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messages in sms threads out of order.

hi, ive been using super hero beta 2 and until yesterday i had no problems. but all of a sudden, every time i got a text, the most recent received message would be put before all of the messages i sent. so in the message thread, the received messages are in order but all together at the top of the thread. my sent messages are in order but all at the bottom of the thread. the messages arent in order of the conversation. its really annoying to always have to scroll up to find what someone has sent me.
i didnt think much of it because i figure a wipe would fix it. today, i wiped and installed the new jacman rom and am still having the same exact problem.
is anyone else having this problem? does anyone know how to fix it? thanks!

this has been an issue for a few people, if t-mobile is doing tower work in your area it will screw with stuff like timestamps(are those correct for both incoming and outgoing?) and order of messages

Are you using the stock messaging or chomp sms? I used to have this same problem with chomp, then I upgraded to JF 1.5 and didn't need chomp anymore. Stock messaging has never done this thus far, but I know how annoying it is.

My nstive messaging app is doing that! It was frustrating as hell I did a wipe, flashed a different Hero rom, and still. I downloaded Chomp it has no issues....its the message app that is doing it to me

I have never had this issue before (except a brief trial of chomp) and then 2 days ago it started happening to me from my gf's phone to mine. I have seen it on a Hero build, a Rogers build, Ion build, and now The Dudes Rogers build. Next step im going to check the clock on her phone and see if that may be part of the issue or something.

The only time I've ever seen this problem is when two texts are sent/received within the same minute, and they would be grouped similar to that. So, for example, if someone sends me two texts within a minute, and I reply twice to those messages, and they would group similar to the original poster.
Have we tried rebooting? Is this present across multiple SMS threads? Using simple stock firmware/messaging app, or even going as far as installing a new messanging app amd seeing those results?
In all honesty, Hero is no where near perfect right now and probably won't be for a long while. It was never meant to go on the G1 so we can't expect perfect results just yet. Try using a different ROM, and see what results you get.
What I think you might want to try first, however, is to not use network provided values for the clock. Try using the phone's clock values. You can change this in Settings->Date and Time. Erase all threads, and chat away. Let me know the results.
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I've been using TheDude's build for over 2 months now, and I've never experienced problems like this. If this is so common place across all these builds, have you seen the same results on a stock build?

birkholze said:
is anyone else having this problem? does anyone know how to fix it? thanks!
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My GF's G1 started having messages appear out of order a couple/few days ago as well. I'm in the Orlando area. I figured it's T-Mobile screwing with the configuration of their messaging servers as someone mentioned earlier. Hopefully it clears up soon.

Time fixes everything

the problem was happening with the stock messaging app. just appeared out of no where. it doesnt even happen on every conversation, it happens to the three or so i text most often. my time stamps in the messages are correct, the other person's messages usually have a pattern of being 4 exactly 4 hours behind, but some times they just get jumbled with random time stamps.
i tried the date & time thing then a restart and im still having the same problem..

Same thing keeps happening to me, I am on the Super Hero v2 build and it also happened to me on the v1 beta build.
I switched back to ION yesterday and it stopped...and switched back and it started instantly again...Coincidence ?
Everyone is saying it's happening on every build, but I have only experienced it on Hero.

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Apparently, as far as my GF has noticed, it is only happening with MY messages to her, not other contacts. I've got Sprint, she's obviously on T-Mobile. Anyone else notice if it's only from certain (non-T-Mobile) customers? I suspect it's a particular SMS exchange server screwing up the timestamps.

When I had this problem it was from a tmobile number(one of my faves) and a verizon number so I'm not sure that its carrier related

[Q] Handcent sms???

did anyone else encountered my problem with handcent sms??
i am in love with this app, but...somehow im unable to send mms to iphone users...its really strange.
had to uninstall it. now im using go sms which is fine but...its not as great as handcent.
since we're all using mt4g's...does this happen on your device too??
plus i was rooted/stock...now im back to unrooted/stock...since i had thought rooting was the issue..urghh, such a waste of time. im a bit reluctant to install handcent again onto my now unrooted device if in case the same issue occurs again...it will be once more, a waste of time.

I haven't ran into that issue, my niece and her husband have the iPhone 3GS and I'm able to send and receive SMS and MMS with them and they are on TMO, wife's best friend has iPhone 4 on AT&T and we are both able to send and receive SMS and MMS with her.

[Q] Text messaging unacceptably slow?

I just got a myTouch 4g, and I've had issues with the speed of accessing text messages. It takes a good 5+ seconds to access a thread to read or respond to texts.
I should probably note that I switched from a Vibrant and backed up my texts with SMS Backup & Restore App, I have about 9k texts with threads of 400+ messages.
Compared to a BB Bold, the time it takes to access messages for me is a deal breaker. I'm hoping that there is something wrong with my phone as I love everything else about it, but I'm strongly considering switching to a Bold within my 2 week return period...
Has anyone else had issues with the text messaging speed??

Never had any issue like that. But I also don't have that many texts. Back up your texts again and clear the phone and try to see how responsive it is when you don't have any saved on the phone.
Also try something other than the stock app to see if that helps
Failing all of that, go to a t-mobile store and try out another mt4g and see if the problem exists.
Hope any of those helps. Sorry to hear about the troubles.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Amegis said:
I just got a myTouch 4g, and I've had issues with the speed of accessing text messages. It takes a good 5+ seconds to access a thread to read or respond to texts.
I should probably note that I switched from a Vibrant and backed up my texts with SMS Backup & Restore App, I have about 9k texts with threads of 400+ messages.
Compared to a BB Bold, the time it takes to access messages for me is a deal breaker. I'm hoping that there is something wrong with my phone as I love everything else about it, but I'm strongly considering switching to a Bold within my 2 week return period...
Has anyone else had issues with the text messaging speed??
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You're using the stock messaging app correct? If you are, use Handcent. Handcent archives them better, so each thread loads faster. I too have 8,000+ texts.

