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too many negative assholes.
take the downer comments
somewhere else, thanks.
To be honest, I've never witnessed the "good old days" of Windows CE, but I think it'll be tough to get it completely working on the HD2.
Also, if we actually would succeed in porting this old version to this handset, I think we'd actually brick the solidness of the OS.. just by "pluggin in" new drivers etc.
I like the idea myself but personally, I see more potential in a Linux distro, for the HD2. For as far that's possible
Check this. It is called Menlo. How about a NT kernel on HD2?
www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/could-menlo-signal-a-change-in-microsofts-mobile-strategy/6077
Already is...
Windows Mobile 5 & 6 are already based on Windows CE5, with customization for phones. Windows Phone 7 is partially based on a Win CE 6 core, I believe, again with optimizations for phone use. So... your question is moot.
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Check this. It is called Menlo. How about a NT kernel on HD2?
www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/could-menlo-signal-a-change-in-microsofts-mobile-strategy/6077
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NT Kernel = x86
meaning not arm compatible.
some days ago i read microsoft finished new windows ce based on win7. maybe that would be an interesting port. the old windows ce is ****ty i find
Pyr0wl said:
To be honest, I've never witnessed the "good old days" of Windows CE, but I think it'll be tough to get it completely working on the HD2.
Also, if we actually would succeed in porting this old version to this handset, I think we'd actually brick the solidness of the OS.. just by "pluggin in" new drivers etc.
I like the idea myself but personally, I see more potential in a Linux distro, for the HD2. For as far that's possible
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seeing linux distro would be quite a sight, i will admit.
and yes, you're right about the solidity of the OS after plugging in drivers to fix for the speakers, screen, wifi, BT, etc..
could prove to be quite a messy situation. D:
i suppose the "solidity" i experienced was simply because the devices this OS came on were simply built for CE..
can't much built CE for the HD2 now, can we..? -.-
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Check this. It is called Menlo. How about a NT kernel on HD2?
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that's a hell of an idea right there, ikovac!
besides the harsh comments after the blog, that post has potential.
but the only problem is the x86 compatibility..
if someone could figure out a bridge between x86 and ARM builds, they'd be revolutionary!
but imagine the stability there.. fail. -.-
lungjian said:
Windows Mobile 5 & 6 are already based on Windows CE5, with customization for phones. Windows Phone 7 is partially based on a Win CE 6 core, I believe, again with optimizations for phone use. So... your question is moot.
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hate to break ya, but without severe porting, win7 won't hit the hd2. for ridiculous reasoning.
sure, it'll make it around the bend somehow, but seemingly, microsoft never wants win7 to see the hd2.
this is why i hate apple. because they control their products so carefully. please, microsoft.. don't be like apple.. D:
you know...this thing ACTAULLY has the minimum specs to run Windows 7 if you look SOLELY at numbers.
1ghz processor
16gb drive space(17 if you include the ROM space)
512mb memory
Wait....we SHOULD be trying to get XP running on this puppy LOLOL!!!!
Ultimaex said:
NT Kernel = x86
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That is quite wrong. NT kernel is on itself architecture independent and was actually written for MIPS first and ported to x86 later on. NT 3.5 ran on x86, MIPS, Alpha and PowerPC and IIRC there were some beta builds for the SPARC.
Current NT kernel works on x86, x86-64 (it is not the same as x86) and IA64.
Will you wanna use Windows 3.1 with Dos 6.22 now????
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that's a hell of an idea right there, ikovac!
besides the harsh comments after the blog, that post has potential.
but the only problem is the x86 compatibility..
if someone could figure out a bridge between x86 and ARM builds, they'd be revolutionary!
but imagine the stability there.. fail. -.-
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I think they are already porting NT kernel to ARM. I guess BSOD will look the same, right?
Bumping with a new goal!
Mkay guys, i'm bumping the thread because there should be more ideas than this going on. >.<
so, i want everyone to post thread urls to other sites that are working, in the progress, close to being done, or already been done, that relate to running OS's other than winmo6.5 on the HD2.
so please, devs and geeks alike.
show us the urls!
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Mkay guys, i'm bumping the thread because there should be more ideas than this going on. >.<
so, i want everyone to post thread urls to other sites that are working, in the progress, close to being done, or already been done, that relate to running OS's other than winmo6.5 on the HD2.
so please, devs and geeks alike.
show us the urls!
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+1 on URLs!
About Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22! There have been an Emulator for DOS for years and Windows 3.1 (not 3.11) did run under it on a PPC devices! I've recently seen a Windows 95 running on the HD2 (under some emulation but still..) who knows... maybe some day we will see a mac emutor an be able to see even panther working on the HD2!
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About Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22! There have been an Emulator for DOS for years and Windows 3.1 (not 3.11) did run under it on a PPC devices! I've recently seen a Windows 95 running on the HD2 (under some emulation but still..) who knows... maybe some day we will see a mac emutor an be able to see even panther working on the HD2!
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even if that was possible,,, there is no application development anymore on such platforms.
To use the 10% of the device for an old obsolete OS, then the rest 90% is what?
i find it completely useless. A linux port would be great.
OrionBG said:
About Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22! There have been an Emulator for DOS for years and Windows 3.1 (not 3.11) did run under it on a PPC devices! I've recently seen a Windows 95 running on the HD2 (under some emulation but still..) who knows... maybe some day we will see a mac emutor an be able to see even panther working on the HD2!
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this is quite interesting, and while it is true that it is a weak OS on a powerful phone, it's worth looking at, honestly..
post a url? =]
g30rg10u said:
even if that was possible,,, there is no application development anymore on such platforms.
To use the 10% of the device for an old obsolete OS, then the rest 90% is what?
i find it completely useless. A linux port would be great.
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yes, a linux port would be amazing.
but i've figured out why android won't be running on the htc hd2 for a while. (note: it WILL run, just not right now.. :b)
see, they haven't actually found a bootloader that can be encoded with linux, that will run on the snapdragon processor. once an android phone with a snapdragon processor comes out, they'll start decoding it and finding out what makes it tick..
then, shorty after, they will port the linux coded bootloader for the snapdragon on the hd2, and bam. instant hd2 amazingness.
see, i just wanna see ANYTHING but winmo 6.5 on this thing. i like winmo, honestly i do, but i also like having options.. :b
and thus, the struggle for the bootloader continues. xD
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this is quite interesting, and while it is true that it is a weak OS on a powerful phone, it's worth looking at, honestly..
post a url? =]
yes, a linux port would be amazing.
but i've figured out why android won't be running on the htc hd2 for a while. (note: it WILL run, just not right now.. :b)
see, they haven't actually found a bootloader that can be encoded with linux, that will run on the snapdragon processor. once an android phone with a snapdragon processor comes out, they'll start decoding it and finding out what makes it tick..
then, shorty after, they will port the linux coded bootloader for the snapdragon on the hd2, and bam. instant hd2 amazingness.
see, i just wanna see ANYTHING but winmo 6.5 on this thing. i like winmo, honestly i do, but i also like having options.. :b
and thus, the struggle for the bootloader continues. xD
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Snapdragon is not the whole thing(while EVO has been out since last week and sold on eBay?)
Work in process./
And I agree with you, that I love WIN6.5 or 6.1 but option is a good thing.
Found something! :d
check this out, guys.
i found a thread for running windows 95/95 on the HD2. =]
now, i'm thinking if they can start with the older systems, why not be able to progress up to winXP or, outlandishly, windows 7?
check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637889
ijoshv2 said:
see, they haven't actually found a bootloader that can be encoded with linux, that will run on the snapdragon processor. once an android phone with a snapdragon processor comes out, they'll start decoding it and finding out what makes it tick..
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Nexus One is using a snapdragon cpu and that phone has been out for almost half a year now.
Hi Guys
I like the design and spec of Adam but I would also need proper usability from it. By proper I mean word, excel, usb to Com cables in general Windows 7.
Would it be possible to install Windows 7 on the device and how hard would it be?
I have not see the device in action so does anyone know does it have PC style bios or more like bootloader on smartphones?
TheDeadCpu said:
That would be hard. Not impossible.
The thing is I doubt anyone will actually waste hundreds of hours to get a worse operating system running.
(I say it's worse because it's not tablet optimized)
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Not worse, just heavier because more usable as PC. For me Android is the worse one as yo have no proper apps that make it usable as PC.
As said if I could get ubuntu to run with office on it I would not think about windows 7 but I can not even do that.
Andoid main problem is the same as one on apple ipad it is a OS for phones.
Adam started out as a dual boot Linux/ Android tablet.
Have not heard anything re Linux boot for a while though.
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I seen on forum for ink that they have image for ubuntu but still no office on it.
Grr I always loved tablet idea TBH even when they were called slates.
