is getting a bit knackered!
cheers!
Don't know m8.
I was just asking around because I read stuff about it on some pages.
try www.expansys.com
Can someone answer my question.
Thanks
Has anybody used a usb sync & charger cable for the Himalaya (XDAII) ? I would like to buy one which works for sure. The one from Lil'sync did a very bad job cos it sync's only without charging.
Panja said:
I read a few articles about the auto sync (usb) cable.
There seems to be a "bug" when charging with this cable the battery charges till it's full (100%) and than discharges the battery again.
Is this is the same with the usb cradle?
Thanks
Panja
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I was the one who started the thread about this problem with the sync'n'charge cable. If you read my posts in the following thread, you will see that the cradle doesn't have the charging problem:
Sync-charge cable charges to 100%, then discharges
thanks for the reply m8
Will be looking @ your thread in a few secs.
cheers
Nina said:
Has anybody used a usb sync & charger cable for the Himalaya (XDAII) ? I would like to buy one which works for sure. The one from Lil'sync did a very bad job cos it sync's only without charging.
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Oh No ..... I didn't realise this ... and I've got one on the way to me. By the way I take the cradle to work every day but leave the mains adaptor plugged in at home. The cradle with just the sync cable is quite capable of charging the phone at work, and I'm sure once it gets to 100% it stays there.
I remember on my WinMo phones there was a program to speed up the charging through a USB port. Anyone know of a similar app, hack, what have you for our Heros?
all that ever got me was an overheated phone. and defective batteries
Negrito said:
I remember on my WinMo phones there was a program to speed up the charging through a USB port. Anyone know of a similar app, hack, what have you for our Heros?
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you could try a wireless charger, or use the normal wall charger or get a 3rd party battery.
I use a 3rd party battery, and my phone charges from Dead, to full in under 2 hours. i think my brand battery is a radioshack one but i dont remember, and im too lazy to look lol
If the phone detects that it's hooked to a USB port, it'll charge more slowly because the typical computer port will only output 500 mA. A wall charger typically does a full amp.
codelockdown said:
you could try a wireless charger, or use the normal wall charger or get a 3rd party battery.
I use a 3rd party battery, and my phone charges from Dead, to full in under 2 hours. i think my brand battery is a radioshack one but i dont remember, and im too lazy to look lol
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No thank you, i dont need something else to carry around. I work next to a computer. it just sucks that if my phone is near dead in the am when i arrive to work it will have to be tethered to the computer most of the day to fully recharge.
kynetx said:
If the phone detects that it's hooked to a USB port, it'll charge more slowly because the typical computer port will only output 500 mA. A wall charger typically does a full amp.
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yes, thank you. i know. that's why i am asking for a program to trick the device into believing its always the wall charger while its plugged into anything with that program running.
Negrito said:
yes, thank you. i know. that's why i am asking for a program to trick the device into believing its always the wall charger while its plugged into anything with that program running.
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There is no point in "tricking" the device to think it's the wall charger because what you want is the phone to charge up, not to beleive it's charged up when it's not. The usb port will not output more than 500mA. The phone will only charge as fast as 500mA will get you, no matter what tricks we try to pull on them.
daveli said:
There is no point in "tricking" the device to think it's the wall charger because what you want is the phone to charge up, not to beleive it's charged up when it's not. The usb port will not output more than 500mA. The phone will only charge as fast as 500mA will get you, no matter what tricks we try to pull on them.
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Actually, most USB 2.0 ports can unofficially support up to 1000mA (which is indeed out of spec), with the only limitation from the device itself which when in spec will not draw more than 500mA. This is why no2chem's Fastcharge worked on WinMo phones, by increasing the maximum limit on the device.
Rootwind said:
Actually, most USB 2.0 ports can unofficially support up to 1000mA (which is indeed out of spec), with the only limitation from the device itself which when in spec will not draw more than 500mA. This is why no2chem's Fastcharge worked on WinMo phones, by increasing the maximum limit on the device.
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Thanks for the clarification, It's good to learn something new every day
Rootwind said:
Actually, most USB 2.0 ports can unofficially support up to 1000mA (which is indeed out of spec), with the only limitation from the device itself which when in spec will not draw more than 500mA. This is why no2chem's Fastcharge worked on WinMo phones, by increasing the maximum limit on the device.
