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Ok everyone,
There's been alot of movement both forward and laterally on the vogue-android project lately, and while it's all been great I'm having some concerns.
There has been alot of forking lately of the project. Different builds are great and I can't encourage that enough, but with all of the changes, and great developments being made to the rootfs and kernel we are losing alot of what made this project going great.
There's such a jumble of builds, out there right now it's getting confusing for everyone. So please guys can we move the project back to centralization?
By that I mean build threads are for system images only.
Changes to the rootfs's and kernel's are fantastic, but please can we make a new thread just for those?
As well to all the kaiser guys. Don't get me wrong I think it's great that so many of these files are working so good for you guys but can you keep development of your port to your forum, so there's less confusion for the new people? I've said it lots, if any of the kaiser guys wanna port over the builds I've ported to kaiser's go ahead, but please post them in the kaiser forum.
I'll happily keep the google code page updated with new bundles, that have been tested and confirmed stable, that page is not for specific people's work only, but for vogue/kaiser files that can be considered the standard files to use.

I support this.

well put. i feel the exact same way. i've given up till a bundle comes out cause im confused what is the newest or if it will work(not a fan of the kaiser now that they took over). I'm really hoping for more development on the android rom but im a script kiddie and no developer.. unfortunately
thanks for bringing this up

I could not agree more!
I've actually returned to running WinMo on my phone because I've become so lost in the Android project. There's so many different forks out there, and all sorts of random files being uploaded to Google Code, I have absolutely no idea what is what anymore.
It was going really well when vilord and dzo were working on it, now suddenly it seems both of them are out of it and the "vanilla" Android 1.5 builds are no longer being worked on. There hasn't been a basic "system" update in nearly a month now.
And to make matters worse, there's no clear explanation of what's what anywhere and nobody is posting proper change logs. So all these new files keep popping up with no word on what they're for and what's changed.
I just want to run Android on my phone, with no stupid skins, UI replacements or massive customizations of any kind... and I don't know how to do that anymore.
I'm not really sure why all this work seems to be focused on customizations right now anyways, when there are much more important things to work on like Bluetooth, aGPS, and a flashable ROM.

Yes, this is most definitively needed, not to stifle anyone's creativity, but to allow the maximum number of people to enjoy the project. Otherwise it's far too possible that all the various ports will just turn people off to Android, and it's far too important to allow that to happen. I've already asked mssmison to post whole, relatively stable packages so people don't get overwhelmed with all the various components and builds. Maybe a re-fresh of the packages every 2 or 3 weeks, along with the testing packages for all you brave souls to make it more user friendly.

I'm going to re-organize the google code page for vogue tonight so it should be more clear for everyone. vilord isn't out of the project, he just is moving

I've cleaned up the google code page a bit, I've depreciated some older downloads and the older bundle.

I keep all my builds separate and off the vogue-android page too keep it clean and focused on the main bundle there which is android-1.5-x. The test rootfs.imgs that I put out are only for testing purposes and are my personal experiments related to hero and they stay on vogue-hero. They do not apply to non hero builds and I try to state that in the threads I started for my other two non hero builds. I'm not supporting squashfs right now and I'm not going to be posting builds in squashfs right now. If people think that squashfs is the way to go then all images need to be in squashfs including android-1.5x builds. That would avoid the main squashfs rootfs/kernel/initrd fork thats going on with people downloading the squashfs base files. I don't support kaiser wifi builds of my hero images because they don't work for the vogue. I'll be taking down all kaiser/squashfs related files on vogue-hero until further notice and create vogue bundles of the files that work with each build.

i agree about too many different builds and files mixed together, it's really confusing to an average user like me who's sorta new to android. you devs should package up a zip with all the most stable, needed files for you specific builds so we can't mess up and download something that might not work right. myself i use my phone daily and for work, so i need stability.

