So I was randomly wondering:
When I back up a rom with CWM/RomManager, does this make a backup useless if I flash to a different version of android?
For example, say right now I'm running a DI18 based ROM and make a backup. I decide to flash to DK28... does this make the backup I made useless (which I'm assuming it does)? If I decided to restore a backup I made of a DI18 rom, would I have to ODIN back to DI18 from DK28 in order to do the restore?
Or do these backups revert EVERYTHING back to the way it was, build, modem, radio and all?
Thanks
Restoring from CWM doesnt restore the kernel, so you would have to reflash the appropriate one if you are changing from one build to another (going from a DK28 rom back to a DI18 rom), but not if you are just switching roms of the same build (going from one DK28 rom to a different DK28 rom). Also, there is currently no way for CWM to flash the modem, so if your changing from DK28 to DI18, you will need to Odin the DI18 modem seperately, or just Odin back to the full DI18 and then restore your CWM backup.
This is what I assumed logic dictates. Thanks for clearing this up.
Heres my situation:
I installed the froyo rom without installing the new CWM first. So i tried renaming the new cwm and replacing it with update.zip to no success, and never reverted back to the old one. Now i decided to revert back to stock, install the new CWM, and than flash the froyo rom. But something went wrong.
I flashed odin stock-i500-vzw-system.tar.md5, and upon reboot it sounds the vzw sound, but stays in the samsung bootup screen, and it won't go into recovery because my update.zip is broken.
My odin for some reason fails every time i try to flash the old recovery, or the old kernels, it only wants to flash system.tar.
Thats as detailed as i can get it for now, any help would be great.
look around for some different stock odin files. i had a hard time with flashing cwm files as my phone just wouldnt accept them for some reason.
i'm gonna try adrenalyn's system.tar, kernel and CWM DI01 package, see if this works. keep fingers crossed
I currently have Clockwork Rec. version 3.0.0.5 orange. I already flashed SRF1.2 onto my Epic, but everything seems to be fine.
Also, I want to install the full loaded version. Do I just put the 7mb zip onto my sdcard and do an install from sd card without wiping/factory reset?
Thanks.
I just updated from 3006 with no problems. I also put the clean Rom on.
Sent from my Epic on Midnight or my Galaxy Tab rooted (feels naked without a ROM)
I updated to the CWM purple (3.0.2.5 i believe), flashed SRF 1.2 and did a CWM backup. After I was getting many FCs, I decided to restore my CWM backup, and now CWM has reverted back to orange. Is this a problem? Will it affect future flashing? Thanks!
I don't think data restore works between CWM versions, so be aware of that. Otherwise 3.1.0.1 (Purple) is the latest and greatest. Be aware if you flash a pre-rooted kernel with a prior version of CWM included, you may wind up with two different versions of CWM installed.
If you're going to use 3.1.0.1 I'd suggest also flashing Clean Kernel or Genocide as those are both updated with 3.1.0.1 reboot recovery.
I have been running AOKP on my Fascinate for a while now, but something wierd is going on with the device. After about a week of running AOKP (I tried the Hacksung ICS builds as well), the Fascinate begins to bootloop, so I have to go through and ODIN (cannot wipe and reflash because it continues to bootloop after wipe and reflash) then flash AOKP again. The process repeats itself after roughly a week of use.
I went back and Odin'ed to 2.3.5, but ever since then, I have been unable to install a working recovery on my device. I can flash the recovery fine (Voodoo, and CWM fixed for CM7), but when it boots up, and I try to flash a file, the screen goes black for a minute, then goes back to the recovery menu, like it is rebooting recovery. I've tried Heimdall and Odin.
Anyone got any tips? Am I just forgetting something?
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in odin did you use the atlas.pit repartition file when you flashed back to stock?
if not then try that. also, which CWM are you trying to flash?
I know my fassy had problems with certain versions, but a 2.5.x version always worked for me no matter what happened to my phone.
This guide always worked for me.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
I downloaded twrp and CM 10.1 CR2 for my MK2 4.3JB galaxy S4.
I made nandroids on the extra then went in used the wipe feature in twrp then loaded cm and gapps. Worked great and I love the ROM.
