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[Q] [Q in need of A] Will installing NAND Android still allow me to run [SD] Android?

Title says it all

I am wondering that question as well..., how do you access the data/files on ya SD inside Android/NAND Android?

Well there's always file managing apps like Astro, but I'm not sure if it works that way, so, if someone could put kill our question!

Android is Linux based so there should be a similiar command to ls -a where you can see the files and be able to run SD Roms? Or I'm kinda hoping there is..., in SU maybe???

Thanks for the feedback bro, appreciate them.
We just need a response from actual experience; surely trying to run Android off SD wouldn't harm the device in any way.

I don't think we can boot an android build from an android build seeing as how clrcad and haret was build for winmo. >.> but looking at the magdlr notes, if i'm wrong, it has an option to boot android from SD or to boot from NAND, so guess that means you can have an android build in SD and NAND.

NEVER MIND... it failed the second time.

Yes but the build has to be built like a nand build. So you can't just boot the ones you have now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10202441&postcount=146

buzz killington said:
Yes but the build has to be built like a nand build. So you can't just boot the ones you have now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10202441&postcount=146
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I just tried..., I done what I would normally do for an SD Build and used the NAND boot menu to try to run the SD Build. Even though there is an option which says you can run from AD SD..., it doesn't happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10202441&postcount=146 <-- This makes sense ( no pun intended )

I understand that a Nand build on SD card will work the same as Nand build on phone, that makes perfect sense.
Question is, is the SD card memory used for application files or will it use up all the memory on my phone like Nand on phone does? Is it possible to use a data.img. Of course, the perfect solution would be to add the option in Magldr (Nand) to boot into recovery so the SD card could be partitioned for files and ext3 for extra application system files like we can with a normal Android phone. Then the need to add another Android rom onto the SD card just for extra storage would not be needed for us European users.
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Getting Frustrated,Still cant Get Clockwork Mod Working

hey guys
i followed all the instructions, on the Clockwork Mod thread,ive even fully formated my sd card,getting really anoyed now,any help would be appretiated

TheiPhoneKiller said:
hey guys
i followed all the instructions, on the Clockwork Mod thread,ive even fully formated my sd card,getting really anoyed now,any help would be appretiated
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Same here. Maybe its something to do with UK Hd2's.
I followed all the instructions too, and kept getting stuck in the boot screen loop.
Back to Nand for me... one thing, on screen before screen to flash zip it says can't find misc, even when I make a misc folder it makes no difference. Good luck to you anyway.

Garrylufc said:
Maybe its something to do with UK Hd2's.
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Works fine for me, so it's not that.
TheiPhoneKiller said:
hey guys
i followed all the instructions, on the Clockwork Mod thread,ive even fully formated my sd card,getting really anoyed now,any help would be appretiated
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Can you tell us what you're doing and what happens?

i Copy contents of copytosdroot folder to the root of my sd.then i boot into magldr and go into USB Flasher whilst still connected to my laptop,Run DAF,when thats done i again boot into magldr and tap Boot AD SD but it keep failing to go into Clockwork,i keep getting soming like k:Music/zimage not found or failed to load kernal even tho ive fully formated my sd,its really anoying,i cant try out any new roms exept nand,Really frustrating

I had problems running like this initially - what worked was putting the 'copytosd' files in a folder on the SD Card (I used 'ADSD'), then changing the Boot AD SD folder option in the Settings menu to that new folder ('ADSD').
Then try using 'Boot AD SD' option.
For some reason it did not like the root folder initially (though it now seems to work fine).

Use Panasonic SD Card formatter & re format the SD card & try again, I had the same issues but now its resolved..!!!

