OK, after the latest OTA I decided to jump in the pool and root my EVO. I did it using UNREVOKED.
I apologize for my rudimentary knowledge, but what do I do now? My goal was to get rid of the pre-installed programs, GENEROUSLY, placed on my phone by HTC and Sprint that I have NO intention of ever using (NASCAR app, NOVA game demo, Blockbuster App...etc. I don't wish to get rid of anything that could even remotely be considered necessary for the phone's function), if for no other reason than to keep my phone more "tidy".
Are there specific programs that will help me with this, or is this something I need to do on my own? I've noticed that I still don't have permission to uninstall things that came pre-installed or were subsequently given to me via OTA updates.
Thanks in advance for any and all input...
ok, i read the title, and i was going to give you a good -facepalm-, but it seems you had a reason for rooting. first, titianium backup is an insane tool that can uninstall ANYTHING and backup apps and their data. that is what you want.
second, root gives you an insane ability to change roms. a rom is the memory inside your phone. now with root and a custom recovery image, you can flash roms made by the insanely talented devs at the xda. may i reccomend myn's warm twopointtwo. you wont believe it is the same phone. like most other roms, myns has a bunch of tweaks already added, as well as almost all bloat apps removed.
if you need any other help, the evo irc is the best place to get it. just download an irc client app (on your computer) and browse it to irc.freenode.net in the room #htc-evo. everyone is helpful over there, including me (or so i like to think).
+1 for Titanium Backup. There is a free version but go ahead and go straight for the paid version, you'll use it often and be glad for the extra features.
Once you have it installed you can click on each app and "freeze" it (disables the app from running), "back it up" (just to be safe), and "remove" it (deletes it from the device).
There are other things you can do now that you are rooted, like install a custom ROM (e.g. specialized build of Android)... but I ended up just sticking with a stock ROM without the stock apps.
I would also recommend booting into recovery mode (power down, then hold the volume down and power buttons until you see the recovery screen) and using Nandroid to perform a full image of your phone. This way if you screw anything up you can just roll back to that image.
Long story short... rooting is whatever you make of it.
P.S. Don't apologize for the questions... I had the same questions you did. While the information exists here in XDA... it's not always easy to find.
both of you would be surprised on how great custom roms are. if i were you, i would try a few at the very least.
btw, the backup feature in titanium backup is for switching roms. it will backup all your apps and their data, and when you restore, add them back in and replace their market links.
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both of you would be surprised on how great custom roms are. if i were you, i would try a few at the very least.
btw, the backup feature in titanium backup is for switching roms. it will backup all your apps and their data, and when you restore, add them back in and replace their market links.
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I would tend to agree. Once you go to a non-stock rom, stock won't ever be able to do it for you again.
i would suggest you use the "sprint lover" rom to start... get your feet wet.
it is very close to stock... with some tweeks and extras...(like free wifi tethering)
one of the big ones... the bloatware on it are uninstallable like other apps you installed.
under appliction managment.. in the main settings.
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Hey folks, does anyone have a resource where I can learn about managing my EVO to increase it's network connection speeds?
I'm rooted w/ RA recovery and stock ROM.
I have not yet flashed a new ROM because I am really trying to get the best speeds out of this phone and I have been searching XDA forums for the information to no avail.
Your insights are always appreciated, thanks for being the best EVO community on the net!
GrnEydGuy said:
Hey folks, does anyone have a resource where I can learn about managing my EVO to increase it's network connection speeds?
I'm rooted w/ RA recovery and stock ROM.
I have not yet flashed a new ROM because I am really trying to get the best speeds out of this phone and I have been searching XDA forums for the information to no avail.
Your insights are always appreciated, thanks for being the best EVO community on the net!
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managing data connection not only requires hacking your phone and its radio partition, but it requires faking/hacking the network itself. this is dangerous and illegal. i would recommend ava's z1 rom. it has some nice data tweaks including auto roam and some other things. try myns.
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i would recommend ava's z1 rom. it has some nice data tweaks including auto roam and some other things. try myns.
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When you say auto roam, does that mean it is running on Verizon's network?
I've read about the hack to force evo to run on Verizon's network but was unsuccessful in trying it.
there is a hack to force evo onto verizon's network but that isnt what i'm talking about. if you are under 2 (i think) bars it will automatically roam to verizon's towers. or something like that.
dkdude36 said:
there is a hack to force evo onto verizon's network but that isnt what i'm talking about. if you are under 2 (i think) bars it will automatically roam to verizon's towers. or something like that.
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My office has a strange Sprint deadzone (right where my desk is of course) where I will dip to no bars. Occasionally it will jump over to Verizon (with a full 4 bars) and occasionally it will just sit there dead in the water with no connection.
There doesn't appear to be any pattern to when it roams and when it doesn't.
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My office has a strange Sprint deadzone (right where my desk is of course) where I will dip to no bars. Occasionally it will jump over to Verizon (with a full 4 bars) and occasionally it will just sit there dead in the water with no connection.
There doesn't appear to be any pattern to when it roams and when it doesn't.
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i would use ava z1 then. maybe theme it a bit. also try myns.
roaming on verizon...
there is that other shoe that might drop.
Roaming.. and data usage... there is a limit. I hear 250mb, then there might be additional charges.
high percentage of roaming over 90days.. they may cancel your contract and/or charge you for EFT. I hear it is 60% or more is where they start to look at your account.
yea i said it was dangerous. just saying the options. i didnt kno the details however.
