It's finally driven me to the point that I'm just going to sell the Nexus for a profit and get a G2. I can't take picking up my phone every single time I want to check if I have a message. I've never had a smartphone without this feature, and it's just a nightmare.
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It's finally driven me to the point that I'm just going to sell the Nexus for a profit and get a G2. I can't take picking up my phone every single time I want to check if I have a message. I've never had a smartphone without this feature, and it's just a nightmare.
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I do miss having an LED indicator too... but I wonder if they took it out due to battery life reasons. Is there an app that can help give better indications in case for missed calls or texts that can do a reminder without an LED indicator... maybe even use the LED light on the back of the camera is better than nothing
i would say just wait until someone makes it so it uses the LEDs under the softkeys as notification lights
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i would say just wait until someone makes it so it uses the LEDs under the softkeys as notification lights
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It's just not the same!
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i would say just wait until someone makes it so it uses the LEDs under the softkeys as notification lights
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That would work fine for me, if only someone would write it!
Use NoLED, works great for me. I like it more than the trackball notifications on my N1 now, they look awesome on the screen.
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Use NoLED, works great for me. I like it more than the trackball notifications on my N1 now, they look awesome on the screen.
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I don't want to power-on the screen for a notification that may be left un-noticed for an hour.
I didn't really like the idea of NoLED either but I just decided to try it for the hell of it. I use the blink mode and set the time out to 1 hour so if it's idle for an hour the notifications will stop. I've checked the battery drain and it seems to be quite small with blink mode at least (since I'm only having it display the notifications for 1 second every 30 seconds). So really, 2 seconds of screen time every minute, which is about 120 seconds every hour, or about 2 minutes of screen time where it's mostly black and a few lit pixels, and then after that 1 hour it stops.
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I don't want to power-on the screen for a notification that may be left un-noticed for an hour.
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I tried noled but must confess I never spent any time setting it up so the battery drain I noticed may have been avoidable.
Just to pick up on the above... I'd want the notifications instantly obvious so that a quick glance at my phone would notify me of any messages. Using the above method I'd only see a notification for some of the time and not all.
Lighting up the bottom buttons would be a much better option for me but in the meantime I might try noled again.
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It's just not the same!
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Other than the fact that they're not colored, seems a bit better IMO, more noticeable. Also, battery drain really is minimal with NoLed...
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I don't want to power-on the screen for a notification that may be left un-noticed for an hour.
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The three pixels on the screen drawing power aren't going to impact your battery life heavily.
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The three pixels on the screen drawing power aren't going to impact your battery life heavily.
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to be honest id be more paranoid about burn in , cuz really if i get a text when im sleeping and it goes unnoticed for 8 hours then what
With NoLED you can set notification timeouts, I have mine set to 30 minutes because I always have my phone near me and 30 minutes is plenty. I also have it set to use the Proximity sensor so that if the phone is in my pocket it's not displaying any notification, only when you remove the phone from your pocket and the proximity sensor detects that it's clear will it display the notification instantly. You can also set a "sleep" time for notifications, so I have mine turn off at 2am and turn back on at 6am.
If there is any increased battery drain I haven't noticed it, but then again I don't leave notifications on flashing for hours either.
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to be honest id be more paranoid about burn in , cuz really if i get a text when im sleeping and it goes unnoticed for 8 hours then what
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The notifications move around the screen to prevent any pixel burn-in. You can set them to timeout after a certain amount of time also.
Have you guys even bothered trying out NoLED? Haha
Good to know but on top of that don't the notifications move around the screen?
Edit: ikon beat me to it.
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The notifications move around the screen to prevent any pixel burn-in. You can set them to timeout after a certain amount of time also.
Have you guys even bothered trying out NoLED? Haha
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NO!, i fear change!
Have the phone make a sound/vibrate. No need to pick it up.
or download noLED. Problem solved.
I've made a couple posts in the Poor Battery Life on NS? thread( such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10143276&postcount=159) detailing my experience with the Nexus S's battery.
I use noLED as my notification system with large icons rather than the default little dots and no time out method. The only other special thing I've done to it is turn on the proximity sensor so noLED doesn't run while it's in my pocket. My boss likes to do a lot of paperwork in the super late evening/early morning and sends me emails accordingly(this is why I don't leave the sound/vibrate on, lol). noLED's impact on battery life is extremely negligible. I would put it on par with the power with the power consumption of an actual LED notification light due to the way SAMOLED and blacks work.
