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Hey guys, XV6900 newb here trying to enable GPS...

I have been reading around and talking to friends about the Touch phone, and could use a little more assistance on enabling the GPS in my phone. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Robbie

have you upgraded to windows mobile 6.1??
if so, then go to start > settings > Phone > Services tab > make sure location setting is highlighted, click get settings >then make sure it is set to on.
that will make sure that applications are allowed to use your gps signal.
then once you have done that,
open your gps, if you use google maps you have to click menu, use gps.

I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom. My question is, does gps use data? Is the gps a real gps that connects to satellites or is it some pseudo gps that approximates my location by triangulating distances between my phone and the nearest couple cell towers? I don't have a data plan and don't want an unpleasant suprise on my next bill.

jrb_82 said:
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom. My question is, does gps use data? Is the gps a real gps that connects to satellites or is it some pseudo gps that approximates my location by triangulating distances between my phone and the nearest couple cell towers? I don't have a data plan and don't want an unpleasant suprise on my next bill.
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Yes, the Vogue has a real GPS antena. If you read through the forums you'll find verizon users have to do a bit of tweaking to get it working.
It can be confusing, because our phones also support "agps". This stands for assisted gps. AGPS uses cell phone tower triangulation to get a position.
GPS has inherent errors, in the aviation world there is a system called diffrential GPS. This uses a ground based system to correct the time diffrential error in the sattelites for greater accuracy. Without dgps you cannot use the gps inputs for a precision approach, only enroute, terminal and overlay. We use other systems such as vor/dme. This uses ground based "towers" to get a position using radial and distance information. This is very similiar to what agps does.

to answer the question does it use data?
the answer is yes.
it has to have a data connection in order to receive the gps data.
atleast thats my understanding, as a data connection does start and maintain during my gps sessions.

codybear said:
to answer the question does it use data?
the answer is yes.
it has to have a data connection in order to receive the gps data.
atleast thats my understanding, as a data connection does start and maintain during my gps sessions.
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No it shouldn't. The data connection you're seeing is probably initiated by the application that needs the internet for transferring maps like Google maps or MS Live search.
If you load up any independent GPS app that uses locally stored maps like TomTom or Garmin, then it shouldn't initiate any data connections.

thanks method man for correcting me.
i didn't think about it that way. haha.

Also a Newbie
I was wondering whether there was an app that I would need to install on my xv6900 to get the GPS working or do i need an external device like the TomTom Go series to get the GPS up and running.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thankyou

How to get GPS to work
acidreflux1 said:
I was wondering whether there was an app that I would need to install on my xv6900 to get the GPS working or do i need an external device like the TomTom Go series to get the GPS up and running.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thankyou
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The reason it dont work is because GPS tries to connect one way, i belive its phone as modem. and when you browse the internet, it tries to connect as Sprint PCS.
now i might be wrong in that, but just lisen.
in order to fix it you need to do a registry change. get a free program to edit the registry. like PHM RegEdit.
got it downloaded? installed? good. lets move on.
open it up
click on My Device
+HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
+Comm
+ConnMgr
+Providers
+{7C4B7A38-somethingsomethingsomething}
+Phone as Modem.
go into that setting, make sure that the key AlwaysOn is set to 0
THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART
go down a setting from phone as modem to
+SprintPCS
the key inside doesnt have to be set to Always On, but you can enable it if you want.
now close it up. count to 20 and do a restart on the phone
next time you try to run any GPS app it should work. use GoogleMaps though.
also while you are in here you can go into ConnectionSharing. a key above ConnMgr. and make it so you can use your phone as a modem for your laptop. the option was removed in the 6.1 update. let me know if you wish to know how.

