Ok, quick question....I was able to get S-Off the first try but wasn't sure about flashing CM recovery while preforming the commands so I opted not to install it since I already add it using the zip on my SD. Now, is it possible to install it premantely since I didn't do it then? Or am I suck using to zip on the sd card...Just wondering, thanks.
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It is possible using fastboot commands, i extracted the recovery image thanks to hebrewtoyou who provided the command... so yeah you are not stuck, ill pm you with the file and instructions if noone else helps you put first.
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Thanks man, if you or someone could pm the file and commands that would be awesome...
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What is S OFF? I been seeing that a lot lately.
S-ON and S-Off is (I believe) the NAND security that is put on all Android phones. It's a feature company's (HTC, Samsung) put on our phones to lock it down so we don't change the stock feature, full root access and recovery. With S-Off we now have access to the system partition while our phones are on using a term or apps like root explorer and put on perm recoverys There is more to it but this is just a quick run down. Please if I wrong, by all mean correct me ..Lol. I have only been in the Android world since last march when I got my first android, the behold 2.
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I also would like the commands and also is there an unmoded hboot for if we need to send the phone to tmobile and we can make the phone fully stock.
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DGarmon said:
S-ON and S-Off is (I believe) the NAND security that is put on all Android phones. It's a feature company's (HTC, Samsung) put on our phones to lock it down so we don't change the stock feature, full root access and recovery. With S-Off we now have access to the system partition while our phones are on using a term or apps like root explorer and put on perm recoverys There is more to it but this is just a quick run down. Please if I wrong, by all mean correct me ..Lol. I have only been in the Android world since last march when I got my first android, the behold 2.
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Mostly right yeah, but actually most android phones are s-off. If I remember correctly, only a few ended up being released s-on.
Frank2009 said:
I also would like the commands and also is there an unmoded hboot for if we need to send the phone to tmobile and we can make the phone fully stock.
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Not while retaining s-off, no. You'd have to place ESPRIMG.zip back in the root of your sd card and boot into hboot and reflash ESPRIMG.zip, which will overwrite your hboot/fastboot, recovery, ROM, and de-root your device.
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Well as the tittle says. How does perm root work?
Now I'm not a newbe, I'm not asking how to do it. I'm just looking for the information on how and y it works, its because I care and its what I do.
Now it seems like wpthis.ko is a driver or command to unlock the nand.
Then we pushed an hboot with s-off
Sync it to save changes to system.
Then rebooted to boot the phone in the os with nand unlocked.
So now all changes stick as we are now writing to the true system and not a cache or ghost partion.
Is this right? If not please correct me. I am just trying to get some nfo
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Well as the tittle says. How does prem root work?
Now I'm not a newbe, I'm not asking how to do it. I'm just looking for the information on how and y it works, its because I care and its what I do.
Now it seems like wpthis.ko is a driver or command to unlock the nand.
Then we pushed an hboot with s-off
Sync it to save changes to system.
Then rebooted to boot the phone in the os with nand unlocked.
So now all changes stick as we are now writing to the true system and not a cache or ghost partion.
Is this right? If not please correct me. I am just trying to get some nfo
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YEs! ur right!
prem root?neve heard of it have heard of PERM-ROOT though!
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prem root?neve heard of it have heard of PERM-ROOT though!
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Hahaha, im still getting use to the keyboard and swype.
Post has been corrected now.
And to the other guy thanx
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i used the method mentioned here
hxxp://theunlockr.com/2010/11/15/universal-android-rooting-method-visionary-method/
and it shows i still have SU permission... but everytime my phone re starts, it opens visionary and says rooting phone...
but the thing is, my phone is snail slow now... and when i go back to the main screen, it takes forever and says loading... then my normal screen shows up... its also taking forever to do simple things, such as open text msg's
any suggestions on this problem?
Lol i think you didnt properly s-off and prem-root your phone. Go to G2/disireZ android dev... locate the thread about prem rooting. There should be 3 methods. 1 gfree(safest) 2. Unforgivens method( fastest) and 3. Rage method( dont know) well yea... hope u get rooted and if anybody sees my post can you guys better explain lol thanks
Edit: lol just go to stickes and there should be a thread that talks about guilds and roms.
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shows my phone is rooted, and su lets me access it, also just tried to dl setcpu and it has access as well....
just the phone is still stupid slow.. and i want to fix that
Okay... what rom are u using?
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stock, i have not touched anything yet, tryign to get input on which is the best sense rom to dl...
basically i just want to clean up the phone, remove all bells crap from it, and speed it up a lil bit....
Quick thing i want u to do. Can u turn off your phone and hold vol down + power and tell me what it says on the upper left of the screen
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ya it says s-on still.... whats the easy way to get rid of this... and as i said i just want to speed up this phone a lil bit
Lol do you want full root? Or just speed up your phone?
