Seemless HSDP->Wireless. Or not. - Galaxy S I9000 General

er HSPA not HDPA.. If any mods see this please change the title
One of 2.2 (Froyo)'s bullet points on new features was "Seamless transition between 3G/4G and Wi-Fi". I can safely say there is no seamless transition between HSPA and WiFi.
If I am downloading something (say from the Market) and quickly engage WiFi mid-transfer it stalls. Just like every other app (many even crash or lock up and become unresponsive, or at best need to be restarted)
Can anyone confirm this? This needs to be fixed.

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WiFi Turns on by it's self.

Running Enomther's 1.5.1 + CM Himem + Next Theme 1.6.1+
Every once in a while the WiFi turns on and starts looking for networks, I always have Wifi off in general.
Anyone else have this issue?
Any ideas?
Thanks!
do you use locale?
the new version of locale turns wireless on every now and again to check for wireless networks around you and there isn't an option to turn it off sadly
Happens on my N1 with CM 5.0b4, and my gf's MT3G with CM 4.2.14.1.
I believe it is a nefarious government plot to spy on us.
Edit: Also, I don't have Locale. At least, if I do, I didn't install it and don't see it in my list of apps.
EDIT: Stupid slow internet. Unintentional. Mods, feel free to delete this.
This really doesn't have anything to do with android development..
it's possible you're running a power manager software, that will automatically turn on your wifi, or maybe a dock profile.. there's programs that can turn on your wifi, but this would be best for the general section
Pretty sure it's locale that's doing this. The beta worked fine for me without needing wifi, so I'm pretty peeved that it's a requirement for the new version.
But yeah, this should have gone in the general forum.
EDIT: Stupid internet.

Unsuitable radio or poor data services from UK mobile networks...?