Hboot 2.10 with unrevoked3 update
I just rooted my Evo 4g (Hboot 2.10) with the unrevoked3 update so I'm anxious to new ROMs but how do I know for sure when I will need to do any further flashing or downgrading of the kernel or PRI?
dkdude mentioned ava's and myn's ROMs are those good to go with my version? Right now I'm running MikFroYo and I like it but want to try different ROMs too.
New to rooting so I'm a lil nervous on this new investment of mine lol. Thanks for any advice guys.
yep ava is newest everything.
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With all the great new ROMs out there, I am trying to figure out the best way to go about backing up and restoring my apps and all of my settings.
I do Nandroid backups, and those work find as a "snapshot" of my Hero. But is there any easy way to back up and restore all of my apps or settings in one fell swoop, without affecting the installed ROM?
I'm trying to find the best way to move from one DamageControl ROM to another, for instance. My current procedure would be to back up the phone, wipe it, then flash the new ROM. From there, I would have to use AppMonster or something to restore my apps. The downside is that that would have to be done manually, and plus I would still be without all of my custom settings.
So is there any easier way to go about this? I have tried flashing a newer DC ROM on top of an older one without wiping, and this seems to work okay sometimes, except for I tend to have a lot of quirks with the new installation then -- force closes and things of that nature.
Anyway, I'm sure you guys have developed some pretty smart ways to go about switching from one ROM to another without having to manually set things up each time, and I'm just trying to find out what's most efficient.
Thanks for your time!
I use titanium backup, I believe it lets you backup personal data as well not a 100% but pretty sure.
I just wipe each time, and install whatever ROM is the flavor of the moment.
I have a couple of Nandroid backups on my computer though.
Thanks for the info. I might give Titanium Backup a try...
imekul said:
With all the great new ROMs out there, I am trying to figure out the best way to go about backing up and restoring my apps and all of my settings.
I do Nandroid backups, and those work find as a "snapshot" of my Hero. But is there any easy way to back up and restore all of my apps or settings in one fell swoop, without affecting the installed ROM?
I'm trying to find the best way to move from one DamageControl ROM to another, for instance. My current procedure would be to back up the phone, wipe it, then flash the new ROM. From there, I would have to use AppMonster or something to restore my apps. The downside is that that would have to be done manually, and plus I would still be without all of my custom settings.
So is there any easier way to go about this? I have tried flashing a newer DC ROM on top of an older one without wiping, and this seems to work okay sometimes, except for I tend to have a lot of quirks with the new installation then -- force closes and things of that nature.
Anyway, I'm sure you guys have developed some pretty smart ways to go about switching from one ROM to another without having to manually set things up each time, and I'm just trying to find out what's most efficient.
Thanks for your time!
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Mybackup works great for backing up contacts and some settings as well as your apps. You get 30 days free trial I think.
if your using Damage's latest, you may want to avoid Titanium as it seems to be breaking the audio....
Check out a program called Android Commander it backs up apps to your computer. I really like the ease of use, plus it makes editing the phone files easy. Check it out!
partition your SD card and get a rom with Apps2SD(A2SD). Than when you flash a new rom the app .apks will still be on your sd card data (unless you cleared ext3 partition in which you should mount your phone via usb and make a copy of the ext3 folder on your sdcard that you have from partitioning ur sd card via RA and have apps2sd running, now to the app that makes all this come together is this simple app i found on the market called "installer" download this one app from market and launch it, what this app does is scan's your sd card for every single .apk file and puts them in a nice neat list(with icons) than you can simple click on it and choose to install. this is a must have!
I'm using TitaniumBackup on fresh's newest and it works amazing for me.
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I'm using TitaniumBackup on fresh's newest and it works amazing for me.
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Have you tried it going from a 1.5 rom (Fresh 1.1 in this case) to a 2.1 ROM (Fresh 2.0d)?
I tried it on my wife's phone last night. After the restore sense was stuck in an FC loop and I had to wipe and start over. I ended up restoring her 1.5 nandroid so she would stop giving me evil looks and contemplating my death.
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Have you tried it going from a 1.5 rom (Fresh 1.1 in this case) to a 2.1 ROM (Fresh 2.0d)?
I tried it on my wife's phone last night. After the restore sense was stuck in an FC loop and I had to wipe and start over. I ended up restoring her 1.5 nandroid so she would stop giving me evil looks and contemplating my death.
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Nah I've been on 2.1 since the eris leak lol. But were you restoring everything? try doing apps first and see if that works, then one by one doing the data it might be something you can pin point and avoid.
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Nah I've been on 2.1 since the eris leak lol. But were you restoring everything? try doing apps first and see if that works, then one by one doing the data it might be something you can pin point and avoid.
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When I did my phone I had no issues...I was like you and was on 2.x from the Eris leak. My wife though doesn't like her phone to be 'tinkered with' (I wonder if that has anything to do with me cursing and screaming when I first bricked my phone with the RUU? But I digress), so she's coming from 1.5 (Fresh 1.1). In any event I tried what you suggest already...the apps install fine. It's when I restore the app settings (only the app settings, not system) that everything goes boom. She's got 120 apps. I'm not going through them one by one, so I'll probably just tell her she's got to live with a nuke and pave if she wants to upgrade. Since she'll likely have the same problem if/when the official Sprint release comes out, I doubt I'll have much trouble convincing her to let go of some of her crap.
My major issue is restoring her text messages at this point. I know that the 1.5 ROMs uses a different database format than the 2.x series. So I'm going to take a guess that I won't be able to save those.
