Now that Nand is out for Android/HTC 2, I have a few questions. Right now my Android build running off sim card works perfectly so I'm debating Nand.
1. With the Nand bootloader, will we eventually be able to use it to run Windows Phone 7 if it gets ported. Basically I'm curious if by installing Android on the Nand if we are losing the ability to run other OSes
2. Can we ever go back to the stock HTC rom once we install android nand? I'm sure your wondering why in the world would I want to do that, but its a nice safeguard to always be able to go back to the rom you got the phone with.
3. What is the closest Nand build you think to the Froyostone Desire rom sim build?
Thanks
When you flash oryginal HTC rom with RUU you delete android nand all magldr...
So you can back to stock rom whenever you want...
Task29 removes Magldr and android so that you can flash any rom you wish
deckardbr09 said:
1. With the Nand bootloader, will we eventually be able to use it to run Windows Phone 7 if it gets ported. Basically I'm curious if by installing Android on the Nand if we are losing the ability to run other OSes
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Under my expirience with kaisers, NAND can be partitioned, and magdlr theoretically can make and load multiple partitions, cotulla mentioned it:
"Future developerment:
*planned to add Haret's startup.txt support for Android SD
*planned to add support of Android boot images (zImage + initrd.gz in raw file)
*fast boot support (?)
*support of fixed partitions layout with ability to reflash any partition
*WM65 NAND boot with any rom (?)
*WM65 NAND boot with special designed roms for MAGLDR boot.
*support of WPH NAND boot"
Thanks for your replies, I think I'm going to wait a few weeks as the roms get updated (I know I've seen alot of g sensor forum posts) I think its exciting we finally have this option and that we can still go back to stock if necessary.
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Hello.
Im loving my HTC HD2. I think its a great PPC, and im happy with its settings too.. I have some questions about Android that I hope you could help me with.
1. If im gonna try Android. I want to back up my WM6.5 with all settings etc. Is it possible to make a image of my current OS+settings+programs? And How do I "go back" to my WM6.5 if its a total failure?
2. How do Android on HTC HD2 work? Does it remove WM6.5 at all or run as "dualboot"?
3. I had TyTn2 before. Many had problems with HardSPL, bricking and such.. Is it a big chance that Android will do the same?
4. Any tips?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737397
1. Android for HD2 is at the moment only aviable for SD-Card boot. NAND - boot will come. So SD-Card means that it wont erase anything from you winmob rom. You need HSPL (means you loose warranty, but restoring is simple) to flash a radio > or = 2.08. The rest is very simple and not dangerous. So you wont need to backup the phones date. If you format your sd card you should backup the things on it as you know. Android works quite well. like a native android phone! try it!
A real dual boot doesnt exist but will come.
Do I erase anything with applying HSPL? Or do I just "patch" my curret radio?
First check your radio it needs to be 2.08.50 or above but ending in 50
if not you will need to flash see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
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Download your rom of choice
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I using the Froyostone sense build from here
http://gamesquare.co.uk/froyostone.htm
Extract Android folder to the root of your MicroSD card
Download and install jmz Android dual boot from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723200
Run jmz dual boot and select Android
I have no problems running this on a stock tmobile 1.72 rom with the radio upgraded to 02.08.50
Can someone post a detailed step by step guide on how to get a NAND android rom fully working on are hd2's?
1. download MAGLDR
2. download NAND Android ROM of choice.
3. Install MAGLDR on your HTC HD2 ( run ROMUpdateUtility.exe)
4. Boot HD2 and select in the menu "4. USB Flasher"(by scrolling down using the volume down key and selecting with the phone button)
5. Run ANDR_INSTALL.exe on your computer.
6. Wait while it does its thing.
7.Let it Reboot. enjoy.
And as I found out the hard way, you need HSPL 2.08 too !
Anyone know if it's possible to flash 2 Android builds to NAND? I installed the sense build by Cotulla. How would I go about trying the CM 6.1 w/o overwriting my current build?
