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Does anyone has a clue about when Froyo will be available for Aria?
I'm not holding my breath for update from AT&T!
saint168 said:
I'm not holding my breath for update from AT&T!
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I am hoping we'll be able to port the Legend Rom with a great deal of success once it is available. I will be looking into an unbranded 2.1 Legend ROM port for the Aria next.
eh it was just released... wouldn't expect to hear about a 2.2 release for at least a few months probably more.
Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet. after that, HTC will need to port SenseUi for it. HTC did say all 2.1 devices released this year should expect a 2.2 update.
Probably not until AT&T figures out how to remove tethering from it.
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Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet. after that, HTC will need to port SenseUi for it. HTC did say all 2.1 devices released this year should expect a 2.2 update.
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As saint168 said, I wouldn't hold your breath. What will happen is HTC will say "we expect a Froyo update for the Aria by Christmas!" and then the day before Christmas they will say "We expect a Froyo update for the Aria by the end of February!" and then we won't see an update except in Taiwan in June.
I am going by the official Eclair update for the GSM Hero of course.
attn1 brought up a factor, as most likely we will be seeing mostly stable 2.2 Roms within the next six months or so for the Aria that will probably make the frustrations of any promised official update increase.
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Probably not until AT&T figures out how to remove tethering from it.
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Or perhaps not remove it outright, but to figure out how to make it billable to the tune of extra $20 per month on top of "DataPro" data plan, as they've done it with iPhone 4/iOS4.
Android 2.2 Froyo will definitely for Aria but i don't count on AT&T. I want a clean Froyo and not At&T B.S. in there
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Android 2.2 Froyo will definitely for Aria but i don't count on AT&T. I want a clean Froyo and not At&T B.S. in there
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cyanogen has said he's porting to the MT3GS, which is nearly identical to the Aria. That WILL be ported to the Aria.
AOSP Froyo 2.2 - cyanogen style. Everyone and their all their brothers will be taking a crack at that port - including me.
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cyanogen has said he's porting to the MT3GS, which is nearly identical to the Aria. That WILL be ported to the Aria.
AOSP Froyo 2.2 - cyanogen style. Everyone and their all their brothers will be taking a crack at that port - including me.
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Will this be a dump of the official update for the MT3GS or is there a port that's being used. Also, if this is a pre-existing port then what kind of features should we expect to not work by the time it hits Aria (like camera, 3D acceleration, gps, and sound)?
By the way ... my Aria is now in my state so hopefully will be playing with it in an hour or two.
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Will this be a dump of the official update for the MT3GS or is there a port that's being used. Also, if this is a pre-existing port then what kind of features should we expect to not work by the time it hits Aria (like camera, 3D acceleration, gps, and sound)?
By the way ... my Aria is now in my state so hopefully will be playing with it in an hour or two.
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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Man this is like night and day coming from the Xandroid community (new android features seem to take months to develop).
I too prefer AOSP which I used on the Xandroid builds (tested on my Pure) and I had Launcher Pro installed which I think is LEAGUES better than Sense.
I'm extremely excited to learn more about flashing android roms. Don't know anything about it yet but I saw Aria's already been rooted.
I do appreciate the WVGA of the Pure but this Aria really isn't THAT different in quality (seems more colorful though). Gotta get a screen protector from AT&T ... will have to wade through crowds of iPhone sheep no doubt.
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AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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When you say ported, does that mean I can rewrite my phone replacing Sense? Because I don't just want to have Froyo AND Sense and just have sense disabled and hiding in the background.
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When you say ported, does that mean I can rewrite my phone replacing Sense? Because I don't just want to have Froyo AND Sense and just have sense disabled and hiding in the background.
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I think you're confusing Android 2.2 (FroYo) with HTC's user interface (Sense).
cyanogenmod is based on pure AOSP code - no Sense UI.
I just completed a port of a MyTouch3G rom to the Aria. Wifi doesn't work, and my touch keys don't work. I am sure those are simple fixes. Eugene probably has answers to some of those issues, but it stands to reason that when CM 6 is released for the MTS3G, we can begin work on a port for the Liberty (Aria).
Froyo runs... it's just a matter of someone who knows what they're doing fixing all of the drivers and a few other things.
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CM6 is coming soon I think!
"release later this weekend" ... running out of time but this is exciting.
