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I have just switched over to verizon from AT&T a couple of days ago. It was an impulse decision as I was only in the Verizon store with my girlfriend to get a her a new phone. I was showing the sales guy my pimped out Samsung Captivate and explaining to him him how easily these things can be manipulated and how much I loved my Cappy. Thats the last thing I remember. I woke up to find I had switched my service (3 lines) over to Verizon and I was now the owner of a Droid X.
I loved my Captivate and had no thoughts of ever switching but they had a promotion going on that blew my AT&T plan out of the water so financially it was a good decision. But I am beginning to wonder if I haven't made a mistake.
Out of the box, the DX is rebooting pretty often. I had planned on getting on here when I got home to find the latest and greatest ROM anyway so I didn't worry about it too much.
I am currently running Liberty 1.0 as my first flash. That is of course after flashing .340 which I read may or may not fix the rebooting issue. I am liking the ROM but the random reboots still persist. Its beginning to get too much to bare as I have yet to have one phone conversation that isn't interrupted by the phone powering down by itself.
I have searched for any word of a fix for this but I haven't found any definitive answers other than to do a factory reset. I have done that several times, as well as reflashing .340 and Liberty to no avail.
Before I take 3 phones back to Verizon and crawl back to AT&T and beg for forgiveness does anyone have a definitive solution for this?
Its worth mentioning that I bought my daughter a DX as well to replace her Cappy (she is NOT happy BTW), and it does the same thing. It is still stock out of the box.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
I have a Dx and haven't had this reboot issue, however, my sister traded in her iPhone for an x on my advice and now she's having the same issue you are. I was going to have her flash to liberty and do a system restore but obviously that hasn't worked for you. Hopefully someone will have an answer to this problem
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Send the phones back to Verizon, that is not normal.
In my opinion, not to say you don't know what you are doing which I am sure you are, I know you are well aware of the risks of flashing roms.
I hear more people having issues with Droid Xs that have been re-ROMed, flashed, themed, etc, then I do people with stock DXs that are rooted and cleaned up of bloat.
While my DX might not be clean out the box, it's still in prestine shape, rooted and even flashed to Cricket. I have never had a single issue with it unless I am bricking it or messing with it myself.
A lot of times, people mistake the phone as the issue. These were $600 phones when released, still are (give and take a few bucks lol). I doubt the issue is hardware. Send it back to VZW or try the Full SBF 320 using RSD Lite. It's been the talk of the town.
Could be that there's a bad batch of DXs going around that have just been released? None the less, VZW can get you replacement DXs over night practially.
Sbf to stock and reflash liberty. Or take it back a get a new phone.
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In my opinion, not to say you don't know what you are doing which I am sure you are, I know you are well aware of the risks of flashing roms.
I hear more people having issues with Droid Xs that have been re-ROMed, flashed, themed, etc, then I do people with stock DXs that are rooted and cleaned up of bloat.
While my DX might not be clean out the box, it's still in prestine shape, rooted and even flashed to Cricket. I have never had a single issue with it unless I am bricking it or messing with it myself.
A lot of times, people mistake the phone as the issue. These were $600 phones when released, still are (give and take a few bucks lol). I doubt the issue is hardware. Send it back to VZW or try the Full SBF 320 using RSD Lite. It's been the talk of the town.
Could be that there's a bad batch of DXs going around that have just been released? None the less, VZW can get you replacement DXs over night practially.
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Ben you are right about people messing up phones by flashing. But generally taking them back to stock will fix any issues that have risen from tinkering.
My issue is that mine did it out of the box. My daughters did as well.
Funny thing is just this morning I updated my daughters with the .340 update and it seems to have stopped. Its been quiet now for about the last 30 minutes. I reflashed .340 on mine at the same time and it has rebooted about 4 times while I type this message. Maybe my daughters is fixed, but mine is definitely not right.
Thanks for the comments.
My sisters phone is also doing this bone stock. It doesn't always reboot sometimes it locks up and she has to pull the battery. She's taken it into the Verizon store and they reset it to stock (not sure exactly what they did). That didn't fix it so she took it back to exchange it and they told her " that's normal, sometimes you have to pull the battery." So they wouldn't exchange it.