Went to put back nandroids. Used the wipe feature again then restored nandroid. Bootleg and stuck on the yellow sprint screen. Tried to flash Odin .tar and it started with a ton of FC then said something about data partition.
I had no choice but to factory wipe and I wanted to keep all my internal stuff. The stock to CM worked fine but just doing general wipe did not work to restore my nandroid.
The CM I noticed is 4.2.2. Is this an issue going back to stock 4.3 nandroid ?
I'm restoring the phone completely so it's fresh out of the box then rooting then using twrp to try to get back my old nandroid.
What did I do wrong in the process that caused it to stall on the yellow sprint screen ?
Now that I think about it I did probably a "dirty" flash since. I did not completely factory wipe the phone just the dalvik cache, cache and the last item on TWRP.
Once you go to 4.3...aka MJA or MK2 you cannot go backwards. So that may have been your issue. Try stayin with 4.3 or up
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OK I tried again after wiping, flashing 4.3, rooting, setting up TWRP.
I wiped everything and when I made my nandroids I checked ALL the boxes. I'm currently on CyanogenMod which works fine but I cant restore my nandroid. I wiped all then used restore from my SD card. I have twrp 2.6.3.0 I think.
I'm still getting stuck on the sprint screen. Help !
Don know about checking everything?? I make sure that SE Linux is checked (i use philz) and then save to SD. Have had zero issues so far and I bounce from 4.3 TW to 4.4 AOSP daily. Sorry I've never used TWRP so I cannot begin to help troubleshoot.
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I just want to make sure you are not wiping before you create the nandroid backup. I reread your post and it was unclear. When creating the backup you should not wipe first. Next, when switching between AOSP and Touchwiz things can get tricky. Usually a failure to boot is after doing a nandroid is caused by the kernel not being correct for the rom installed. It would probably be best to keep an AOSP kernel and a Touchwiz Kernel on your sdcard so you can flash it after you restore the nandroid backup to ensure the proper kernel is in place.
Secondly, it was mentioned above that you can't go back to 4.2.2 after going 4.3. This is actually incorrect. You cannot flash a stock tar of an older 4.2.2 rom through odin if you have the MJA (AKA Knox bootloader). You can however flash a 4.2.2 rom using recovery since it does not attempt to change the bootloader.
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I just want to make sure you are not wiping before you create the nandroid backup. I reread your post and it was unclear. When creating the backup you should not wipe first. Next, when switching between AOSP and Touchwiz things can get tricky. Usually a failure to boot is after doing a nandroid is caused by the kernel not being correct for the rom installed. It would probably be best to keep an AOSP kernel and a Touchwiz Kernel on your sdcard so you can flash it after you restore the nandroid backup to ensure the proper kernel is in place.
Secondly, it was mentioned above that you can't go back to 4.2.2 after going 4.3. This is actually incorrect. You cannot flash a stock tar of an older 4.2.2 rom through odin if you have the MJA (AKA Knox bootloader). You can however flash a 4.2.2 rom using recovery since it does not attempt to change the bootloader.
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I don't think I wiped before making the nandroid, but I'm not sure. I have the Sprint GS4, and the nandroid was a 4.3 (Dec 2013) firmware.
Can you help me out here, I'm really lost. Do I need to flash a Touchwiz kernel on top of the nandroid through TWRP (flashing multiple zips) ? Where do I get the kernel ?
Made a nandroid of my Cyanogen Mod. Wiped phone and restored Cyanogen Mod nandroid. No problem. Worked fine. Just the original that I made is not working.
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Made a nandroid of my Cyanogen Mod. Wiped phone and restored Cyanogen Mod nandroid. No problem. Worked fine. Just the original that I made is not working.
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There are a lot of people that have had problems switching between Cyanogen Mod and Touchwiz using nandroid restores. It usually is the Touchwiz kernel not being restored when restoring the backup. When you boot up, you won't get past the initial boot screen. If this happens, you should just have to reboot back in to recovery and flash a TW kernel then reboot or after your restore your nandroid backup, just flash the TW kernel before rebooting. Look in the Android Development section for a custom TW kernel or you can try this kernel that unkownforce posted from his Triforce rom: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23321874045862620
cruise350- You are my hero. The nandroid DID come back and is working This has racked my brain all night and I am so so glad that I got my nandroid back.