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both, id like the option to upgrade to a nice optimized sense rom, and to speed up the phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965 ( 1st method of prem rooting) (fastest)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF
( this is the gfree method the safest) i advice to follow this sinces its the safest
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but since it says my phone is rooted already, can this cause problems? or can i un root and re do it?
Lol alrighty. When you get prem-root/s-off you should flash virtuous Rom(sense) or cyan RC1 Rom(stock android feel).
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No lol you are not rooted. You have temp root. If your hboot says s-on then your not rooted. I advice not to mess with the prem root button on visionary.
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no no what im saying is that since my phone says its s-on still, but it says its rooted... how can i start fresh, by say unrooting my phone, or is there some way i can just hop in the middle here....
im new to all this and i dont want to screw up my phone lol
Your using visionary right? Since you have s-on after you reboot your phone it should be unrooted again. Just make sure you turn off the start at boot thing on visionary
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Dont use visionary, use the other two. There have been to many problems with Visionary.
i did turn it off, and setcpu still has access it says.... so where can i confirm on the phone is it is or is not rooted....
Does h-boot say S-Off?
Like i said before. Turn off your phone hold vol down + power. If it says s-off on the left top of the screen the your rooted. Well i used unforgivens way of prem rooting and no issues. S-off (security off)
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nope says s-on
I followed multiple steps for installing perm root on a friends Mytouch and for some reason we could not get the s-off feature to work. I noticed too we do have SU access via adb or terminal but I still never could get s-off. After we got root we used rom manager to install clockwork and after the fact it installed 3.0.2 i believe it completely borked the recovery. I stepped it down to 3.0.0 and still had the same issue. The main reason i wanted to get s-off was to adb flash the recovery but I got a signature fail. Any ideas or suggestions to get this working correctly? Rom Manager will not let me install 2x cwm basically stating it can not install it period. I also tried the batch file root method same issue. Thanks for your help in advance.
Please look at the "True permaroot and S-OFF" thread in Development section, and execute step-by-step.
If your friend's MT4G is running Gingerbread (Android 2.3.3), you'll need to use Gingerbreak instead of Visionary+ to get root access.
Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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Its on froyo and i followed that guide i have perm root but we can not get s off. I can use root access for any programs
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If you are following the ./gfree method step by step it will root your phone.
If you are using the root.sh script and it's not working chances are you may have a bad eMMC chipset and it will not root properly.
I know HTC said they would be pushing a update to close the exploit hole that is used to root our phones but i don't think it's been pushed yet.
Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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Im not sure but it said something about not being able to back up partition or something but either way nice HTC is becoming a motorola nice
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HTC isn't "becoming a Motorola". HTC, is completely different. We do have a locked bootloader. But it's easily unlock-able whereas Moto's aren't.
Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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Its still not accepting the soff root which i am baffled at and with a broken recovery i need to know what to do now. Recovery just shows pc-cell logo
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I don't know what to tell you. There are several threads out there regarding how to root your phone. Both in a .gfree form and a root.sh form. One of those 2 work for 99.9% of EVERYONE.
You might try finding someone who put together a .zip that can be flashed through the android recovery(white screen with boot options, etc.). Otherwise you can get the RUU and return to stock. After that follow the directions step by step and DO NOT mix methods. This should result in an S-OFF root, if you did your homework correctly.
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I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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I did several methods via adb .sh file and .g i have root in the os Rom manager even installed cwm but i can't get into cwm i get that image.... So still lost as nothing is working on this phone for s off
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Until you have "s-off" no recovery image will stick.
Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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Obviously why i posted here to get insight anyways ill just redo it for the 5th time maybe it will work....
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What method are you using?
I have tried them all
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I have tried them all
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What errors are you getting?
Just can not get it to go soff i have root in the device otherwise. Recovery also just shows a computer and cell phone icon after Rom manager install clockwork mod 3x. I am just trying to adb install a older cwm.
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As someone already explained before, when the security is on, no matter the amount of flashing you're going to try - it won't get you anywhere, since it won't be written to the actual ROM, and will be gone on restart.
Unless you pick a guide, follow it exactly, and post here everything that doesn't look proper - I don't think the forum can help you much.
Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Follow it and post anything that doesn't look good. Including your bootloader version.
The root is sticking on reboots but still no soff that's what i have been saying and i followed the guides to a t its not my first picnic rooting or roming a phone this one just has me stumped
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What does your bootloader show when you boot into it?
For the root to stick after boot, you had to have S-OFF, otherwise the eMMC wouldn't have been written to.
Having no info from you, as I said, it's impossible to help. If all this thread is just a complaint - by all means, but in that case there's no point in helping you. If you want help - you need to provide enough details for people to help you. Obviously, nobody can figure out anything from "I can't get s-off".
I do a adb reboot bootloader and i get us fast boot up top it says s-on but if i reboot to the os i still have root access for instance in titanium backup or Rom manager of that helps any
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Why couldn't your dump a perfect rooted nand from one evo and force flash it over a unrooted nand on another evo. Why would this not work. The answer it would brick the phone would not satisfy my hunger for an answer. Lets discuss.