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Sadly this is has been a small issue with the DX, it's been posted many times. Mine did it when I first got it back in August and at first I was blaming Handcent on the reboots. Then for some reason it just stopped and I have never seen it reboot on it's own. Was it the update to 2.2 or removing Handcent? I've reinstall Handcent since so I honestly I don't know. Side note I still blame Handcent on the phones lag because when I uninstall it the screen redraws and the lag goes away.
Anyway there is a great big long thread on this at the Moto DX forums and Matt's (forum admin) advice was to return the phone for a new one. I would arm myself with a printed copy of the thread in case Verizon wants to throw a fit.
For the record I just dig this phone. I'm stock, rooted with just bloat frozen. It's been a great phone after the teething problems were solved.
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For those holding out on root & awaiting "Official 2.2 OTA", DON'T!! -> read w/in ->>
When I got my Evo, I wanted to wait for the official Sprint ROM/OTA upgrades because I wanted to keep my phone stock. I didn't want root to affect my phone's ability to OTA upgrade and get the latest and greatest from Sprint.
After many advice from others, I decided to root. This is where you will see the repeating theme - "I rooted and loaded a ROM and have never looked back", or "I rooted and upgraded the ROM from the dev section and have never been happier". I certainly agree.
The fact is, when (now IF) the official 2.2 comes out, you will get the EXACT OTA content here just as quickly (probably faster) and be able to flash to that if you wish. Most likely, at that time, you will want an enhanced version such as deodexed. It is not worth holding out on root just because you want the OTA.
With root, you are opening new options such as forcing the phone to roam only, make real/full backups, modify your phone both visually and functionally, and so much more. After root, battery life can certainly be improved by tweaking your phone (remove bloatware, keep unwanted services from starting, etc.)
When I got my Epic, I rooted immediately. I have been running DK28 since it dropped and enjoying what 2.2 has to offer. If/when the official comes out, I will upgrade. There is simply no risk of missing out.
So for you who are on the line, I encourge you to root and move forward. You will have a new world of options and enjoy your phone so much more.
Cheers.
It's true, and we're not that far from seeing a true Gingerbread port too.
Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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I agree with most of this. But from my point of view, I don't even use it for the control, I use it cause it works better. Oh, and the themes. I just hope the devs and themers stick around a while, cause I have this phone for another 20 months :/
new devs and themers will come along. the cdma touch pro 2 is approching 18 months in age and when i stop by that forum, its just as busy as ever, and i dont even recognize the names of roms people are talking about, because the chefs that were cooking when i was rocking that have moved along, but new ones are stepping up in their place.
Installed TrulyEpic 1.2 last night in just a few minutes. No problems at all. GPS is fantastic (I thought it was working before, but now - ) Is it just me, or does the stock ROM limit the display brightness? I think it actually LOOKS better but YMMV.
It's comforting to know that I now have a phone that will probably never be truly obsolete for the next couple years as long as there are ROM builders out there.
but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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I have been holding out but even my patience is tested...
It was tested even more today trying to find a way to root without a PC (as I don't own a PC... well I have one that runs Win2K and no internet at home... yeah.) I did download z4root but it never got past the first screen...it literally loaded for an 1hr the 1st time and 35mins the second before I got ticked and just uninstalled. I may be new to the android scene (long time winmob user that fled after testing a wp7 craptastic phone) but something just isn't right here X/ I mean really.... I simply want flash (outside of skyfire) and to wirelessly tether without having to pay ANOTHER $30 a month.... ...
So yeah, /rant
Ota can come ANY DAY NOW *looks angrily at the sky*
Epic is as Epic does
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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yea it was set to debug , its the original cable that came with it. i have not tried it on a diff pc, it could be a vista issue
Good point. But unless Samsung or sprint announce the update is out. Somebody has to be stock just incase they quietly release the update.
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yep. Im staying on stock for the simple fact that my phone aint broke why try and fix it lol.
