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Hey guys, I'm new here but I have some (nooby) questions. I'm currently using an iphone to tether my laptop using web2go from t-mobile. I got a g1 from someone and of course rooted and started tinkering with it so that I could get web2go to work on the g1.
My question mainly is if I port over say another android based os, like the droid eris os that is available, does that change the way the phone interacts with t mobile? Or would t-mobile still recognize the internal imei and not care about the os and settings? I'm mainly asking if I can port over another os onto the g1 so I can tether like I currently do.
I know there will be the people who say just buy the more expensive plans, but if I could I would. I'm tethering with these phones because I can't afford real internet!
Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
Tmobile will recognize the IMEI although I have used the wireless and wifi tether's both and not had a problem on Tmo.
wait you use the 9.99 web2go? What settings do you use? Because whenever I try it has trouble "finding internet connection" or whatever. although technically the internet should still be coming through right? It's just being subverted by the g1's software that requires the higher tier services?
If its rooted, just use the wireless tether app. You can find the link here and put it on your SD card. Download Linda file manager from the market and use it to install the tether apk. From there, you will change your phones 3G or Edge signal into a wifi one that your laptop can use. You can use that on any rom, and it doesn't matter wether its droid eris or stock. The only thing that tmobile can see is your imei and your radio version, not the rom.
ok I will try this tomorrow and get back to you. Thanks for all the help
well I tried it real quick right now and I guess I forgot to make clear whats going on. When using the G1 as opposed to the iphone, the web2go subscription gets subverted. So while web2go works with a proxy on the iphone, on the G1 it does nothing.
I have the tools to tether except the G1 / T-mobile subvert the internet. I wanted to know if this was based on imei or on a software lock. Because I have heard of people using their G1's with web2go I'm assuming it's a software lock. So if I use a rom of an os that can run web2go, will I be able to use it? or will the imei lock it out?
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well I tried it real quick right now and I guess I forgot to make clear whats going on. When using the G1 as opposed to the iphone, the web2go subscription gets subverted. So while web2go works with a proxy on the iphone, on the G1 it does nothing.
I have the tools to tether except the G1 / T-mobile subvert the internet. I wanted to know if this was based on imei or on a software lock. Because I have heard of people using their G1's with web2go I'm assuming it's a software lock. So if I use a rom of an os that can run web2go, will I be able to use it? or will the imei lock it out?
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there's only really two different os versions. well, more, but two popular ones. 1.6 (donut) and 2.1 (eclair). does the g1 have a data plan? does it even have 3g? you say you just got it, so if you don't have 3g, there's nothing to tether. as for it not working - if you're rooted it will work. there's also a app on the market (for now) called easy tether. just use the free version.
edit: read top post more clearly - no. you can't tether if you don't have 3g. if you can, it's new to me.
one more edit: you can do what my friend did - take an old satellite dish, hardwire it to a router, and just connect a lot of wire clothes hangers to the satellite's receptor or.. er... thingy and steal wifi for like miles. ha ha.
The thing is web2go is a data plan that can access unlimited 3g through a proxy. T mobile wants users to use their strict g1 data plan, so any other data plans get shut off. I'm wondering if it's imei or software. If its a software lock then I can just install a different rom I'm guessing.
When I tether with the same data plan on my iphone i get edge speeds, the main reason i want to get the g1 working is so i can get the 3g speeds
Ok, then try this. Go to the tmobile.com website, sign in using your number and password (or create an account). When you get to the screen that shows you a picture of your phone, select the option right under the picture that says not my phone, then select any other 3G capable, non android device. That should put you in the clear for a few hours/days/weeks/months, or whenever they decide to check your account.
Ok I tried it but it still didn't work. I'm starting to think it might be the g1 software which is helping shut off the Internet. I'm going to install a new rom and hopefully I'll be able to set the settings for t mobile. Will keep u guys posted
i have been reading about this 30 dollars extra a month to share my 4g connection with laptop, computer and anything that uses wifi...but my questions is, will i have to pay the 30 to share my 3g connetion since boston will not have 4g until 4th quarter 2010??? i currently have a touch pro 2 stock sprint and run xdi wifi sharing on it and anything can pick it up. since the evo is android, will there be a program that i can run out the box to share my wifi? please elaborate as far as the internet sharing abilities of the phone...
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i have been reading about this 30 dollars extra a month to share my 4g connection with laptop, computer and anything that uses wifi...but my questions is, will i have to pay the 30 to share my 3g connetion since boston will not have 4g until 4th quarter 2010??? i currently have a touch pro 2 stock sprint and run xdi wifi sharing on it and anything can pick it up. since the evo is android, will there be a program that i can run out the box to share my wifi? please elaborate as far as the internet sharing abilities of the phone...