mssmison said:
Ok everyone,
There's been alot of movement both forward and laterally on the vogue-android project lately, and while it's all been great I'm having some concerns.
There has been alot of forking lately of the project. Different builds are great and I can't encourage that enough, but with all of the changes, and great developments being made to the rootfs and kernel we are losing alot of what made this project going great.
There's such a jumble of builds, out there right now it's getting confusing for everyone. So please guys can we move the project back to centralization?
By that I mean build threads are for system images only.
Changes to the rootfs's and kernel's are fantastic, but please can we make a new thread just for those?
As well to all the kaiser guys. Don't get me wrong I think it's great that so many of these files are working so good for you guys but can you keep development of your port to your forum, so there's less confusion for the new people? I've said it lots, if any of the kaiser guys wanna port over the builds I've ported to kaiser's go ahead, but please post them in the kaiser forum.
I'll happily keep the google code page updated with new bundles, that have been tested and confirmed stable, that page is not for specific people's work only, but for vogue/kaiser files that can be considered the standard files to use.
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+1 to this! It's getting cluttered and confusing... BUT AWESOME!

stickus said:
+1 to this! It's getting cluttered and confusing... BUT AWESOME!
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is it looking better now on the google code page?

whatever is in that new base files package really sped up my build from zen, ill tell you that much, now my phone recieves calls too. the only thing i notice is im back to the old style button map settings for adjusting volume and waking up the phone and such?

things look a lot cleaner on the google code page now... just DL-ing the new bundle you posted and we'll see how things go from there. Glad to hear that that old button layout is back, not really a fan of the newer one.

all i know is there is no lag to my build at all now, WOW...nice work guys!

fixxxer2008 said:
whatever is in that new base files package really sped up my build from zen, ill tell you that much, now my phone recieves calls too. the only thing i notice is im back to the old style button map settings for adjusting volume and waking up the phone and such?
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All thanks to the bundle of files go to pmos, him and no one else. I just put together the system.
The button thing was accidental, however I have had alot of problems with my camera button not working intermittantly, we are working on a way of it being user selectable at boot.

I would also agree that some sort of organization is definitely needed. I think that system image threads should be condensed or organized in some way also. Having 15 threads, each with not too much information on what the build actually is, and info on the new update on page 15... just makes it hard for everyone. New comers and people who are experienced and trying to help others.

TheKartus said:
I would also agree that some sort of organization is definitely needed. I think that system image threads should be condensed or organized in some way also. Having 15 threads, each with not too much information on what the build actually is, and info on the new update on page 15... just makes it hard for everyone. New comers and people who are experienced and trying to help others.
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There are 5 threads for builds. One for the kernel.

welll my phone is still running good today with that new bundle that was posted last night.
im still getting used to the old style button mapping but to be honest i like it better this way.

I think this post goes in the wrong direction.
The best thing of Android is that devs from different mobiles are working toguether to improve our phones.
I´m a polaris user and in the development of android for polaris developers with different phones help a lot
What we need is an Android section as it´s being petitioned in order to develop all toguether. Of course with organization.
Let´s think as Android and not only as vogue

iseeka said:
I think this post goes in the wrong direction.
The best thing of Android is that devs from different mobiles are working toguether to improve our phones.
I´m a polaris user and in the development of android for polaris developers with different phones help a lot
What we need is an Android section as it´s being petitioned in order to develop all toguether. Of course with organization.
Let´s think as Android and not only as vogue
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I agree but remember this is a vogue forum, so for the average user that comes here, they have a vogue. If you guys have a polaris dev get him to contact me and we'll look into making the bundles work right with your phones as well.
Again this is why I posted the poll to move the dev to another forum where we can have proper organization

NAND Development as it's own sub-forum under "HTC Leo: HD2"

With NAND seeming to be so close I wanted to start a poll as to where an HD2 NAND Development forum should be. My personal belief is that it should be under the parent "HTC Leo: HD2" forum, on it's own and not under this forum "HD2 Android Development". I think this way so that it keeps actual future "Flashed" versions seperate from the current dual-boot versions we use right now.
Thoughts?
P.s.
I'm a big boy, and expect to be flamed as I'm sort of a noob but please see this for what it is... a poll and suggestion to start a new forum in the near future.

I think there should be a forum on its own in the future AFTER NAND is developed, if not we will have a lot of bricked newbies.

So, before this thread gets deleted - let me say that this forum will most likely become the nand development forum once efforts arrive at that.
If you think about it, the dev team and testers working on that aspect of android for the hd2 most likely have a robust method of team communication already in place amongst themselves and would probably be more distracted by the forum signal to noise ratio, and really, who cares about running droid off an SD card when methods to run it from nand become/are available?

motoman234 said:
I think there should be a forum on its own in the future AFTER NAND is developed, if not we will have a lot of bricked newbies.
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Completely agree, definitely AFTER.