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/sneak-peek-at-cyanogenmod-cm6-test-build-on-g1-and-nexus/
So what does the release of CM6 mean for us?
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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jznomoney- Read that
Sorry. Wrong thread.
Since the source was released I thought we would see a lot more development in aosp 2.1 roms. A lot of the devs are working on 2.2 but they are still missing a lot of features. Id kill for a fully functional 2.1 aosp rom with out sense.
Anyone else feel this way?
I wouldn't mind seeing it ported either. I used the darch port for the hero, before I retired it for the Evo. Loved it.
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I would love this too. Froyo is great, but I'd rather have something fully functional in AOSP. (No, if it doesn't have a working camera, it's not fully functional. Close, but no)
At least 2.1 would be good until Froyo could be perfected. I was happy with 2.1 on the hero.
I'm on the same boat as you guys, until Group is 100% I'd like to see this happen.
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I think that this is what the CyanogenMod is supposed to do when it is released.
So we have been blessed with android for almost 3 years now. Out of all the different treats Google has cooked up for us which one has been your favorite and why? For me its kind of a hard question to answer straight forward. A few of you may say this question seems irrelevant but I have a feeling some of the answers may surprise you.
Cupcake/doughnut was my first experience and brought us by far the best battery life.
Eclair kind of began to bring some much needed aesthetics to android.
Froyo gave us the glorious flash!!!!
Gingerbread.... still trying to figure out the point of that update, or at least why its a different version name
Honeycomb could have been the ****, but imho was rushed out way to soon.
I really liked eclair on the Droid
wheres the option for windows mobile. haha just kidding
Froyo
I started with Froyo as my first Android OS and I loved it coming from Blackberry. Well since GB came out I figured I would give it a try since i've heard alot of good things about it... I've tried it a couple of times now but in the end I always go back to Froyo (mysense).. I know alot of people say it's heavy and slow but the setup I've got thanks to the Royal team it seems no slower than any GB rom i've tried... I like GB ok, if i do decide to stick with GB as my daily driver it will probably be Royal Ginger I really like what they've done with that one...
I have to say that my favorite variant of Android is 2.3 AOSP. B L A Z I N G fast and really slim. Just gets the job done without all of the fluff and puff that others bring.
iOS is nice. I own an iPod Touch. But for a daily driver i cannot live without my Android.
I switched from blackberry and might switch back if they ever make a powerhouse phone withstand he big form factor....the bold touch that should be out soon might be it....I love android....but I love my bold's keyboard even more
MT4G + Royal MIUI + Faux's BFS LV kernel
Eclair was a HUGE improvement over 1.x. Froyo was a big improvement over Eclair. Gingerbread didn't bring significant improvements over Froyo for me that are worth dumping stable Froyo pure Sense (DHD) for funky Gingerbread Sense ports with problems. I want to be able to record videos. So, I guess it's Froyo for me.
Froyo runs the best on my phone
I like stock Froyo on the Droid Incredible 2
I had installed gingerbread on my myTouch 4G and now I have the G2x, and I must say, I miss gingerbread!
I have faux123's aosp gingerbread, its my daily driver as its fast and bloat free.
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I Really Like Gingerbread but we'll see about Ice Cream Sandwich
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I Really Like Gingerbread but we'll see about Ice Cream Sandwich
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Froyo was nice, a huge update from eclair, but I like the look of gingerbread.
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I have faux123's aosp gingerbread, its my daily driver as its fast and bloat free.
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+ 1 here, CM Nexus Gingerbread by faux123 is a great clean rom.
I just sold a spare Fascinate that I had to one of the guys that runs http://www.mydroidworld.com/ He has a leaked copy of the official samsung gingerbread build for the fascinate. He needed a fascinate to test it on. He told me that he will test it tonight and post all his info on his site tomorrow. Keep an eye for it. If I get any more info I will post.
I believe this with every fiber of my being. I'm banking it all on this being real. Going for broke! (vegas odds)
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its for real, here is my craigslist ad that i met him with http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mob/2444423584.html
Sweet! I have 30 large riding on this. Can't wait!
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its for real, here is my craigslist ad that i met him with http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mob/2444423584.html
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pssh i would have bought it just to get ahold of that white battery door. i could use a nice change like that.
we will see what comes of this....i mean i could say there is a unicorn in my pocket when in reality its 32 cents in change.
hoping for the best tho
It was my girlfriends phone. She likes her iphone better so I tried to get what I could for this. He ended up paying 175, I wanted 200 originally.