Hi,
I read earlier that magldr would make it possible to boot WinMO from NAND and boot into Android from storage card. Tha's what I want (for now) since I'm still experimenting with Android and think I need WinMo to fallback when I ****up things.
Anyone already figured out how to do that?
TIA,
Cheers,
/Cacti
itsedstech said:
1. download MAGLDR
2. download NAND Android ROM of choice.
3. Install MAGLDR on your HTC HD2 ( run ROMUpdateUtility.exe)
4. Boot HD2 and select in the menu "4. USB Flasher"(by scrolling down using the volume down key and selecting with the phone button)
5. Run ANDR_INSTALL.exe on your computer.
6. Wait while it does its thing.
7.Let it Reboot. enjoy.
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Does the ROM have to be NAND enabled or what? The ROM I want to install isn't updated to NAND
FirefighterDown said:
Does the ROM have to be NAND enabled or what? The ROM I want to install isn't updated to NAND
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yeah im pretty sure cuz the files in the folder from a regular rom are diffrent then when you download a nand enabled rom.
FirefighterDown said:
Does the ROM have to be NAND enabled or what? The ROM I want to install isn't updated to NAND
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You do need a ROM which is for NAND....
The ROM's available thus far, are for running off the SD Card via Haret !
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yeah im pretty sure cuz the files in the folder from a regular rom are diffrent then when you download a nand enabled rom.
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The ROM's available thus far, are for running off the SD Card via Haret !
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I'm using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261 at the moment because I only get a 3-8ma drain using it as a Australian mate suggested it but gah, I'll switch if any NAND ROMs only have 3-8ma.
Should I use NAND Stock or Desire HD then? I wanna switch to NAND ASAP.
somone said that you need to have 2.08 hspl wich i have but waht about radio and windows mo requirements??
barreg13 said:
Can someone post a detailed step by step guide on how to get a NAND android rom fully working on are hd2's?
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I agree, a sticky by one of the more experienced members in the near future would be very helpful, especially emphasizing the proper preparations and prerequisites. Because of all the hype and down right excitement and enthusiasm with Nand based Android, there's a ton of questions, information overload, and threads way too long to go through. A definite need for a one stop covers all type of sticky imho. If someone would be so kind, it would be greatly appreciated.
Nand installation thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Unable to load American Android 2.3 on HTC HD2.
Downloaded the American Android 2.3 for TMOUS->Extracted Android folder to blank SD card /sdcard/Android->Opened up file manager on HTC HD2 /sdcard/Android and ran clrcad.exe got the untrusted popup clicked okay->Ran haret.exe got popup again clicked okay then saw a few white command lines (maybe 5) then the green HTC logo appears and sits there for ever. I let it sit for 30 min and no change had to pull the battery and restart windows. Phone is up to date only difference might be is it has been unlocked through T-Mobile. Does anyone know how to avoid this?
Ergh
I even tried HSPL3 and that didn't help... I just want the American Android 2.3 Gingerbread to load on my HTC HD2.. WTF!
Im having the same problem as well. I did the fat32 primary partition, on a clean sd card, ill wait for 30 minutes before i give up. some one please help, i got the desire hd rom running but would like to see what the gingerbread 2.3.3 is like.
Did you flash a new radio rom?
SO, you are going from WIn 6.5 to Android just by haret ? You cannot
If I was you I would start all over flashing HSPL 3, then flash Radio 2.15, then install Magldr 1.3, then copy the zip file to sd card and install. It's as easy as drinking a glass of water.
Be sure you chose SPL 2.08.HSPL and NOT SPL 2.80 when you flash HSPL 3
valv507 said:
SO, you are going from WIn 6.5 to Android just by haret ? You cannot
If I was you I would start all over flashing HSPL 3, then flash Radio 2.15, then install Magldr 1.3, then copy the zip file to sd card and install. It's as easy as drinking a glass of water.
Be sure you chose SPL 2.08.HSPL and NOT SPL 2.80 when you flash HSPL 3
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So I did all that and am now stuck on the MAGLDR screen and can't get it to do anything.
