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Bell Vogue keeps rebooting

Hi everyone,
I have had some trouble with my Vogue. At first it simply would not turn on. I would get a red light when I plugged the phone in to charge it. I have been using my old phone for several months now. Today I went out to the nearest Bell store and it seems like anything new is going to cost in the $500 area because I still have 1 year left on my contract. So I have renewed my interest in getting my Vogue working again
The original thread describing my original problem (with the red light) is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546674
I purchased a new battery and now when I plug it in on the USB I can turn it on (no lights, red, green, or otherwise) but it does turn on. It boots up just passed the blue “Bell” splash screen and then reboots. It does this over and over again.
I am able to get into the boot loader screen by holding down the power and camera buttons and pressing the reset button.
Any ideas on what I can do? Any suggestions are welcome.
Regards,
The Fish

Reflash your rom when you get to the bootloader screen.
If you are unlocked flash nfsfan or whatever, just rename the nbh file to 'VOGUIMG.nbh' and it will flash.
If you were on stock you'll need the nbh from the stock package.

OK, here is an update
I have tried a hard-reset (press Send and End buttons at the same time and press reset button). This worked but the phone still kept rebooting. Tried the original battery, phone booted a little further up before rebooting.
I got the phone into boot loader mode and left it plugged in on the USB cable for a few minutes. This time when I rebooted I became ecstatic. I got all the way to the “align your screen” stage before hearing the “phone is dying” sound and the phone turned off. So here is what I think may have happened:
I have long lost the home charger kit. So I have, for as long as I can remember, been charging it by plugging it into a PC via the USB. This is fine except that Windows will only power the USB for the device if there is a driver installed. The device/phone looks different to Windows when it is in boot loader mode then when it is fully booted up. If the device is so dead as to not even have a flicker of life I don't think Windows sees it.
I have been doing this tonight under Linux. Linux seems to either have the driver, a more generic driver or powers the USB all the time for any device. I noticed this same behavior when charging my Moto Razr the same way. Under Linux it just worked by plugging it in. Under Widows I had to install the driver. So maybe here is what happened.
The battery got SO dead that it was not able to boot the phone up far enough for Windows on the PC to see it, recognize it and begin powering the USB port. Perhaps leaving the phone in bootloader mode and plugged into a Linux box got the battery a little more charged till I got to the point of being able to align the screen.
Anyway, I am more then ever convinced that this is some kind of battery/power issue. The phone is now lying here powered up and charging (already at 20%). The carrier customizations ran, rebooted while I crossed my fingers, and came back up. I even called *BELL and got a message about activating my phone. Tomorrow if the phone is charged up and behaving normally I will get an ESN change done and be back in the world of decent smartphones. Man have I ever missed my Google Maps
The next step is to flash a more up-to-date ROM... if I dare mess with a good thing.
The Fish

Atrix died after flashing 1.2.6 by RSLite

Hi all,
I following the instruction on the forum and try to root my Atrix by gredroot.
I follow the instruction downgrading my Atrix from 1.5.7 to 1.2.6 by RSLite. However, the program showed me "Failed" during the process, then my atrix ran into Black Screen, and can not turn on now, no responds at all.
The signal light is on when I plug into the computer, but the PC can not detect the device.
What I can do?

did your battery die during the flash? your battery will not charge while it's flashign so if it was low, there is a possibility it died because of that.

How was the battery? Plug it into a wall socket to charge.

I dont think that is the battery, I do the process while the device has 85% charged, but the whole process from start to died take an hour, I dont know. SO What I can do now?

try to flash it again. start from the beginning, take sim and memory card out, hold volume up while holding power button until rsd screen appears. if this doesnt work take the battery out, hold volume down while holding power button, when screen comes on press volume down until you see rsd option, then press volume up, now flash using rsd as usual

Thx guys, it is working, just cant charge from the computer, but work with wall outlet, I will try to flash 1.2.6 again