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When I did my phone I had no issues...I was like you and was on 2.x from the Eris leak. My wife though doesn't like her phone to be 'tinkered with' (I wonder if that has anything to do with me cursing and screaming when I first bricked my phone with the RUU? But I digress), so she's coming from 1.5 (Fresh 1.1). In any event I tried what you suggest already...the apps install fine. It's when I restore the app settings (only the app settings, not system) that everything goes boom. She's got 120 apps. I'm not going through them one by one, so I'll probably just tell her she's got to live with a nuke and pave if she wants to upgrade. Since she'll likely have the same problem if/when the official Sprint release comes out, I doubt I'll have much trouble convincing her to let go of some of her crap.
My major issue is restoring her text messages at this point. I know that the 1.5 ROMs uses a different database format than the 2.x series. So I'm going to take a guess that I won't be able to save those.
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120 apps! Lol, but I might be able to help with the text messages thing, I just found on the market an app called SMS Backup. It actually backs up all your sms to your gmail account in thread form. Its pretty sweet and runs in the background each time you get a message it just uploads it to your gmail account silently. I had the same issue I was just getting sick of everytime I flashed I would loose all my messages at least now I have them backed up somewhere and better yet its in a place where I dont have to worry about running outta space. So overall it might be a better option I read alot of people saying they arent paying attention and a threaded sms reaches 2k+ then their phones start to lag and it wont delete them. Just an option, but its a pretty kick ass app you should check it out.
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120 apps! Lol, but I might be able to help with the text messages thing, I just found on the market an app called SMS Backup. It actually backs up all your sms to your gmail account in thread form. Its pretty sweet and runs in the background each time you get a message it just uploads it to your gmail account silently. I had the same issue I was just getting sick of everytime I flashed I would loose all my messages at least now I have them backed up somewhere and better yet its in a place where I dont have to worry about running outta space. So overall it might be a better option I read alot of people saying they arent paying attention and a threaded sms reaches 2k+ then their phones start to lag and it wont delete them. Just an option, but its a pretty kick ass app you should check it out.
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I'll take a look at it. But if I understand what it does, it will only get new stuff that comes in, and won't be able to be restored to the messaging database, right? If that's the case she won't go for it. She's 'purist' about her phone (she's great, and I love her to death, but a tech geek she isn't. She just wants it to work, work like it's stock, and not give her problems...a viewpoint I can understand, honestly ).
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I'll take a look at it. But if I understand what it does, it will only get new stuff that comes in, and won't be able to be restored to the messaging database, right? If that's the case she won't go for it. She's 'purist' about her phone (she's great, and I love her to death, but a tech geek she isn't. She just wants it to work, work like it's stock, and not give her problems...a viewpoint I can understand, honestly ).
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Lol, I understand. I haven't tried restoring to be honest but I think theres another one similar out there called sms backup and restore or something like that that dumps all the sms into an xml file and allows you to restore it again. Not sure I haven't used it, just read about it in passing and looked it up on the market. But thats always another option.
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Lol, I understand. I haven't tried restoring to be honest but I think theres another one similar out there called sms backup and restore or something like that that dumps all the sms into an xml file and allows you to restore it again. Not sure I haven't used it, just read about it in passing and looked it up on the market. But thats always another option.
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Sweet. I'll take a look. Thanks for the tips
Ok, so after using Energy ROMs since this phone came out everything worked pretty decently. Recently, I can not get weather in 3G. I read in another thread that T=Mobile is blocking it? Will there be any way around this?
I might go back to stock : (
I have always really hated this phone. I want a full Android solution but I just bought a car.
When using my HD2 I noticed when tethered to my laptop my OpenVPN software sometimes acts as if its blocked. There are other strange internet discrepancies as well so blocking is possible.
The weather on certain roms when using My Location doesnt work. If you add your location manually then I am betting it works. For example on Miri's Rom I noticed Burbank, CA cannot be detected whereas Palmdale, CA will be detected. If I add Burbank manually without using My Location then I get the data. Kwbr's Rom it detects burbank so I am not sure if there is weather databases missing from certain roms?
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Ok, so after using Energy ROMs since this phone came out everything worked pretty decently. Recently, I can not get weather in 3G. I read in another thread that T=Mobile is blocking it? Will there be any way around this?
I might go back to stock : (
I have always really hated this phone. I want a full Android solution but I just bought a car.
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Curious... your statement is that T-Mobile is blocking data... and you're hating on the HD2??
Data is Data.... if your statement that T-Mobile is blocking the data is true... then it wouldn't matter WHAT phone you were on... Android, WinMo, BB, ect... that data would be blocked...
The HD2 is a wonderful phone... is it perfect? by no means... but which phone is???
all that being said... I've been running the latest Energy ROM and have not had ANY issues with Weather updates... so a few questions:
what build are you running?
what radio?
have you tried a different build &/or Radio?
results?
it's pretty much a given that a stock build will be pretty stable VS a custom build... but the downside is that you lose the cutting edge stuff that is available in the customs. If a specific build/ROM is giving you issues... try a different one and see if the situation improves.
