Bell Vibrant questions.. - Vibrant General

Hi everyone.. happy holidays!
So I got a Vibrant the other day and wanted to remove the Samsung default apps. I started playing around with rooting, etc without realizing that the Bell Vibrant is slightly different than the T-Mo version.
That being said, I have some questions:
1) how do I know if I've really rooted the phone? I used SuperUser and OCLG says it can "unroot" the phone - Should I assume the rooting was successful?
2) beyond rooting, I would like to install a clean ROM on the device. Do any Bell Vibrant users have experience with this in terms of successfully working devices?
That's it for now... thanks for helping a newb.

For number 1, using apps that require root, such as AdFree or Titanium Backup requires superuser. If you are able to use those, then your phone should be rooted.

great - titanium works from what I can tell so I should be good there.
Any suggestions for some ROMS that should work on the Bll Vibrant?

Sorry, can't help you there as I have a T-mobile Vibrant.
Maybe search previous threads that pertain to Bell Vibrants and the ROMs it can run.

I think you would have better on the samsung galaxy s GT-I9000 section. the bell vibrant is actually more similar to that then the US vibrant. There are bell vibrant roms in that section. Also the bell vibrant is labled by samsungs production code as the GT-I9000M. See any similarities?
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Vibrant Custom Q's

It seems like the custom ROMs out right now are for the international version, right?
There should be ROMs coming for US-specific (IE, Vibrant), correct? I just don't want to get something I cannot customize. What scares me is that Samsung will update it to 2.2 and not release 3.0 later on?
Coming from the Touch Pro 2 scene where there are lots of variations as well, there should be roms that are compatible with multiple handsets and even some geared towards specific phones. Additional add-ons might be required for button layouts or something but I'm not sure how it works since I am speaking with experience only in the Windows Mobile area.
Regarding the update, it's really hard to tell since we don't even have the 2.2 update yet. But hopefully, they'll continue to support the Galaxy S as it's Samsung's direct iPhone competitor.
We should be able to flash any firmware for the galaxy s including the modaco rom. The real question is will we be able to get a hacked recovery to stick like amon_ra or cynogen ? Ps my phone comes this week im freaking excited!!
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blackerwater said:
We should be able to flash any firmware for the galaxy s including the modaco rom. The real question is will we be able to get a hacked recovery to stick like amon_ra or cynogen ? Ps my phone comes this week im freaking excited!!
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I'm excited to and I'm exited to be apart of building the vibrant section hopefully can atleast beat out the captivate and fascinate page
Thursday morning I'm waking up early and picking this baby up. I hope we can gain root the same way as the international version.
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same going to be at the store 9 am to pick it up then head straight to xda for a root and a cfw that would be a dream
Hopefully the source code that was released by Samsung for the Galaxy S is the same for the Vibrant, which I see no reason why it would change but it is Samsung. If it is, I will help to port CM6 over to the Vibrant. The source code from Samsung that I downloaded yesterday has from what I could see with my quick glance over the drivers (baseband, sound, screen, etc) that would be needed to bake up a custom ROM.
That would be so awesome. I really don't care about samsung supporting this phone, as long as they let devs do their thing. Meaning not to lock up anything ala droid x
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9am est on Thur July 15th.. It will be mine
It doesn't matter if they don't officially update it to 3.0, when there is root, there is a way!
BigWorldJust said:
It doesn't matter if they don't officially update it to 3.0, when there is root, there is a way!
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not nessecarily true lol, take a look at the Motorola Milestone for an example, they have had root for a long time now, but cant load a custom rom due to an encrypted bootloader.
That's why I'm saying that if samsung doesn't do it, let the community have what it needs to do it themselves, look at cyan. My g1 should've been obsolete a year ago, but on the contrary its as strong as it was when I first rooted it.
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gothdroid said:
Hopefully the source code that was released by Samsung for the Galaxy S is the same for the Vibrant, which I see no reason why it would change but it is Samsung. If it is, I will help to port CM6 over to the Vibrant. The source code from Samsung that I downloaded yesterday has from what I could see with my quick glance over the drivers (baseband, sound, screen, etc) that would be needed to bake up a custom ROM.
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If the drivers are there, 90% of the work is done. We'll have the latest roms (barring some unlikely extreme performance requirements).
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That's why I'm saying that if samsung doesn't do it, let the community have what it needs to do it themselves, look at cyan. My g1 should've been obsolete a year ago, but on the contrary its as strong as it was when I first rooted it.
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Haven't checked in a while but the Behold 2 was a pain in the ass to root. And Samsung said that they didn't want people hacking their phones. That was a few months ago, since I don't have the phone I haven't checked back. I'm getting this bad boy and hopefully there will be a lot of support for it.
It's really easy to root the vibrant
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Can the bootloader be unlocked?
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disturkis4u said:
It's really easy to root the vibrant
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Second that. Took me 1 minute. Maybe less, LOL. Running tests, everything seems to be working, SU permisions et al.
Not sure on boot, but it seems that Samsung didn't even try to make it hard.
I went back to winmo for a while, and while the HD2 community is great, have to say glad to be back on android.
speoples20 said:
Haven't checked in a while but the Behold 2 was a pain in the ass to root. And Samsung said that they didn't want people hacking their phones. That was a few months ago, since I don't have the phone I haven't checked back. I'm getting this bad boy and hopefully there will be a lot of support for it.
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The behold 2 wasn't too bad to root me and kam187 had it rooted shortly after it launched. The custom roms part was the hard part lol.
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The fact that modaco has a custom ROM out indicates that it's probably going to be fairly easy for us.