[Q] Have a brick...at least for the night

I tried wiping my phone before I went from 3 to 3.1 gingerblur. Know I didn't have to just wanted to clean it up...bad idea. If you get that bright idea do yourself a favor and slap yourself instead! Now it will boot sometimes to give me the option to choose launcher or set up and reboots quickly after. Was going to flash with RSD lite but was worried battery was low so I tried plugging in but keeps booting up and now the red light is on (saying im dead) and i guess i made the right choice. Now i cant recharge to battery because when I plug in it automatically tries to boot which kills the battery. I can get a universal battery charger tomorrow but wanted to see if anyone had any ideas. I've searched forums and google but to nothing useful.
[EDIT] I know to charge up and how to flash...not my first rodeo =D thanks for replies though!i!
Right now im charging my batterey with a universal charger at Radio Shack(Cat # 23-972) and it's charging. Brought my laptop & HDD with RSD installed (v5.x) and proper drivers. Just playing the waiting game... Will update, just hope it helps someone else at this point.

Download RSD Life, 1.83 sbf, and flash jing that method. How to's are in the Dev Secetion.
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Without a question - CHARGE IT FIRST!! Otherwise it will be a brick not just for the night

Thanks guys but I know how to flash and I know to charge the battery. Just seeing if theres a way to charge without auto booting or if anyone had ideas. I'm sure I'll be fine just wanted to check...it's hard going a night without a my phone ^_^

Ok, maybe a stupid noobie observation, but can't you just charge with the power off?

turn phone on without plugging in and hold the down button (i think its the right one) so you get the boot options (dont choose any), than plug it in and it should recharge i think (not sure tho), second thought, try that one first tho, put battery out for 10 mins than back in and start charging.

RSD read my device!
crnkoj said:
turn phone on without plugging in and hold the down button (i think its the right one) so you get the boot options (dont choose any), than plug it in and it should recharge i think (not sure tho), second thought, try that one first tho, put battery out for 10 mins than back in and start charging.
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awesome! thanks! Never read about all those options!
I'm having a devil of a time getting RSD to pick up my device. Have access to another atrix so I know its not the device. Im in rsd mode, drivers and rsd 5.3.x strait from gititbia.ch[ http://gitbrew.org/atrix/?sort=tag ], in win 7 Ive ran as admin, tried every cable (my nexus one cable worked last time), tried starting rsd first then plugged in phone, vis-averse, loaded file first/last, tried running file from desktop and C:/ ,EVERYTHING. I know I'll get it but what a PITA. Last time I used XP machine and I have the same problem, and I had the problem the first time I flashed but it was a stupid rsd-newb mistake. Just gotta keep trying, but I've read just about everything Google gave me and I have no idea WTF's up? thanks for all replies BTW...
[EDIT] Oh and windows, under devices and printers, shows NS FLash Olympus as a device!? ARRGG....Finally got it on XP machine dwith RSD 5.3 and nexus one usb cord

Try rebooting your comp, than start rsd on the comp and let it load, meanwhile start the phone in rsd mode, than connect to usb, thats what works for me. And copy the sbf file to your c:/flash or so, so that its on the system drive + short and basic directory name.

[Q] softbricked with no info

Ok my buddy has an atrix 4g for ATT. he 'said' he was in cwm and loading a rom and now its softbricked. though i am familiar with droid, after reading recovery threads and everything, im still unsure of my resolution. most threads tell me i need an unlocked bootloader, others say not to flash if you were on this version. Honestly i have no idea if the BL is locked, what version or update he was on. at the moment it says failed to boot, starting RSD mode, battery is too low to flash.
A. will it charge while it says that or how should i charge it in this state?
B. after it does charge, what should i flash to it?
I apologize that i dont have much information. you have no idea how long it took me to find the power button lol. I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks

You definitely need to get more information from him before you can do anything. If his bootloader wasn't unlocked, then he was likely trying to flash one of the P-Roms like Greyblur or Gingerblur, in which case your solution will be a lot messier since the only way I remember accessing recovery back then was by using Tenfar's CWM app that reset it to recovery w/ a wall charger.
As for charging the phone, I don't recommend keeping it on and plugged in, in the chance that it doesn't charge and you are left with a dead battery. When the phone is completely off and you plug the charger in, do you see the charging battery?