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Thank you so much for this post, i couldnt remember no2chem's nick to save my life. I wonder how he feels about dev in android.
daveli said:
There is no point in "tricking" the device to think it's the wall charger because what you want is the phone to charge up, not to beleive it's charged up when it's not. The usb port will not output more than 500mA. The phone will only charge as fast as 500mA will get you, no matter what tricks we try to pull on them.
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I don't know where you're coming from, but the phone will indeed pull more current when it detects it's on a wall charger. I specifically remember seeing it in the manual.
Has anybody heard anything new on this matter, I really hate not being able to charge at 1A from a computer USB anymore. 500mA is pretty much useless, especially in constant usage, it pretty much just maintains the current %.
from less than 10% to 100% in about 30 minutes when plugged into the wall...turn your phone off while charging!! itll charge so much faster!!
This was specifically about usb....
I seem to remember hearing you can tweak some usb wires (I guess remove the data pins) so the phone thinks it's on AC but I'd want to have connectivity as well as the swift charging. Otherwise I'd have to have two cords on me, though I wonder if the phone charges "AC speed" while off (since there's no mind to talk to the PC's OS)
Negrito said:
I remember on my WinMo phones there was a program to speed up the charging through a USB port. Anyone know of a similar app, hack, what have you for our Heros?
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yup, i remember that too, it was called fast charge.
iviyth0s said:
I seem to remember hearing you can tweak some usb wires (I guess remove the data pins) so the phone thinks it's on AC but I'd want to have connectivity as well as the swift charging. Otherwise I'd have to have two cords on me, though I wonder if the phone charges "AC speed" while off (since there's no mind to talk to the PC's OS)
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I know this does't work, as I have a cable with no data pins (it's a cheapy charge cable only) and it's still slow on a pc to charge.
Get a USB 3.0 port.
swears11 said:
Get a USB 3.0 port.
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ummm... you mean you would have to buy a whole new mobo with usb3.0 support.
I have a belkin travel power surge protector with 3 outlets and 2 usb ports on it. The phone, when plugged into it, doesn't detect that it is plugged into AC power and just charges at USB speeds. Anybody know why? Will it only charge at AC speed if it detects the HTC supplied Ac adapter?
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I know this does't work, as I have a cable with no data pins (it's a cheapy charge cable only) and it's still slow on a pc to charge.
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I have a cheapy cable too and that might be why it's still slow. I don't use the cable anymore because my TP used to charge at like 200mAh with it.
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Get a USB 3.0 port.
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But the problem here is with the software not hardware lol, all someone has to do is change the value of "when connected to computer: Charge 1A" instead of "when connected to computer: Charge 0.5A" (simplified of course)
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I have a belkin travel power surge protector with 3 outlets and 2 usb ports on it. The phone, when plugged into it, doesn't detect that it is plugged into AC poer and just charges at USB speeds. Anybody know why? Will it only charge at AC speed if it detects the HTC supplied Ac adapter?
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Because it was a stupid idea to ever limit the charge speed. lol
If only I knew how to program or to edit code, I'd so fix this for all of us >_<
I picked up this cable at bestbuy last weekend before a camping trip to use in with my usb charger in the car. I got outside and noticed that while using it it showed up as an ac charger. So far, every PC ive used it on recognizes it as an AC adapter and therefor charges at full power. I had seen an earlier thread about a way to accomplish this, and i know it isnt done via a hack, but if you have 20 bucks, you have a solution to the problem.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...p=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960
Just noticed this should prob be put under accessories, but it didn't feel like the right spot for it. Mods, if it belongs there, please move it.
Thanks,
replaced link as links with prices from bestbuy do not seem to work. The item is the usb cable./
Added pics of a standard usb plug charge and the one i mentioned. You can see the grey rocketfish cord shows up as AC
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wow, it doesn't work for me either, give me a sec and ill look it up another way. It is the Rocketfish usb charger with mini adapter.
There is no difference in charge time between computer usb and wall charger usb.
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linky no worky.
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Try it now, wouldn't let me copy pasta a link straight to the product. Click the link above, and its the second usb cable in the third row...can't miss it. Only downfall is its only 4 ft, but..
Bielinsk said:
There is no difference in charge time between computer usb and wall charger usb.
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well please disregaurd my post, i was under the impression a standard usb cable plugged into the pc pulled 500mw and while in the ac charger, 1000mw or 1W.
i thought there was a difference in time, because it seems to take all day to charge from pc. charges alot faster from the ac adapter.