I recently flashed DK28, then converted to ext4 and the bonsai mod. Froyo means I can view more webpages and download the froyo apps from the market place. ADW lancher was slow on 2.2, but lancher pro works fine. Also I wasn't getting great battery life but it's back to normal after I set my screen brightness to automatic. Overall I'm happy with my decision.
I too was one that didn't want to root and I was paying for the sprint hotspot :-\ but once I got the first bill for $130 I quickly youtube how to videos on rooting the epic and never looked back. 2.2 runs great with my only bug being, on some calls out I couldn't hear the other person unless I put it speaker phone. I worked my way around this bug by just hitting the speaker button before every call then quickly hit it again to shut off the speaker. It takes very little effort and I'm happier than ever with my epic and I don't give a rats ass about the OTA 2.2
The reason i first rooted was for wireless tether and to get rid of all the bloatware. After that i found all these awesome root apps like ADFREE and ShootME titatanium back up and many others and i can now not live with out adfree its the best app ever!!
After trying wireless tether it was ok then mobile ap came along and i love it. And for this reason alone im staying stock and honestly this is the first phone that does everything i need and doesnt give me any issues even on stock rom. I did get a custom kernal i flashed a good amount of the 2.1 roms and didnt really care for any of them besides noobnls rom. i mean i like custom roms that are blank of extra bloatware and what not.
But yes i agree dont wait to root, you get so many added benefits to make your phone run fast and get many free apps that are ad supported but because of ad free they are like the real one.
Best decision to root.
And for any reason i need to go back to stock to take the phone in i have all the stock flashables on my sd card so i just flash them and its easy as pie.
One click root never gave me any issues with the samsung cord or with any other cords i have.
I agree, I just got tired of it and rooted and installed a custom ROM (Trulyepic 1.2). It's definitely nice. It's also nice to feel free from the shenanigans of corporations trying to do as little as possible to make money off you while maintaining PR.
I admit, it's a bit scary to do with your phone. I'm lucky in that I've gotten familiar with rooting with my Viewsonic Gtablet, but I have to admit that I was pretty nervous the first time.
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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Hey dude, i haven't rooted my phone and I have the 2.2. rom on my computer... it was super easy to install. If you want the update without having to root, just pm me if you want it, and ill upload it and send u a link. with instructions.
I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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My GPS was actually fixed by going to FroYo...but I had some miscellaneous issues, so I flashed back to DI18 and am on SyndicateROM with the Xtreme Kernel. I have to get rid of setCPU soon...1.2 GHz overclock is killing my battery
I've had DK28 installed or over a month now and used various different roms, but about two weeks ago, data ( and consequently voice and messaging) all dropped and refused to work. I've heard of several other people having this problem as well, but am surprised that more people haven't experienced this. Once data drops, rebooting, reflashing, and re-odining all refuse to restore service reliably. My only solution I've found is to re-odin to DI18. It's quite a step back however, I'm curious if people have found ways around this or it only affects certain phones..
two words, truly epic
Never had what you are talking about. I was on bonsai rom and now I'm on a new test build rom and I don't have that problem. Try bonsai rom its awesome.
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Did you Odin to DI18 between each DK28 flash??? Just sayin, if you loaded DK28 once, and just switched roms, even wiping etc.... that could be a problem. Sorry if you did, but just checking, you didn't type out your whole process... if you do, someone may see the common denominator, etc.... 2.2 works fine for me, other than a couple minor bugs that have been traced to kernel issues... so hopefully source will fix them.
Actually, tried Bonsai rom too, but problem persisted. I'm pretty sure it's a modem issue. You can tell it's happening, because you can see that there will be a certain amount of signal (2 bars, 4 bars, 5 bars) but no data service (indicator is also missing). Calls fail to connect, messages fail to send, and of course, data is non-existent.
I've never had a problem with DK28 and I strongly suspect that if you have, it's due to a PEBCAK error.
It's not a PEBCAK error. It's been experienced and documented by several other users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922428&highlight=dk28+modem+zip
I've tried about a dozen different things, but the lowest common denominator is that I've wiped my phone and used odin to restore to the stock DK28 leak to no avail. A consensus seems to form that my phone may just be moody. I've already begun steps to exchange it, although I'm far past the 30 day window...