6.1 ROM? and GPS
jrb_82 said:
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom.
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I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.

jimonfly said:
I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
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Here is the link to the offical WM6.1 ROM
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless
1. sync your phone with Outlook. You will loose everything on your phone when you flash the new ROM. Files on your memory card will be safe.
2. Unlock your phone with 2.31 & refer to the links below.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
http://www.atwistedweb.com/xv6900/index.html
3. connect your phone to your computer via activesync & run the ROM file you download. Simply follow the instructions.
4. Your phone will hard reset once the flash is complete. You will have to align the screen & such. The very last screen will ask you to tap the screen to begin using your device. You have to be ready to soft reset your phone as soon as you tap the screen. DO NOT LET THE CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN OR YOU WILL BE SCREWED FOR SURE.
5.Settings--->Phone--->Services Tab select location settings & then hit the get settings button. Make sure Location On is selected.
6. Download the Holus GPS viewer & install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434408&highlight=holux+gps+viewer
post #3
7. Once the GPS viewer open hit the scan button. This will tell you what port & at what baud you GPS is at. It should be com 4 @ 4800.
8. Hit the open GPS button & hopefully you will get a lock.

phone keeps scanning for satellites
Is this normal? The GPS program ran and continues to search for satellites. Its alomst like it can't find any. I ran it just the way you listed. Anything else I can try?

If you are using Holux GPS viewer and you see red dots then be happy your GPS is working. Usually first lock takes longer. try it on an open place hopefully you will get a lock. The red dots you see on Holux are the satellites that your GPS is seeing, Once it gets a lock you will see blue dots and that's a fix. If it continues to flash red dots, I would try closing and opening port once, that wud restart the GPS.
Once you get a lock, use any 3rd party software like Garmin Mobile XT or Tomtom Navigator 7 if you don't have a data plan. If you have a dataplan then you can use goolemaps too.
Hope it helps..
bwolsen said:
Is this normal? The GPS program ran and continues to search for satellites. Its alomst like it can't find any. I ran it just the way you listed. Anything else I can try?
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MethodMan said:
No it shouldn't. The data connection you're seeing is probably initiated by the application that needs the internet for transferring maps like Google maps or MS Live search.
If you load up any independent GPS app that uses locally stored maps like TomTom or Garmin, then it shouldn't initiate any data connections.
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No that isn't true at all,
I have both Tomtom and Igo with map files on the sd card. The phone needs the internet to get the agps information otherwise the GPS programs can't get a lock. It doesn't use much adata at all as I was roaming in the states (from canada) for around 10 days , I used the gps everyday and was only charged under $3 for the whole 10 days.

jimonfly said:
I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
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http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless
Here is the update you are looking for, now.... For the love of the lord, DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATION RUN!!!
Update your device as directed in the file, when the device updates and restarts, you will see a message that says something like "Running Customization in... 3,2,1 Seconds" or something like that, when you see that, stick the stylus in the hole at the bottom of the device and you will avoid a big pain in the @ss.
EDIT: Oops, i'm too late LOL, didn't refresh thepage while searching the update.

Can't get a lock
I just followed all the steps and installed GPS viewer and could not get a lock. I used the Verizon MR1 rom. Since that did not work I tried installing Valhalla GPS Server to see if that would help. No luck. Any Ideas?

mfpreach said:
No that isn't true at all,
I have both Tomtom and Igo with map files on the sd card. The phone needs the internet to get the agps information otherwise the GPS programs can't get a lock. It doesn't use much adata at all as I was roaming in the states (from canada) for around 10 days , I used the gps everyday and was only charged under $3 for the whole 10 days.
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I have data blocked on my phone and the GPS worked fine up until about a month ago. Whatever Verizon did blocked my GPS and I have not been able to get is working since. I can still run GPS viewer and see satellites but I can't get a fix on them.

I have everything working now. Thanks.