I tried running ROMUpdateUtility and it won't connect...
same problem need fiv
valv507 said:
SO, you are going from WIn 6.5 to Android just by haret ? You cannot
If I was you I would start all over flashing HSPL 3, then flash Radio 2.15, then install Magldr 1.3, then copy the zip file to sd card and install. It's as easy as drinking a glass of water.
Be sure you chose SPL 2.08.HSPL and NOT SPL 2.80 when you flash HSPL 3
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Ok first off what valv507 is mistakenly thinking you are trying to run Andriod from NAND. When you flashed MAGLDR you wiped your ROM from your HD2. This is why you can not get past MAGLDR it needs a ROM to boot.
You will have to reinstall your Windows Mobile ROM (hope you dide not loose too much data ) make sure it is a 3.14 ROM as they are the best for running Android from SD. Also make sure you have the 2.15.50.14 radio or atleast the 2.14.50.02 radio, the 2.15.50.14 radio is the best though. Also reformat your SD card again but use the Panisonic software to format it as most people say it is better than the Windows software. You can download it here. Make sure you do a full wipe and format using Fat 32. Then place all of your files and stuff from your back up back on your SD card including your Adroid build. then try to boot the Android again.
Put your HD2 into bootloader to reflash your Win Mo ROM. Hold down the volume down button while powering on your HD2 to get to bootloader and make sure you see USB in the white bar of bootloader before you flash the ROM.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ok first off what valv507 is mistakenly thinking you are trying to run Andriod from NAND. When you flashed MAGLDR you wiped your ROM from your HD2. This is why you can not get past MAGLDR it needs a ROM to boot.
You will have to reinstall your Windows Mobile ROM (hope you dide not loose too much data ) make sure it is a 3.14 ROM as they are the best for running Android from SD. Also make sure you have the 2.15.50.14 radio or atleast the 2.14.50.02 radio, the 2.15.50.14 radio is the best though. Also reformat your SD card again but use the Panisonic software to format it as most people say it is better than the Windows software. You can download it here. Make sure you do a full wipe and format using Fat 32. Then place all of your files and stuff from your back up back on your SD card including your Adroid build. then try to boot the Android again.
Put your HD2 into bootloader to reflash your Win Mo ROM. Hold down the volume down button while powering on your HD2 to get to bootloader and make sure you see USB in the white bar of bootloader before you flash the ROM.
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What if I just want to run Android from NAND? At this point I just want to flash Gingerbread 2.3 on there but want the best version of that with the fewest bugs. Do you have any links to such a ROM? How would I go about flashing it? Thank you for the help in advance.
If you do a YouTube search you cab find a "how to install " video for installing NAND Android GB 2.3.2 on the HD2, it also has links to ROMs, Radios and MAGLDR 1.13. I installed it in about 15 mins after d/ling the specified files and I have only had a HD2 for 3 days. Very good video. I would link you to it but I am at work right now and I have the page saved to face on my home PC
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sh1fty7 said:
What if I just want to run Android from NAND? At this point I just want to flash Gingerbread 2.3 on there but want the best version of that with the fewest bugs. Do you have any links to such a ROM? How would I go about flashing it? Thank you for the help in advance.
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If you want to go NAND Android just click on thr guide linked in my signature. I have links to two of the best guides on how to install NAND Android on your HD2 at the top of my guide. My guide is not a guide on how to install NAND Android but a guide to teach you what the things you need to install and run Android from NANN and WP7 are, what they do, and how to install them.
Also I use a non HTC Sense Gingerbread ROM and I really like it click the link for Hyperdroid in my signature if you want to check it out.
Thanks! let me learn this knowledge may.
ryu-lamp said:
Thanks! let me learn this knowledge may.
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What exactly are you asking here? Do youi want to know how to enter bootloader?