Until late I had my HP TC1100 and was very happy but it is lucking now in performance for win7 and office 2010. Also it is so "used" now that paint is coming off.
Oh well will have to wait for a win7 dedicated tablet.
The operating system has to be ARM based meaning Windows 7 will never work (at least properly).
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The operating system has to be ARM based meaning Windows 7 will never work (at least properly).
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Well since they patented Windows 7 core to work with Arm in December one would hope that will be overcome. Apparently there will be al ighter version of Win7 for ARM based systems. Hmm we will see but fro now HP Slate 500 is the best bet.
Ubuntu for arm, meego and basicaly any linux distribution that has an arm port could end up on the adam. If you prefer a more desktop like UI plain ubuntu could work, use openoffice.
Most applications written for linux are easily ported to other CPU architectures.
tdh_andy said:
Ubuntu for arm, meego and basicaly any linux distribution that has an arm port could end up on the adam. If you prefer a more desktop like UI plain ubuntu could work, use openoffice.
Most applications written for linux are easily ported to other CPU architectures.
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Well if I wanted to use open office I wuld not ask for windows 7 would just go to ubuntu directly. Openoffice suck badly no matter what people say, if you do tons of docs, formatting and scripting in excel you need proper, real office.
Anything else I could deal with on linux just not lack of that.
I know this thread is old, but with Windows 8 (shall work on ARM) on sight, is there any chance to run that on the adam?
I'm asking cuz i'm looking for a tablet that is a) readable in straight sunlight and b) offers at least part-time Windows-capabilities.
Schattenspieler said:
I know this thread is old, but with Windows 8 (shall work on ARM) on sight, is there any chance to run that on the adam?
I'm asking cuz i'm looking for a tablet that is a) readable in straight sunlight and b) offers at least part-time Windows-capabilities.
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Only time will tell for sure. Right now we can't figure that out as there is no ARM version available. Once they make one I'm sure that people will start trying.
has anyone tried porting windows mobile in our deviced
why is the topic windows 8 port ? and you ask for windows mobile ? and why do you want to have THAT ported to an Android device ?
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WM sucks, nobody wants it
Supposedly, I don't expect Windows Mobile 8.
The Windows 8 will carry x86, x64 and ARM support. The Windows 8 dev build released is for x86 and x64 only. Windows is proprietary and closed source. No one is likely to start working on a port unless it's Microsoft themself.
And, most people try to get Android on their Windows Mobile phones. There's no demand for Windows on Android phones.
The case might be totally different for tablets though.
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Supposedly, I don't expect Windows Mobile 8.
The Windows 8 will carry x86, x64 and ARM support. The Windows 8 dev build released is for x86 and x64 only. Windows is proprietary and closed source. No one is likely to start working on a port unless it's Microsoft themself.
And, most people try to get Android on their Windows Mobile phones. There's no demand for Windows on Android phones.
The case might be totally different for tablets though.
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I have the windows 8 32bit beta on one of my old laptops apart from running a few programs linux or android cant its beyond useless!!!!!
Linux was multiuser from the start and because of microsofts monopoly cross platform from the start also open source
Android linux based with a cute face thrown on
Microsoft single user interface a DOS operating enviroment remember 3.0?? it didnt even start as an o/s then over the years tried to morph into 2 things it wasnt multi user and cross platform
Windows 8 is windows seven with a start menu that looks like a flash back to a 1980's resturant menu and blocky as hell
Personally i think they should stick to what there good at desktops and nothing else and even then linux and apple are gonna kill em off sooner or later
Think about it seriously 3 yes 3 big fat flops 3 crap releases 3 failures IN A ROW!!!!! now if apple or linux had done that microsoft would have criticised the **** out of the devs for not having foresight etc etc when will people give them crap they have more money then my whole country and they push out this FML
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well android to wm7 not likely but wm7 to android hell yeah!!! talk about htc hd2
Would it be possible to use windows 8 on our android phone like we made ubuntu work? or even make it a custom rom??
With ubuntu we pretty much just mount the .img and connect to it with vnc right? couldnt we do the same with the dev. preveiw of windows 8?
Certainly hope so. There is always virtual machines.
Or you can install teamviewer like some dumb people pretent to use windows on iPad and iPhone
This would be fun to mess around with if this could be done.
Well, once/if the ARM version gets publicly released, then it should in theory be possible.
immewnity said:
Well, once/if the ARM version gets publicly released, then it should in theory be possible.