There's no need to have a separate forum. This one is plenty big enough to handle all actual HD2 android development posts if all the posts that don't belong here (this poll for exemple) are posted in the general android forum.

I agree that mostly everything with become NAND in the future, but I also think it will take awhile for developers to completely move to NAND. Some people are not going to use NAND at all, they prefer dual boot. So in my opinion there will be both floating around for awhile at least.

buzz killington said:
There's no need to have a separate forum. This one is plenty big enough to handle all actual HD2 android development posts if all the posts that don't belong here (this poll for exemple) are posted in the general android forum.
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Imagine this....we keep the forums of nand and dual boot together, new people hop on the forum that have NO idea what nand is and they flash it the wrong way. Then we have about a hundred of these posts a day asking why there phone wont turn on. Recipe for disaster.

motoman234 said:
Imagine this....we keep the forums of nand and dual boot together, new people hop on the forum that have NO idea what nand is and they flash it the wrong way. Then we have about a hundred of these posts a day asking why there phone wont turn on. Recipe for disaster.
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That's what the forum stickies are for
Also, it seems to me that even with all of the FAQ, stickies, and what have you here at xda, there STILL seems to be an abundance of "help i kilt my phone' posts pretty much in every sub forum in fact LOL
same forum - and gl finding any chefs wanting to make sd stuff when they can cook roms to flash right onto the phones internal storage - fast, clean....
Let me put it this way, if you've been around here long enough you know that most rom chefs have that competitive spirit...that is, each individual is always looking to be the fastest, most stable, most desired rom at xda.
Bud, if a nand flash lets me cook roms that are even a fraction faster and more stable than running off sd and dual boot, guess where I'm gonna spend my valuable cooking time?
jus sayin

zkid2010 said:
That's what the forum stickies are for
Also, it seems to me that even with all of the FAQ, stickies, and what have you here at xda, there STILL seems to be an abundance of "help i kilt my phone' posts pretty much in every sub forum in fact LOL
same forum - and gl finding any chefs wanting to make sd stuff when they can cook roms to flash right onto the phones internal storage - fast, clean....
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Your definitely right about people always asking for help (No matter what) but ive heard quite a few people say that there sticking with dual boot. I guess we will have to see, im sure if NAND runs incredibly great it will change there minds.

motoman234 said:
Imagine this....we keep the forums of nand and dual boot together, new people hop on the forum that have NO idea what nand is and they flash it the wrong way. Then we have about a hundred of these posts a day asking why there phone wont turn on. Recipe for disaster.
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Do you really think the developers will write a loader to write a haret version of android into flash?

motoman234 said:
Imagine this....we keep the forums of nand and dual boot together, new people hop on the forum that have NO idea what nand is and they flash it the wrong way. Then we have about a hundred of these posts a day asking why there phone wont turn on. Recipe for disaster.
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if you don't know how to work ur microwave, you probably wanna dig up the manual and read it first before you use it.
same crap different pile. people who brick their device because they don't do their own research only have themselves to blame

NAND should have its own subforum
Completely agree.

CrazyEye said:
NAND should have its own subforum
Completely agree.
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totally agreee

CrazyEye said:
NAND should have its own subforum
Completely agree.
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yes, dedicated subforum .....
Sent from my Htcclay's SuperHD2 1.3 using XDA App

lacusxharo said:
if you don't know how to work ur microwave, you probably wanna dig up the manual and read it first before you use it.
same crap different pile. people who brick their device because they don't do their own research only have themselves to blame
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Yes, yes, I agree. But unfortunately a lot of newbs don't do there research first, which is there own fault. But I think the idea of XDA is to make it as simple as possible. Only time will tell, I just think there will be never ending questions if nand and dual boot are mixed. But who knows.