Just so I have it straight...
When I unlock the phone with 2.31, do I let customizations run? The ppcgeeks thread doesn't specify, but the atwistedweb thread says let them run. What does 2.31 do? Just unlock the phone so I can install the next ROM? Also, the ppc post talks about disabling USB while the other does not. Is there a preference?
When I install the new WM6.1 ROM, the atwistedweb post says to install it from the SD card, while the this thread says via USB. Once again, any preference?
I understand not to let the customizations run for this ROM and by putting the stylus in the bottom hole it resets the machine. After it comes up again, will the phone be (should be) upgraded and ready to use?
Lastly, if my phone gets "bricked" (I guess that means it turns into a battery powered paperweight), you guy can help me out, right?
Man, all of this just to get GPS and Verizon service. Still nervous! And Verizon won't shut my service off or stop tech support?
Thanks again. Trying to get all the info up front so I don't have to later. Jim

jimonfly said:
Just so I have it straight...
When I unlock the phone with 2.31, do I let customizations run? The ppcgeeks thread doesn't specify, but the atwistedweb thread says let them run. What does 2.31 do? Just unlock the phone so I can install the next ROM? Also, the ppc post talks about disabling USB while the other does not. Is there a preference?
When I install the new WM6.1 ROM, the atwistedweb post says to install it from the SD card, while the this thread says via USB. Once again, any preference?
I understand not to let the customizations run for this ROM and by putting the stylus in the bottom hole it resets the machine. After it comes up again, will the phone be (should be) upgraded and ready to use?
Lastly, if my phone gets "bricked" (I guess that means it turns into a battery powered paperweight), you guy can help me out, right?
Man, all of this just to get GPS and Verizon service. Still nervous! And Verizon won't shut my service off or stop tech support?
Thanks again. Trying to get all the info up front so I don't have to later. Jim
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Make sure you have backed up everything. First you need to unlock with the .40 unlocker. Then flash to the sprint pre-GPS ROM (This will downgrade your radio which is said to be dangerous but I have never heard of anyone hurting their phone while doing it correctly. This will also require you to call Verizon and get a new A-key. If they ask you what happened just tell them that you had to hard reset your device because of a bad program. Go through all of their steps and it will all get fixed. You have to call Verizon because you wont be able to make calls.) DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN! You'll know they're about to run beacuse there will be a pop up saying they're going to run in 3 seconds (or something like that). As soon as you see that pop up stick your stylus in the reset hole. Then unlock with the 2.31 unlocker. After you use this unlocker you wont have to unlock again. Ok now you flash back to the Verizon MR1 ROM. DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN! Once again you'll know they're about to run beacuse there will be a pop up saying they're going to run in 3 seconds (or something like that). Now after you do this your GPS should be working but I was never able to get it to work with the Verizon MR1 ROM. So I recommend using NSFFAN's 6.5 ROM. Now when I unlock and flash ROM's I don't disable the USB thing your talking about. I also flash everything through my computer (USB) and not through the SD card. There is a small chance you can brick your phone but if you do everything carefully and correctly it's a very very small chance. Just make sure you are doing everything right before moving on to each next step. If a phone is bricked I don't think it can be recovered but i'm not 100% sure. Lots of times when there are problems though it's not a bricked phone and just a glitch so if you have anything that doesn't seem right just come on here and ask for help. Verizon won't do anything with your service except fix your phone like I said earlier unless you tell them what your actually doing. I don't know what happens then and I don't want to find out.. What they don't know won't hurt them Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need any help.

[Q] Google Maps with GPS

hi everyone ! can anyone tell me how i can use Google Maps with Gps technology ?? when i select "Use GPS" it says "Network Unavailable"

You're connected to the Internet?

An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.

sharax said:
You're connected to the Internet?
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no i'm not !
Dnst said:
An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.
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you mean if i want to browse maps with gps, i have to connect to the internet ??

Oh yes the maps are not on your device they are downloaded!!

Google Maps gets your location from the GPS sensor, but then has to go online to download the actual map data for that area.

so if the map of the area we are in, was downloaded befor then i think there wont be any problem ! i think it would be just like the quick gps software in diamond ! am i right ?