Have you tried flashing back to the stock modem and rom, then reflashing to DK28? Instead of just flashing the DK28 modem again.
Bye bye as this is a troll thread...
Its not a troll thread.
I'm going through this right now.
Unfortunately, I'm stuck with my no-phone for a few weeks as I have no computer here >:|
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I've been using google voice to text over wifi.
VoIP would be a great feature.
The longer I have the epic, the better T-mobile is looking
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I had similar glitches with DK28, but they were usually resolved by rebooting the phone or turning data off/on. The last straw for me was when my daughter tried contacting me for and emergency. She was unable to get a hold of me because my phone and data had literally stopped working without warning. After rebooting the phone, I had nearly 20 voice mail messages from her and others throughout the day. The next day I want back to 2.1.
Since, I have replaced the Epic with an EVO. The epic is still in my desk drawer waiting for the day Samsung gets their heads out of their asses and update it.
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I've had DK28 installed or over a month now and used various different roms, but about two weeks ago, data ( and consequently voice and messaging) all dropped and refused to work. I've heard of several other people having this problem as well, but am surprised that more people haven't experienced this. Once data drops, rebooting, reflashing, and re-odining all refuse to restore service reliably. My only solution I've found is to re-odin to DI18. It's quite a step back however, I'm curious if people have found ways around this or it only affects certain phones..
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TRY THIS IT RESETS EVERYTHING IT WORKED FOR ME EVEN GOT FASTER INTERNET CONNECTION WITH 3G-4G CUZ DK28 SLOW IT DOWN AS WELL AS GPS NOT WORKING NOW IM GOOOOOD.
xda-developers > Samsung Epic 4G > Epic 4G General
easiest way to fix gps using DK28
DK28 is fine
I'm a Vibrant owner who has been setting up my gf's Samsung Epic. Immediately rooted that beast and put TrulyEpic on it. That ROM was killing her battery life in less than half a day so I switched her to the Bansai ROM and it's the same deal. Is this standard for Epic users?
Leave your girls epic on stock di18.
Not worth putting dk28 on someones phone if they can't do it themselves. There's just too many bugs, no matter which froyo rom you run
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Leave your girls epic on stock di18.
Not worth putting dk28 on someones phone if they can't do it themselves. There's just too many bugs, no matter which froyo rom you run
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No ****? All right, thanks man.
People think that since this problem hasn't occurred for them it must not exist. It's obviously an issue for some of us. As for remedies, I've tried, cycling data, airplane mode. All no good. The funny part is it'll pop - and work for a few hours- then go back to being an expensive mp3 player. I've even odin-ed to DI18, problem still persists. Take the phone back, give sprint hell. And while you're giving them hell, ask them where the hell our Froyo update is.
Dk28 is very buggy. Load a custom rom over it like nebula, bonsai, or truly epic. They fix almost all of the bugs and they are faster than stock
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If this happens on DI18 as well, obviously its hardware... back to sprint... hopefully youre investing in TEP. If it is just DK28, try that GPS fix, may sound like not related, but it is just doing it the meticulous long way, which in the long run works great. I have never had a real data issue, but GPS I never got better than 10 meters or whatever, did that method, locked in 3 secs to 2 meters... crazy. I think not all the pit, modem, etc files are created equal... you may lose something in DL from some crappy free file hosting site, your flash may miss one little thing because the Samsung Drivers are crap... Theres so many variables. But the majority of people don't have any of these issues... so either you have software issues, and need to go back to stock, then it works fine... or if not, Do a tried and true method to get to DK28, and then see if it happens again. Data dropping could be so many things... location, how settings are tweaked... did you try the 'want better 4g signal' thread? It also links to a 3g fix that I think was also found to help on the EVO... just sayin... theres fixes out there, this is a totally unfinished build, what the devs have done with it is amazing.
That said, unless you want to be designated tech guy, keep her on stock. Unless she absolutely needs Flash, or wants to have 500 apps on her phone... she will probably not miss out on much, its power users and those who bought docks and HDMI cables that are really getting the shaft.