Hi guys,
I don't know how many of you are living in UK or if you experience this in other parts of the world. Basically there's one thing that really annoys me and I can't figure out WHAT'S causing it!
I am well satisfied with my Leo but as to web services I am not so enthusiastic. Firstly I've given up on "My location & weather" services exactly the same way as I did on Blackstone. I just don't bother setting them up after ROM update, so they don't show up on the homescreen and I turn the weather tab off instantly after flash. Reason being: THEY ONLY UPDATE IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT FULL HSDPA OR 3G SIGNAL COVERAGE ALMOST EVERYWHERE I GO!!!
No idea why this is happening. At home where I've got full 3G and GPRS signal coverage, it updates quickly and nicely. But when I go to work where there's full HSDPA, 3G and also GPRS it will not update whatever trick I try!!! It just pops out a message about not being able to connect... Same thing in town centre and other locations. It seems totally random to me where it works and where it doesn't. And folks: I just hate having 12 hours old location and weather report on my screeen before coming back home or wherever it decides to work!
Now secondly, similar thing happens with web browsers. Because of unsupported flash in Opera I have started using Skyfire in larger scale and recently also the uZARD, if anyone came across to that. They are both good browsers (in my opinion the uZard is nearing perfection!) but strangely a similar issue to the one above comes with them. Again they only seem to work in certain places and again there is quite a decent data coverage almost everywhere in my area.
So the question is: does it have something to do with data services of my network (UK Orange) or is it something radio related maybe? I have tried 2.06, 2.08 and 2.10 radios and there wasn't any significant difference.
Does it ring a bell? Did anyone experience this?
morningstar.fallen said:
Hi guys,
I don't know how many of you are living in UK or if you experience this in other parts of the world. Basically there's one thing that really annoys me and I can't figure out WHAT'S causing it!
I am well satisfied with my Leo but as to web services I am not so enthusiastic. Firstly I've given up on "My location & weather" services exactly the same way as I did on Blackstone. I just don't bother setting them up after ROM update, so they don't show up on the homescreen and I turn the weather tab off instantly after flash. Reason being: THEY ONLY UPDATE IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT FULL HSDPA OR 3G SIGNAL COVERAGE ALMOST EVERYWHERE I GO!!!
No idea why this is happening. At home where I've got full 3G and GPRS signal coverage, it updates quickly and nicely. But when I go to work where there's full HSDPA, 3G and also GPRS it will not update whatever trick I try!!! It just pops out a message about not being able to connect... Same thing in town centre and other locations. It seems totally random to me where it works and where it doesn't. And folks: I just hate having 12 hours old location and weather report on my screeen before coming back home or wherever it decides to work!
Now secondly, similar thing happens with web browsers. Because of unsupported flash in Opera I have started using Skyfire in larger scale and recently also the uZARD, if anyone came across to that. They are both good browsers (in my opinion the uZard is nearing perfection!) but strangely a similar issue to the one above comes with them. Again they only seem to work in certain places and again there is quite a decent data coverage almost everywhere in my area.
So the question is: does it have something to do with data services of my network (UK Orange) or is it something radio related maybe? I have tried 2.06, 2.08 and 2.10 radios and there wasn't any significant difference.
Does it ring a bell? Did anyone experience this?
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I'm on o2 I'm and have found the new 2.10th radios to give an extra bar and speed improvements network wise. the latest is awesome but consumes more battery life for me so i went back to 2.10.50.08.2
hope this helps
Im on Virgin in the UK, where i live i have full signal where ever i i am in my town, my location doesn't work simple, i added my own city, my internet works fine, now i have been house sitting for my dad for 2 weeks in a little village, 2 weeks only just had 1 bar of signal and my location worked now wtf is that all about lol, oh my radio in my sig
Im on tmobile uk and when I'm at home I'm lucky if I get 1 bar of 3g coverage, if I dont I'll only get 2 bars of gprs, then again we are behind a ruddy great hill, most other urban areas give good 3g, however like the OP says sometimes theres an issue with speed and location not updating (or updating to the wrong location) despite full coverage
My gf is on vodafone and at home shes lucky if she gets one bar of gprs
But then thats what she deserves for having a iphone!
I've never tried another radio but I'm considering it
Update
Just to let you guys know, UK Orange was going through some major technical difficulties with their 3G network lately. So that has been the cause for trouble with browsers.
But the first problem I've mentioned is a fact that MY LOCATION and WEATHER still only updates on certain (random) places, regardless the signal coverage or radio version!!!
Works fine for me wherever I go on O2 as long as I have somes signal, just takes longer on GPRS.
In my experience of friends on Orange, they've never been good.
Try SPB weather and see if that works.
Alternatively, try updating in an Orange shop, if it fails, ask if you can use one of their handsets to try, and if that works, you'll know it's a problem with your phone so time to get it replaced, if it doesn't work, you'll know Orange are just poo.
Weather Locations has never worked for me. Just look for the cab named something like Dutty's disable current location and it will remove that my location entry in the weather so it will never bother you. Then just manually add your city and job done!
As for the web browsers not working, i had intermittent drops (its ok now tho). but what i did before, was disable HDSPA. the phone kept switching betweeen 3g and hdspa and cudnt make its mind up, and so it wouldnt connect to the net. But as you said Orange have been messing up so it should work soon.
morningstar.fallen said:
Just to let you guys know, UK Orange was going through some major technical difficulties with their 3G network lately. So that has been the cause for trouble with browsers.
But the first problem I've mentioned is a fact that MY LOCATION and WEATHER still only updates on certain (random) places, regardless the signal coverage or radio version!!!
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I have to ask how often is it set to update? i have mine set to update every 3 hours and it does. The location accuracy can be a little off at times but i don't really rely on it and if i do notice i'll do a manual update which works first time 99% of the time.