Also... make sure you are using Task29 before you flash... so you don't have residual bugs that could creep in from an old flash.
if you're issues are connection related, try a different radio... see if that solves your issue...
and welcome to the wonderful world of Customizing Electronics! regardless of WHAT you're customizing... there will be bugs... no platform/device is immune
All my info in my signatre is up to date and accurate. I can no longer get weather updates when I am in 3g or better. Its strange. I also cant update Facebook news feed unless I log out and log back in. I am by no means a developer but I have flashed dozens of ROMs and tested almost all Android builds on ths phone. I am very technically inclined and have donated to the Energy developer for his hard work. Every time I flash i do Task29, radio, ROM, then reset. I even tried factory reset this time becauseI never had to try that in the past. there is a legitimate issue and someone specifically did mention that TMO is now blocking certain data. maybe i took this wrong but i figured that they finally figured out how to block users with HSPL users from certain content.
oh btw ryan. when tjis phone came out, Hspl ROMS were way more stable then stock TMO stuff. this phone is just awful. its not the devs fault. its not the hardware. its microsoft. for instance, how many clicks or taps do i need to get 1 stinkin email? like 5! that is so annoying pardon spelling and grammar. im posting from the phone. and everytime i hit space i hit the on screen keyboard buttonand the keya dissappear grrrrrrrrrrrr
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All my info in my signatre is up to date and accurate. I can no longer get weather updates when I am in 3g or better. Its strange. I also cant update Facebook news feed unless I log out and log back in. I am by no means a developer but I have flashed dozens of ROMs and tested almost all Android builds on ths phone. I am very technically inclined and have donated to the Energy developer for his hard work. Every time I flash i do Task29, radio, ROM, then reset. I even tried factory reset this time becauseI never had to try that in the past. there is a legitimate issue and someone specifically did mention that TMO is now blocking certain data. maybe i took this wrong but i figured that they finally figured out how to block users with HSPL users from certain content.
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Well, like I said... I'm running the latest Energy build (Oct. 8 21681) which means I've got HSPL, and I'm running the recent radio (2.15.50.14) and I haven't had any issue what-so-ever with Data.
I HIGHLY DOUBT TMO is blocking based on HSPL. How could they tell based wireless traffic besides... the only things i've been reading regarding TMO blocking anything have been in regards to text messages.... there is a Data Throttling change coming soon... after 5GB your data connection will be slower till next billing cycle... but that is by no means a block.
As for the rest of your statement.... I only need 1 click for email... don't know WTF you're doing if you need 5 lol
I have NO issues with Microsoft... yes, WinMo6x is an old OS... but it is also the most customizable.... Look at all the UI mods available, all the different themes.... Android, iOS, BB none of those have that... Android is a great OS, but it has it querks too.
Not saying these things to talk you into keeping your phone... hell... I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that would be willing to take it off your hands for you ;p
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Well, like I said... I'm running the latest Energy build (Oct. 8 21681) which means I've got HSPL, and I'm running the recent radio (2.15.50.14) and I haven't had any issue what-so-ever with Data.
I HIGHLY DOUBT TMO is blocking based on HSPL. How could they tell based wireless traffic besides... the only things i've been reading regarding TMO blocking anything have been in regards to text messages.... there is a Data Throttling change coming soon... after 5GB your data connection will be slower till next billing cycle... but that is by no means a block.
As for the rest of your statement.... I only need 1 click for email... don't know WTF you're doing if you need 5 lol
I have NO issues with Microsoft... yes, WinMo6x is an old OS... but it is also the most customizable.... Look at all the UI mods available, all the different themes.... Android, iOS, BB none of those have that... Android is a great OS, but it has it querks too.
Not saying these things to talk you into keeping your phone... hell... I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that would be willing to take it off your hands for you ;p
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so wait...when you click on an email mssg you don have to tap "Get the rest of this message?" Than you have to wait for it to DL. Then if there are pictures, you have to tap to DL pics. Then you have to confirm that you want to DL pics. Then you have to tap to scroll to the right. AWEFUL!
I didnt notice the new radio that came out. I thought that we could only use radios that end in _2 in the USA with TMO?
We will see what happens with the latest updates. God I want a phone that works.
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I didnt notice the new radio that came out. I thought that we could only use radios that end in _2 in the USA with TMO?
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TMO radios have to be X.X.50.X
The first stickied thread here is regarding TMO radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669733
as for your email issues.... wonder if there are REG entry settings that could adjust it?... will do some digging
Found a thread on the Touch pro section regarding this....
The following settings make it to where, once you download an image the first time, on an email it will not require you to download it again.
Create the following DWORD keys,
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings
"BlockExternalContent" with a value of 0
"LoadExternalImages" with a value of 1
"AutomaticallyInlineImages" with a value of 1
still looking for some REG setting that will disable the option outright... but this is a step in the right direction.
I also found a setting in the REG for email trunation... if you want that
TMO does block certain ports and can keep certain programs from working correctly or at all, when tethered.
An example I have faced is using Yahoo Messenger on my laptop while tethered. Skype seems to work for me in this case when I need to use a messaging program with webcam functionality.
THank you for your help. I like the REG item you posted.
Hey guys,
I broought a desire z nam (Bell mobility branded) over the holidays. This is my first android device, so after a month of using it, I finally feel like I have my bearings for the platform (I'm coming from symbian). However, I have a few questions:
When I brought the phone, it came unlocked (I'm using it on AT&T's network in the US. Does this mean the phone has already been rooted? Is there an easy way I can check on this?
Since I am using the phone on at&t network, how will updates work for me? Is it possible for me to get any OTA updates? Or am I restricted to custom roms for updates? I am a little hesitant to use custom roms, as I need this phone to be reliable above all else, and I keep hearing about how unstable some of those roms can be.