Sounds like he was trying to get a better deal.
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Sounds like he was trying to get a better deal.
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is that p3droid? He said he was looking for a fascinate.. He was hoping to only pay 100. I volunteered to test but I guess he decided to buy a phone. I used his stuff on my droid x. Very smart dev. I hope this works out in our favor. TBH would be good to have supporting the fascinate.
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I just sold a spare Fascinate that I had to one of the guys that runs http://www.mydroidworld.com/ He has a leaked copy of the official samsung gingerbread build for the fascinate. He needed a fascinate to test it on. He told me that he will test it tonight and post all his info on his site tomorrow. Keep an eye for it. If I get any more info I will post.
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I don't mean to sound negative with this statement. But even if this does actually happen, I just have this strange inclination that this leak will have absolutely no benefit or bearing on the development of CM7 or GB MIUI or anything else that our devs are cooking up. Official froyo brought nothing as far as added functionality to the roms of that time and I just don't see a GB leak doing it either. Samsung's proprietary code SUCKS so bad that we can't hardly do anything with it. Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms. I would rather have AOSP froyo than GB TouchWiz. I just don't want us to set ourselves up for disappointment. Anything we get out of this leak will probably be a couple steps behind where we already are.
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I don't mean to sound negative with this statement. But even if this does actually happen, I just have this strange inclination that this leak will have absolutely no benefit or bearing on the development of CM7 or GB MIUI or anything else that our devs are cooking up. Official froyo brought nothing as far as added functionality to the roms of that time and I just don't see a GB leak doing it either. Samsung's proprietary code SUCKS so bad that we can't hardly do anything with it. Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms. I would rather have AOSP froyo than GB TouchWiz. I just don't want us to set ourselves up for disappointment. Anything we get out of this leak will probably be a couple steps behind where we already are.
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I don't dev, so I really have no clue, but wouldnt a gingerbread leak at least help get mms, sensors, and gps? and possibly lead to a more stable build?
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I don't dev, so I really have no clue, but wouldnt a gingerbread leak at least help get mms, sensors, and gps? and possibly lead to a more stable build?
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Not in terms of AOSP builds, no.
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Even if it's a fully functioning GB leak, it will be TouchWiz. I mean at best we are looking at some custom TouchWiz GB roms.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying that because any official GB leak would be TouchWiz, it's worthless, which simply isn't true. A lot of us would be very happy with a Gingerbread KB or EF.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying because this is TouchWiz-based, it's worthless to everyone, which simply isn't true. A lot of people would be very happy if KB or EF were based on GB.
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Just my opinion. I hate touchwiz and after tasting CM7/MIUI and other AOSP goodness, it is pure suffering to go back to touchwiz. All I am saying is this doesn't excite me. We are trying to cut the cord of dependance from samsung/verizon for support by getting official support from Teamhacksung and Cyanogenmod and this leak probably won't help in the advancement of that. That is why I am not excited, but maybe and happily, I'll be proven wrong.
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How is that a bad thing? For people like me who need everything to work (MMS, etc), our ROM choices are already all TouchWiz-based. So I'd much rather have fully-functional, debloated TouchWiz GB ROMs (a la KB/EF) than no fully-functional GB at all.
It seems to me you're basically saying that because any official GB leak would be TouchWiz, it's worthless, which simply isn't true. A lot of us would be very happy with a Gingerbread KB or EF.
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I am one of them. I would prefer the TW GB over AOSP roms.
Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP. I'm just loving my phone's performance... knowing how Sammy did TW Froyo just makes me leery of any GB they have going on.
I have more faith in the devs here than I do in Samsung.
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Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP.
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But that's my point -- some of us need MMS to work now, not just potentially in the future, so we don't have a choice yet. If we're stuck with TouchWiz, it would at least be nice to have the latest version of the OS, whether or not it helps AOSP developement.
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Yea, sorry, I'm with kidserious. If I had a choice between AOSP now and TouchWiz, I would never go back to TouchWiz unless MMS never became functional on AOSP. I'm just loving my phone's performance... knowing how Sammy did TW Froyo just makes me leery of any GB they have going on.
I have more faith in the devs here than I do in Samsung.