Makes sense as soon as there is a NAND version. Not before IMO
So, shoot the noob

hav0c said:
Makes sense as soon as there is a NAND version. Not before IMO
So, shoot the noob
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Well there is going to be the FIRST nand version for HD2 with in 24 hours

imho it should be best to divide the forums like this
HD2
---HD2 General
---HD2 WinMo Q&A
---HD2 Android Q&A
---HD2 ROM Windows Development
----General talk (No roms inhere)
------Themes
------Apps
------Games
---HD2 Android Development
-----General talk (No roms inhere)
---------Themes
--------- Apps
--------- Games
-----HD2 ROM Android Development
-----HD2 SD Android Dev
---Nand info
------Winmo vs. Android comparison (only facts, no bs)
this would make things so much easier in search maybe ppl. wouldn't make so much unnecessary threads

HectiQ said:
imho it should be best to divide the forums like this
HD2
---HD2 General
---HD2 WinMo Q&A
---HD2 Android Q&A
---HD2 ROM Windows Development
----General talk (No roms inhere)
------Themes
------Apps
------Games
---HD2 Android Development
-----General talk (No roms inhere)
---------Themes
--------- Apps
--------- Games
-----HD2 ROM Android Development
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------Winmo vs. Android comparison (only facts, no bs)
this would make things so much easier in search maybe ppl. wouldn't make so much unnecessary threads
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like this idea , totally agreement ... but we'll see what is coming in future

motoman234 said:
I think there should be a forum on its own in the future AFTER NAND is developed, if not we will have a lot of bricked newbies.
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Can't agree more...

[Q] Subforums for Sense/Stock builds in the Dev section ?

As it appears people clearly like or dont like HTC Sense, would it be possibly to add these options to the dev forums, its getting really confusing trying to follow/ find anything with the page's updating every second and the random names dev's use to tag there builds

RenZ0R said:
As it appears people clearly like or dont like HTC Sense, would it be possibly to add these options to the dev forums, its getting really confusing trying to follow/ find anything with the page's updating every second and the random names dev's use to tag there builds
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Sorry for my ignorance but do you need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street too?

inny2 said:
Sorry for my ignorance but do you need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street too?
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Nope but obviously someone needs help on learning on how to throw together a witty non valid comment... it's a simple suggestion on cleaning up the forums to make them more user friendly, now, back under your rock troll...

I was going to suggest something similar too.Another thought was to not have so much discriptions on the headings,maybe just the basics of what is there.Then more detailed info when the thread is opened,maybe.I find it pretty confusing the differentiate between some of the builds.
I'm almost changing on a two daily basis my android roms and am very grateful for all the hard work being put into this so keep up the good work and thanks

I have to say its rather easy for me to figure out what type of build it is.
maybe its just me. Usually there is something in the header that tips me off.

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Nope but obviously someone needs help on learning on how to throw together a witty non valid comment... it's a simple suggestion on cleaning up the forums to make them more user friendly, now, back under your rock troll...
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hazard99 said:
I have to say its rather easy for me to figure out what type of build it is.
maybe its just me. Usually there is something in the header that tips me off.
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I hope you see the difference between me (troll) and you. Check the titles, waste some more time to install all the builds and you will find which developer and what build is what with what.
Thank you!

Your correct, Titles tell us everything
[BUILD]Mdeejay FroYo HD v.3.3 beta|1.24.405.1|kernel: hastarin r 7.1
must therefore be a Stock build.... oh wait, its Sense.
I could list various titles for hours with the amount of releases there is on a weekly basis, see what im getting at here ?
The suggestion I made has nothing to do with testing builds, what developer to use, or any other of the random questions about builds that are flooding the forums, its about a creating a simple sub forum so the two variations of releases can be easily distinguished and found by the user looking for it, and probably give a little leeway to the dev's from the constant requests they get to do a alternative build with/without sense, simple organisation allowing less clutter and less load on the xda servers search function.

No need subforums for Sense/Stock, Stock build is dying, in a few days you won't able to find any stock build in the first few pages, there are will be Sense and EVIL Sense...

RenZ0R said:
Your correct, Titles tell us everything
[BUILD]Mdeejay FroYo HD v.3.3 beta|1.24.405.1|kernel: hastarin r 7.1
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Isn't HD in the title as Rom from Desire HD?
Plus most developers if not all put some screen shots at the end of their first post.
And we are talking for how many android roms in total? 10? Thats nothing compared to WM roms and GTX themed or Max-Sense. Needless to say the mess with the builds for 6.5 and 6.5.x builds. As soon as people get acquainted with what they have its fine.

Possible "nand" forum

dear administrator would it be possible to have a seperate thread for nand maybee as a sub catogary in android development, so we would have seperate "NAND" and "SD" threads

More likely the SD builds would fall into a subcategory as NAND becomes the standard as it is with all the other android phones.