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PDANet, and once it is rooted you will have more options...free options.
I certainly wouldnt pay the 30 for wifi hotspot... you can get it for less using other software....but its up to you..ya know
Yeah there are a bunch of options once the Evo is rooted, which hopefully will come soon before most people have a chance at it (this is why i think Google gave them out at the developer conference). But the $30 a month is not worth it. wait then root it and have it for free.
i've played with it in google i/o and u can enable tethering even on 3g, now the wifi was so freaking congested there i didn't get the chance to try connecting to it, but chances are good that it works
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i've played with it in google i/o and u can enable tethering even on 3g, now the wifi was so freaking congested there i didn't get the chance to try connecting to it, but chances are good that it works
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wait,
you can enable tethering on 3g off the box? you mean my laptop can connect to the phone via wifi? without the $30 tethering plan?
mrjeancw said:
wait,
you can enable tethering on 3g off the box? you mean my laptop can connect to the phone via wifi? without the $30 tethering plan?
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Still need the $30 plan.
darn it...i guess i will just wait for the phone to be rooted to get a free wifi sharing program. at least the 3g will be unlimited to tether unlike 3g now where they only give you 5gb...(even tho it didnt matter on my touch pro 2 under xda wifi sharing) because it went in as internet usage! lol
I'm more hopeful that once the phone is rooted we will able to use the included wifi hotpsot program without paying the $30.mo. I betcha the hotpost program now sends out something at loin and only ESns with that permission can use it. Every Sprint Windows Mobile and Palm phone I've had in the past could be hacked so that the built in tethering app worked without the need to upgrade my account
isnt the wifi hotspot program the same as allowing other devices to connect to your phone via wifi? is so, when its rooter there will be a program allowing u to do this..unless sprint completely and uterly somehow with alien technology blocked it on teh phone.
isnt the wifi hotspot program the same as allowing other devices to connect to your phone via wifi? is so, when its rooter there will be a program allowing u to do this..unless sprint completely and uterly somehow with alien technology blocked it on teh phone.
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Yes there are other programs but from what I've seen the built in program is truly built into the software including an on/off widget.
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just wait til its rooted, and im sure it will be, then we can use wifi tether program that someone will create for it. oh and just to rub it in, I LIVE IN 4G CITY!!!!!
The best WiFi/BT tether/hotspot app out there has just added support for the EVO 4G about half an hour ago. Of course, root is required but it's just one click away with unrevoked.
Forget Sprint's $30 a month tether - this one is free and supported by the community.
This is why I love Android.
All info here: Rooted EVO 4G Users Can Now Enjoy Unlimited Free WiFi/Bluetooth Tether (Hotspot) As Android-wifi-tether App Adds Support For EVO
I was just about to post this, but you beat me to it. I'm rockin this right now. Works great!! Not in 4G coverage currently, but I assume that works the same. Thanks to whoever wrote this!!
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Very cool!
I was hoping not to root too quick and start that whole obsession again but...
Yes and y'all will be happy to hear it doesn't appear the evo gets nearly as hot as the hero when running it which is a bigggg plus to me no worries of frying my radio lol
sweet tyvm
SilverStone,
Was your device already rooted or did you use the "unrevoked" apk that was available? Many wrote no success with the "unrevoked" program.
Thanks!
I actually need USB tethering. Does this have it included or do I need another app?
Works great! If only I can figure out this battery issue.
It works like a champ. Wayyy better speeds on 4G.
Doesn't work on toast's rom
jigglywiggly said:
Doesn't work on toast's rom
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Must be why it won't start on my phone...
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Must be why it won't start on my phone...
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If it's a separate ROM, it might not work as it relies on a different WiFi driver (one for access point), which is located somewhere in the ROM. If toast's doesn't have it, then it won't work.
Perhaps toast can put the driver back to where it is on the stock ROM and update his ROM.
Yeah.. doesn't work. I've tried.
I can get it to install, SuperUser permissions from Unrevoked run and I allow it etc.. all is well in the "root" department however... It doesn't show upon any wireless radar anywhere.
At least it runs, was on toasts rom and had to wipe and start from scratch to get unrevoked back on. Wouldn't start on Toasts at all.
So anyway, this doesn't actually do any good if you can't see it to connect to it. :/
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Yeah.. doesn't work. I've tried.
I can get it to install, SuperUser permissions from Unrevoked run and I allow it etc.. all is well in the "root" department however... It doesn't show upon any wireless radar anywhere.