I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy

diogoperas said:
I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy
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hehe, i tried 5 different apps and currently use gpsVP /w cached Gmaps imgs
pretty good for a free app, altho not totally easy to set up as there is no info...
since there is no maps for japan that i know of, never tried a commercial product, then again i prefer gmaps and my brain for navigation

diogoperas said:
I think that should be a way of download the map and use it offline. Some cracker should make it easy
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in the last few versions of gmaps just install it onto the storage card and then you can just save whats in the applicationdata\googlemaps folder and use that offline

Dnst said:
An activated GPRS, EDGE or UMTS is necessary.
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Can also be Wifi.

hey everybody, first post here....
i read that i should not start new posts if theres one going already.
I got my diamond about a month ago, its an alltel cdma diamond with original ROM, no registry tweaks, pretty much stock.
the GPS is being finicky. ive tried atleast 10-15 different GPS applications (all freeware or trials) and they are alway hit or miss. sometimes i get a 6-12 sat lock in seconds, even indoors... but sometimes i cant lock on outside even after 15min or more (even if i had a lock on less then 8hrs earlier). Ive been trying to find a pattern to why it sometimes works (certain settings, maybe after a resets, quick gps, etc)
side note, i used the G-Watch app while in poland where i have no phone coverage. it worked perfectly everytime i turned it on with almost instant lockon. but back in florida every program i try sometimes works and sometimes doesnt, even if i turned the phone to airplane mode.
question 1- is this considered normal for the alltel diamond
question 2- does the software that costs money (ie tomtom) work any better/more consistently
question 3 - could there be something wrong with my phone
question 4 - any ideas how to make it more stable
thanx for the help

also, on some of the gps programs, it will say i have found up to 8 or so sats, but wont lock onto any of them...
thanx again

SLOW GPS FIX in android

Could someone Tell me why GPS fix is so slow (with every android build yet)?? most times it takes 5-10 Minutes to find satellites with googlemaps /copilot .. is this a Known issue ?? My location is the Netherlands..
Do i need to set the something in the startup.txt ?

Get gps status from the market to download satellite information for a quicker fix, mine works in a matter of seconds

Even with GPS status.. the thing takes a long time to get a lock

Try the solution presented here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738982 and report.

What did the trick to me was:
1. Updating QuickGPS, on WinMO;
2. Installing GPS Status and downloading assistance data:
::: Settings&Configuration : GPS&Sensors: Manage AGPS data.
I am getting consistently fast locks now But what made the difference this time was updating QuickGPS on WinMo... Check my sig for details on my setup.

luigipirex said:
What did the trick to me was:
1. Updating QuickGPS, on WinMO;
2. Installing GPS Status and downloading assistance data:
::: Settings&Configuration : GPS&Sensors: Manage AGPS data.
I am getting consistently fast locks now But what made the difference this time was updating QuickGPS on WinMo... Check my sig for details on my setup.
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i think updating quickgps in winmo is useless for android. if this would help, it would mean that winmo and android access/have/share the same storage on the device for storing satellite data. winmo would store this in nand...

hebbe said:
i think updating quickgps in winmo is useless for android. if this would help, it would mean that winmo and android access/have/share the same storage on the device for storing satellite data. winmo would store this in nand...
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It certainly isn't useless, as many users have reported this as a solution. For me, it was the solution that definitely worked. I've tried every other method, including editing gps.conf file, using GPS status, etc, and the results weren't consistent. But after I updated my QuickGPS on WinMo, I have been getting consistent results, every time I try, as short as 5 seconds to get me a lock.
As you should know, some settings in WinMo still affect your hardware in Android: e.g., look at the "calibrate g-sensor in WinMo" recommendation. I think this is also the case with GPS.

But! what you can do in wimo is also possible in Android: getting AGPS... with GPS status..
so getting Agps information is not the problem here..
Possibility's
The radio ? with some radios with my winmo devices it took 5 minuts to get 6 satelites and with other radios (like blackstone 13.32.24xxx) it took 10 seconds to get 11 satelites .. in 10 seconds..
So I really think its Radio related..
Or the gps sensor isn't working 100% correctly..
Shouldn't we test some radio's for best gps performance.,

What is radio blackstone 13.32.24xxx??? never heard of it before.