Poor 3G/HSDPA signal (2 bars or less) will cause some crazy packet loss and will cause problems with internet connectivity in general. Most often the phone will fall back to EDGE and then GPRS in order to correct this (but for saking the speed). If the signal is still crap then there is no hope. I'm on O2 and my radio version is in my signature. I was using 2.07 (stock) and that wasn't brilliant and i have heard that the newer radios suck the battery and the wifi isn't so great.
If your signal is pants even with the new radio i would advise you lay your hands on an extended battery and leave the wifi chip turned on. Then if you configure to connect any unsecure networks first as soon as it finds one you'll have net access.
M3PH said:
I have to ask how often is it set to update? i have mine set to update every 3 hours and it does. The location accuracy can be a little off at times but i don't really rely on it and if i do notice i'll do a manual update which works first time 99% of the time.
Poor 3G/HSDPA signal (2 bars or less) will cause some crazy packet loss and will cause problems with internet connectivity in general. Most often the phone will fall back to EDGE and then GPRS in order to correct this (but for saking the speed). If the signal is still crap then there is no hope. I'm on O2 and my radio version is in my signature. I was using 2.07 (stock) and that wasn't brilliant and i have heard that the newer radios suck the battery and the wifi isn't so great.
If your signal is pants even with the new radio i would advise you lay your hands on an extended battery and leave the wifi chip turned on. Then if you configure to connect any unsecure networks first as soon as it finds one you'll have net access.
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Hi,
It was set to update every 1 hour and as I said before, there's quite decent signal coverage in my area. I usually have full HSDPA and 3G signal at work and about half of 3G and full GPRS at home. The only time I can think of when I have poor or no connection is on the train (when passing through places with funny welsh names like Llanharran or Pontyclun... ). Still MY LOCATION won't update at work, or central train station or city centre. As a paradox, it updates nicely at home...
Anyway, for sake of having the weather animation on and updating, I have used Dutty's "Disable current location" cab mentioned above. Now the weather service updates fine on manually chosen locations. So bye bye MY LOCATION...
I'm on O2 (UK) and have noticed that all but my local transmitter actually allows weather/location updates.
I did a pretty big test - I drove from the south coast to Edinburgh the other week, and had it updating every 15 mins.
It updated every step of the way.
I'm sitting at home, and it doesn't update.
I've already got hold of my local O2 engineer and he is looking into it as he thinks he knows what the problem is.
The Problem is Orange.....
morningstar.fallen said:
Hi guys,
I don't know how many of you are living in UK or if you experience this in other parts of the world. Basically there's one thing that really annoys me and I can't figure out WHAT'S causing it!
I am well satisfied with my Leo but as to web services I am not so enthusiastic. Firstly I've given up on "My location & weather" services exactly the same way as I did on Blackstone. I just don't bother setting them up after ROM update, so they don't show up on the homescreen and I turn the weather tab off instantly after flash. Reason being: THEY ONLY UPDATE IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT FULL HSDPA OR 3G SIGNAL COVERAGE ALMOST EVERYWHERE I GO!!!
No idea why this is happening. At home where I've got full 3G and GPRS signal coverage, it updates quickly and nicely. But when I go to work where there's full HSDPA, 3G and also GPRS it will not update whatever trick I try!!! It just pops out a message about not being able to connect... Same thing in town centre and other locations. It seems totally random to me where it works and where it doesn't. And folks: I just hate having 12 hours old location and weather report on my screeen before coming back home or wherever it decides to work!
Now secondly, similar thing happens with web browsers. Because of unsupported flash in Opera I have started using Skyfire in larger scale and recently also the uZARD, if anyone came across to that. They are both good browsers (in my opinion the uZard is nearing perfection!) but strangely a similar issue to the one above comes with them. Again they only seem to work in certain places and again there is quite a decent data coverage almost everywhere in my area.
So the question is: does it have something to do with data services of my network (UK Orange) or is it something radio related maybe? I have tried 2.06, 2.08 and 2.10 radios and there wasn't any significant difference.
Does it ring a bell? Did anyone experience this?
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I had the same problem in East Anglia with Orange
Switch of 3g and the weather will update
GPRS data works fine, but 3g/hsdpa data was not working i complained to orange and looked on the net loads of other people in this area were having the same trouble....(voice was fine though)
About 2 weeks ago it started working fine except when im surfing i get 'orange safeguard' blocking sites ...it even blocks this site!
its not because ive got safeguard enabled. it's because orange cant establish my identity!
I bet if streamed loads of TV they would identify me for sure...
on orange in cardiff aswel, i find that even though i have a strong 3g signal some times the internet just doesn't work,which gets really annoying, as normally have to terminate the 3g connection then restart it to work.
been reading this thread if any intrest
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614119&page=45
it says about people using the chucky tabtastic ROM, and the problem is gone. but I'm happy with the ROM I'm using, so really wish i knew a fix for this!
On O2 in Nottingham and just recently it's been awful.
I've gone through a multitude of radios and none work with data properly. Weather services always show "My Location" or cannot update. Google maps takes about 10mins to load one square of the map (so GPS navigation is out of the question as the marker moves to a region of the map that isn't updated and takes forever to load).
Opera can now take anywhere between 15 seconds and 5 minutes just to load the Google homepage.
Thing is, about 2 months ago it was perfect, speedy as anything, running fine. Like I said i've gone through various radio roms and have settled on 2.10.50.08_2 at the mo as it gives the best battery life for me, but even with full 3g/hsdpa signals i get rubbish data performance.
I know that stopping and starting the data connection sometimes fixes it, but I'm not prepared to continually stop and start connections just to be able to browse the web.