There will be no need for a separate forum. If you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894143 you can clearly see how new build threads have to be named so that you can clearly see what is for what with regards SD, SD RAM or NAND builds and kernels.

still would be nice not having to filter through tho

Do a search of this forum, titles only for [NAND] or [SD].....done.
Example for NAND: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=54393021

whynot66 said:
dear administrator would it be possible to have a seperate thread for nand maybee as a sub catogary in android development, so we would have seperate "NAND" and "SD" threads
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Bunch of debbie downers... Whynot66 I say why not!!!??? Whats it hurt? Like organizing the threads would cause the world to end.
Have a good new year!

Sorry guys as of right now there will be no new forum with SD and Nand divided. Please use the "tagging system" provided in the How to Title your thread topic to learn an understand the topics titles and help you with the sorting of topics.
Typically I would probably close this thread but at the same time, I do think that it could also serve a purpose.
I'm going to add a poll and move this thread to HD2 Android General Discussion.

I don't think we should make another forum/sub forum for NAND builds. To be honest it's more hassel for the Devs/Cookers. Say if they want to maintain both their SD and NAND builds, get feedback from people, the burden will be heavier. Like Mdeejay, he has so much builds out already, if he makes a NAND version each one, then has to make a new thread for each one, and in a different forum, and he's gonna have to keep up with feedback for each thread.

Their is already to many subforums in the hd2 section. Most out of any other phone. Lets add an UBUNTU section too while were at it. Because that doesn't fit in any category. Vote is definitely NO

my argument is that there will be a lot of people sticking with the sd builds so they can keep winmob, there will be so many builds popping up [sd] [ram] and [nand] new posts and builds released if unpopular will soon disappear of the first few pages. and things will get confusing.

I highly doubt the rest of the cooks will even update any further builds for sd. They'll just leave them as is.

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I highly doubt the rest of the cooks will even update any further builds for sd. They'll just leave them as is.
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I hope that doesn't happen... there's still a lot of us that will still be using SD builds.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Zara is right. I think a good majority of users will still want SD builds. One really good advantage of SD builds is the big amount of storage available, which I think many of us appreciate, well atleast us non-TMOUS HD2 users.
Either way a forum will always have unpopular threads/builds, which in our case, if unpopular, is probably a build which has a build that has not been updated in a long time or outdated.
Lets save ourselves the server space no? It's not hard to look at thread titles for SD, NAND or RAM is there?

Why not?
a NAND and SD forum wouldn't be hard and it would make those of us looking for just NAND way faster.
quit arguing just to argue unless you have a reason for NOT wanting it. not why search is so much better.
Organization is key to success

It might be organized but it's still a waste. Why can't Devs have simply one thread for both an SD and NAND build, or only one, instead of having to manage two threads? Is our stress of simply pressing a link or two and just viewing titles comparable to the stress of what Devs would have to go through?

Useless, useless idea. It will be no for me.
To much sub-forum would kill forum

Interesting that the most vocal are the naysayers but currently 76% of those voting say yes to separate forums....in the meantime my earlier post will show you how to setup a search on title for [Nand] and [SD]...you can also bookmark these searches so you would be able to pull up only nand posts or only sd posts already.

I don't see the point or reason to add another sub-forum to the already large list of sub-forums for the hd2, it might end up being convenient to some of us that don't want to have to read thru the titles of [NAND]/[SD]/[SD-RAM], but what is also going to create is more work for the devs that will have to monitor multiple threads and more threads for the mods to follow up on. I think the new label system is a great idea and I'm sure it will do the job of showing people what to look for, and like famewolf said it about how to search and bookmark threads, maybe he should make a thread showing people how to use the new labeling system when doing a search.