What exactly is Cyberon Voice Commander? I always see it hogging a huge amount of memory in my running apps, and I'm wondering if its one of the base apps included with android. Searching around, it seems that it is used for speech to text, so if I remove it, will voice seach and voice actions no longer work?
Speaking of running apps, is it normal to have 50+ apps running at the same time? This phone boots with a ton of apps already running, and a lot of them seem like system processes. The phone does feel sluggish at time; however, this being my first and only android device, I don't really have a good reference to whether this is normal or not.
The touchscreen seems off. It always tends to register touches slighty above or below where my finger hits (super annoying when you're trying to select something on a list) is there any way to calibrate the screen?
On the subject of screens, is there a way to activate the screen other than pressing the power button? That button is a bit hard to reach for me, especially with 1 hhand operation
Htcsense.com doesn't seem to be working for me. It can't locate my phone, making the phone ring doesn't do anything, and I don't see the menu bar up top. Anyone know what's up with it?
And finally, I'm trying to find a good chinese handwriting input method; the phone comes with pinyin and wubihua input methods on the default htc keyboard, but no handwriting reconginition. The only app I found on the market for it is terrrible at picking up my strokes (HanWriting IME), can anyone recommend anything for it?
Thanks a bunch
I have the same device running on ATT as well.
The phone does not come 'rooted' even if it is an unlocked version. Root allows you to write to the 'OS Partition' on the phone memory in addition to other things. To check if you have root, you need to boot into the recovery mode of the phone. The first line in recovery will read either S-OFF (root obtained) or S-ON (no root). I suggest reading up on 'GFREE' and using that method to obtain root. Visionary is also an option, but doesn't appear to be as 'safe' as GFREE.
As far as I know, we are on our own for OTA updates. I have been using Custom ROMs on my device since about day 3 of owning it and it was the best decision I have made. I currently run CyanogenMod 6.1 and it runs great. Much better than stock. It is VERY stable and I haven't had any issues, everything is working. They are currently developing CyanogenMod 7 (Android 2.3) but it not officially released as stable version yet.
I am not familiar with that Voice Commander app. Check Google.
I don't have 50+ apps running but do have quite a few. Froyo 2.2 (shipped on phone with HTC Sense Skin) is designed to automatically shut down applications that are not being used so they do not eat up system resources. I didn't use stock for long, so I can't say how it performs but I have no lag issues with Cyanogen.
I do recall a 'calibration' option on Stock, but again I didn't use it for long and can't remember where it was.
In Cyanogen mod you can wake up the screen by pressing the track pad. Search in the Themes and Apps section of the Desire Z/G2 forum and there is an application you can install that does the same thing. I think its called Trackpad Wake.
Sorry never used HTCsense.com or any chinese writing apps. For the writing app, you can check the Android Themes/Applications thread from the main forum page. There are lots of other apps discussed there that are no in the Desire Z forum.
Welcome to Android!
Some good answer in the post above. Just to add some additional info:
The Vision Wiki describes how to verify root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
But your phone is likely not rooted. When you buy a phone unlocked, that usually means SIM unlocked, so you can use other SIM cards besides Bell. Cell phone dealers usually just have ways to get the SIM unlock codes for phones, same as the paid SIM unlock services you find on eBay and other places.
All ROMs have bugs, including the "official" ones. In my experience, the custom ROMs usually are more stable and less bugs than the official ones they are based on. In any case, I wouldn't worry too much about OTA updates. If you want to flash an official ROM, they get posted on here faster then you would get them OTA.
I just checked, and I have exactly 50 apps running on my Bell Desire Z (running on AT&T like you). I wouldn't worry about it. As mentioned in the previous reply, Android is designed to keep processes open in the background until the memory is needed, then it kills idle processes as needed.
I've never used a Symbian phone. But the Desire Z is one of the fastest Android phones currently on the market. It gets bogged down a bit by the Sense UI in some conditions (especially if you have lots of widgets loaded). But this is minor, and I have found the performance to be very good overall. If you want some more speed, you can root and overclock the CPU. Overclocking to 1 GHz does not even increase voltage to the CPU, so the effect on battery life and risk is minimal.
HTCSense.com is still a work in progress, unfortunately. The features not working is normal, its not just you.
Cyberon Voice Commander is bloatware pre-installed by Bell. Its supposed to allow you to command the phone (with your voice, obviously) without having to touch the screen to perform certain functions (call or find a contact, play a song, etc.). But its pretty useless, and pure crap, IMO. Even when it recognizes your command, it will often still require touch input to make the selection, which completely defeats the purpose! Its faster to just access the functions the normal way.
Bloatware is part of the ROM, and therefore not completely straightforward to remove. All methods require the phone be rooted, AFAIK. The following thread has a method (using Titanium Backup) to remove most of the bloat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831584
I've also found a paid app ($1.99) on the market called Absolute System Root Tool removes the bloatware successfully
As mentioned, there is a hack to make the trackpad button wake the phone. But I couldn't tell if the feature could be removed or turned off, so I haven't tried it yet, personally.
Aha, a fellow Symbian convert! Welcome to the greatest phone ever - like an N97 that doesn't suck. I used to run Symbian-Guru.com - please feel free to PM me with *any* questions, I still love to help folks.
I would *highly* suggest you root your phone, if for no other reason than to dump the bloatware that comes with it and be able to take screenshots and that sort of thing. You may also want to look at the Virtuous ROM - it's a port of the Desire Z ROM that has some extras built-in. I've been using it on my G2 pretty much since I got it and it's fan-freakin-tastic. I easily get 12-15hrs of battery life, and that's with normal usage. It also has trackpad wake built right in - it's awesome.