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I doubt it, android uses a totaly diffrent bootloader structure and partition layout to windows based phones, it also uses a diffrent file system, i wouldnt like to brick my nand chip by trying to format it in fat/ntfs
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AndroHero said:
I doubt it, android uses a totaly diffrent bootloader structure and partition layout to windows based phones, it also uses a diffrent file system, i wouldnt like to brick my nand chip by trying to format it in fat/ntfs
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i think so, win 8 is so complicate to install it on an android phone
unless something very unexpected happens, it will be impossible.
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21264932#post21264932
mtmerrick said:
unless something very unexpected happens, it will be impossible.
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21264932#post21264932
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trh1341 said:
Would it be possible to use windows 8 on our android phone like we made ubuntu work? or even make it a custom rom??
With ubuntu we pretty much just mount the .img and connect to it with vnc right? couldnt we do the same with the dev. preveiw of windows 8?
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From my perspective,android is still linux but a simplified mobile version..i guess that is why it was possible to port ubuntu to work on it.
As regards windows 8 ,i really think it is impossible due to the hardware specs nd libraries.
Windows 8 hardware specs have been released today and Engadget reported
Controversially, ARM-based tablet users won't be able to deactivate secure booting and (therefore) install another operating system. Clearly that's not gone down well with people -- and a straw poll of our editors agreed
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Source
I don't know what effect that'll have on installing Win8 on an Android tablet but it sounds discouraging.
smitty5569 said:
Windows 8 hardware specs have been released today and Engadget reported
Source
I don't know what effect that'll have on installing Win8 on an Android tablet but it sounds discouraging.
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pretty much that loading android (or anything else) onto a W8ARM tablet will be near impossible
Zibams said:
From my perspective,android is still linux but a simplified mobile version..i guess that is why it was possible to port ubuntu to work on it.
As regards windows 8 ,i really think it is impossible due to the hardware specs nd libraries.
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i think like you.. android is linux.. remember that
Might be possible after win 8 starts supporting ARM.
Meanwhile have you guys seen windows 7 embedded compact which already supports ARM...is that a possibility on Android phones?!!
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is it
is it happening
it seems to be impossible , coz maybe it needs to rewrite all base drivers, and i wonder if the hardware supports it.
hopeless....i think.
739898013 said:
it seems to be impossible , coz maybe it needs to rewrite all base drivers, and i wonder if the hardware supports it.
hopeless....i think.
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Tegra3 android is one platform already used for windows8 beta arm , which was seen on ces. so its possible, but sure all drivers needs to be made or compiled for arm cpu.
and it is said that bootloader will contain encrypted keys to boot windows somehow, i do not know the complete story here, probably a BIOS edition like on regular pc's.
hopeless, not at all. just look at iMac when it started on x86, we had their OS on non-mac's and their hardware was dualbooting win7/MacOS.
it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?
joao12ferreira said:
it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?
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i doubt thats possible without drivers and an arm compiled windows.
you have probably seen a remotedesktop like SplashTop for android shown.
OS Run
joao12ferreira said:
it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?
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As far as i know all this OS are running on virtual machine, so... it's laggy, it works only with standart drivers, so there is no any hardware acceleration. I think some people will keep trying to port Win8, but as other says, it can be very hard, mb cotulla can, he know Win7 embedded core, so it can be like Win8 core. And another one peace - as i know Win8 for tablets and PCs will be same, but WP8 will have another core part.
Hi All,
Has anyone tried to load Windows XP or Windows 7 on the Nexus 10. I know that this could be done due to several articles found even on this forum that this could be done, but I was wondering if anyone tried this on the Nexus 10. See this link for further details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139694
I've also heard that the Bosch isn't working on jellybean. Can someone confirm this please?
At the moment, I can't try this out is my Nexus 10 is still being delivered.
Thanks for your time!!
Why, just why.
fixyourtech said:
Why, just why.
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I was going to try and install visual studio...
Edit:
I'm open to ideas on this one. For example, I know that windows 7/8 could be run from a USB drive. Can I load them from the Nexus 10? Is this even possible?
Hmm, wasn't even aware of a virtual machine being able to be ran on Android lol, this is interesting. An idea I had in the past was to install Windows 98 from aDosBox
fixyourtech said:
Why, just why.
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Why not? It's a Nexus device, running Android, your open to a lot of experimenting and customization
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Hmm, wasn't even aware of a virtual machine being able to be ran on Android lol, this is interesting. An idea I had in the past was to install Windows 98 from aDosBox
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I have successfully booted to Win 95 and Win 98 on an Orange San Francisco.