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My knowledge of root would make me think the unrooted phone would need a custom recovery to do that. I've never heard of force flashing a nandroid.
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Why couldn't your dump a perfect rooted nand from one evo and force flash it over a unrooted nand on another evo. Why would this not work. The answer it would brick the phone would not satisfy my hunger for an answer. Lets discuss.
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How would you force flash?
afaik, the only way to manually flash anything is to physically remove the chip and do it outside the phone, cant flash anything thru the phone itself since the Hboot will just stop any attempt cold on its feet, hboot is like your pc's bio, it comes up the second it powers up, so short of physically removing the chip to flash it outside the phone but thats not something the average user can do/has the tools to do
There would be no way to push the files passed hboot or write over hboot
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Hboot has a security setting that will check for a signature from HTC. Unless that security is gone (hole has been found to hard root device), there is no way around that security check to flash anything. Any change to something signed by HTC will invalidate the signature.
A month ago I rooted my Mytouch 4g and flashed Toasted Marshmellow with no problems. I wanted to go to Synthetic Nightmare's ICS rom since JB seemed a little too glitchy and used ROM Manager to do the flashing for me. However,when my phone booted back up, the white H-boot screen popped up instead of CWM. Instead of pulling the battery out, I accepted the update which brought my phone back to stock froyo. I still have s-off and my phone is no longer rooted. I tried to permroot and flashanother rom again today only for my phone to be stuck ont the Mytouch 4g screen.
I don't know if I should go back to s-on and try the process of s-off and permroot again?
Thoughts!
Have you tried pushing recovery back to your phone with adb? Or if u r stuck on the white logo screen u will have to use adb to communicate with your phone, to regain root? Someone? Possibly if u tried to reflash a rom then your boot.img may be different than the rom since you weren't rooted? I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud..brainstorming
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A month ago I rooted my Mytouch 4g and flashed Toasted Marshmellow with no problems. I wanted to go to Synthetic Nightmare's ICS rom since JB seemed a little too glitchy and used ROM Manager to do the flashing for me. However,when my phone booted back up, the white H-boot screen popped up instead of CWM. Instead of pulling the battery out, I accepted the update which brought my phone back to stock froyo. I still have s-off and my phone is no longer rooted. I tried to permroot and flashanother rom again today only for my phone to be stuck ont the Mytouch 4g screen.
I don't know if I should go back to s-on and try the process of s-off and permroot again?
Thoughts!
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Ok, push the pd15img.zip into bootloader and reset back to stock if you haven't already done so. Then do the gfree rooting method to gain Perma root.
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Ok, push the pd15img.zip into bootloader and reset back to stock if you haven't already done so. Then do the gfree rooting method to gain Perma root.
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I'm able to push the pd15.img with no problems and was able to successfully root through visionary, but now it seems I can't flash any roms. I've tried numerous times only to get either stuck at the mytouch 4g screen and once it got an error and the installations was aborted. Everytime this happens, I have to repush pd15.img and re-root. It's been going on since yesterday and am so frustrated to the point I'm ready to give up.
I love having custom roms, but this is stupid!
Also, try using 4ext recovery instead of CWM. Maybe you will not get an error. Wipe data, cache & dalvik, the format everything except sdcard. Then install zip from sd (rom of your choice)
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I'm able to push the pd15.img with no problems and was able to successfully root through visionary, but now it seems I can't flash any roms. I've tried numerous times only to get either stuck at the mytouch 4g screen and once it got an error and the installations was aborted. Everytime this happens, I have to repush pd15.img and re-root. It's been going on since yesterday and am so frustrated to the point I'm ready to give up.
I love having custom roms, but this is stupid!
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Try sticking twrp recovery image on fastboot and see if that works
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Also, make sure you have busybox installed
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jjbadd385 said:
Also, try using 4ext recovery instead of CWM. Maybe you will not get an error. Wipe data, cache & dalvik, the format everything except sdcard. Then install zip from sd (rom of your choice)
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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 4ext worked like a charm. You are freaking awesome!
Thank you to everyone else who responded to my question!
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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 4ext worked like a charm. You are freaking awesome!
Thank you to everyone else who responded to my question!
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Yup that's why I recommend it its the best. Also take any pd15img.zip files on the root of your SD card and either move it into another folder or delete it completely to avoid any similar problems from happening.
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Yup that's why I recommend it its the best. Also take any pd15img.zip files on the root of your SD card and either move it into another folder or delete it completely to avoid any similar problems from happening.
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So far loving ICS. I didn't even think to delete the file, but will do that!
shellybell said:
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 4ext worked like a charm. You are freaking awesome!
Thank you to everyone else who responded to my question!
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Any error in installing a rom I have ever heard of, 99% of the time has been from cwm recovery. I've used both, but I'd never use anything but 4ext now. Glad you're up & going again...
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