Most of your other questions were answered above. In any case, welcome to XDA, and to Android.
Thanks for the replies. I'm loving the phone so far; just there's a lot of quirks in android that I'm not used to. That's to be expected with any transition to a different os, so I'm sure ill adapt.
you mentioned offical roms are also posted there as well; will flashing those roms require S-OFF? I might be in the minority, but I actually like senseUI. The only thing I wish I could change would be replacing the customization button on the dock with a browser shortcut. I've tried adw and launcherpro, but everytime I end up missing the htc widgets and going back to sense.
Ill probably start looking into some custom roms. I'm really holding out for the offical 2.3 update though. Ill also have to find a way to revert to the original rom should I not like the new one. I can't seem to find a copy of the original rom from bell to download anywhere; so is titanium backup my only option? Finally if I flash in a new rom, (offical or custom) will I lose my carrier unlock?
Thanks
Before you flash any different ROM you should do what is called a "nandroid" backup of your current ROM via Clockwork Recovery/ROM Manager (which you can install once you have root and S-OFF).
No, flashing a different ROM will not lose your SIM unlock.
If you have SuperCID from gfree, then you will be able to flash different official ROMs, not just the Bell one.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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Please hit the "thanks" button on the responses that were helpful to you. So those of use that took the time to answer can increase their thanks meters!
You're not completely alone. I like Sense also! FYI, the Virtuous ROM recommended by orange bandit is a custom one built on the Sense UI. Although I'm probably going to wait until a Gingerbread Sense ROM myself.
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Thanks for the replies. I'm loving the phone so far; just there's a lot of quirks in android that I'm not used to. That's to be expected with any transition to a different os, so I'm sure ill adapt.
you mentioned offical roms are also posted there as well; will flashing those roms require S-OFF? I might be in the minority, but I actually like senseUI. The only thing I wish I could change would be replacing the customization button on the dock with a browser shortcut. I've tried adw and launcherpro, but everytime I end up missing the htc widgets and going back to sense.
Ill probably start looking into some custom roms. I'm really holding out for the offical 2.3 update though. Ill also have to find a way to revert to the original rom should I not like the new one. I can't seem to find a copy of the original rom from bell to download anywhere; so is titanium backup my only option? Finally if I flash in a new rom, (offical or custom) will I lose my carrier unlock?
Thanks
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The Virtuous ROM is basically the same as what you're running now, but fully rooted with some improvements here and there (trackpad wake, a bit of overclocking, etc).
There is a Rosie hack to be able to replace the right dock button with whatever you want, here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876464
I did it on my Virtuous ROM, works great, though I couldn't stand the simplicity of Sense and went back to LauncherPro, myself.
Hey, so this is my first post here and I'm looking forward to learning more about my phone and it's capabilities here. So far I've read through the forums multiple times and have seen a lot of different suggestions and information.
I've gotten a little confused, so I'm asking for some peoples' opinions on what route I should take to rooting my phone.
Basically, I have an HTC Evo running on android 2.2.
My baseband info is 2.15.00.11.19, and my software is 3.70.xxx.x
At the moment I just want to be able to root my phone so I can force roam and use the free wifi tethering.
I might run a custom rom if I need to, because I've heard that you can upgrade your radios, making 3g faster.
How should I go about rooting my phone and installing these roms if I choose to install them? I've read horror stories about people losing their rsa/wimax keys and being screwed for life. Do nandroid backups back these up as well, or would I need to do something special? The wimax/rsa keys are my main concern about rooting, because I would very much like to use 4G on my phone when I have the option to.
I've been recommended to try out one of the CM7 nightly builds by a friend and I know that it currently doesn't have 4G, at the moment, my area doesn't have 4G and I figure it by the time I get it, CM will have wimax support. If I did upgrade to a CM7 build though, would I be in danger of losing my RSA/wimax keys due to wimax not currently being supported by CM7, or are they kept in tact even though wimax isn't supported.
Thanks in advance for the help,
I'm kind of new here, so every bit helps
root with unrevoked, you will be fine.
use RA recovery to backup your wimax partition then save that in multiple places, dropbox, safes, every hard drive you own, email it to yourself etc, then you can use any recovery
cwm recovery backs up wimax now too but I'm biased to RA fwiw
cm7 nightlies have 4g now btw, upgrade to them when you feel like change, you dont need to change your rom if you dont want to
flashing a rom won't make you lose your keys, but keep the backup safe anyways
flashing is only hard the first few times then you get comfortable, dont become an addict like me, dont worry about ruining your phone, think happy thoughts
thanks for the advice. One question though, do nandroid backups keep wimax/rsa keys?
So instead of backing up the wimax/rsa individually, could I just do a nandroid backup and keep everything nice and safe as one big file?
If this is possible, is there a certain way that you have to do it?
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thanks for the advice. One question though, do nandroid backups keep wimax/rsa keys?
So instead of backing up the wimax/rsa individually, could I just do a nandroid backup and keep everything nice and safe as one big file?
If this is possible, is there a certain way that you have to do it?
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With Amon Ra you can choose what your backups include. Wimax is one of the options. Most people just back it up once and save a copy somewhere off the phone rather than choosing to back it up every time. Not sure about clockwork, never used it.
You already have the latest radios. You can't upgrade any further or get more speed out of them.