I've tried switching from 3G to 2G mode at work so the device started using GPRS signal instead of HSDPA but there was no joy either. Initially I would incline to idea that this would be a problem of Orange UK only but it seems now that people using other networks are experiencing the same. I wish I could only guess how much of this is caused by the technical breakdown Orange UK (and maybe other networks?) were recently going through. I think the actual efficiency of MY LOCATION service in UK was never great...
I'm on Vodafone, Kingston upon Thames,
Radio: 2.10.50.26 (Leon Rom)
Had the same problems ( almost all stated in here ) with the new radio i have full bars 70% of the time on almost all connections at home, and before, i used to have 1 max 2 (the house is in a "bad"/"blind" vodafone coverage area), so this radio seems to work for me.
Still:
the weather i won't mention that it never worked regardless of signal or not, regardless of the connection or radio... then i found something into the menu under the GPS folder... called Quick GPS . I realized that is not a data download problem (as any manually set out location works), it was just a simple "i will tell you the local weather info as soon as i bloody find out where the heck we are" phone problem.
Well all you have to do, is set up the satellites to download automatically and/or update manually when you travel extreme distances... it will definitely improve location tracking as it sets the "default" satellites settings in your area, and to be honest with you, since i set that up, i NEVER had weather/location problems at home or anywhere else. Is just a small tweak witch you won't realize is linked directly to the location service until you open the Quick GPS thing.
For the radio, at least for vodafone users, i recommend the above one. just give it a try as it has decent battery life and a better connection, also everywhere i go i seem to have a working stable connection for data (at least for me it worked, and i do travel alot, needles to say that my laptop gets it's internet from my phone during travels, so bye bye dongle ).
Give it a try, it may really work out.
Initially I would incline to idea that this would be a problem of Orange UK only but it seems now that people using other networks are experiencing the same.
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hmm... i think is not related to networks more than it needs the network connection to download data (especially that you said the connections are working fine most of the times), location is definitely related to the GPS receiver and the GPS settings (Global Positioning System remember? witch in my book is Location ...), witch apparently on the Leos around UK are not set properly by default.
This is probably why mine works flawlessly. I set WM to use the inbuilt GPS all the time so i don't have to mess about with turning it on in google maps. I don't use QuickGPS because that is about as accurate as as dropping a brick out of a plane at 35,000ft with your eyes closed. Atleast with proper GPS it's accurate to within 20 metres.
when i had the tmobile g1, weather plugin worked almost flawlessly with only odd times it didnt update correctly. but with the hd2 ive been having the same problem recently on tmobile (was on tmobile wiwith the g1 aswell).
Im using the eu rom that allows 576mb ram .
Ive just flashed a new rom and it seems to have detected my location just fine at home. I will know tomorrow when i go to work if it upodates correctly.
DikoMike said:
I'm on Vodafone, Kingston upon Thames,
Radio: 2.10.50.26 (Leon Rom)
Had the same problems ( almost all stated in here ) with the new radio i have full bars 70% of the time on almost all connections at home, and before, i used to have 1 max 2 (the house is in a "bad"/"blind" vodafone coverage area), so this radio seems to work for me.
Still:
the weather i won't mention that it never worked regardless of signal or not, regardless of the connection or radio... then i found something into the menu under the GPS folder... called Quick GPS . I realized that is not a data download problem (as any manually set out location works), it was just a simple "i will tell you the local weather info as soon as i bloody find out where the heck we are" phone problem.
Well all you have to do, is set up the satellites to download automatically and/or update manually when you travel extreme distances... it will definitely improve location tracking as it sets the "default" satellites settings in your area, and to be honest with you, since i set that up, i NEVER had weather/location problems at home or anywhere else. Is just a small tweak witch you won't realize is linked directly to the location service until you open the Quick GPS thing.
For the radio, at least for vodafone users, i recommend the above one. just give it a try as it has decent battery life and a better connection, also everywhere i go i seem to have a working stable connection for data (at least for me it worked, and i do travel alot, needles to say that my laptop gets it's internet from my phone during travels, so bye bye dongle ).
Give it a try, it may really work out.
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Thanks for the post man Ive been trying many different Radios to get a stable connection with VF I also live in an iffy area so i'll give this one a try and see if it works for me!
I'm also now using a 2.13 rom so it seems that the radio will match
M3PH said:
This is probably why mine works flawlessly. I set WM to use the inbuilt GPS all the time so i don't have to mess about with turning it on in google maps. I don't use QuickGPS because that is about as accurate as as dropping a brick out of a plane at 35,000ft with your eyes closed. Atleast with proper GPS it's accurate to within 20 metres.
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So how exactly did you set your GPS to work all the time?
morningstar.fallen said:
So how exactly did you set your GPS to work all the time?
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easy! go into settings in sense, hit menu, all settings. Then go to the system folder and external GPS and set a com port (mine is set to com4)
Job done. Sense will pick it up automatically and then all you need to do is tell google maps it's configued by windows.
Finally disable quickgps by hitting start, tools quickgps and then menu options and uncheck "download quickgps automatically" and "download quickgps when roaming" this will stop it updating when not connected to the pc and save on your data plan if it's limited but allows for a backup to the true gps if for some reason all the satellites get taken out.
**edit** i picked up this tip from a collegue that had a touch pro (well we all did but i left before they got the n900 upgrades) and a tomtom external bluetooth receiver and it appears to work with the internal reveiver on newer devices