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There is no difference in charge time between computer usb and wall charger usb.
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I hate to be the one to break this to you, but you're incorrect. First, a computer's USB port only has to put out 500 mA (that is the spec) - the HTC wall charger puts out 1 A (that's 1000 mA) (EDIT Thought I would add that these are both @ 5 V, so you have 2.5W or 5W of power...Power, current, and voltage are not interchangeable /BSEE lol). Second, the phone can tell when it is charging from the stock charger and when it is charging from a non-OEM 1000 mA charger or a 500 mA charger / USB port (it will say charging via AC or USB on the battery status page in the About Phone page of Settings).
So to the OP what you're saying is, this cable makes the phone think it's charging via it's AC charger? Have a picture? (not a screenshot, a picture of the phone screen showing AC while plugged into this charger).
TorxT3D said:
i thought there was a difference in time, because it seems to take all day to charge from pc. charges alot faster from the ac adapter.
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It does, i was just being sarcastic. The above mentioned cable will allow you to pull full draw from your usb port on your pc.
phobos512 said:
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but you're incorrect. First, a computer's USB port only has to put out 500 mA (that is the spec) - the HTC wall charger puts out 1 A (that's 1000 mA). Second, the phone can tell when it is charging from the stock charger and when it is charging from a non-OEM 1000 mA charger or a 500 mA charger / USB port (it will say charging via AC or USB on the battery status page in the About Phone page of Settings).
So to the OP what you're saying is, this cable makes the phone think it's charging via it's AC charger? Have a picture? (not a screenshot, a picture of the phone screen showing AC while plugged into this charger).
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Thanks for that, i try hard not to be a **** to people, but you handled it quite well. I will add a screenie to the front page shortly. I had made a custom cable myself and removed the two inner pins (data+ and -) to achieve this purpose. But keep in mind, when using this usb cable i posted, you can not sync to your pc-it will only charge-hence the fact my battery profile shows ac charger when using it. Give me a little to get to a camera to take a pic of the cable and a pic of the battery profile.
added pics to the first post
Computer USB can only output a certain amount of power, it isn't going to increase power with a cable.
I use Juice Plotter to see exactly what my battery life is, and how long it will take to charge. There is no difference in the charging time between USB and Plugged in.
Now on USB it will take longer because the screen is off and I am normally fustsing with it a lot, where when it is plugged in, I am not touching it at all and normally shut the screen off.
So even if a USB puts out 500mah and a wall charger puts 1000mah, I don't believe the phone has any type of switch to its micro USB to allow it to sense the mAh and adjust the charge. Else I would think your screen shots would show different numbers.
Bielinsk said:
Computer USB can only output a certain amount of power, it isn't going to increase power with a cable.
I use Juice Plotter to see exactly what my battery life is, and how long it will take to charge. There is no difference in the charging time between USB and Plugged in.
Now on USB it will take longer because the screen is off and I am normally fustsing with it a lot, where when it is plugged in, I am not touching it at all and normally shut the screen off.
So even if a USB puts out 500mah and a wall charger puts 1000mah, I don't believe the phone has any type of switch to its micro USB to allow it to sense the mAh and adjust the charge. Else I would think your screen shots would show different numbers.
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Every windows mobile phone ive ever used could be manipulated to allow the usb port to pull 1000mw. It is a hack and there is work on finding it in the android system. I am hoping this cable bypasses that and if i can find any program that shows charge current, i can know for sure. Android os uses parameters to decide how much current to pull as does windows mobile.
Bielinsk said:
There is no difference in charge time between computer usb and wall charger usb.
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Then why does my EVO take twice as long to charge when connected to my laptop, smart guy?
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Hey guys. Got an aftermarket charger after my original gave up on day one and i didnt want to have to send everything back. When i plug the phone in the scren becomes un responise, but the hardware buttons stil work. Can anyone explain this? obviously i ned to try a diferant charger, specificaly for the galaxy but how can the charger stop the screen working? Many thanks.
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Yes the same thing happened to me,,i took the charger back..and got a proper one
just for reference, the Black Berry 9600 chargers are compatible with SGS 9000
i bough one for car use
So are the moto chargers.
My car charger is an old razor v3 mini-usb with a mini-usb adapter.
My wall charger is an old Razor v9m charger.