Uvaavu said:
I had problems running like this initially - what worked was putting the 'copytosd' files in a folder on the SD Card (I used 'ADSD'), then changing the Boot AD SD folder option in the Settings menu to that new folder ('ADSD').
Then try using 'Boot AD SD' option.
For some reason it did not like the root folder initially (though it now seems to work fine).
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Guys,
Mine works as well so not a UK issue
Did you follow the instructions using DAF and indicated that it was successful but when you try to 1: boot from sd nothing happens or it flashes and returns to the MAGLDR screen?
I had an issue with the root folder as well, create a folder \recovery and copy the 2 root files intrid.gz and zimage to the \recovery and goto services and change the boot to folder to \recovery.
Important reboot before trying as MAGLDR does not change the folder until after a reboot.
Boot from SD and should be OK
Or at least was for me

Now Nand has came out it has inspired a lot to create their own Android builds and new chefs make mistakes. Not trying to blame chefs in general but some do make mistakes.
Also when we used to load up the builds from SD card, I would say 8 times out of 10 I would use a data.img which hasnt been used before. Now if you go from a Sense build to a non-Sense build, and you are using a data.img in app2sd, then they are not properly matched so a-b might go to a-c and miss b out if you know what I mean. What I do is use a data.img for Sense, another for Sense HD/Z, another one for Gingerbread and another for Miui and these are on my Desktop. When I load up a different builds like Sense to Miui, then I will move the data.img from .data or data2sd folder off the memory card and then overwrite the data.img I have on the Desktop for Sense and replace it for my Miui data.img.
I know it sounds tedious but I found it to help.
Also for the new App2SD+, I create the partition using ClockWorkMod instead of another application. I will use Partition Wizard for Windows to delete a partition and resize the fat32 partition back to the full use of the memory card but always partition and create EXT3 partition using ClockWorkMod.
Hope this helps.

waspsl said:
Guys,
Mine works as well so not a UK issue
Did you follow the instructions using DAF and indicated that it was successful but when you try to 1: boot from sd nothing happens or it flashes and returns to the MAGLDR screen?
I had an issue with the root folder as well, create a folder \recovery and copy the 2 root files intrid.gz and zimage to the \recovery and goto services and change the boot to folder to \recovery.
Important reboot before trying as MAGLDR does not change the folder until after a reboot.
Boot from SD and should be OK
Or at least was for me
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i have a slightly different problem: I can boot into clockwork recovery after copying the copy-to-sd files and use it as a partitioning tool. But cant actually complete the installation as I keep getting errors when i run the DAF file from CWM folder in USB flasher option of MAGDLR, so cant actually use it for recovery !!!!

[Q] why wont the sd builds for me with magldr

so i tried almost all the builds for magldr and a couple that i found zimage or intrd files for and nothing works.
Well the superRam froyo worked once after 4 tries and never worked again.
I even task 29'd my phone and installed a fresh magldr 1.3.
they are all booting to the htc screen or equivalent and staying there.
for some reason some of them wont even drag to my sd card. I waited over an hour on one of them and it was only half way with no progression.
the last one i tried was skinnyevo and it took over an hour to load onto my sdcard. then when it was done, niether my phone or my computer would recognize my card. only thing that would read it is easeus partition manager through mass storage in magldr.
Are some of the files corrupt or what. does anyone else have problems like these.
I want to have wp7 and an android build able to boot. wp7 for show mostly.
and i cant let my phone win. it really erks me.
I even loaded an android nand recovery through cw and tried to drag my files over using that.
I also tried to drag them to the fat32 partitioned half of my sdcard with wp7 on it, and nothing.

You shouldn't use magldr mass storage to transfer files... it's known to corrupt the files. Take card out and use card reader.
Also, most sd android builds need a modified init.rc file to work with magldr. There's a thread about it in the android sd section. I have most builds working good, so if there's a specific build you want, pm me and I'll see if I have it work and send you my copy.
I don't think you can use clockwork recovery when you have wp7 on NAND... clockwork is only for nand android. There are threads in the sd android section about dual-booting and getting sd builds to work with magldr. There are also a few recent builds that will work as is with magldr.

I was actually using either android or CW to transfer files. Ive never had any issues with them. my sdcard reader is broken.
I was able to erase and reformat my card so its working again.
I might give it a try again. Hopefully my head doesnt explode.
Are there any Builds that are known to have a high success rate for magldr.
Oh and by init.rc did you meen initrd.gz thats the only custom file ive downloaded and seen in the android folders. Maybe i have the wrong ones.
Maybe ill try with my 4g card. its the same brand though.

darkkeycliq said:
I was actually using either android or CW to transfer files. Ive never had any issues with them. my sdcard reader is broken.
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The same has happened to me, various NAND build corrupted my data on card and once I tried to use that card in a reader the reader then broke and didnt work on any cards or any systems. Thsi has happened to 3 now.