[Q] *Is anyone having problems w/ 4G and flash sites?*

Peace All,
Has anyone been having problems w/ their 4G service wherein it hangs (on loading) a site that is heavily ladened w/ FLASH (not to be confused w/ the current Gtalk and market issues)? I've tried the plug-in selections of "ON DEMAND" and even "ALWAYS" and it seems that it takes my 4G almost 3 -4 minutes (if it even loads) just to download the site fully---my 3G is actually faster . I've ran speed tests and when i'm on 4G i"m pulling 4.63 mbps down and about 1.00 mbps up---I've even checked to see if my RSA keys were intact and they were. The people (customer service) seem oblivious to this problem. Is there a fix for this?
thanks in advance for anyone's insight to this problem
-ZDK-
I don't know, I'll check mine tomorrow when I'm in a 4g area.
Problem with customer service is, they don't have a clue with anything network related. All they do is check to see how many problems similar to what a person reports as a problem and then make a note of it.
No problems with flash on 4g.
FYI - I am running AVO v9 and Flash Fix 10 so I can watch Hulu, and it worked great.
Peace,
Well i guess I'm the only one---this has happened on every ROM I've tried (Ava9 and Myn's Rsl2)---I've called Sprint and I've ran various tests to check my 4G and my RSA keys are in tact and my MAC address is cool---I also have the latest radio, prl, pri and wimax versions---I'm going back to stock---theming and custom ROM's are too much of a hassle and not worth it (most people on here appear to be sooo OBSESSED about battery life that they turn off every function of the phone so that they can brag that they havent charged in 8 days ). I use my phone to the fullest and like running 4G--since im in a 4G saturated area---all day
Thanks anyway,
-ZDK-
use flash on demand, that speeds up all your site loadings, make the browser more stable, and removes ads, unless you like ads, .
For me flash site works perfect on 4G...
only issues i have on 4g are pc related, whether im tethered or using hotspot, if the 4g dips just a little the flash video stops loading, when i get to that part the players just hang at what ever the buffer says which is usually 45% to 51% and i have to refresh and jump to the place it stopped, the overall 4g connection is very stable, i have no clue whats going on
btw would you happen to be using dolphin browser hd?? there have been a lot of comments about browser slowdown with froyo and the site has a few suggestions to help speed it up
I've actually got the exact same problem as the OP. I recently did some modifications to the wimax settings so 4g would connect faster and stay connected longer and wonder if that may have something to do with it. Otherwise I do not know what might have changed.