Does anyone know if the Sprint froyo upgrade via OTA will hit folks who upgraded in December to DK28?
If not, what should one do to get the OTA update? Or will there be a update.zip with a similar upgrade process used to get to DK28?
Thanks in advance.
Search around in the future, but the chances are slim. Just hold out until a rooted flashable update.zip is released on here (XDA). It will be a matter of a day or two, or maybe only hours considering how quickly it was up for DK28.
No, you will have to be on a 2.1 ROM (preferably DI18) to get the OTA
Sprints official policy is if you take a phone in with DK28 they will revert it to DI18..but you can do that yourself via Odin..
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Sprints official policy is if you take a phone in with DK28 they will revert it to DI18..but you can do that yourself via Odin..
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Do they void your warranty, or give you a ghetto pass on that one...?
"Sprints official policy is if you take a phone in with DK28 they will revert it to DI18..but you can do that yourself via Odin.."
is this at any sprint store? or what's the story on this?
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Do they void your warranty, or give you a ghetto pass on that one...?
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I remember reading a thread on SDX a few months ago posted by a member who worked for Sprint. Basically it stated that Sprint had no written policy about rooting or custom ROMs. I will search for it and post a link when I find it.
I dont think they would do a downgrade service, I think the policy is if for any reason, like something not working, they first Odin to DI18, then fix? But they supposedly voided warranties for that... i think theres a gray area... but dont just take it there to be reverted... Odin is easier than rooting.... just read.
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"Sprints official policy is if you take a phone in with DK28 they will revert it to DI18..but you can do that yourself via Odin.."
is this at any sprint store? or what's the story on this?
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Many Sprint stores don't have the capability to revert your phone. It probably has to be a repair store.
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Sprints official policy is if you take a phone in with DK28 they will revert it to DI18..but you can do that yourself via Odin..
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Can you verify this claim? I don't know Sprint's official policy on bringing a leaked os to them. Logic would suggest that your warranty is immediately void if you present them with a phone that is clearly rooted and flashed with a leaked os, asking them to hook you up with the official os. Personally, I wouldn't think for one second about bringing my phone to a Sprint store without flashing a stock os beforehand.
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I remember reading a thread on SDX a few months ago posted by a member who worked for Sprint. Basically it stated that Sprint had no written policy about rooting or custom ROMs. I will search for it and post a link when I find it.
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Basically what it said was if anyone brings their phone in for a repair and it is running dk28 was to repair it like normal but flash it to di18 before giving it back to the customer, and no it wouldn't affect warranty. But that was just pertaining to stock dk28, now if you are running a custom rom based off of dk 28 or di18 for that matter then I'm pretty sure it voids your warranty
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Basically what it said was if anyone brings their phone in for a repair and it is running dk28 was to repair it like normal but flash it to di18 before giving it back to the customer, and no it wouldn't affect warranty. But that was just pertaining to stock dk28, now if you are running a custom rom based off of dk 28 or di18 for that matter then I'm pretty sure it voids your warranty
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No, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that at the time of the post I read on SDX, Sprint had NO official policy on rooting and custom ROMs(according to the company memo in the post). So they can't flag your account or void your warranty.
cops arent supposed to pinprick your ID to signify a 'troublemaker', but they did for years. Just use Odin... read, read, read... and none of this will be relevant.
I have TEP, and on my first epic, it developed a line of pixels across the bottom side (in landscape) of magenta pixels... bright as hell. A tech told me it was cosmetic, and would cost 35 bux... nowhere in the policy does it say anything about ANY cost with TEP other than the insurance deductable, I said WTF, went to another store, they ordered me a replacement right away... Just because theres no clear policy, does not mean they cant be a **** and tell you to walk... so I wouldn't chance it. Plus, if a bunch of people with DK28 phones came in they would get sick of it real fast. It does make sense though if you did that update.zip, the original, that they kind of should give you a pass, as nothing is hacked, and it came from google, you could just say you read an article with a link to download it. XDA what? SDX who??? Still... just use Odin. If Sprint is being soft on policy about DK28, save it for those who have no other recourse... dont ruin it...
