I'm getting lots of text of people with ota 2.2's trying to get hotspot, I keep telling them that they should be able to get free 3g hotspot but that theres no known root method for official ota 2.2 yet to unlock 4g wireless tethering. Is it true or am I giving them bad info?
i am not rooted and have no 3g wifi hotspot at all.
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i am not rooted and have no 3g wifi hotspot at all.
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hmm and your stock 2.2 or 2.1? Its working for me on cm6, in wireless & network settings, under tethering & portable hotspot I check the portable wi-fi hotspot and it turns on
You are giving them bad info
Sprint does not allow 3G Mobile Hotspot without the additional add-on SOC code for $29.99.
I do not get the OP. He asks us if us non-root ota 2.2 users get 3g wifi hotspot but when i post and say i dont he asks what version and ohh i get it and im running cm6.
Duh......You are rooted and have a different rom.
i know i will not get 3g wifi hotspot without sprints add on. my other account has it but my business one does not.
I got 3g hotspot for the first couple months, but I think they were offering it for free.
if you could get it for free on a non-rooted phone why would sprint be charging $30 a month? because you cant.
Before 2.2 I could get 4G mobile hotspot free. 3G did not work.
After 2.2 neither work.
This was expected.
Froyo's built in wifi hotspot works on Cyanogen rom. Used it to download a 600MB coldfusion server install the other day at work since they block executable downloads
Well if you have Cyanogen, you're rooted. If you're rooted, there's any number of ways of doing this.
I *think* the OP's question (reading between the lines) was something like, I heard 2.2 would have native hotspot capability, so is that true in the official Sprint OTA?
If that's what he's asking, the answer is No, as expected. Yes 2.2 has that, but of course Sprint turns it off in their ROM else they couldn't charge for it.
Lemme make this simple:
IT IS NOT FREE.
(For non-rooted, users of the official OTA)
If people are able to use it now, either Sprint's made an error (like they did with 4G tethering when the EVO first launched), or they're going to be hit with a $30 + tax increase on their bill next month.[/thread]
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i have been reading about this 30 dollars extra a month to share my 4g connection with laptop, computer and anything that uses wifi...but my questions is, will i have to pay the 30 to share my 3g connetion since boston will not have 4g until 4th quarter 2010??? i currently have a touch pro 2 stock sprint and run xdi wifi sharing on it and anything can pick it up. since the evo is android, will there be a program that i can run out the box to share my wifi? please elaborate as far as the internet sharing abilities of the phone...
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i have been reading about this 30 dollars extra a month to share my 4g connection with laptop, computer and anything that uses wifi...but my questions is, will i have to pay the 30 to share my 3g connetion since boston will not have 4g until 4th quarter 2010??? i currently have a touch pro 2 stock sprint and run xdi wifi sharing on it and anything can pick it up. since the evo is android, will there be a program that i can run out the box to share my wifi? please elaborate as far as the internet sharing abilities of the phone...
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PDANet, and once it is rooted you will have more options...free options.
I certainly wouldnt pay the 30 for wifi hotspot... you can get it for less using other software....but its up to you..ya know
Yeah there are a bunch of options once the Evo is rooted, which hopefully will come soon before most people have a chance at it (this is why i think Google gave them out at the developer conference). But the $30 a month is not worth it. wait then root it and have it for free.
i've played with it in google i/o and u can enable tethering even on 3g, now the wifi was so freaking congested there i didn't get the chance to try connecting to it, but chances are good that it works
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i've played with it in google i/o and u can enable tethering even on 3g, now the wifi was so freaking congested there i didn't get the chance to try connecting to it, but chances are good that it works
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wait,
you can enable tethering on 3g off the box? you mean my laptop can connect to the phone via wifi? without the $30 tethering plan?
mrjeancw said:
wait,
you can enable tethering on 3g off the box? you mean my laptop can connect to the phone via wifi? without the $30 tethering plan?
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Still need the $30 plan.
darn it...i guess i will just wait for the phone to be rooted to get a free wifi sharing program. at least the 3g will be unlimited to tether unlike 3g now where they only give you 5gb...(even tho it didnt matter on my touch pro 2 under xda wifi sharing) because it went in as internet usage! lol
I'm more hopeful that once the phone is rooted we will able to use the included wifi hotpsot program without paying the $30.mo. I betcha the hotpost program now sends out something at loin and only ESns with that permission can use it. Every Sprint Windows Mobile and Palm phone I've had in the past could be hacked so that the built in tethering app worked without the need to upgrade my account
isnt the wifi hotspot program the same as allowing other devices to connect to your phone via wifi? is so, when its rooter there will be a program allowing u to do this..unless sprint completely and uterly somehow with alien technology blocked it on teh phone.
isnt the wifi hotspot program the same as allowing other devices to connect to your phone via wifi? is so, when its rooter there will be a program allowing u to do this..unless sprint completely and uterly somehow with alien technology blocked it on teh phone.