At least it runs, was on toasts rom and had to wipe and start from scratch to get unrevoked back on. Wouldn't start on Toasts at all.
So anyway, this doesn't actually do any good if you can't see it to connect to it. :/
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Can you try restarting? If that doesn't help, can you try the method in ticket comment #59?
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Can you try restarting? If that doesn't help, can you try the method in ticket comment #59?
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Restarting didn't work.
Tried method #59 and it went smoothly except I'm still not getting it to show up on HTC Hero. I can all the other networks just not my Evo's
I have pre14 installed.
Have wifi tether working fine on a laptop, however.. my samsung moment does not see the evo as an access point anyone test that hotspot actually works or can it only tether 1 device?
attempting this with 4g turned off(not avail in my area yet)
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Have wifi tether working fine on a laptop, however.. my samsung moment does not see the evo as an access point anyone test that hotspot actually works or can it only tether 1 device?
attempting this with 4g turned off(not avail in my area yet)
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Great question. I has assumed that wifi tether = sprint "hot spot" I did a quick test with two laptops and was not able to connect the second. Not a conclusive test, because it's late and I'm tired. I'll play more tomorrow and post back.
Mine is working on the stock rom (after the OTA) and with the unrevoked .apk installed.....
Like the temp display up there too....nice!!!
Galiot said:
Have wifi tether working fine on a laptop, however.. my samsung moment does not see the evo as an access point anyone test that hotspot actually works or can it only tether 1 device?
attempting this with 4g turned off(not avail in my area yet)
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Is your moment on 1.5?? I know Android doesn't like Peer-To-Peer connections.
moment is on 2.1, believe its because they dont support the ad-hoc setup.. sprints hotspot is actually turning on a router i believe
I'm getting lots of text of people with ota 2.2's trying to get hotspot, I keep telling them that they should be able to get free 3g hotspot but that theres no known root method for official ota 2.2 yet to unlock 4g wireless tethering. Is it true or am I giving them bad info?
i am not rooted and have no 3g wifi hotspot at all.
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i am not rooted and have no 3g wifi hotspot at all.
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hmm and your stock 2.2 or 2.1? Its working for me on cm6, in wireless & network settings, under tethering & portable hotspot I check the portable wi-fi hotspot and it turns on
You are giving them bad info
Sprint does not allow 3G Mobile Hotspot without the additional add-on SOC code for $29.99.
I do not get the OP. He asks us if us non-root ota 2.2 users get 3g wifi hotspot but when i post and say i dont he asks what version and ohh i get it and im running cm6.
Duh......You are rooted and have a different rom.
i know i will not get 3g wifi hotspot without sprints add on. my other account has it but my business one does not.
I got 3g hotspot for the first couple months, but I think they were offering it for free.
if you could get it for free on a non-rooted phone why would sprint be charging $30 a month? because you cant.
Before 2.2 I could get 4G mobile hotspot free. 3G did not work.
After 2.2 neither work.
This was expected.
Froyo's built in wifi hotspot works on Cyanogen rom. Used it to download a 600MB coldfusion server install the other day at work since they block executable downloads
Well if you have Cyanogen, you're rooted. If you're rooted, there's any number of ways of doing this.
I *think* the OP's question (reading between the lines) was something like, I heard 2.2 would have native hotspot capability, so is that true in the official Sprint OTA?
If that's what he's asking, the answer is No, as expected. Yes 2.2 has that, but of course Sprint turns it off in their ROM else they couldn't charge for it.
Lemme make this simple:
IT IS NOT FREE.
(For non-rooted, users of the official OTA)
If people are able to use it now, either Sprint's made an error (like they did with 4G tethering when the EVO first launched), or they're going to be hit with a $30 + tax increase on their bill next month.[/thread]
I was just using PDANet on my friend's laptop and I got two texts from T-Mobile saying the following: "Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com"
Now I ignored it until the browser sent me to a signup page. I've tried WiFi Tether, Bluetooth, and Barnacle and it blocks each one. Anyone else get this?
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using wireless tether right now... no problems...
maybe they'll end up sending me a text.
I don't have my laptop with me, so I can't test this myself. But if it's true, the Nexus One forums are about to A-SPLODE. You'll be able to hear it from space...
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I don't have my laptop with me, so I can't test this myself. But if it's true, the Nexus One forums are about to A-SPLODE. You'll be able to hear it from space...
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A-SPLODE!! Lmfao just made my day!
But yeah... if this is true then all I can do is throw the f-bomb around because I rely heavily on tethering and no way in hell am I going to pay for a service I've been using for free...