Never tested a BB charger as i have always charged mine with the moto ones that were already plugged in
yup i also purchased a mini usb to micro usb adapter to use my old Moto chargers with my SGS
The same happened with me while using the stock charger in a train. The capacitive touch buttons and the screen stopped working, but the hardware buttons were working. So I plugged in my laptop and used a USB cable for charging it.
Never heard of this before....
I've not come across a charger that does not work.
The chatger works but the phone doesnt while its plugged in! my back button and menu button still work along with hardware buttons...... Weird... Allready ordered an official replacement
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jakers said:
The chatger works but the phone doesnt while its plugged in! my back button and menu button still work along with hardware buttons...... Weird... Allready ordered an official replacement
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That will be the cable that has issues.
Pity you couldn't have tried another cable.
I am using a nokia car charger, also works fine. Blackberry didn't work for me
Yeah i know the cable causes the issue but does anyone know how? obviously other after market chargers are ok... Phone charges fine too, just cant use it when charging...
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i'm using After market chargers too, but i have no problem
my car charger is using a BlackBerry 9500 charger (2A)
an in my PC i use a Motorola sync/charge USB mini + micro USB adapter to make it compatible with SGS 9000
they all work fine
i have not even unpacked my SGS usb cable that came in the box
Is any of this chargers really recognized as charger (charging with more than 500mA)?
You can easily verify this with the app "OSmonitor".
IF you see this: "USB Power: Online and at AC Power: Online" everything is working as it should. But if you see "AC power: Offline" your phone thinks the charger is a pc and it will only charge with 500mA.
TDO said:
Is any of this chargers really recognized as charger (charging with more than 500mA)?
You can easily verify this with the app "OSmonitor".
IF you see this: "USB Power: Online and at AC Power: Online" everything is working as it should. But if you see "AC power: Offline" your phone thinks the charger is a pc and it will only charge with 500mA.
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The only problem with software informers here though is for those that have the problem and the screen locks up whilst being charged the software is of little use.
This question was not for people having a faulty charger but for the ones claiming that they have a functioning charger!
If the charger is not really recognized as charger it is useless for navigation. As the Galaxy S need more than the 500mA while navigating (with GPS).
yeah, minimum you need a 1A (1000mAh) charger
that's why i prefer the 2A chargers, it gives just enough juice to actually charge the battery, and use GPS+3G+WiFi+Bluetooth
else the car charger will not even be enough to power all those, and it will still consume the battery power.
that's from experience from my HTC phones
TDO said:
This question was not for people having a faulty charger but for the ones claiming that they have a functioning charger!
If the charger is not really recognized as charger it is useless for navigation. As the Galaxy S need more than the 500mA while navigating (with GPS).
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I bought a Sharper Image Retractable USB kit that has adapters for most of the USB sockets out there. But the Micro USB that came with the kit fails to work with the SGS, the retractable USB cable is set up like an extension cable which works fine as an extension cable but putting on the adapters dont work.
Hi,
Is there anything I have to do for the GT 7.7 to charge while it's on? I´ve notice that it will only charge when it's off.
I've tested charging via usb and via outlet (2 different cables). I´m using the rom that came with it (as a matter of fact I haven't even rooted the tablet).
Any thoughts?
Which charger are you using? Seems you need to use a correct rated charger (ie the one that came with it) for it. Normal usb power hasn't got sufficient power.
You can trick it into using usb but you need an adapter from eBay
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I´m using the charger that came with it. I've tried charging connected to my laptop and I've tried connected to the outlet (at least this last one should work).
rawfa said:
I´m using the charger that came with it. I've tried charging connected to my laptop and I've tried connected to the outlet (at least this last one should work).
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Charging using usb port has not enough current (500mA only), unless your computer has a high current output usb port (1A - not many have).
The supplied charger is rated at 2A if I'm not mistaken, and take around 3 hrs to fully charge from empty, maybe more...
skycruzer said:
Charging using usb port has not enough current (500mA only), unless your computer has a high current output usb port (1A - not many have).
The supplied charger is rated at 2A if I'm not mistaken, and take around 3 hrs to fully charge from empty, maybe more...
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It DOES charge, but only when it´s turned off.
It will charge when off if you are using the USB cable
If you are using the cable that plugs into a powerpoint then it'll charge when ever.
rawfa said:
It DOES charge, but only when it´s turned off.
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Has Samsung Kies installed on that laptop your USB was plugging into?