Are we ever going to get 2.2

I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
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It will get 2.2 eventually, but only time will tell how long. If we can get kernel source for the I500 phones, we should be able to get you a working kernel, and you may be able to use one of the Fascinate Froyo ROMs then. The biggest problem you'll have is getting the kernel until Samsung releases the OTA or source because of the different video driver used for the screen/ticker/soft keys.
lincoln3823 said:
I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
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I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??
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I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??
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Well it was said that samsung was charging carriers to release ota firmware updates. I don't know how much it is true but I'm starting to believe the rumors.
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If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.
sytech55 said:
If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.
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There is only 1 con of rooting. Having to re-root after an OTA update
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Yea are no cons every since I rooted my phone. I was able to freeze all of verizon garbage freeing up memory thats usually taken by crap that I don't use eg. skype and you can root and unroot as many times as you like
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I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?
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I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?
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If you want, I could make a tutorial much like my one for CWM. It might take me a bit to edit it though, but better late than never XD
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Tutorials are always great. I'd love to see it.
BTW, I rooted my phone using SuperOneClick. It worked perfectly and I've verified it using Root Checker. Now my next step is I want to remove or freeze the bloatware.
I'll direct future non Subject (Are we ever going to get 2.2) related questions to appropriate Threads posting.
I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!
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I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!
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There is no leaks available yet so the only way to get to 2.2 is to wait, or hope that Adrynalyne can get a leak.
But both imnuts and Adrynalyne are both working on custom roms so there will be some love for the continuum
Continuum
It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?
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It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?
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samsung submitted ec17 for the fascinate to verizon...and apparently that is still in testing...im just gonna assume it ll fail testing like most of their updates and never come out
the fascinate root crowd no longer really cares though as the mesmerize 2.2 officially came out w/ source....
but it seems like continuum updates follow quickly behind fascinate updates...so if hypothetically a fascinate ota occured like this week then it would probably be soon after for the i400
Ok, I was just fine tweaking 2.1 for now until something happened and we finaly got 2.2+, since Eclair isn't really that bad. Now I am starting to see 2.2+ only apps (ones that I want to try mostly) and it's starting to make me less patient. It saddens me since this phone had so much potential with the decent hardware and interesting ticker feature, but it is quickly being left in the dust as the little android that couldn't... /sadpanda
Looks like Samsung has released the Froyo source code for the Fascinate... that could be a good sign... Of course, isn't there a Fascinate on Rogers (Canada) that has had Froyo for awhile?
I know I saw it on android central and I got excited but then again we did get left behind once before
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So how do I back up my existing rom. I'd liked to try the non bloated dl17 but want to make sure I can still get back to original if need be.
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Looks like the Fascinate update will start rolling out tomorrow.... Here's hoping we're not far behind.
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Where did you get this info?
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[Q] Recomendations for flashing brand new MyTouch 4g?