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well said and a very good point. TW is an atrocity. I understand the functionality argument and the need for it in the workplace but IMO TouchWiz itself, even fully functional, isn't functional because it's trash. I think anyone who has spent a halfway decent amount of time on AOSP and can stand a few things that don't work would agree with me. But again this is just my opinion and I don't mean to offend anyone. I'm not trying to get the next generation updated touchwiz, I'm hoping to do away with TW altogether with official Cyanogenmod/Teamhacksung support. I mean, with fully functioning AOSP, who would want/need TW?
The question I have is whether or not it is TW4. I'd give it a chance if it was. Still I'd ditch it for MIUI or CM7 once they are functional.
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The question I have is whether or not it is TW4. I'd give it a chance if it was. Still I'd ditch it for MIUI or CM7 once they are functional.
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A majority of us would jump ship for an AOSP 2.2 over TW 2.3. Plus in the end as soon as it drops there will be countless threads about Ice Cream Sandwich and when it is coming.
Most casual users are just concerned with what is shiny and new, evidence is in every UKB release.
I agree with Kid, in the end it is still going to be TW and the hype machine should not take this with to much hope.
I totally agree about cutting down on unrealistic hype, so let me ask this:
What, specifically, are the end-user (not developer) differences between running the latest Voodoo'd version of UKB and the latest version of jt's CM7 that lead you to say that a TouchWiz-based rom like UKB is a nonfunctional piece of trash?
Do you think think we will ever see 4.0 or would it be time to move on.
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Yeah, certainly someone will make a rom or port it But it will probably take a long time before it runs good enough for everyday use and it will probably be a step back in performance from GB :/ But hopefully it will run okay eventually
I agree with Habarug. For now we can't tell for sure if it will or if it will not run on the Hero. Same debate was when Gingerbread sources came out... the Gingerbread was heavy on the hero, it was extremely slow for the first releases, but slowly it became faster and faster and by the latest CM releases it became extremely fast almost like Gingerbread was made for the Hero. At first ICS will be slow as **** but who knows maybe after the ICS sources come out and the devs will "cast their spells", ICS will work on our poor Hero.
Developers often do miracles!! I will pray for the 4.0 on my Hero, since I won't change phone until the new Quad-cores will come out..
Well looks like Feeyo over at the Cronos forums is going to try and get ICS on to the Hero but just like Gingerbread it will be slow for the first few build's.
if not the cpu, I would keep that phone for forever, perfect size, nice screen, resolution, colors.. Glad that it is not dead yet and new roms are coming out if not daily, then weekly. Guess there will be somebody playing on this device, hopefully will succeed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352149
It has been done! The Developers made An exelent job!
There is a ROM but itțs under full development, so you have to wait some time before you can use a stable ICS rom.
I wish all the devs good luck with the new project
Stefan
Would be awsome..
..seeing ICS on my Hero, and I am willing to try and alpha or beta test existing ics Roms for Hero, heard that there is already an Alpha4 outside which is already able to make phone calls.
Looking forward to ICS.
I think the Hero is getting to slow for ICS, it's a real challenge to bring a good ICS rom to the Hero.
I'm just flashing a new rom to my Hero.
i think every dev working on it, and will be a usable 4 ,earlier than u think
I would be suprised if they make it stable and fast enough for everyday use. But fingers crossed.
is under development, there are already 4 beta!
Although Hero is already running ICS, it doesn't mean it should.
We saw a big improvement in performance and features from 1.5 to 2.1. However, the 2.2 improvements were minor and the 2.3 are already trade-offs... some things are better and some are worse.
ICS was designed for 2+ cores and GPUs, which Hero has none.
Definitly right, but sometimes it is just great to have things which are not meant to be.
Unfortunatley the Hero is getting old, but I 'll give him the chance to savor an IceCreamSandwich at least once ;-)
i dont see why our little hero's couldnt defy logic once more
well, the alpha 4 hasn't been updated for two weeks already. It is not going that smooth as you wish for
The Alpha 5 is out already, and I find this version quite fast. I advice everyone to try it if it's not your main phone. It made me quite happy seeing it work so fast.
Ice Cream Sandwich for Hero]
I've tried Alpha 5 and must say it's really optimistic
I made a "test" of ICS on the Hero on my blog : bheller.com/2011/12/15/jai-teste-ice-cream-sandwich-sur-un-htc-hero/ (in french, sorry mates!)
Quite funny to see the Hero still on the edge