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Yes there are other programs but from what I've seen the built in program is truly built into the software including an on/off widget.
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just wait til its rooted, and im sure it will be, then we can use wifi tether program that someone will create for it. oh and just to rub it in, I LIVE IN 4G CITY!!!!!
it appears the ota did more than just fix the sdcard issue, it also locks down the internet sharing/hotspot. i have a friend who has not applied the update and he can enable his hotspot but i cannot and i did apply the update...
still trying to find out more scenarios of this
The free 30 days of hotspot was for 4G only, it shouldn't work on 3G.
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The free 30 days of hotspot was for 4G only, it shouldn't work on 3G.
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This is false, as I was using the hotspot application in Minneapolis, which has no 4G.
Mine would only do 4g tethering even before I applied the update. When I tried 3g I got some kind of error.
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This is false, as I was using the hotspot application in Minneapolis, which has no 4G.
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That 4G part is what I read from Engadget quoting Sprint. Of course they also said that they wouldn't be able to bill hotstpot in the first month either so maybe Sprint decided to get to work.
Here is a very very simple solution I found.
1) Download the "unrevoked" root apk (it's like a service, you have to run it again after rebooting) from http://www.unrevoked.com
2) Download the latest wireless tethering apk from http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
3) Install the "unrevoked" root apk, start it up.
4) Install and start and configure the wireless tethering app as you normally would.
5) PARTY LIKE IT'S 1999!!
P.S. It works even after the OTA update and if you're 3G or 4G (but, better speeds on 4G)
Howdy everyone. I'm a long time HTC Hero user who upgraded to the Evo today. So far I love it. I'm paying for the extra $29.99 Sprint Hotspot service. I'm actually traveling now, and I've gotten to use it pretty heavily. Also, keep in mind that speeds I discuss below are on the 3G radio. There is no 4G available (yet) in New York. Also, I'm doing the speed tests on the 20th floor in a hotel room, which obviously affects coverage (if I'm on the ground the 3G in NYC is super fast, but up all these floors the reception is a different story).
First of all, I'm pretty sure when you start the Sprint Hotspot, you actually connect to different internet servers. When I first got the phone, they didn't activate the hotspot service on my phone (even though I ordered it with that), and when I started the hotspot it would have an internet connection error about some username and password. It was like "error 67" - and that number stands out to me becuase somehow that was a data error back in my WinMo days .
Anyways, I have a feeling the switching of the servers actually limits your bandwith somehow. If I do a Speedtest.net speed test (on the phone using the speedtest app), I'll get pretty decent (300k/s-500k/s) speeds before starting the hotspot, and then < 5k/s after activating it (aka no usable connection at all).
So I finally broke down, and rooted the phone (using the unrevoked method - I am running the OTA update). I installed Wireless Tether for Root Users Pre14 (which obviously does not change servers when you start it), and I'm noticing about 2x the speed and lower ping times with it.
I ran two tests on my laptop on speedtest.com. I've attached to this post the results of each. The higher numbers are with Wireless Tether.
I'm curious to see what you guys think could be the issue with the Sprint app. Are they limiting the tethering speed? Should I just drop the Sprint service and use Wireless Tether?
I really don't mind paying a little more to Sprint if their Hotspot app works well.
Hmm, I would verify they are on the same server. You might also try changing the server you run the speedtests to and see if that changes things. The only thing I could think of is the way it handles the connections because the Wifi tether is an adhoc connection.
Are you using WPA/2 with Sprint Hotspot?
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Are you using WPA/2 with Sprint Hotspot?
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No. I actually figured that this would increase overhead, so I shut off all encryption.
The thing is, when I turn on the Sprint Hotspot, the internet on the phone itself is really slow. I'm not even talking about what it is on a laptop or something.
I can see this being true. The only thing I want to know concerning the NotSpot and rooting tether is it legal or not. I am only going to use the HotSpot app one in a blue moon so I am not going to ay for it. I am just wondering if it is legal to use the rooted way.
It's not illegal people, it's not that serious.
its not illegal, but the question is what will they do with your plan when they find out... worst case i can see is add the $30 hotspot fee as we already have unlimited data plans
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Howdy everyone. I'm a long time HTC Hero user who upgraded to the Evo today. So far I love it. I'm paying for the extra $29.99 Sprint Hotspot service. I'm actually traveling now, and I've gotten to use it pretty heavily. Also, keep in mind that speeds I discuss below are on the 3G radio. There is no 4G available (yet) in New York. Also, I'm doing the speed tests on the 20th floor in a hotel room, which obviously affects coverage (if I'm on the ground the 3G in NYC is super fast, but up all these floors the reception is a different story).