Besides, OTHER than the AMAZING sprint techs on here, a lot of those people are clowns, I would trust Odin over them any day. Especially as Epic for example, their jobs are becoming easier and easier... less real repair, more modular replacement... lowering the bar for the gig... Maybe if they told me their XDA screen name, I would trust em...
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I have TEP, and on my first epic, it developed a line of pixels across the bottom side (in landscape) of magenta pixels... bright as hell. A tech told me it was cosmetic, and would cost 35 bux... nowhere in the policy does it say anything about ANY cost with TEP other than the insurance deductable, I said WTF, went to another store, they ordered me a replacement right away... Just because theres no clear policy, does not mean they cant be a **** and tell you to walk... so I wouldn't chance it. Plus, if a bunch of people with DK28 phones came in they would get sick of it real fast. It does make sense though if you did that update.zip, the original, that they kind of should give you a pass, as nothing is hacked, and it came from google, you could just say you read an article with a link to download it. XDA what? SDX who??? Still... just use Odin. If Sprint is being soft on policy about DK28, save it for those who have no other recourse... dont ruin it...
Besides, OTHER than the AMAZING sprint techs on here, a lot of those people are clowns, I would trust Odin over them any day. Especially as Epic for example, their jobs are becoming easier and easier... less real repair, more modular replacement... lowering the bar for the gig... Maybe if they told me their XDA screen name, I would trust em...
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Only one problem with using Odin to revert to 2.1: every time I do it, the accelerometer gets thrown out of whack and does not auto-rotate. This is an easy fix, although only if you are rooted. So you would have to Odin to stock, root, fix the screen rotation problem, and then un-root to receive the OTA update? Probably easier to just wait for the zip.
Or maybe the DI18 .tar I am using is messed up??
OK, if you can deal w/o the autorotate for a little bit, do it then update, as the update will wipe any settings you will make anyways. Sounds a lot like you should just wait for the special update.zip on XDA, then go from there.... would be a lot easier if you have to have a functional autorotate between Sun 11:59 PM and Noon the next day... because id bet by then, you will either have the download and be on Froyo, or it will be up here... do whatever is easiest for you. Im only going to DI18 if as soon as it gets on here, it gets rooted, EXT4'd, etc... too much... as long as theres a stock, with root only, version, I would like to try it... Im not sure I need deodexing, is that just for the themes that go over roms, or if its baked in than can it be odexed??? Just seen conflicting opinions on what to do. I really love the R&D done on here, and my phone has EXT4, but I would like to TRY the OG before it gets modified... just to see how stable it really is.... will effect how I feel about the delay a lot I think... If they put out a near 100% solid ROM (GPS fixed as stated, accelerometers, BT, any other actual function...). Still want a free USB>HDMI cable... John??? Ill blame sprint for everything....?
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OK, if you can deal w/o the autorotate for a little bit, do it then update, as the update will wipe any settings you will make anyways. Sounds a lot like you should just wait for the special update.zip on XDA, then go from there.... would be a lot easier if you have to have a functional autorotate between Sun 11:59 PM and Noon the next day... because id bet by then, you will either have the download and be on Froyo, or it will be up here... do whatever is easiest for you.
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Good point. I have already reverted back to DI18 (as of last night) and rooted and fixed the rotate problem. I gotta say, dk28 was cool, but eclair absolutely flies on the epic...I forgot how fast it was (hoping and assuming the same will be true for eb13). I did this because I read somewhere that stock, rooted epics would be eligible for the OTA update, but now I'm not so sure. As you said, there is so much conflicting information out there!
But when all is said and done, I will probably just Odin again on Sunday night and wait and see what happens, both here and OTA. Waiting for devs to do their thing is probably the easiest, most pain free way of doing this.
yeah, as long as theres an untouched, well maybe just rooted version... as stated in another thread, may be a good idea to see what stock really looks like before the Devs break out the scalpels.