If so you just hold your volume down button down while powering on your HD2, this brings up the multicolor bootloader screen. From bootloader you can connect your HD2 to your computer wait for Serial to change to USB and then flash what ever you are wanting to flash radio, Windows Mobile ROM, splash screen, MAGLDR, and cLK. Click on my guide in my signature to get even more knowledge.
it is possilbe to have magldr installed running whatever NAND os you want.. and still boot ACA from sdcard.
the first post of the ACA thread has all the details you need to accomplish this.
sh1fty7 said:
What if I just want to run Android from NAND? At this point I just want to flash Gingerbread 2.3 on there but want the best version of that with the fewest bugs. Do you have any links to such a ROM? How would I go about flashing it? Thank you for the help in advance.
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to run it from nand you go to 10 services, than boot settings ,than select android sd ,than go to 10 again than select boot settings ad sd dir than select the android folder make sure there is not another folder named android, than go to ad sd nand and it will load. it tooked 15 minutes but he did say it would take long.
I took the same steps as the OP did and I'm experiencing the same problem. I am not planning to go through NAND and would like to stick with the SD build but it will not load. Any suggestions?
I'm using the latest American android build. Here is what I did:
1. Copy ENTIRE android folder to sd. If you want a faster boot time you need to copy over a new data image since one is not included in this build. It will create one on first boot, but this takes longer.
2. Once you've done this run clrcad then haret and allow it to boot. Mine took about 15 min total boot time to first lock screen without a data img. And about 7 to 10 min with.
3. Once you see the first screen DO NOT touch it. Let it settle for about 10 min. After that it should shut it self down.
4. Turn phone back on and boot android again. Letting it settle again for a few minutes. After 5 or 10 min of letting it settle pick it up and enjoy your sexy gingerbread.
Also, on a side not magldr is used for booting from wp7 to android. Haret is what is used for booting android from wm6.5
Hope this helped.
kushXmaster said:
I'm using the latest American android build. Here is what I did:
1. Copy ENTIRE android folder to sd. If you want a faster boot time you need to copy over a new data image since one is not included in this build. It will create one on first boot, but this takes longer.
2. Once you've done this run clrcad then haret and allow it to boot. Mine took about 15 min total boot time to first lock screen without a data img. And about 7 to 10 min with.
3. Once you see the first screen DO NOT touch it. Let it settle for about 10 min. After that it should shut it self down.
4. Turn phone back on and boot android again. Letting it settle again for a few minutes. After 5 or 10 min of letting it settle pick it up and enjoy your sexy gingerbread.
Also, on a side not magldr is used for booting from wp7 to android. Haret is what is used for booting android from wm6.5
Hope this helped.
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Ok, So maybe you can help me here... Im trying to get this Latest American Android 2.3.4 and my phone is totally stock right now.. I used to have froyo 2.2 but I Hard reset my phone and formatted my SD card, So the phone is totally fac setting right now. So can you please explain step by step on what to do now and how to get that 2.3.4. Do I have to install any sort of rom or something?
btw here's the thread where I found the build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
Please reply quick because I am dying without Angry Birds lol!
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I have to post 10 post before I can post to another thread. 1
Can someone clarify this for me or provide a link where I can read up on this topic?
I currently have a dual-boot system with MAGLDR bootloader, WP7 on NAND and several Android ROMs running from SD. Now, if you look at the MAGLDR menu, the first 3 options are:
1. Boot WHP
2. Boot AD SD
3. Boot AD NAND
Options 1 and 2 are clear enough. However, the fact that there's an option to boot Android from NAND (option 3) makes me think you could have both WP7 and Android on NAND. Is this true? And if it isn't and you can have only one, why not just have a Boot NAND option to have whichever OS is there boot up?
ADDITIONAL QUESTION on the first post of page 2. Thank you.
Maybe it boots in a specific way for wp7 and android. Also there is not enough space on nand for both.
Razor1973 said:
Can someone clarify this for me or provide a link where I can read up on this topic?