Here is another recommendation for using unevoked to un root. It works flawlessly.
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So I am a newbie to the HTC EVO and Android, but I have flashed WM ROM's on the HTC Touch Pro and even the HTC 6700 Brick. I've read all 184 pages of posts of xHausx [ROOT] ~~~ HTC EVO - Universal Auto Root ~~~ v2.3 (works with all version)(2/13/11), ok so I skimmed some of the log files, but I did watch the youtube video three times.
So I decided to notify that developer I was about to run his script and list the various hardware and software versions and thank him for all his work, but this site REQUIRES 10 posts (no matter how inane those 10 post might be) as long as you wait 5 minutes between posts. I understand that you want to cut down on repeat questions, but surely there must be a better way to check for a minimum level of competence. Perhaps a quiz, where certain answers are in the various FAQ's.
All the current policy does is to encourage posting (10 to be exact) regardless of the quality of the content, the very behavior it is designed to reduce!
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First and foremost thanks to wildstang for the how to for this mod. His original thread can be found here. He told me a long time ago I should do this on the Eris and I kept putting it off lol. I've made mods up for a handful of ROM's so far and will do more as I have the time or on a per request basis.
For starters here is a little about this mod:
1. What does this do?
This modifies the services.jar file located in system/framework, that allows you to have an un-throttled data access. You don't have to worry about modifying anything yourself.
2. Will this make my Data faster?
In some cases, YES. This has NO effect on actual phone signal. This only takes the throttle off, so you can download, or play games and not have to worry about it hitting a certain peak and lagging from that point on.
3. If I flash this, will it break my phone?
Sort-of. This will cause Force Closes when you try to select Mobile Network in Settings. Thats the only thing you should notice. You can still kill Data with a widget or any other sort-of alternative way you want to. This should not physically harm your phone though.
4. Will this work on any ROM?
Yes. This is not based off a particular ROM, and can be used with ANY HTC Droid Eris ROM. ALTHOUGH If you're Dev has made changes to the services.jar file, this could wipe those changes out. If you are unsure, ask your dev. In any case you may send me your services.jar and I will look at it for you.
Recommended Install procedures:
1. Place Rom on my SD Card along with DTR.
2. Reboot into Recovery.
3. Wipe everything that is supposed to be wiped.
4. Flash Rom.
5. REBOOT THE PHONE.
6. Skip setup and go straight to settings.
This part is important!!!
7. Go into Settings/Wireless & networks/Mobile Networks.
8. I set my data to always connected and data roaming on. Set yours to your preferences now.... keep in mind once you flash the DTR you will not be able to access this menu! Thats why its important to do it now!
9. Reboot into Recovery.
10. Flash the DTR and reboot the phone.
The key is to do all of this as quickly as possible. The reason why is because as soon as you boot your phone, your phone will start syncing. Its syncing your contacts and other stuff as well. Some of that other stuff also includes where you are on your usage of your data plan. If it detects that you are over limit it will then activate the throttle process. A little more on this. This DTR does not actually REMOVE the throttle per say. It simply removes the files that the phone system uses to BUILD the throttle. Without the needed throttle files the phone won't be able to set up the throttle which in turn means you will be running at full network data speed. Now do you see why this is important to do this quickly?
Now for the links.....
Official CM for Eris
GSB DeOdexed - Important note! This will not work on the odexed version of GSB!
Condemned CM7
Gin-Tazz CM7
Gin-Sen-Tazz
Evervolv
Tazz-AOSP
As always.. What you do with your phone is strictly on you and no one else. Always do a nand backup before flashing in case you have issues or want to undo what you've done.
so just to be clear, if I never approach my data limit and therefore do not my get data connection throttled by Verizon, this patch will not do anything to benefit my general 3g data speed, correct?
a.mcdear said:
so just to be clear, if I never approach my data limit and therefore do not my get data connection throttled by Verizon, this patch will not do anything to benefit my general 3g data speed, correct?
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I get a much better performance in my 3g speeds with this mod on my incredible. The ones that tested for me on the Eris said the same. Web pages loaded faster for them and streaming media was much better as well.
Sent using my 666th Inc from remote regions of hell
CondemnedSoul said:
First and foremost thanks to wildstang for the how to for this mod. His original thread can be found here. He told me a long time ago I should do this on the Eris and I kept putting it off lol. I've made mods up for a handful of ROM's so far and will do more as I have the time or on a per request basis.
For starters here is a little about this mod:
1. What does this do?
This modifies the services.jar file located in system/framework, that allows you to have an un-throttled data access. You don't have to worry about modifying anything yourself.
2. Will this make my Data faster?
In some cases, YES. This has NO effect on actual phone signal. This only takes the throttle off, so you can download, or play games and not have to worry about it hitting a certain peak and lagging from that point on.
3. If I flash this, will it break my phone?
Sort-of. This will cause Force Closes when you try to select Mobile Network in Settings. Thats the only thing you should notice. You can still kill Data with a widget or any other sort-of alternative way you want to. This should not physically harm your phone though.
4. Will this work on any ROM?
Yes. This is not based off a particular ROM, and can be used with ANY HTC Droid Eris ROM. ALTHOUGH If you're Dev has made changes to the services.jar file, this could wipe those changes out. If you are unsure, ask your dev. In any case you may send me your services.jar and I will look at it for you.