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Good point. I have already reverted back to DI18 (as of last night) and rooted and fixed the rotate problem. I gotta say, dk28 was cool, but eclair absolutely flies on the epic...I forgot how fast it was (hoping and assuming the same will be true for eb13). I did this because I read somewhere that stock, rooted epics would be eligible for the OTA update, but now I'm not so sure. As you said, there is so much conflicting information out there!
But when all is said and done, I will probably just Odin again on Sunday night and wait and see what happens, both here and OTA. Waiting for devs to do their thing is probably the easiest, most pain free way of doing this.
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Stock rooted dg27 epics received the di07 and di18 ota without a problem, but they lost root after the fact. Not really an issue though.
Sent from an Epic I haven't bricked yet.
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No, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that at the time of the post I read on SDX, Sprint had NO official policy on rooting and custom ROMs(according to the company memo in the post). So they can't flag your account or void your warranty.
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I can corroborate this.
I've taken my epic (running Bonsai) in to the Sprint repair store because the touch screen stopped responding accurately, they replaced the screen and gave me the phone back with all my data and ROM intact. Never even mentioned it...
Headache after headache after headache since I got the Froyo OTA.
Lots of freezes causing me to pull the battery several times a day. Also the battery power drains so quick I can't even come up with a comparison. Then don't get me started the 3G going down all the time...this is f***ing ridiculous. I did root it but I have seen no change. I have even disabled the bloatware...anyone have any suggestions for me.
Much thanks in advance,
Doc
You can try odining back to DL09 or whatever, re-update OTA, and see if the problem happens again...
If not, I would just leave it stock and return it to verizon with the 1 year warranty
Ive had the same issue! I rerooted and flashed evil fascination and I am not having hardly any problems. Ive had a few forcecloses but nothing like what came with stock froyo
My girlfriend is having the same issue after i MADE her update to the OTA 2.2. Text messages dont get sent and it is very laggy. The whole phone is too slow to use so i plan on flashing a custom rom or going back to 2.1 with odin. What roms are pretty similar to stock that maintain that whole touchwiz feel?
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Did you perform a factory reset? That seemed to fix a few problems.
For starters, this is common. The stock Froyo update screwed a lot of people up. Next, simply rooting it doesn't *FIX* anything, all it does is give you the ability to run Apps as Administrator, giving you more power/control. So, you rooted it, that wasn't going to fix your issues. Flash a custom ROM. I personally recommend the Community ROM. If after flashing a different ROM, after wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and user data, etc. you still encounter the same issues, then yes, I'd exchange it.
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For starters, this is common. The stock Froyo update screwed a lot of people up. Next, simply rooting it doesn't *FIX* anything, all it does is give you the ability to run Apps as Administrator, giving you more power/control. So, you rooted it, that wasn't going to fix your issues. Flash a custom ROM. I personally recommend the Community ROM. If after flashing a different ROM, after wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and user data, etc. you still encounter the same issues, then yes, I'd exchange it.
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Common? Really?
About the same time as the ota froyo was released, verizon had a bunch of 3g & 4g data issues on their network (perhaps it was shortly thereafter).
Otherwise, I see as many posts about the surprisingly good performance of the current stock rom as I see reports of issues.
No offence to the op, but we have no idea how these rooted phones have been messed with before the complaints are conveyed...
So I agree with the suggestion to odin back to a stock pit/modem/kernel/rom and let the ota process repeat from a clean start. From that result, flash a solid voodoo kernel, enable lag fix, pick your favorite rom, etc...
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I am currently running the ota 2.2 froyo update...only thing I have done is root and debloat and the phone is very fast! Only issue I have is google voice search force closes.
I think the update is fast... but despite what rom I use there is still intermittent gps issues, voice and data issues even on the first warranty replacement. Dropped calls in solids 4 bar territory on stock or dev roms and 3g fading un and out even after the dmu fix. All issues never had before the update.
Waiting on a call to see if I can get a better replacement option. No interest in Palm, BB or the Dinc Droid Pro or DX they want me to take as a replacement.
Out of the DInc2 Charge and TBolt which is the best options in my fellow forum friends minds. Have my own looking for outside opinions to consider depending on the options I am offered.