I have used Nexus phones for the longest time but as I got a tablet (first Galaxy Tab and now I have a 10.1 coming) I find myself using the smart part of the smart phone very little. That said, my thinking is I am sitting on several hundred bucks I do not really use in my Nexus S so I sold it on E-Bay and took advantage of a T-Mobile deal that got me the MyTouch 3G for free (well, for extra $10/mo for contract cost).
So now I am back to a phone with Android hacked up by carriers and even though I do not use it as I once did there are several very annoying things (apps I cannot uninstall, MyFavs instead of starred in Android, and other stupid carrier crap). Anyways, i was thinking of just going with Cyanogen to try to get back to Android my way, or at least not T-Mobile's way. Any suggestions on if Cyanogen is the right MOD for this phone - all I really want is something as close to vanilla Android as possible with the least hassle possible. Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
Thanks in advance for the info.
SWBgHz said:
I have used Nexus phones for the longest time but as I got a tablet (first Galaxy Tab and now I have a 10.1 coming) I find myself using the smart part of the smart phone very little. That said, my thinking is I am sitting on several hundred bucks I do not really use in my Nexus S so I sold it on E-Bay and took advantage of a T-Mobile deal that got me the MyTouch 3G for free (well, for extra $10/mo for contract cost).
So now I am back to a phone with Android hacked up by carriers and even though I do not use it as I once did there are several very annoying things (apps I cannot uninstall, MyFavs instead of starred in Android, and other stupid carrier crap). Anyways, i was thinking of just going with Cyanogen to try to get back to Android my way, or at least not T-Mobile's way. Any suggestions on if Cyanogen is the right MOD for this phone - all I really want is something as close to vanilla Android as possible with the least hassle possible. Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
Thanks in advance for the info.
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Cyanogen is pretty good and bloat free if you like sense I would go with virtuous unity a near perfect rom.
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SWBgHz said:
Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
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Methods for flashing ROMs? The only way to flash anything is in recovery mode. You have to root your phone and install ClockworkMod recovery, then you'll be able to install ROMs.
Once that's done, I would try CyanogenMod or RoyalGinger, since you want the plain Android UI.
SWBgHz said:
I have used Nexus phones for the longest time but as I got a tablet (first Galaxy Tab and now I have a 10.1 coming) I find myself using the smart part of the smart phone very little. That said, my thinking is I am sitting on several hundred bucks I do not really use in my Nexus S so I sold it on E-Bay and took advantage of a T-Mobile deal that got me the MyTouch 3G for free (well, for extra $10/mo for contract cost).
So now I am back to a phone with Android hacked up by carriers and even though I do not use it as I once did there are several very annoying things (apps I cannot uninstall, MyFavs instead of starred in Android, and other stupid carrier crap). Anyways, i was thinking of just going with Cyanogen to try to get back to Android my way, or at least not T-Mobile's way. Any suggestions on if Cyanogen is the right MOD for this phone - all I really want is something as close to vanilla Android as possible with the least hassle possible. Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
Thanks in advance for the info.
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you are aware that this is the MyTouch4G department. They are two completely different phones. Rooted two totally different ways.
1) if you are still on Android 1.5/1.6 you need to download/install/run Universal Nandroot. It will root your phone. Then download Clockwork ROM Manager and flash the recovery image and flash away. CM stopped development @ CM6. But due to RAM requirements for that phone and 2.1 you'll need to install and run SWAPPER2. It's a good app. and you'll be good to go.
2) if you are on the 2.1 updated version. you should be able to download Super One Click Rooter and do it that way. then download CWRM and flash the recovery image. If that still falls short you can always visit the MyTouch3G section of this forum, and you should find something there.
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you are aware that this is the MyTouch4G department. They are two completely different phones. Rooted two totally different ways.
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I saw that too, but the thread title says 4G, so I assumed it was a typo. Who knows with some people though...
TeeJay3800 said:
I saw that too, but the thread title says 4G, so I assumed it was a typo. Who knows with some people though...
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LQTMS
you hit the nail on head. I know they are still selling the Glacier, but they are giving away the Magic. So when i saw free i assumed the Magic and the 10 bucks is for the data pack.
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LQTMS