First of all, I'm pretty sure when you start the Sprint Hotspot, you actually connect to different internet servers. When I first got the phone, they didn't activate the hotspot service on my phone (even though I ordered it with that), and when I started the hotspot it would have an internet connection error about some username and password. It was like "error 67" - and that number stands out to me becuase somehow that was a data error back in my WinMo days .
Anyways, I have a feeling the switching of the servers actually limits your bandwith somehow. If I do a Speedtest.net speed test (on the phone using the speedtest app), I'll get pretty decent (300k/s-500k/s) speeds before starting the hotspot, and then < 5k/s after activating it (aka no usable connection at all).
So I finally broke down, and rooted the phone (using the unrevoked method - I am running the OTA update). I installed Wireless Tether for Root Users Pre14 (which obviously does not change servers when you start it), and I'm noticing about 2x the speed and lower ping times with it.
I ran two tests on my laptop on speedtest.com. I've attached to this post the results of each. The higher numbers are with Wireless Tether.
I'm curious to see what you guys think could be the issue with the Sprint app. Are they limiting the tethering speed? Should I just drop the Sprint service and use Wireless Tether?
I really don't mind paying a little more to Sprint if their Hotspot app works well.
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hmm, you actually got your laptop to connect using unrevoked+ota+wifi tether for rooted phones from the market??? why is it that i cannot get my ipod touch to see my connection...ARGH!!! i hate this! i may just go back to winmo...this is my first android phone. had tp2 and wifi tether worked perfect for it.
I was just using PDANet on my friend's laptop and I got two texts from T-Mobile saying the following: "Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com"
Now I ignored it until the browser sent me to a signup page. I've tried WiFi Tether, Bluetooth, and Barnacle and it blocks each one. Anyone else get this?
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using wireless tether right now... no problems...
maybe they'll end up sending me a text.
I don't have my laptop with me, so I can't test this myself. But if it's true, the Nexus One forums are about to A-SPLODE. You'll be able to hear it from space...
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I don't have my laptop with me, so I can't test this myself. But if it's true, the Nexus One forums are about to A-SPLODE. You'll be able to hear it from space...
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A-SPLODE!! Lmfao just made my day!
But yeah... if this is true then all I can do is throw the f-bomb around because I rely heavily on tethering and no way in hell am I going to pay for a service I've been using for free...
No problems with Wireless Tether on my G1...and I tether a ton. I was up to 7gb last month :/
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I was just using PDANet on my friend's laptop and I got two texts from T-Mobile saying the following: "Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com"
Now I ignored it until the browser sent me to a signup page. I've tried WiFi Tether, Bluetooth, and Barnacle and it blocks each one. Anyone else get this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840423
Not just you.
That would suck. Would this apply to USB tethering as well, or just WiFi?
PDANet IS usb tethering.
:O
oh... and someone at the Vibrant forums is having the same issue... which is why I'm here.
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I am tethering from my G2 (USB tether) to post this message. It works fine, though TMO might be rolling this block out.
Edit: I am posting this via Wifi tether, so that seems to be working for me currently.
I just checked PDANet and WiFi hotspot and they both worked, so I guess they're "rolling" this out.
Makes me wonder...some of us never got the OTA rollout. I wonder if perhaps I'll never get this rollout either.
I think they can affect PDANet and Easytether since they are market apps. Wireless Tether for Android and Wired Tether for Android aren't market apps so im pretty sure those are beyond T-Mobile's grip.
Might have something to do with the G2 not being rooted and trying to tether. I think after its rooted it should work without a problem. At least thats what a tmo rep told me.
When I read all this on the xda app, i went ahead and hooked up to wifi tether. thats how i'm writing this msg. I am rooted and do have the largest plan tmo offers which includes the unlimited data. idk. we shall see. oh yea, no tmo msg as of yet.
I'm unrooted and used wifi tether this morning for 3 hours with no problems. I just don't understand how they can detect us using it.
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I'm unrooted and used wifi tether this morning for 3 hours with no problems. I just don't understand how they can detect us using it.
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There are various techniques they could use to do this; if we know exactly what they're doing, we can probably bypass it.
Probably one of the simplest techniques would be user agent sniffing; if they see desktop user agents from the same device, they'd know something funky was going on.
I'd be interested to know whether the OP can work around this situation by changing his user agent string on his desktop browser. I'd also be interested to know whether the phone browser continues to work properly even after he's been caught, and if so, whether changing the user agent string on the phone causes it to report the block message as well.
Another test for whether they're sniffing user agents is to try to make an ssl connection instead of http from the desktop browser. Assuming that the phone browser still works, SSL on the desktop browser should also still work, if all they're doing is user agent sniffing.