And, if you're worried about burn in, like someone said, the icons shift around the screen in order to avoid that.
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I've made a couple posts in the Poor Battery Life on NS? thread( such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10143276&postcount=159) detailing my experience with the Nexus S's battery.
I use noLED as my notification system with large icons rather than the default little dots and no time out method. The only other special thing I've done to it is turn on the proximity sensor so noLED doesn't run while it's in my pocket. My boss likes to do a lot of paperwork in the super late evening/early morning and sends me emails accordingly(this is why I don't leave the sound/vibrate on, lol). noLED's impact on battery life is extremely negligible. I would put it on par with the power with the power consumption of an actual LED notification light due to the way SAMOLED and blacks work.
And, if you're worried about burn in, like someone said, the icons shift around the screen in order to avoid that.
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that proximity sensor idea while its in your pocket, genius
Just tried noled again and am noticing a few force close errors.
What settings are best for this app and when a notification is received, what are you using to wake tje phone again as the power button causes issues as explained in the splash screen after install?
I'm also seeing all the bottom buttons light up as well as the notification on the screen, is this normal and if so is this not consuming battery unnecesarily?
Seems a tad buggy to me this app on the Nexus S. Would appreciate exact settings / configuration from anyone that has it running satisfactorily.
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Try this - using power control widget turn the brightness down to the lowest level. Then drag the notification bar down, and then without releasing your finger drag it all the way up. Brightness goes up. Weird huh? (LauncherPro, not rooted_yet)
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Try this - using power control widget turn the brightness down to the lowest level. Then drag the notification bar down, and then without releasing your finger drag it all the way up. Brightness goes up. Weird huh? (LauncherPro, not rooted_yet)
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Put your finger on the top edge of the screen. Drag your finger to the left and right... Oh... the screen goes from dark to brighter and back again... Not so weird, it's made that way.
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Put your finger on the top edge of the screen. Drag your finger to the left and right... Oh... the screen goes from dark to brighter and back again... Not so weird, it's made that way.
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Ha, so that's why my brightness mysteriously keeps going up from time to time.
Is there a way to turn this "feature" off?
MacGuy2006 said:
Ha, so that's why my brightness mysteriously keeps going up from time to time.
Is there a way to turn this "feature" off?
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Set your brightness to automatic in the settings.
damianarnold said:
Set your brightness to automatic in the settings.
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Yeah, but then the brightness is higher than I want it.
I am trying to extend my battery life, so I'd rather the brightness stays at the lowest setting.
The problem is, I am not sure it's helping so much. Right now, it has been just short of 8 hours since the phone was plugged in. The battery is at about 50%.
Voice Calls account for 52%.
Display for 19%
Standby for 10%
Phone Idle for 7%
Skyfire for 5%
The problem is, voice calls show total time of 26 minutes 19 seconds.
Display shows 54 minutes 47 seconds.
Skyfire shows 23 minutes 47 seconds.
That's pretty light usage, IMO.
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Ha, so that's why my brightness mysteriously keeps going up from time to time.
Is there a way to turn this "feature" off?
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In the settings menu, right under screen timeout, there's a powersaver mode or something similar. If you read the subtext on it, it says something about examining the display and adjusting brightness based on what's being displayed. If you haven't already, try turning that feature off; but you may end up hurting battery life, which is opposite of your ultimate goal, I believe.
This is on firmware JG1 for European phones...
Thanks!
Classic "it's not a bug, it's a feature" situation
As to the battery life I find it very underwhelming.. This morning before leaving for work I had 33%. On my way(which is literally 15 minutes) I was listening to a podcast and by the time I got here it dropped do 15% :/ GPS, 3g, WiFi off...
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Thanks!
Classic "it's not a bug, it's a feature" situation
As to the battery life I find it very underwhelming.. This morning before leaving for work I had 33%. On my way(which is literally 15 minutes) I was listening to a podcast and by the time I got here it dropped do 15% :/ GPS, 3g, WiFi off...