luigipirex said:
What did the trick to me was:
1. Updating QuickGPS, on WinMO;
2. Installing GPS Status and downloading assistance data:
::: Settings&Configuration : GPS&Sensors: Manage AGPS data.
I am getting consistently fast locks now But what made the difference this time was updating QuickGPS on WinMo... Check my sig for details on my setup.
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Worked for me, thanks !! (it now locks in less than 10 sec, in comparison to several minutes before updating quickgps in Winmo).
The problem with some people in this forum is that they have to be smart ass, they will argue with you that there is no logic in your fix, even though it works. Too bad for them.

fstluxe said:
But! what you can do in wimo is also possible in Android: getting AGPS... with GPS status..
so getting Agps information is not the problem here..
Possibility's
The radio ? with some radios with my winmo devices it took 5 minuts to get 6 satelites and with other radios (like blackstone 13.32.24xxx) it took 10 seconds to get 11 satelites .. in 10 seconds..
So I really think its Radio related..
Or the gps sensor isn't working 100% correctly..
Shouldn't we test some radio's for best gps performance.,
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I've tried different radios and that didn't to absolutely anything to the GPS performance on Android. QuickGPS, on the other hand, gave me results. Even just using GPS Status didn't do anything for me.
By the way, A-GPS and QuickGPS assistance data are different things. QuickGPS can be useful to you even if you don't any signal when you are using GPS on your handset (if, of course, you have downloaded before your assistance data and it's up-to-date). To use A-GPS, you need to have signal...
Why don't your try this solution and see for yourself? You just have to update QuickGPS on WinMo. If you are using a light WinMo ROM, with no QuickGPS, try a regular stock or cooked ROM. The latest ChuckyDroid is a lite version, but has QuickGPS, though.
Try it, and then tell us if it worked for you.
Noam23 said:
Worked for me, thanks !! (it now locks in less than 10 sec, in comparison to several minutes before updating quickgps in Winmo).
The problem with some people in this forum is that they have to be smart ass, they will argue with you that there is no logic in your fix, even though it works. Too bad for them.
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I am very glad it worked for you! I was doubtful when I first read this solution... but it does work wonders!

luigipirex said:
It certainly isn't useless, as many users have reported this as a solution. For me, it was the solution that definitely worked. I've tried every other method, including editing gps.conf file, using GPS status, etc, and the results weren't consistent. But after I updated my QuickGPS on WinMo, I have been getting consistent results, every time I try, as short as 5 seconds to get me a lock.
As you should know, some settings in WinMo still affect your hardware in Android: e.g., look at the "calibrate g-sensor in WinMo" recommendation. I think this is also the case with GPS.
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some settings in winmo affect your hardware in android 'cause winmo is used to initialize the hardware, so that it has a certain state when booting android. this is due to the fact that our android drivers cannot initialize hardware (yet), so winmo is needed.
why should starting quickgps in winmo help in android? as far as i know all that quickgps does is downloading satellite position information to help the gps driver to fasten up the calculation of the current position in case of a cold fix.
if this would help in android, it would mean that the satellite data is some kind of stored *inside* the gps chip. otherwise andoid wouldn't be able to access the position data (orbit) of the satellites.
or am i completely wrong? if so, please help me and correct it...i'm just curious

hebbe said:
why should starting quickgps in winmo help in android? as far as i know all that quickgps does is downloading satellite position information to help the gps driver to fasten up the calculation of the current position in case of a cold fix.
if this would help in android, it would mean that the satellite data is some kind of stored *inside* the gps chip. otherwise andoid wouldn't be able to access the position data (orbit) of the satellites.
or am i completely wrong? if so, please help me and correct it...i'm just curious
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This is correct. The satellite data is stored inside the GPS chip (this is written in the help file of the "GPS status" app).
It could be that because the android drivers are lacking in the HD2, we can only read from the GPS but not write (this is why updating the satellites work from WinMo but not from Android. because android can't write to the GPS chip).

Noam23 said:
This is correct. The satellite data is stored inside the GPS chip (this is written in the help file of the "GPS status" app).
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thanks for your reply!
ok, then some kind of "quickgps" for android would help too...
so winmo is not necessary/needed for gps to work properly.