My final aim is to be able to use visual studio though...
This would run incredibly slow. I can't imagine that Visual Studio would be usable for editing much less compiling.
You really should try to learn a new ide or become comfortable with just an editor.
I do almost all of my programming over ssh. When I do have to write Microsoft programs I usually use a mix of Visual Studio and Mono Develop or vim when I'm not close to a PC.
OP DUDE!!! CANCEL THE NEXUS 10!! QUICK before its delivered!!! What you need isn't a fast and powerful flagship android device. You need the ViewSonic Viewpad 10"!!!!!!
Another idea might be to setup a dedicated computer (or a regular computer) and install Splashtop 2, and just remote control it
Cinizzz said:
Hi All,
Has anyone tried to load Windows XP or Windows 7 on the Nexus 10. I know that this could be done due to several articles found even on this forum that this could be done, but I was wondering if anyone tried this on the Nexus 10. See this link for further details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139694
I've also heard that the Bosch isn't working on jellybean. Can someone confirm this please?
At the moment, I can't try this out is my Nexus 10 is still being delivered.
Thanks for your time!!
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Get a Surface.
dalingrin said:
This would run incredibly slow. I can't imagine that Visual Studio would be usable for editing much less compiling.
You really should try to learn a new ide or become comfortable with just an editor.
I do almost all of my programming over ssh. When I do have to write Microsoft programs I usually use a mix of Visual Studio and Mono Develop or vim when I'm not close to a PC.
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Thanks for your suggestions. I like your ideas, especially ssh. Are there ready made applications for that or you're doing that through a linux os?
Windows 7/8 require x86 CPUs, so you won't be able to run WinXP/7/8 natively on your Nexus 10 due to the ISA differences between ARM SoCs and Intel/AMD x86 CPUs, plus you won't find any drivers for the integrated ARM components. Windows RT is designed to run on ARM-based tablets (like the Surface), but I'd be surprised if you could get it running well (if at all) on any Android tablet- it's not open source and not meant to be modified by the community. If it weren't for the locked bootloader, I believe it would be much easier to start with an RT tablet and port Android to it, but that's not a possibility.
As far as running Visual Studio natively, your best bet is to use RDP (remote desktop), VNC, or similar (Splashtop) to connect to a separate PC. I have actually done this with my HP touchpad as well as my Atrix (via webdock).
Or if you're willing to forgo Microsoft completely, you could wait to see if there's any progress for Ubuntu on the Nexus 10. If Ubuntu can be loaded, you could use the package manager to install development tools like gcc, Eclipse, etc. I know there's plenty of Ubuntu ports for the Tegra3 tablets (Nexus7, Asus Transformer, etc), but whether the Ubuntu community embraces the Exynos processor (inside the N10) remains to be seen.
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I forgot to answer your original question: Bosch is SLOOOOW, since it's virtualizing the x86 hardware on top of ARM. I remember trying to run Windows 98 on my Nexus One and it was practically unusable (but still cool). I would imagine that the A15 processor is several times faster than the old single-core scorpion core in my N1, but still not fast enough to make Windows7 work, and certainly not fast enough to make compiling something in VS.NET worthwhile.
A cheap (<$200) Atom-based netbook will run Win7/8 much better than the N10.
corneliusm said:
Windows 7/8 require x86 CPUs, so you won't be able to run WinXP/7/8 natively on your Nexus 10 due to the ISA differences between ARM SoCs and Intel/AMD x86 CPUs, plus you won't find any drivers for the integrated ARM components. Windows RT is designed to run on ARM-based tablets (like the Surface), but I'd be surprised if you could get it running well (if at all) on any Android tablet- it's not open source and not meant to be modified by the community. If it weren't for the locked bootloader, I believe it would be much easier to start with an RT tablet and port Android to it, but that's not a possibility.
As far as running Visual Studio natively, your best bet is to use RDP (remote desktop), VNC, or similar (Splashtop) to connect to a separate PC. I have actually done this with my HP touchpad as well as my Atrix (via webdock).
Or if you're willing to forgo Microsoft completely, you could wait to see if there's any progress for Ubuntu on the Nexus 10. If Ubuntu can be loaded, you could use the package manager to install development tools like gcc, Eclipse, etc. I know there's plenty of Ubuntu ports for the Tegra3 tablets (Nexus7, Asus Transformer, etc), but whether the Ubuntu community embraces the Exynos processor (inside the N10) remains to be seen.