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Battery life always suck on all the phones. I think the app BeyondPod, that I use, is especially hard on the battery for some reason. On my N1, I expect 8-12% battery drop per hour when listening to podcasts for some reason.
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Battery life always suck on all the phones....
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Dunno.... My battery died yesterday after less than 13 hours, with fairly light use: the biggest drain was voice calls, which accounted for less than 30 minutes in total
I've had the phone for only a few days, so I sure hope it's just battery conditioning. My old iPhone would last 2 days with similar use.
O.K. Fully discharged yesterday, charged overnight.
Now, 8h29m since plugged, the phone shows 35% battery.
41% use by voice calls (20 minutes!)
Display 30% (1h8m at the lowest brightness)
Cell standby 11%
It's not going to last through the day, again With barely any use).
I sure hope this gets better over the next few days.
dam tahts crazy! didnt know it could do that lol
This is not a glitch, if you drag your finger from the left top corner to the right it will higher the brightness and same goes ford the other way
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Boy, I'd like to turn this off. I charge my phone overnight on my nightstand. Sometime in the middle of the night it will turn the screen on, and stay on, with a message indicating that it is fully charge and that requires dismissal. Maybe someone can come up with a hack.
I think it's quite annoying as well, but the screen shouldn't be staying on from an alert. Are you running "No Lock" or something equivalent?
I also find the pop up annoying, but my phone turns off the display after a while... Leaving the screen on just sounds stupid...
On a Vibrant, using this app-thingy
I too would like to turn it off as it vibrates loud as heck when the alert pops up, and I am a light sleeper!
Subscribe! This notification interferes with my Night Clock and I REALLY want to know how to turn it off!
I have the "stay awake while charging" checked in Settings>Applications>Development
So, once it pops up then the screen stays on.
Yes, this annoys me to no end. I hope they create a setting with future updates. Otherwise, I wonder if the clock / desk dock allows you to turn off the screen without these notifications?
Also, has anyone even downloaded the desk dock app? I'm actually kind of disappointed that the screen won't dim any further. Even on 'night mode' it's extremely bright.
+1 for "I hate it". It's pretty stupid. Samsung needs to make this toggle-able in an OTA update.
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Also, has anyone even downloaded the desk dock app? I'm actually kind of disappointed that the screen won't dim any further. Even on 'night mode' it's extremely bright.
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curious where you saw a desk dock app?
Go to Android Market. Search for 'Samsung'.
There are two apps that - for whatever stupid reason - weren't included: 'Desk Home' and 'Car Home'.
They look kind of tacky, compared to Google's stock apps. I'd much prefer those, to be honest. But hey, they work. You can voice dial very easily, using the Car Home app. Pretty handy.
Try this: go to Tmobile my account app, select the alerts tab and turn off battery warning.
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Changing the setting in my account app did not work for me.
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Is it not bad to charge a phone while it is on? Never got a goood answer to this.
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Is it not bad to charge a phone while it is on? Never got a goood answer to this.
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You are joking, right?....
Its fine to charge the phone while its on just not good to use it while charging. As for the pop up that's to make the phone more "green". Trickle charging can waste a lot of electricity so phone manufacturers put that in there, my Cliq did it too.
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Its fine to charge the phone while its on just not good to use it while charging. As for the pop up that's to make the phone more "green". Trickle charging can waste a lot of electricity so phone manufacturers put that in there, my Cliq did it too.
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It is fine to use it while it is charging, too.
i personally dont mind the notification, but i keep my vibrant in the G1 sleeve case that came with it because it fits perfectly in there. my screen shuts off after 30 seconds of the notification. i'm sure in a future update samsung may address this, but until then, its really not that big of a deal, just my opinion
This damn notification is driving me nutz! It is interfering with my Bedside app and freezes my alarm so it doesn't go off in the morning. At least that's all I could link it to.
The battery charge is self managing. So I am not sure why Samsung thought that this popup was even necessary. It is not like leaving the charger connected is going cause any harm.
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i personally dont mind the notification, but i keep my vibrant in the G1 sleeve case that came with it because it fits perfectly in there. my screen shuts off after 30 seconds of the notification. i'm sure in a future update samsung may address this, but until then, its really not that big of a deal, just my opinion
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Yeah, it IS that big a deal. Maybe not to you, but to the rest of us. I use the Digital Clock app and keep the phone awake at night (you can set the screen really dim on that clock) for my alarm clock. Well, while the battery notice doesn't interfere with the alarm it is very bright and just the light wakes me up.