When the phone is plugged into the wall charger it boots up automatically and says failed to boot 1, starting rsd, battery too low to flash. If I plug it into my pc the green power light turns on but nothing else happens. I never get any pictures on screen. No battery and no motorola logo. He was on 2.3.4 but he took his sd so I couldn't see what he was trying to flash. I will try to get more info
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Same thing happened to me, and I can assure you it doesn't charge in that state. I have to find a way to charge the battery now... It is 0% dead. I hope I can use RSD Lite to fix it when it is charged.

alright, what happened was his battery was too low to finish the flash. it died halfway through, and now the phone is in some sort of limbo state that is just completely unusable.
but, if you have a spare USB cable you can fix this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ6JNCvIe8k
just watch that video, and let your phone charge for about half an hour to 45 minutes. after that, reflash the pudding .sbf with rsdlite (unless you can boot into recovery, then you can just reflash any ROM)

If you can boot the phone into recovery by holding the volume down key when powering on, then simply find the alien rom, save onto your SD card from the PC, then install in recovery...then you should be able to reboot into a working phone and charge. If you can't boot into recovery, and the phone is stuck on the "starting rsd protocol" screen, than...I think its a paper weight, but I could be wrong.

Although this problem could probably be fixed by an earlier post, I'm curious....
what would happen if you plugged it into the wall charger, let it boot up into the boot loop, then pulled the battery, left it out for 30 seconds, then put it back in. (this is without unplugging it from the wall charger). Does it allow the phone to stay off and charge, or does it still automatically boot up? Just curious.

im gonna look at the youtube video. ive got a D3 and i saw where a kid had cut a usb cable and made something work for 30 minutes and was able to flash again, but i was def trying to avoid that lol. also, there is no loop really. it doesnt restart, it just sits there. when the battery is pulled, it still stays on the same screen and never powers off until the charger is removed. i may see if i can get a new battery. i really apprecaite the feedback

Phalanx7621 said:
Although this problem could probably be fixed by an earlier post, I'm curious....
what would happen if you plugged it into the wall charger, let it boot up into the boot loop, then pulled the battery, left it out for 30 seconds, then put it back in. (this is without unplugging it from the wall charger). Does it allow the phone to stay off and charge, or does it still automatically boot up? Just curious.
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It will not charge in this state

well my only option at this moment is to try the usb trick. im trying to strip the wire and hook it to the connector on the phone and then just smash teh battery on top of it, but i have no idicator light, so i dont know if its charging. would it charge if i tape/rig/solder it to the battery itself and not have it in the phone? i really dont wanna try a wall outlet charger

I am going to splice a cable and report back with results. My only other option is to charge the battery in my friend's Droid X
If that fails, to AT&T I go.

i havent been able to get it to charge through the usb using the red and black wires. i was very careful and have a decent set of tools to work with. he can buy the external battery charger for $30 if he'd like. im not really sure what else to do at this point.

[Q] Droid X Repair

My Droid X just stopped working one day. I believe it is due to a failed OTA update.
Either way, the phone is unresponsive. When I plug the phone into my computer via USB the green LED light comes on. However, pressing the power button does not do anything. I have tried to put it into recovery mode, and flash mode, but to no avail.
Any suggestions on how to repair this phone?
Is there a way I can wire the USB cable into my serial port and force a reflash using an SBF to repair the bootloader?

Sd shadow put together an excellent list of links.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Goawxdx_UBF4Y8lqzHYWf8Ha3yUcRK4faq0UWIlXLWA/mobilebasic?pli=1
Its been a long time for me but sounds like you have hard bricked.
So you csnnot get into recovery at all?
sent from my T.A.R.T.I.S
(Time And Relative Tarts In Space)

Unfortunately, I can't get no response from it except the green LED.
When I first plug it in to the computer sometimes my computer will quickly pick it up and then a second later it disappears as a USB device.
The screen nor does the backlight come on.
When I press and hold the power button the green LED will go off and not come back on until the battery is popped out, and then put back in.
Do anyone know where I can find information about the jtag points on the phone, and then at that point flash it?

Hope this helps ya.
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/manual.php?id=152
sent from my T.A.R.T.I.S
(Time And Relative Tarts In Space)

sounds like
1. battery is dead
2. software/ firmware is corrupt, and will not charge battery
solution
1. get a Battery Charger for Motorola Droid X or a TBH’s Motorola Factory Cable Adaptor
2. flash sbf with rsd lite or ezSBF