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I forgot to answer your original question: Bosch is SLOOOOW, since it's virtualizing the x86 hardware on top of ARM. I remember trying to run Windows 98 on my Nexus One and it was practically unusable (but still cool). I would imagine that the A15 processor is several times faster than the old single-core scorpion core in my N1, but still not fast enough to make Windows7 work, and certainly not fast enough to make compiling something in VS.NET worthwhile.
A cheap (<$200) Atom-based netbook will run Win7/8 much better than the N10.
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Thanks a lot for this useful explanation!! Some sort of RDP over the web would be enough for me
According to ExtremeTech Samsung is one of the Microsoft's OEMs for Windows RT.
So, if Samsung does release a Windows RT device running on exynos 5250, there is a chance the RT binary could be loaded on Nexus 10..., no?
Why would anyone want to run Win RT on top of Android? For the great selection of Win RT apps?
It's funny, because peeps in the Surface RT forum are excitedly jabbering about getting Bluestacks so they can run Android apps. The grass is always greener on the wrong side of the fence.
Now, if someone were to get iPad apps running on Android, then you've got my interest.
Anyway, I think the grand plan for MS is to get apps to run on all three of their platforms, PC, tab, and phone. The PC will drive app development, and hopefully those apps will also work on the smaller devices. It's kind of Android in reverse, where phones are driving development for tablets--well, in theory at least. The diff is that Android is entrenched in phones, while MS still can't get traction anywhere in mobile.
Windows RT doesn't support Active Directory so it's more or less useless in the corporate environment.
But one reason I would still be interested in running RT on Nexus 10 is it's powerful RT Office 2013 suite.
Of course, MS is working on Office for Android. Hopefully, it will be released soon.
advShor said:
According to ExtremeTech Samsung is one of the Microsoft's OEMs for Windows RT.
So, if Samsung does release a Windows RT device running on exynos 5250, there is a chance the RT binary could be loaded on Nexus 10..., no?
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Most likely if Samsung releases a Windows RT Tab, it will run with an X86 cpu, as as far as I know, what I read on Technet, Microsoft is not going to compile for anything other than X86/X64 ..
Watcher64 said:
Most likely if Samsung releases a Windows RT Tab, it will run with an X86 cpu, as as far as I know, what I read on Technet, Microsoft is not going to compile for anything other than X86/X64 ..
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Interesting... Seems Windows RT future has too many unknowns at this point.
Anyway, those who are interested in the subject, may want to check out this long MSDN thread that starts with Sinofsky letter describing, among other things, what OE partners have to do to bundle WOA (Windows-on-ARM) with their chip implementation.
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Most likely if Samsung releases a Windows RT Tab, it will run with an X86 cpu, as as far as I know, what I read on Technet, Microsoft is not going to compile for anything other than X86/X64 ..
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Windows RT is solely for ARM devices. Windows 8 is x86/x64. That said, it will take some serious hacking to get RT to run on not sanctioned devices.
Watcher64 said:
Most likely if Samsung releases a Windows RT Tab, it will run with an X86 cpu, as as far as I know, what I read on Technet, Microsoft is not going to compile for anything other than X86/X64 ..
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Windows RT = ARM. Windows 8 = x86/64.
Microsoft is relying on the confusion to market RT. It has more in common with Windows Phone 8, except with the same UI as Windows 8. None of the same capability as the desktop version- can't join a domain, no active directory support, mandated locked bootloader (no flashing other OSes), signed executables that can only be installed from the official app store. This means that there's no compatibility whatsoever with running apps and games made for previous versions of Windows (ie- no executing exe files). No ability to run Steam and your existing game library. I'm not even sure if it will connect to Samba file shares on the network natively (it may require apps like Android and iOS to do this).
In short, Microsoft crippled RT to the point where it has no real advantages over Android or iOS. Of course, it's not bad, but the Surface and other WinRT tablets are pricing themselves out of the market while relying on market confusion to catch unsuspecting [legacy] Windows users.
You can't install/run a x86 OS on a ARM processor. Not sure why anyone would want to anyways. Windows on tablets has been around for years and guess what it's a big failure. I like Windows and have a triple monitor system at home, and a dual monitor at work, and a personal ultrabook however Windows 7 and earlier were not touch friendly and made for a bad experience on touchscreen computers. If you want "Windows" on your Nexus 10 just RDP into your Windows workstation...