And I like my phone fully charged when I wake up, not down 10% because of whatever sleep processes ate electrons in the middle of the night. Especially since Samsung tried to make an iPhone wanna-be (physically) and made it so slim instead of putting a decent battery in it.
I've been searching around looking for info on this and got nothing. I know the LED is on when the phone is off and charging but why would Motorola not have that feature when the phone is on and charging? Every single phone I have ever owned has had a charging LED. So why not the X? It would be cool if there was an app that could control the colors for the charge LED too.
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Moto did alot of stupid stuff like put the battery percentages in 10s instead of singles
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i've noticed the new version of tranquility rom has a green led when charging. i dunno about changing the color though.
Does the green LED stay on when the phone is ON and charging or just OFF and charging? Cuz the X has a green LED when the phone is charging and OFF.
yeah, the phone is on and charging and the green led is on. i never turn my phone off anyway
Yep, Green LED def works on Tranq 3.
If you use Tasker, you can set up the LED to come on while charging on ANY rom.
Tasker is a wonderful app
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Yep, Green LED def works on Tranq 3.
If you use Tasker, you can set up the LED to come on while charging on ANY rom.
Tasker is a wonderful app
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I'm going to check out this tasker app... just because I hear you talk about it so much lol.
Tried tasker, not to impressed
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Explodee said:
Tried tasker, not to impressed
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I guess you have to learn how to set it up. It literally does anything and everything possible on an Android phone.
It turns my Wifi on automatically when I arrive home, turns it off when I leave, Sets sync to every 30 mins, saving battery, texts my GF every morning at random intervals telling her to have a great day (Or some variation of that, thats a lifesaver ), turns my GPS on/off for apps that need it, turns brightness to full and auto rotation on when using the gallery, silent boot, silent shut down, reminders, periodic data sync, displays a menu of apps upon plugging in the headphones, and thats just scratching the surface...
I should look into being a Tasker salesman... haha
Some people dont like it because its "hard" to set up, but there are profile tutorials all over the place making it very easy.
I'd say Tasker alone gives me an extra 3 hours of battery life just by itself.
Yeah, I'm not impressed either
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I guess you have to learn how to set it up. It literally does anything and everything possible on an Android phone.
It turns my Wifi on automatically when I arrive home, turns it off when I leave, Sets sync to every 30 mins, saving battery, texts my GF every morning at random intervals telling her to have a great day (Or some variation of that, thats a lifesaver ), turns my GPS on/off for apps that need it, turns brightness to full and auto rotation on when using the gallery, silent boot, silent shut down, reminders, periodic data sync, displays a menu of apps upon plugging in the headphones, and thats just scratching the surface...
I should look into being a Tasker salesman... haha
Some people dont like it because its "hard" to set up, but there are profile tutorials all over the place making it very easy.
I'd say Tasker alone gives me an extra 3 hours of battery life just by itself.
Yeah, I'm not impressed either
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I'm truly in love with tasker... I could shed a tear right now with all the ideas that have been flowing through my head because they can finally be done through one app!!
I like that texting the gf thing.. I'm going to make that now!
Oh and P.S: "I'm not too impressed"
So last night I plugged in my spanking new GS3 for its first full charge. Well sometime in the middle of the night the room gets very bright. I guess the screen comes on to let you know it's done charging. How can I stop this?? I use my phone as my alarm clock so I need it screen side up.
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So last night I plugged in my spanking new GS3 for its first full charge. Well sometime in the middle of the night the room gets very bright. I guess the screen comes on to let you know it's done charging. How can I stop this?? I use my phone as my alarm clock so I need it screen side up.
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turn it over, alarm clock work by making sound, it will be louder if it is facing down because the speaker is on the back, problem solved.
I realize that I could do that as a last resort, but I could see myself stumbling trying to pick the thing up to shut it off and in my morning sleepiness accidentally dropping it.
Hi -- quick question for you (I haven't bought the phone yet) -- since you didn't mention a noise, I take it that the GSIII does not also make an audible alert when the battery's full (which can only be silenced by putting the phone on Silent)? My Vibrant does this, and it has always bugged me...