Noam23 said:
This is correct. The satellite data is stored inside the GPS chip (this is written in the help file of the "GPS status" app).
It could be that because the android drivers are lacking in the HD2, we can only read from the GPS but not write (this is why updating the satellites work from WinMo but not from Android. because android can't write to the GPS chip).
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Thats a Good Point!

Holy Cow it worked! I mean it works!
Who can argue with that?

Sat data is input to gps chip. And the data is usually good for 7 days.
So if you use quickgps in winmo to update sat data, it will also make gps fast in android too at least a week.
gps status app in android also has the ability to download sat data, but quickgps in winmo seems better.
DON'T THINK ABOUT LOGIC. JUST TRY IT. IF you now a place where winmo gps works very fast, get a gps lock under winmo and then boot android. You will see that Android now gets a lock in seconds too.
Most people have problems with gps because their gps.conf file is empty, or they are not "really" in open air.
Gps will get a fix more difficult:
- If the weather is cloudy
- If there are buildings near you
- If you are actually inside a building
- If you are in a vehicle and vehicle is moving fast.
- If you don't have the assistance data in your gps chip.
- If you force your gps chip to do a cold start (instead of hot or warm start)
- If you don't have a working reliable internet connection (to download satellite data to aid in calculation)
- If you have an empty gps.conf file
Sometimes if I can't get a gps lock quickly, before blaming Android I reboot to winmo and see it doesn't always get a fast lock. Environment is a huge factor. So before thinking it is an Android problem, reboot to winmo use quickgps to download sat data and wait for a accurate fix in google maps or similar app. (google maps will first get your location from google location server which is usually only accurate to several hundred meters. Make sure you wait for the actual lock with a few meters of accuracy.
Since you "have to" load winmo before android (as no nand boot exists yet) just download sat data every few days before launching haret. It would be a good idea to get a fix and then launch haret.

The trick with quickgps also works in my device. Now android is almost perfect. Camera, gps work, no freeze. I only want 720p playback.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

This theory makes me wonder.
Why is there a xtra.bin in the windows folder?
If there was an issue with the GPS in winmo it was sometimes needed to delete that file and download it again via the quickgps tool.

I wish I could try the quickGPS solution but unfortunately I'm using a very light version of windows mobile and quickGPS wasn't included. I tried to download and install one but got the error message about it not being signed or trusted.
So I can't figure out how to run QuickGPS and take advantage of these fixes.

[Q] GPS in Android not working ?

hello,
On the status page of android htc photon stands that gps work. I have sygic mobile maps install and coPilot, but none of 2 receives gps indicators.
what tired do I do?
sorry for my bad English.

mbdesign said:
hello,
On the status page of android htc photon stands that gps work. I have sygic mobile maps install and coPilot, but none of 2 receives gps indicators.
what tired do I do?
sorry for my bad English.
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Firstly. You go and read the other 2 posts about GPS!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992570
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964643
You then realise that these posts have possible fixes.

JAntrobus said:
Firstly. You go and read the other 2 posts about GPS!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992570
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964643
You then realise that these posts have possible fixes.
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dude..read more careful
he meant that GPS is not working while he is running Android,the links u gave are about the problem with GPS while running WM,after the device was running Android.

tzacapaca said:
dude..read more careful
he meant that GPS is not working while he is running Android,the links u gave are about the problem with GPS while running WM,after the device was running Android.
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You sure? Either way, it should fix it. If its not working for Android you turn GPS off for Windows, and then run Android. Just make sure WinMo doesn't have it so it can turn GPS on when ever it fancies. It's somewhere in the GPS settings. As Windows might try turn it on, before you lunch Android.
And apologies if it was a different issue, just that the forum is getting filled with people repeating the same questions over and over without using the search functions on the forum provided.

hello
to now we dont have a pure working version of android on photon, and you are asking about gps for this program.
let us go and see what guys did for the android on photon, and solve the main problems then we talk about the small things like this

After install and run Adroid on my htc mini, GPS not work on Windows Mobile
After Hard reset ans Reinstall and rerun Android I cannot set GPS on.
Is there a solution without rerun Adroid to activate GPS under Windows Mobile?

Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002178
Its a known issue. You have to deactive gps localisation in android to make it work in wimo.

AGPS

I know this topic has been discussed previously, but I haven't been able to find the answer yet so here goes:
As I understand it, GPS is working in all/most sense and cm based builds however AGPS seems to be an issue all have in common. From what I understand AGPS is just a helper function for quicker GPS locking so even though AGPS isnt working, you should still be able to get a lock.
Now, since before we got nand based ROMs for HD2 I used haret to load android from my SD card. Back then I used GPS depended applications like c:geo for geocaching and car navigation progs, as well as progs for finding nearest resturant when I visit other cities/countries.
Been a while since I had the need for it, but recently with the nice weather geocaching for example have become an interest. What I see now is that none of the ginger/cm/non-sense builds I have tried have given me a GPS lock. I have tried the GPS fixes, flashed Norway.zip for tweaking my gps.conf, installed gps-status but no chance in getting a lock. and yes, I have been giving it quite some time, outdoors.
Anyone else having these problems? I see from screenshots on for example the HyperDroidCM7 ROM that you can get a lock, so its not a problem for everybody. Is my assumption on what AGPS is, correct? Any worarounds to get GPS functionality working? Strange to have these problems now, since it worked kinda well before
EDIT: tried now with [10.MAR.11][CWM] RAFDROID HD 4.0.2|Fastest Full DesHD|DATA2EXT|[Rafpigna 1.8 OC], still no lock

There's no driver support for AGPS, so the best we can do for now is to tweak our gps.conf and use gps status. If you can't get a lock at all, it could be a HW problem. If geocaching is a necessity for you, you could go back to WM and sd Android, use WM to grab AGPS data, then boot into Android.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I use that rom, but the 4.0 (really not much of a difference for me between the 4.0 and 4.0.2), and I always have a lock quickly.
1) Did you try installing the GPSFix.0.1 apk file and running it? that downloads a criticial file xtra.bin into your data folder.
Also try the 1.2 files and see if you have any luck, because I know in the 4.0 of Rafdroid, the gps works very well.

Same as Angeldeath, I use Rafdroid and it works ok.
Mine was faulty a couple of weeks ago and HTC warranty had to swap the board (and also did the screen, keys etc). In the end it would still lock but after a while it would freez or have no reception anymore.
But to be honest I don't like the GPS receiver at all in the HD2. There are numerous tests and other people to back me up on the tremendous jitter the receiver has which makes you jump all over the place.
A nice test is to place it in the car and switch on the cruiscontrol at 100km/h, or even worse at 180km/h. The thing will jump atleast 10% in speed.
When I need to drive or walk long trips I use my iBlue 747A+ 66 Ch Bluetooth GPS Logger which you can buy cheap on ebay.
That thing logs, is fast, deadly accurate and with the free 'bluetooth gps' on the market you can even use it on the HD2

huggs said:
There's no driver support for AGPS, so the best we can do for now is to tweak our gps.conf and use gps status. If you can't get a lock at all, it could be a HW problem. If geocaching is a necessity for you, you could go back to WM and sd Android, use WM to grab AGPS data, then boot into Android.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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The AGPS thing on WM and then booting into Android is a myth, there's an extenvise work being done to make AGPS work on Android for our HD2s, but they have not managed to get it working yet.
Android on our HD2 simply doesnt have any commands to load AGPS, and the chip itself doesnt save any data. In the remote case it saved anything, there's nothing on the GPS Driver itself to read it
Quick tip to get your GPS to work:
Load Google Maps, let it try to get a lock, if after 1 or 2 mins it doesnt get any lock force close the app, turn off then back on the GPS and reload Google Maps. If you still cant get a lock, let it sit for at least 5 mins, then Force Close it again.
after that it should get you a lock in less than 10 secs.
Easiest way to FC it is enabling the "hold back to FC app" option on CM builds.