Deleting them helped somewhat but once a thread has a few hundred messages it starts to slow down.
I'm using the stock app, so I'll give Handcent a try to see if that works. I hope so as I'm starting to like everything else about the device more and more.

Any time I bust more than 500 ish in a thread, or about 2k total it becomes sluggish... I just delete them... its whatever, you can save the important SMS somewhere else. Like gmail
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I think you just have waay too many text.

Handcent helped sooo much, the native app is like molasses compared to it.
It still struggles with a large amount of texts but not as much. To solve that I found the "delete old messages" app, which that clears your texts but keeps the last X weeks.
Thanks for all the help! I'm sticking with android now, as the texting is fast enough.

Stock sms app has auto delete old built in as well
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Permanent resolution for Group Texting? Tried it all..

So I bounce between my HD2 (Group Textings on OS works nearly perfect, just a little delay.) and my G2. I recently went back to my G2 due to options for apps. Ive tried Handcent & Go SMS..but they fall so short and have bugs/doesnt work.
Most my friends have iPhones & I still resist. Any permanent 'fixes' or options ive overlooked?

what is your problem with group texting? i cant think of a single rom that the default messaging app didnt support it. even dating back to the ol g1 days. maybe we have different ideas on how group texting should work...

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what is your problem with group texting? i cant think of a single rom that the default messaging app didnt support it. even dating back to the ol g1 days. maybe we have different ideas on how group texting should work...
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If someone includes me in a group text that hes say 5 different iphone #'s in it..If I respond it only gets sent to the original sender, and if I recieve 4 respones from 4 different reciepients itll be 4 individual texts "threads" besides the original one.
Am I missing something?

That's how every group message I've ever used worked. Unless some apps have a way to change that.
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I too have had this problem. I have settled on handcent. It is not perfect but it gets the job done. When I was doing my research some people were having luck with the verizon messaging app......
HammDroid - True group messaging performs more like a group chat. When the message comes through you can see sender and the other recipients of the message. When you reply it gets sent to the group. I believe it has become more popular due to iphone usage...

[Q] Group MMS via stock SMS app issues

So I've got a few friends who use iPhones as well as Android phones and they like to all talk via group text. I wasn't a huge fan myself but I've finally decided to go this route and it's growing on me.
Now here is the issue. When I'm sending one on one to anyone, I've never had a single problem in my house. Service is decent (2-3 bars) but again, no problems. When I'm doing group text (converted to MMS), many times it will just sit there with the little blue circle going round and round. Sometimes it will go through, other times (about 20%) it won't. I've got reception the entire time... but it just sits there doing nothing. Usually I end up copying the text (no attachments either btw), delete the message, then paste and re-send and then voila! - it works.
Any ideas what might be going on? As you can see in my sig, I'm only rooted with CWM, that's it. Is there maybe a better SMS app that would work better with this type of heavy use? I had GO SMS for a bit but honestly I'm not a fan anymore.
Also, is there maybe a way to NOT keep converting every message to MMS because I'm thinking that clearly is part of the issue here. Would love to just keep them as SMS but I fear that group messaging simply won't function that way.

Kadin said:
So I've got a few friends who use iPhones as well as Android phones and they like to all talk via group text. I wasn't a huge fan myself but I've finally decided to go this route and it's growing on me.
Now here is the issue. When I'm sending one on one to anyone, I've never had a single problem in my house. Service is decent (2-3 bars) but again, no problems. When I'm doing group text (converted to MMS), many times it will just sit there with the little blue circle going round and round. Sometimes it will go through, other times (about 20%) it won't. I've got reception the entire time... but it just sits there doing nothing. Usually I end up copying the text (no attachments either btw), delete the message, then paste and re-send and then voila! - it works.
Any ideas what might be going on? As you can see in my sig, I'm only rooted with CWM, that's it. Is there maybe a better SMS app that would work better with this type of heavy use? I had GO SMS for a bit but honestly I'm not a fan anymore.
Also, is there maybe a way to NOT keep converting every message to MMS because I'm thinking that clearly is part of the issue here. Would love to just keep them as SMS but I fear that group messaging simply won't function that way.
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Have you taken the OTA? I'm just wondering as the stock app works great for me. Go sucks because of all the add ons they added last year.
No, because Group MMS is an MMS. It is not an SMS.

Stock rom for me in the texting app was always slow to me and I had issues... I also do HEAVY group chats (2 or 3 groups) throughout the day. Best I found so far is the AOSP Messaging app. (SMS app included in CM10.1 and all AOSP Roms). Theres a port of it for Touchwiz but it doesn't work right when receiving group text from iPhone currently for some reason.

thacounty said:
Have you taken the OTA? I'm just wondering as the stock app works great for me. Go sucks because of all the add ons they added last year.
No, because Group MMS is an MMS. It is not an SMS.
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Yeah I just got my phone last week and it had the latest software on it. And yeah I kinda figured about the MMS, thanks!
WoodburyMan said:
Stock rom for me in the texting app was always slow to me and I had issues... I also do HEAVY group chats (2 or 3 groups) throughout the day. Best I found so far is the AOSP Messaging app. (SMS app included in CM10.1 and all AOSP Roms). Theres a port of it for Touchwiz but it doesn't work right when receiving group text from iPhone currently for some reason.
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hmmm... I'll keep digging around.
Thanks guys!