darkkeycliq said:
I was actually using either android or CW to transfer files. Ive never had any issues with them. my sdcard reader is broken.
I was able to erase and reformat my card so its working again.
I might give it a try again. Hopefully my head doesnt explode.
Are there any Builds that are known to have a high success rate for magldr.
Oh and by init.rc did you meen initrd.gz thats the only custom file ive downloaded and seen in the android folders. Maybe i have the wrong ones.
Maybe ill try with my 4g card. its the same brand though.
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I have most sd builds working great with magldr... pm me with what builds you'd like if you want to try one of my edited builds. I've edited and gotten most of the sd builds from dec til now to work fine.

[Q] SD Card mode from NAND mode

Hello All....
I have installed android on my HD2, via NAND, and found that i suddenly ran out of space, and i cant install any apps. This is obviously due to a large rom, loaded onto the phone. I therefore started invetigating android via SD card. What should i do as precaution not to brick, or where can i find a guide to going to sd method from the NAND method.
Or alternatively, if you can help me with my partition sizes, for when i reflash android that i actually have some space. If someone can give me a breakdown of what the partitions must look like...
while this may be easy for others, i am a noob on the hd2-android..
a Speedy response would be highly appreciated...
thanks

Here is a decent walk-through on how to dual boot with Windows Phone 7 (with WP7 being on NAND and Android being on SD). He covers pretty well the partitioning processes that are needed. I haven't tried it out myself, cause my HD2 is being shipped to me currently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTHRAUHZHlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTMry4NEPTE

You don't have to partition your card for most SD roms. If the Rom requires partitioning it will tell you in the instructions. You can boot SD roms through magdlr as well. Just copy root folder of Rom ("Android") to root of SD, then in magdlr go to services>SD boot settings and ensure it is pointed at you Android directory. Then select ad sd boot and it should boot from there.
P.S. If you intend to keep your nand install, you will need to rename your Android sd folder to something other than Android. Be sure to change the directory in magdlr to match the new name of your folder. This worked for me. I am currently running a nand build and a sd build and both run great.
Cheers

What about apps to sd????
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[Q] Loading SD ROM via MAGDLR---Stuck at Logo Splash

Hello,
I installed a NAND Android (NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.6 (Kernel: tytung_HWA_r3.4) which I’m quite happy with but would like to try out some SD card ROMs.
Now I tried to start SD Android Builds (e.g.JaguarMIUI-V21 to run via MAGDLR v1.13 and MccM MixTheme V1.3 HTC) but no matter what I do it’s stuck at the Boot splash. I even notice that the data.img gets built. But no Android gets loaded. Just logo splash. I reformatted my SD card. Same result.
What are the considerations: Does only the Kernel of the SD Card ROM matter? If so which one is recommended? Does the resident NAND ROM matter? The version of MAGDLR? SD card format/partitioning?
I’ve seen others encounter this but it’s been hard finding a definitive conclusion. Most point to using the right Kernel for the SD ROM.
I have followed the instructions to copy rootfs + startup.txt to ROM folder as well as to ensure that the startup.txt shows the appropriate path (i.e. rel_path=Android).
Any advise would be appreciated.

Hi, just take the sd build as it is. Everything will be ready to go, kernal etc. Nand will not make any difference as you are rebooting from the card files.
Check the location of your files, you can rename main folder but change rel_path in the startup.txt
Otherwise, also in startup.txt, check the data_size, 512mb file could take 10mins or more to create
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Thanks gazzacbr. Note I didn't have this issue when I was on WM 6.5 and loaded SD ROMs via HaRET.exe. Now I'm on NAND Android and attempting to build and load same ROM from MAGDLR using Dev's instruction. I notice some report similar issue in individual ROM threads but I've not come across consistent root cause and resolution documented. Perhaps I'll try a newer SD ROM and see if experience is different from the previous SD ROMs I've attempted.

I am able to now get yugoports miuiv4.1 to boot via MAGDLR. Still not sure why I couldn't get the other MIUI SD ROMs to load. I have some old data.img files from those roms from my wm6.5 days. I'll extract data that I need by leveraging ext2explore app. gazzacbr, I saw you mention this app on an unrelated thread and so I thank you.