In an HD2 thread one guy was saying that he was downloaded a movie to his phone, but wasn't tethering when he got the text. Perhaps they're determining by the amount of data used in a specific amount of time. If that's the case it supports the theory of TMO seeing all data as data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840360
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In an HD2 thread one guy was saying that he was downloaded a movie to his phone, but wasn't tethering when he got the text. Perhaps they're determining by the amount of data used in a specific amount of time. If that's the case it supports the theory of TMO seeing all data as data.
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That's actually good, then. If they're using such a naive detection method, it's sure to result in a ton of false positives from people legitimately using a lot of data with their phones, and consumer complaints should result in them disabling it before too long.
If this works like any of T-Mobile's other services then they prorate the add-ons so you can add it when you need it, then cancel it when you don't and you would only pay a fraction of that $15. I do this with the hotspot feature all the time - enable it for a trip when I'll spend a lot of time in a hotel (or airports, etc.) where they offer wireless and then cancel it at the end of the trip and I pay less than a single day of wifi at a major hotel.
(disclosure - I snatched this post off the T-mobile.com forum but I was going to say the same thing!)
I need to confirm this "add it when you need it". Not good for everybody but for those of us that need tethering a few times a month it's not so bad, 50 cents for one day. Tried via the chat on T-Mobile.com to confirm this but they are useless!
When I first applied the OTA and started playing with the built in tethering, I noticed some log entries from DataConnectionTracker whenever I turned tethering on or off. When I enabled temp root with Visionary and tried using the stand alone Wireless and Wired tether for root apps, these entries did not appear.
I haven't had time to play with it much, but it might be useful to run logcat with a filter for only DataConnectionTracker activity while trying a variety of tethering techniques under root and non-root circumstances.
Of course the experience reported by the HD2 user does not line up with this theory, but there may be multiple things going on. If T-Mo really is blocking based on data volume, it will completely blow up on them as people start intentionally doing data intensive things without tethering.
I sure as hell hope they don't do this to the grandfathered plans... cause if they do, I'm gonna go on a *****-storm.
Edit: I'm tethering on the WiFi hotspot app and I didn't get any notice. Everything is as it has been since I've had this app. If not, I have Wireless Tether for Root Users. I refuse to pay $15 extra bucks a month when I paid for an unlimited plan a couple of years back.
My cell carrier Cricket Wireless recently merged with AIO wireless and switched from CDMA to GSM. I was given to March to get a new phone because my Galaxy S3 would not work on their network anymore since they switched to GSM.
Since they merged companies they also came out with all new wireless plans.. I was on the old plan which included tethering..
But I just got a OnePlus One since I needed to buy a GSM phone and had to switch to one of their new plans.. The thing is none of their new plans offer tethering, which is a huge step backwards if you ask me.. If they offered tethering still I would gladly pay for it but they just completely screwed us.. THe made us all buy new phones and gimped our plans and stripped tethering out of them.
My OnePlus One will let me tether since its Cyanogenmod even though my plan of course doesn't have tethering anymore . BUT I am concerned that my carrier will find out I am using my Data for tethering..
Like I said if they still offered tethering I would pay for the plan that would include it but they completely stripped it out of all the plans. I need tethering for work so I'm not happy about it.
I Can use Wifi or Bluetooth tethering and it works but Does anyone know how I can protect myself from my carrier finding out that my data is being used for tethering? I've heard of Foxfi but I can already tether I don't need an app to let me tether I just need something to hide the fact I am. I know it has an addon for wifi tethering using a Proxy is this the best way for me to go? Should I get Foxfi and use Wifi Tethering and the addons Proxy option?
Or is there another way?
Thanks.
you can try switching user agent , google it but it usually doesn't work anymore, carriers knew it too
you may create a vpn tunnel but to avoid detection you'll have to operate the vpn from your phone not your laptop so there would be no way they could tell between the two sources of data, all of your traffic must use the same tunnel.
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you can try switching user agent , google it but it usually doesn't work anymore, carriers knew it too
you may create a vpn tunnel but to avoid detection you'll have to operate the vpn from your phone not your laptop so there would be no way they could tell between the two sources of data, all of your traffic must use the same tunnel.
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So maybe installing something on my phone to connect to VPN Book or some other free VPN would suffice? and then tethering my laptop with blueooth. ? Thanks.
I have a Oneplus one on Cricket also, and tether with foxfi, been doing so for about a month with maybe 1-2gb of tethering usage. No problems at all here, got foxfi because I was on Sprint, and I needed it then for sure, as my phone was a sprint phone. Foxfi has an option to hide your tethering usage, and I do use that, but IDK what it actually does.