I do have a few more questions:
1. The Wifi is not working ?
2. It appears that my Sprint is on 3G, and not going to 4G LTE ? Do I need to do something with this ? I also am getting errors trying to update my profile and PRL.
3. Is a custom TW kernel always required to be used, is there a stock Samsung TW kernel ?
Thanks a TON ! I couldn't figure out it for the life of me. Other than that I have been enjoying Cyanogen Mod. Using goomanager it looks like some CM versions are not flashable with TWRP and only by Clockworkmod.
on some roms i know that if you don't use the kernel that comes with it the wifi doesn't work. maybe try stock? in your mobile network settings, is your preferred network type "lte/cdma/evdo'? i'm sure there's a stock kernel on the forum somewhere.
It was set on global, so I switched it thanks for the heads up. Wifi still out of commission though. Once I get this set up, I'm eager to try new ROMs. I'm still on the fence about TWRP though. It's a nice interface vs. Clockwork, but it seems like most files out there cater more to CWM
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It was set on global, so I switched it thanks for the heads up. Wifi still out of commission though. Once I get this set up, I'm eager to try new ROMs. I'm still on the fence about TWRP though. It's a nice interface vs. Clockwork, but it seems like most files out there cater more to CWM
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i can't really give advice on that since all i've used is cwm. idk what kernel that one is, but i think it now comes with kt-sgs4. maybe the one from before? i looked around and i couldn't find a stock kernel by itself for mja or later. if you extract the boot.img from a stock rom the kernel and ram disk are in there. how easily you could screw up your phone doing that is beyond my experience, so maybe try a different custom kernel and wait for somebody else's advice for the boot.img thing?
Wifi AND booting (as @cruise350 mentioned) are almost always a kernel issue.
What ROM are you actaully on?
How did you get there, your nandroid?
What kernel are you now using and how did you flash it?
Have you tried gonig into settings, turning off wifi, wait a moment and then trying to turn back on?
Sounds like you should flash a stock(based) TW ROM and go from there. That often clears up connection issues.
Also might want to set your 'network type' back to automatic.
As for CWM and TWRP both are superb just make sure you follow the ROM developers recommendation as to which to use. (Philz is a CWM based recovery). There are .tars and zips of the latest of each here in these forums.
Please spend some time here reading, searching and then reading some more. You will find all the answers to your questions and it will give you a huge grasp of what is what and how to do things properly.
Good luck.
I am currently on the L720VPUEMK2 ROM 4.3 for Sprint. Android version 4.3 (Dec 2013 update).
I used TWRP 6.2.3.0 to flash Cyanogen Mod 10.2 nightly version (not sure if matters specifically which one).
My kernel was from TriForceKernel on the link above. It says 3.4.0-gb72521e-dirty. I flashed it after I flashed my recovery after wiping the device including internal data, cache, dalvik cache via install .zip in TWRP then rebooted.
The phone has loaded up but does not seem to be toggling between 4G LTE and the wifi is busted. I checked my nandroid and it says there is a boot file in it.
When I created my nandroid, I checked all the boxes, then slide the toggle which was supposed to create a back up for all 6 segments. I'm not sure why the boot.img isn't loading, it's part of the recovery that saved it. The settings seem to be as I left them....there are just some little things that are problematic.
I have a boot.emmc and boot.emmc.win both that are part of the nandroid recovery that has been flashed yet it gets stuck on the splash screen.
Well I'd just wipe and try any one of the FIVE TW ROMs that have been dropped in the last 7 days.
Trying to fix whatever is your issue could take hours or days.
Wiping completely (as per whichever dev's ROM you choose), installing said ROM, and starting from scratch will assure you phone works AND give you the best chance to get stuff working.
I dirty flash, restore and install ROMs all the time.
However When I absolutely want to know I'll have a good working ROM I clean flash. Wipes, setup, let Google restore apps, debloat restored (and stock apps!) then setup each setting and app to my liking. Titanium comes in real handy - after all my apps are re-downloaded I can selectively restore data to those that need it (Kindle, newsreader, SMS, Call Logs etc.)
Try that - installing clean new ROM and see what happens. Then go from there. Or don't and spend another couple days without a completely working phone.