Recommended Install procedures:
1. Place Rom on my SD Card along with DTR.
2. Reboot into Recovery.
3. Wipe everything that is supposed to be wiped.
4. Flash Rom.
5. REBOOT THE PHONE.
6. Skip setup and go straight to settings.
This part is important!!!
7. Go into Settings/Wireless & networks/Mobile Networks.
8. I set my data to always connected and data roaming on. Set yours to your preferences now.... keep in mind once you flash the DTR you will not be able to access this menu! Thats why its important to do it now!
9. Reboot into Recovery.
10. Flash the DTR and reboot the phone.
The key is to do all of this as quickly as possible. The reason why is because as soon as you boot your phone, your phone will start syncing. Its syncing your contacts and other stuff as well. Some of that other stuff also includes where you are on your usage of your data plan. If it detects that you are over limit it will then activate the throttle process. A little more on this. This DTR does not actually REMOVE the throttle per say. It simply removes the files that the phone system uses to BUILD the throttle. Without the needed throttle files the phone won't be able to set up the throttle which in turn means you will be running at full network data speed. Now do you see why this is important to do this quickly?
Now for the links.....
Official CM for Eris
GSB DeOdexed - Important note! This will not work on the odexed version of GSB!
Condemned CM7
Gin-Tazz CM7
Gin-Sen-Tazz
Evervolv
Tazz-AOSP
As always.. What you do with your phone is strictly on you and no one else. Always do a nand backup before flashing in case you have issues or want to undo what you've done.
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CS,
Step 8b
keep in mind once you flash the DTR you will not be able to access this menu!
Can I backup and restore?
bigdaddyblues said:
CS,
Step 8b
keep in mind once you flash the DTR you will not be able to access this menu!
Can I backup and restore?
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Yes. You can always backup and restore with no problems.
Sent using my 666th Inc from remote regions of hell
This and zepp's 3g turbocharger
Do I need to stop turbocharger before I flash this? and is this any different than the turbocharger? I did not see much of a difference on the turbocharger, and should I clear cache before I flash?
macman159 said:
Do I need to stop turbocharger before I flash this? and is this any different than the turbocharger? I did not see much of a difference on the turbocharger, and should I clear cache before I flash?
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No you don't and no they aren't. Turbocharger for the most part is build prop tweaks to boost the data connection. This is a modification of the smali files within services.jar to remove the android internal data throttle.
Sent using my 666th Inc from remote regions of hell
Thanks, how do I download?
Sorry for my bad eyes. I wanted to know where the download is.
Woops. Nevermind. I did not click the links. FAIL. lol.
macman159 said:
Sorry for my bad eyes. I wanted to know where the download is.
Woops. Nevermind. I did not click the links. FAIL. lol.
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Lol. Just click the Rom you are using at the end of the op and remember..... Don't flash the gsb one if you're using the odex version.
Sent using my 666th Inc from remote regions of hell
Thanks for the head up
I am using your rom, so no worries lol. and when you said that it will break the mobile data. does it mean that if I turn off mobile data on a widget, I can't turn it off or does it mean I just can't get to the settings and do it there?
macman159 said:
I am using your rom, so no worries lol. and when you said that it will break the mobile data. does it mean that if I turn off mobile data on a widget, I can't turn it off or does it mean I just can't get to the settings and do it there?
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I use power control from the notification bar to toggle data just fine.. widgetsoid also works for this
español?
why are some apps in spanish? is it just my phone or did I accidentally clicked something? like when I click voice search it is in spanish. weird eh?
seems like it is only google voice search.
It did make a difference, but you said that we can't access the menu of the mobile network. I went and clicked in there and I did not see a crash. is it that I can't change anything?
macman159 said:
why are some apps in spanish? is it just my phone or did I accidentally clicked something? like when I click voice search it is in spanish. weird eh?
seems like it is only google voice search.
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Did you make sure English is the selected language under "Language and keyboard settings"?
It did make a difference, but you said that we can't access the menu of the mobile network. I went and clicked in there and I did not see a crash. is it that I can't change anything?
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huh, I'll be damned, you're right.. It doesn't FC or anything
I get a fc. On all 3 phones ....
Sent using my 666th Inc from remote regions of hell
we have special eris's lol.
little off topic
gonna try this now, hey CS just bought and incredible on eBay and looking forward to trying ur other roms. Hows the supraROM looking? I love "sense" but your others roms are just so darn fast and stable I will probably just load the incredible Condemned CM7.
Thanks again for all your hard work
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gonna try this now, hey CS just bought and incredible on eBay and looking forward to trying ur other roms. Hows the supraROM looking? I love "sense" but your others roms are just so darn fast and stable I will probably just load the incredible Condemned CM7.
Thanks again for all your hard work
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Supra kinda got put on hold for a little bit but I'm getting ready to start working on it again this weekend. Cm is running real smooth but has a bt issue I'm trying to straighten out. It's been a bug in the cm build for a couple of months now though. My personal favorite of my 3 roms for dinc is 666. It's based on the gb update and is every bit as smooth and fast as cm imo. Look forward to seeing you over there. You'll love the phone. It's sweet
Sent using my 666th Inc from remote regions of hell
I take it this would never work on the thunderbolt because of 4G LTE?
Deftoolfinch said:
I take it this would never work on the thunderbolt because of 4G LTE?
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I don't see why not... If you tell me what ROM you're using or send me your services.jar file I can make up a test one for you.
OP updated with new links... Getting much better reports on these this go around
I am doing much better. I used to get 100kbps and now with dtr and i guess 3g turbocharger by zepp. I get 900kbps-1mb!
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