you hit the nail on head. I know they are still selling the Glacier, but they are giving away the Magic. So when i saw free i assumed the Magic and the 10 bucks is for the data pack.
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Haha yeah, very possible.
SWBgHz said:
I have used Nexus phones for the longest time but as I got a tablet (first Galaxy Tab and now I have a 10.1 coming) I find myself using the smart part of the smart phone very little. That said, my thinking is I am sitting on several hundred bucks I do not really use in my Nexus S so I sold it on E-Bay and took advantage of a T-Mobile deal that got me the MyTouch 3G for free (well, for extra $10/mo for contract cost).
So now I am back to a phone with Android hacked up by carriers and even though I do not use it as I once did there are several very annoying things (apps I cannot uninstall, MyFavs instead of starred in Android, and other stupid carrier crap). Anyways, i was thinking of just going with Cyanogen to try to get back to Android my way, or at least not T-Mobile's way. Any suggestions on if Cyanogen is the right MOD for this phone - all I really want is something as close to vanilla Android as possible with the least hassle possible. Also, I know there are many methods for flashing ROMs - recommendation on the easiest and most reliable?
Thanks in advance for the info.
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i used the method found on theunlockr.com it worked first try and ive never rooted a phone before and have no prior knowledge about how to do it. i used a few roms. iced glacier first then a few others but have stuck with Faux's AOSP rom. its been by far the most stable and the best performing. i get the best benchmarks as well as the best battery life. your best bet is to read read and read some more. then when you think you've read enough, read a whole s**t ton more.
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you are aware that this is the MyTouch4G department. They are two completely different phones. Rooted two totally different ways.
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Typo on my part - I have myTouch 4g.
I looked at Virtuous Unity and it seems nice and clean - anyone have any warnings about that ROM?
So I got it rooted easy enough and loaded Cyanogen 7. Going to load up Virtuous Unity now that I got the process down and see how that one looks. Thanks for the info - it is much easier now than it was a few years back when I last bothered with customer ROMs.
All the sense roms have to much bloat. Try cm7 or fauxs AOSP.
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Absolute easiest and safest way
You don't have to flash a custom ROM to get rid of the bloatware on a MT4G and beat it back to the simplicity of a Nexus One (almost). Because the MT4G is still on 2.2.1, Visionary will still work to temproot and then you can use Titanium Pro to "freeze" the bloatware you don't want to see. Once you've frozen the apps they stay frozen whether you temproot again or not. If you want to use some apps that require rooting though, such as Quickboot, you can set Visionary to temproot whenever you boot. Visionary r11 seems to work better than r14 on the MT4G.
Using the above simple and reversible method, plus a custom launcher, I've got the Apps drawer and home screens to look pretty much as they do on my Nexus One on 2.2.1. You are stuck with the HTC idiotic phone screen ("faves") and the useless Genius button but you get in return a front facing camera and 4G speed.
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You can flash Virtuous Unity. It's an excellent ROM. And MT4G is powerful enough to run anything, and not resort to AOSP-style ROMs.

Nexus S has 2.3.2 never has let me updated...is this because I'm using it on ATT?

If I put a sim card from sprint in it would my phone update? I just see that everyone at least came with 2.3.4 and mine didn't. I believe it came from a Canadian based cellphone provider. I use ATT. And I wanna know what's up with the updated without rooting. I am fimilar with jailbreaking Iphones and this is my first Android phone I did have a Vtab1008. Is there a simple way to root this phone without a huge risk of messing it up if so, I would really appreciate some help with that too.
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The sprint network and Ns4g don't use sum cards, also the NS4G variant hasn't gotten the ICS update yet. On top of this the ICS update got pulled I read over cpu and battery usage.
There are many guides for rooting, check the dew section. Not the NS4G dev section however.
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Debating on Rooting the S4

Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.
I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.
Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).
Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol
How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?
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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
jejb said:
There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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jejb said:
You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do

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