How about when you charge the phone when it's off -- does it vibrate and light up with a "battery full" alert? (That vibration alone can sometimes be enough to wake me up.) Thanks!
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I realize that I could do that as a last resort, but I could see myself stumbling trying to pick the thing up to shut it off and in my morning sleepiness accidentally dropping it.
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i am sure after some time with custom development such an option could be there.....
Only the green light comes on when mine finishes charging. Maybe there's a setting for you to change.
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So last night I plugged in my spanking new GS3 for its first full charge. Well sometime in the middle of the night the room gets very bright. I guess the screen comes on to let you know it's done charging. How can I stop this?? I use my phone as my alarm clock so I need it screen side up.
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Wait, do you actually get woken up by the light coming on on your screen?
Yeah,it doesn't take much to wake me. I'm diabetic, and it's tough to keep my sugar in check overnight. I'm constantly up and down either checking where I'm at, or I'm low and have to drink something to boost my sugars, or I'm high and have to take another shot to drop it down. Then when I'm high I have to piss a lot. In between I'm trying to get all the sleep I can....I don't need another thing waking me up.
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Yeah,it doesn't take much to wake me. I'm diabetic, and it's tough to keep my sugar in check overnight. I'm constantly up and down either checking where I'm at, or I'm low and have to drink something to boost my sugars, or I'm high and have to take another shot to drop it down. Then when I'm high I have to piss a lot. In between I'm trying to get all the sleep I can....I don't need another thing waking me up.
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sorry to hear that bro......
Is this auto or do i turn it on inside settings? I looked everywhere for it and can not find it
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Is this auto or do i turn it on inside settings? I looked everywhere for it and can not find it
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It will trigger automatically based on a few different criteria being met, in particular - the phone has to be left completely still for about an hour for Doze to start.
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It will trigger automatically based on a few different criteria being met, in particular - the phone has to be left completely still for about an hour for Doze to start.
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Absolutely false information. Doze starts almost immediately after its placed completely still somewhere aka a desk. I've had it sit still for 20 mins and I look at the battery graph and for those 20 mins it was completely flat
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Absolutely false information. Doze starts almost immediately after its placed completely still somewhere aka a desk. I've had it sit still for 20 mins and I look at the battery graph and for those 20 mins it was completely flat
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I'm sorry, but the source code doesn't lie.
My doze seems to kick in pretty quickly as well. I can set it down for about 15 min+ and I can see it flat line in the battery chart. I wish there was an app in the Play Store to tweak the doze settings without root :/ I Kind of want doze to start within minutes and not have the movement turn it off.
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I'm sorry, but the source code doesn't lie.
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It might not be "doze" but my phone battery begins to see a straight line after about 15-20 mins of being inactive.
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Absolutely false information. Doze starts almost immediately after its placed completely still somewhere aka a desk. I've had it sit still for 20 mins and I look at the battery graph and for those 20 mins it was completely flat
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It doesn't start immediately, what you are noticing is likely just the low power consumption of the display being off with the CPU scaled back. Doze goes into effect when it realizes the phone isn't being used, meaning it's lying flat with no movement. I wouldn't say it takes an hour, but it doesn't start the instant you turn the screen off and lay it down either.
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Absolutely false information. Doze starts almost immediately after its placed completely still somewhere aka a desk. I've had it sit still for 20 mins and I look at the battery graph and for those 20 mins it was completely flat
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It definitely doesn't work right away. When doze is on, you pretty much do not get any notifications (except phone calls and other priority ones) until you pick up the phone. That means your emails and app notifications would never come on if your phone was still on the desk. And it would be pretty horrible if it worked that way. It would mean having to pick up the phone to fetch new notifications each time lol
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It definitely doesn't work right away. When doze is on, you pretty much do not get any notifications (except phone calls and other priority ones) until you pick up the phone. That means your emails and app notifications would never come on if your phone was still on the desk. And it would be pretty horrible if it worked that way. It would mean having to pick up the phone to fetch new notifications each time lol
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Alarm Clock Xtreme's alarms have failed to go off for me due to Doze. Not a particularly effective alarm clock imho.