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My GF is having OTA 2.2 pains also...signal issues may be due to network, but also noticed lag, camera issues (black screen and force closure when camera opened)...text not received...probably will root and flash custom ROM...if she lets me..LOL....
4GivenByChrist said:
I think the update is fast... but despite what rom I use there is still intermittent gps issues, voice and data issues even on the first warranty replacement. Dropped calls in solids 4 bar territory on stock or dev roms and 3g fading un and out even after the dmu fix. All issues never had before the update.
Waiting on a call to see if I can get a better replacement option. No interest in Palm, BB or the Dinc Droid Pro or DX they want me to take as a replacement.
Out of the DInc2 Charge and TBolt which is the best options in my fellow forum friends minds. Have my own looking for outside opinions to consider depending on the options I am offered.
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Download the app "gps booster". Seem to fix my gps issue... locks in quick and within 10ft. As far as the signal issue, I had the same thing until I replaced the stock battery cover. have yet to drop any calls and my 3g is alot better now! I am absolutely impressed with this phone since doing these little "tweaks"! O and I vote droid charge if your dead set on a replacement! Seems to have better battery and display over the other two.
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My GF is having OTA 2.2 pains also...signal issues may be due to network, but also noticed lag, camera issues (black screen and force closure when camera opened)...text not received...probably will root and flash custom ROM...if she lets me..LOL....
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I heard that! My girl is hesitant to let me do anything to her phone after she saw the learning curve i went through with my captivate haha
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Common? Really?
About the same time as the ota froyo was released, verizon had a bunch of 3g & 4g data issues on their network (perhaps it was shortly thereafter).
Otherwise, I see as many posts about the surprisingly good performance of the current stock rom as I see reports of issues.
No offence to the op, but we have no idea how these rooted phones have been messed with before the complaints are conveyed...
So I agree with the suggestion to odin back to a stock pit/modem/kernel/rom and let the ota process repeat from a clean start. From that result, flash a solid voodoo kernel, enable lag fix, pick your favorite rom, etc...
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I stated nothing about the the OP's 3G outtage, any of us who are techy-like at all or who pay attention know what that was about. I was referring to their other issues. And I agree, MANY people have great performance after updating to stock 2.2, while many others are also getting screwed up. It's just one of those things. The OP wasn't one of the lucky, so, either Odin back and try the update again, or go custom ROM.
Well I have a couple DInc2s coming next week.
Really have to send the love to all the Devs who have made the Fascinate fascinating. Just can't wait on Sammy and VZW to get the tools in the hands of the devs to make the most of these phones.
Almost went TBolt but don't want to extend the contract until there are more 4g phones out there.
Wife is excited about FFC so happy wife will be good for me
Would have preferred to stick with the Fascinate but a couple replacements later and even the great roms and kernels couldn't get it to where it should be. Here's hoping that good source drips for everyone soon.
So for free and no contract extension I'll check out HTC...
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I did OTA Froyo update on a stock fascinate and my battery also began draining rapidly, about 8-10 hour life in standby I finally figured out that it was the built in facebook sync that was doing it, I had earlier turned off all syncing then noticed fb synced new events to my calendar after that so I completely removed my fb account and now its back to the ~2days of battery life with light use I had with 2.1. Not sure if this is what everyone else is experiencing with battery life problems but its worth a shot. I haven't tried putting my fb account back up to see if it happens again, I'm going to wait until I get around to rooting to do that.
I swear I had these issues with 3g data out completely. This fixed it in 3 minutes. ESN Swap to repartition data. No BS need for another phone.
http://totalhack.ws/esnswap.html
Hope this helps.
Well... Been using the DInc2 for over a day now... Short time but very evident that there is a major issue post update on the Fascinate. Right back to the great download and upload speeds I had pre ed01. No ATT like dropped calls, etc.
Without voodoo quadrant scores on stock in the 1400 - 1600 range consistently.
Just a huge thanks to all our awesome Fascinate developersfor making it a great phone while I had it.
Hope the DInc2 developers are as committed and talented as this team. Right now they are working on getting perma root....
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