Count me in on it. I think it will be productive for those of us who wish to stick with SD. Already some devs are switching over to NAND and abandoning SD. Separating forums I believe would resolve this.

how will it create more work? its the same amount of threads either way just actually organized instead of the mess it is right now and the bigger one its going to become. besides a nand section there should also be a ram section as far as im concerned. and if its the devs that dont want to "create more work" for themselves then they should probably not release multiple builds. im all for as many builds as we can get of course but id sacrifice quantity for quality... wouldn't everybody? not to mention the same build made 3 different ways is nice and all but it seems kind of redundant. why not just make the best one of all 3 versions especially if you dont want to play tech support for them?
yeah ok we can get a headache and strain our eyes on the ever growing extra long string of capitol letters designating what something is in brackets or of course go a few more steps and search but having another sub forum is not exactly taxing work. if a mod or admin cant handle it then what are they possibly gonna do when a *gasp* new phone comes out or a different os becomes available to the hd2?!? this is a forum. forums are organized. i also run my own. i cant think of any reason why i wouldnt let users make a sub forum if it was called for. having 3 separate ways to install something all mixed up together is annoying. i cant even see how another sub would even get in the way of the people who dont want it. youd think people would vote to make it easier to find what they are looking for rather then continue the endless stream of usually snide "use the search" posts. i mean...im obviously gonna continue to use the forum but its either gonna be better or the same as it is. we dont even have a app section for android. not sure what makes us think we could get this too. on the other hand not sure why theres such resistance to it in the first place...

can u suggest me a android rom for my htc leo:hd2

Hello, I m using htc leo:hd2, and its now converted to android, but the problem is about phone is showing my phone is htc bravo android v.2.2.1. Please guide me to find a suitable ROM for my phone... and how can i get it?

There is a Android HD2 NAND development section you know.
try LOOKING there
its not hard you know, looking

try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25781675#post25781675

I think by now, we are tired of seeing the exact same thread pop up over and over again.. A simple google search of "best android rom" would result in a plethora of hits that would have solved your problem faster than making a new, but redundant thread.. One size does not fit all, and you will have to try out various roms before you find one that you like..

Thanks a lot
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There is a Android HD2 NAND development section you know.
try LOOKING there
its not hard you know, looking
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Thanks a lot for ur support

trazzaque said:
Thanks a lot for ur support
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Your very welcome
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795608
This one has been really good for me.

look for one of the miui roms

Welcome to forums. I'll give you a few brief tips on what I've learned over the last six months about android, hd2, and android.
With a typical nand install, the bootable system is installed on your internal nand, irrespective of your sd-card being present. Some may relate to the following comparison to a microsoft windows based system: your nand is like your internal hard drive "master" that contains your "C:" drive.
Your system folder on your nand has files specific to your device as required for it to boot and run properly. To access the market (google play) as well as have various hardware functionality, there is a file "build.prop" that is a small file with a text list of various descriptors. Being that the hd2 was not shipped with android, some of these descriptors name other devices as opposed to the actual device. In this case the "leo" or hd2 is using a ported version of android from a "bravo" or desire HD. So your system isn't malfunctioning describing another device name, rather, it could be looked at as "masquerading" as another device. I'm certain that is a severe dumbing-down of the technical details, but it's been helpful for some to look at it that way.
As for xda, I hope you spend an enormous time reading and not posting, as I have done all year. I have not posted at all and have literally read damn near every single post in the hd2 section and many more useful posts in other sections. After over six months and countless hours experimenting/flashing/customizing/etc on my own I am beginning to post now, attempting to contribute a bit in the forums that aren't still restricted for me because I feel comfortable enough to begin working towards contributing my input in the developer forums.
Most forums online have a similar attitude towards the plethora of posts like this, which bluntly request a quick answer for what is best determined through spending time reading and researching.
Hopefully you read the above and didn't skip to the end here where I wholeheartedly recommend the xylograph paranoid android ics rom. Cheers, and best of luck getting this amazing phone to fight well.

Amen to that. Nonetheless for starters go soft on your first rom get the CM7 of tyween. It's light and works well. But it's your choice. Indeed, look at me, just joined yesterday spent also almost six months reading the posts and relevant dev threads. Why am I posting, need it now to be able to complete my ten......

I can say for myself only. By my opinion, AOKP has best combination of settings and tweaks which really make life easier. Battery life and speed of this rom are very very good. But unfortunately this rom was not very stable for me, I experienced hot reboots regularly.
So I switched back to NexusHD2. It has comparable battery life and speed, but less tweaking possibilities. Stability of this rom has always been out of question for me. It is solid rock.
TyphooN CyanogenMod ROM was my first rom on HD2 and I have only positive impressions of it. Switched to ICS just because this phone let me do that. Prefer newer versions when possible.