I currently have a dual-boot system with MAGLDR bootloader, WP7 on NAND and several Android ROMs running from SD. Now, if you look at the MAGLDR menu, the first 3 options are:
1. Boot WHP
2. Boot AD SD
3. Boot AD NAND
Options 1 and 2 are clear enough. However, the fact that there's an option to boot Android from NAND (option 3) makes me think you could have both WP7 and Android on NAND. Is this true? And if it isn't and you can have only one, why not just have a Boot NAND option to have whichever OS is there boot up?
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Because you can set MAGLDR to not autoboot an OS, but to load at the MAGLDR screen. So if you had Android on the nand and selected boot whp, you wouldn't get anywhere, hence the boot ad nand option.
This belongs in Q & A anyhow.
Ah, so the answer is NO, you cannot have both OS's on NAND. Thanks.
Which sd build do you use? I fancy trying the dual boot, as I keep getting bored. Bit fed up of these builds being released everyday with next to nothing improved from the day before.
elgrego4 said:
Which sd build do you use? I fancy trying the dual boot, as I keep getting bored. Bit fed up of these builds being released everyday with next to nothing improved from the day before.
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LOL Right now, I have these:
[JUN 8] AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 GB234 CM71|bkup2sdext234 [KERNEL:AmCanAndroid r608]
[14.May][SD\MGRLD] BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA_DESIRE HD GLASS V2 & GINGER 2.3.4_V9
[8/June/'11]-[ Update]-[SD/MAG]-[JaguarMIUI-V7]-[K:ACAr521]-[WWE+RTL]
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Ah, so the answer is NO, you cannot have both OS's on NAND. Thanks.
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no,you cant,on NAND you can have only one ROM or wp or android,that option is "ON" when you have android on nand
This is a question topic and common sense dictates that this should be posted in the Q&A forum. This forum is for developers and developments only, not for people to post question topics and clutter the place.
It's directly related to NAND development, but I absolutely no problem with a mod moving it... Especially now that it's been answered.
Need assistance please
Sorry, i missplaced this question, redirecting it to QA thread
I have another question related to this and, instead of starting a brand new thread, I figured I'd resurrect this thread of mine from a week ago in order to avoid clutter.
So I now know I cannot have both WP7 and Android on NAND. How about having an Android ROM on NAND and one or more Android ROM's on SD? I currently have several Android ROM's on SD and WP7 on NAND, but wonder if I can still have a dual- (tri-, quad-, ...) boot system even if it's all Android, one ROM on NAND and the rest on SD.
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No answer. This is exactly why I posted this in the development section first. This is more of a NAND/SD development question than it is Q&A.
Yes you can have all Android all the time if that's what tickles your pickle. Same process as dual booting WP7 (minus the stupid SD card formatting WP7 does). I'm assuming you'll still have to partition your SD card for each build, only this time all of them will be fat32.
Hey guys,
I am a quite unfamiliar with all these builds and all that but a long time ago, I could install Android 2.2.1 and WP7 on my HD2. Now after a few months, I forget how I did all that, and I would like to have the latest version of Android and WP7 on my HD2. The problem is, that I even forgot abt that Magldr and HSPL-things.
Can I easily upgrade both systems or do I need to flash it back to 6.5 and install everything from new again?
Is there a guide maybe, where I can have a look at? because I did not find anything.
Thank you very much
HSPL will stick as long as you DONT revert to a stock rom.
i would download the HTC Toolkit for HD2 ... that will be an all-in-one for doing a, TASK 29 and reinstalling magLDR all from one place.
i would do a task 29 because it will wipe your nand that way you won't run into problems with a new version of WP7 (no conflicts with old framework etc)
if your not to worried about thoroughness and just want new NOW.
just boot up magLDR by holding down power during boot. after mag menu comes up choose USB flasher (optioin 5 i believe) and then running the DAF.exe of the new WP7 rom (8107 is newest)
after place Android on SD and boot
the new WP7 roms no longer lock the SD so you won't have to worry about the headackes that used to cause. but BEWARE most of the new WP7 roms are using a new touch driver that causes random reboots (all driver related ... has nothing to do with the SD card class like the previous versions)
and as always good luck!