[Q] Data connection and other 3G problems..

Hi to all SGS2 fans out there
I'm a happy user of SGS2 but I noticed some problems during WCDMA usage. After few minutes of using 3G/HSDPA connection is still looking good on the signal bars but I'm unable to open any webpages/android market etc. I have to disable and re-enable data connection in settings to get it back working... for another couple of minutes..
Secondly I have short breakups during calls. When I'm talking to someone the phone mutes for a second. It doesn't happen every time - but it's quite often.
I'm currently using Lightning ROM 1.5 - but I had the same issues on 1.4, 1.2.
When I'm using GSM only - everything is fine.
Do you think I have a faulty unit?
I'm getting a similar issue. Currently on VillainRom 1.4. Full 3g bars but cant use browser, market, etc.
hi,i have just sign to forum now,i was looking around and seems like very populer here.
Anyway i have same problem here plus when i have 3G or HSDPA on my bar it is changing every few seconds (for example a few seconds staying 3G and a few seconds staying on HSDPA,not stable and non stop) and seems no stable and killing battery.I have already change my phone and sim for this reason under my warranty,if anyone give advise for this problem it will be really helpfull,thanks.
vojvo said:
hi,i have just sign to forum now,i was looking around and seems like very populer here.
Anyway i have same problem here plus when i have 3G or HSDPA on my bar it is changing every few seconds (for example a few seconds staying 3G and a few seconds staying on HSDPA,not stable and non stop) and seems no stable and killing battery.I have already change my phone and sim for this reason under my warranty,if anyone give advise for this problem it will be really helpfull,thanks.
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its a normal thing when some kind of background data or sync or net is active it will turn "H" and when not internet is active it will stay "3G"..
sumeshd said:
its a normal thing when some kind of background data or sync or net is active it will turn "H" and when not internet is active it will stay "3G"..
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so basicly you say "dont worry about signal changing on you bar every seconds" trhis is normal and it happen all samsung galaxy s2,am i right?

[Q] An app to gather network health statistics?

Hi all!
I'm an Android user. I use it heavily for web-based uses - browsing, streaming music and various network-enabled apps. And I'm a little disappointed. The problem appears to be a network issue, but many, if not most, of the time, I can't get a reliable data connection on my phone. GSM is totally fine - never had a dropped call or lack of reception. Just data. Even when I am in a area of strong coverage (full bars; 3G/HSPDA icon showing) I frequently am unable to do simple web access - can't open Google, or an app is unable to do light data connection (e.g. Facebook app grabbing a profile). Sometimes it works fine and when it does, it works bloody fast. But it's that unreliability that is frustrating.
Now, I'd go to my network and ***** about it but they - quite understandably - would be unable to do much about it without a more technical description of the problem. They'd just find some way to blame it on something else, as they do. What I'm looking to do is characterise the problem by gathering some stats on connection reliability. If such data could be collected, I would be able to back up a case that there's something foobarred with the network (or persuade myself that there isn't).
Question is: does such an app exist? I'm not looking for one of the many speedcheck apps; I'm looking for something I can run for a couple of days during which time it tries to make many mobile data connections. It would record success/fail, reported network strength/type, perhaps latency, connection speed and location as well. It would do so once every, say, 5 minutes, to build up a profile of how the reliably I can get my connections.
Anyone know of such an app? If not, I might write one; do you thing such data would be useful?
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