No problems with Wireless Tether on my G1...and I tether a ton. I was up to 7gb last month :/
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I was just using PDANet on my friend's laptop and I got two texts from T-Mobile saying the following: "Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com"
Now I ignored it until the browser sent me to a signup page. I've tried WiFi Tether, Bluetooth, and Barnacle and it blocks each one. Anyone else get this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840423
Not just you.
That would suck. Would this apply to USB tethering as well, or just WiFi?
PDANet IS usb tethering.
:O
oh... and someone at the Vibrant forums is having the same issue... which is why I'm here.
:X
I am tethering from my G2 (USB tether) to post this message. It works fine, though TMO might be rolling this block out.
Edit: I am posting this via Wifi tether, so that seems to be working for me currently.
I just checked PDANet and WiFi hotspot and they both worked, so I guess they're "rolling" this out.
Makes me wonder...some of us never got the OTA rollout. I wonder if perhaps I'll never get this rollout either.
I think they can affect PDANet and Easytether since they are market apps. Wireless Tether for Android and Wired Tether for Android aren't market apps so im pretty sure those are beyond T-Mobile's grip.
Might have something to do with the G2 not being rooted and trying to tether. I think after its rooted it should work without a problem. At least thats what a tmo rep told me.
When I read all this on the xda app, i went ahead and hooked up to wifi tether. thats how i'm writing this msg. I am rooted and do have the largest plan tmo offers which includes the unlimited data. idk. we shall see. oh yea, no tmo msg as of yet.
I'm unrooted and used wifi tether this morning for 3 hours with no problems. I just don't understand how they can detect us using it.
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I'm unrooted and used wifi tether this morning for 3 hours with no problems. I just don't understand how they can detect us using it.
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There are various techniques they could use to do this; if we know exactly what they're doing, we can probably bypass it.
Probably one of the simplest techniques would be user agent sniffing; if they see desktop user agents from the same device, they'd know something funky was going on.
I'd be interested to know whether the OP can work around this situation by changing his user agent string on his desktop browser. I'd also be interested to know whether the phone browser continues to work properly even after he's been caught, and if so, whether changing the user agent string on the phone causes it to report the block message as well.
Another test for whether they're sniffing user agents is to try to make an ssl connection instead of http from the desktop browser. Assuming that the phone browser still works, SSL on the desktop browser should also still work, if all they're doing is user agent sniffing.
In an HD2 thread one guy was saying that he was downloaded a movie to his phone, but wasn't tethering when he got the text. Perhaps they're determining by the amount of data used in a specific amount of time. If that's the case it supports the theory of TMO seeing all data as data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840360
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In an HD2 thread one guy was saying that he was downloaded a movie to his phone, but wasn't tethering when he got the text. Perhaps they're determining by the amount of data used in a specific amount of time. If that's the case it supports the theory of TMO seeing all data as data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840360
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That's actually good, then. If they're using such a naive detection method, it's sure to result in a ton of false positives from people legitimately using a lot of data with their phones, and consumer complaints should result in them disabling it before too long.
If this works like any of T-Mobile's other services then they prorate the add-ons so you can add it when you need it, then cancel it when you don't and you would only pay a fraction of that $15. I do this with the hotspot feature all the time - enable it for a trip when I'll spend a lot of time in a hotel (or airports, etc.) where they offer wireless and then cancel it at the end of the trip and I pay less than a single day of wifi at a major hotel.
(disclosure - I snatched this post off the T-mobile.com forum but I was going to say the same thing!)
I need to confirm this "add it when you need it". Not good for everybody but for those of us that need tethering a few times a month it's not so bad, 50 cents for one day. Tried via the chat on T-Mobile.com to confirm this but they are useless!
When I first applied the OTA and started playing with the built in tethering, I noticed some log entries from DataConnectionTracker whenever I turned tethering on or off. When I enabled temp root with Visionary and tried using the stand alone Wireless and Wired tether for root apps, these entries did not appear.
I haven't had time to play with it much, but it might be useful to run logcat with a filter for only DataConnectionTracker activity while trying a variety of tethering techniques under root and non-root circumstances.
Of course the experience reported by the HD2 user does not line up with this theory, but there may be multiple things going on. If T-Mo really is blocking based on data volume, it will completely blow up on them as people start intentionally doing data intensive things without tethering.
I sure as hell hope they don't do this to the grandfathered plans... cause if they do, I'm gonna go on a *****-storm.
Edit: I'm tethering on the WiFi hotspot app and I didn't get any notice. Everything is as it has been since I've had this app. If not, I have Wireless Tether for Root Users. I refuse to pay $15 extra bucks a month when I paid for an unlimited plan a couple of years back.