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Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
If you have a rooted G1 (reading your sig) wouldn't the answer be self explanatory?
Eclair~ said:
If you have a rooted G1 (reading your sig) wouldn't the answer be self explanatory?
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Did you even read my question?
What does my Sig have to do with my question?
I have a Nexus One and I don't want to miss future updates, such as "Adobe Flash" which is a proprietary app and I don't want to miss out.
If you install ROMs, I assumed you would know that you cannot receive OTA updates anymore. Which I'm sure you do. I don't know personally if rooting your phone, and still using the stock system will disable you from receiving OTA updates. So I'm not of use here. Don't know why I posted here myself lol. Thanks for the harshly toned text ._.
Eclair~ said:
If you install ROMs, I assumed you would know that you cannot receive OTA updates anymore. Which I'm sure you do. I don't know personally if rooting your phone, and still using the stock system will disable you from receiving OTA updates. So I'm not of use here. Don't know why I posted here myself lol. Thanks for the harshly toned text ._.
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kthanx. I think.
BookCase said:
Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
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i'm also interested in this question. i would like to root my n1, but i would also like to receive OTA updates from google. i don't plan on installing a custom ROM, just use stock and root for the purpose of wifi tether and a few other root apps. anyone?
I am wondering this as well. I installed the bacon addon from cyanogen and don't want to screw myself out of the ota updates.
Thanks.
You can't have everything people. Pick one. If you need to revert back, I wrote a tutorial.
Chances are you are going to see the updates here first. You guys should know that already unless you are one of those people that come in here, download an update and leave for a few months and recheck to see if there are any other updates.
seraph1024 said:
You can't have everything people. Pick one. If you need to revert back, I wrote a tutorial.
Chances are you are going to see the updates here first. You guys should know that already unless you are one of those people that come in here, download an update and leave for a few months and recheck to see if there are any other updates.
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Sorry, I'm not referring to running a custom ROM. I just want to know if i unlock and ROOT but, keep the original ROM, will I still get the OTA updates or no? So, if anyone knows, I'd gratefully appreciate it.
As far as I understand, as long as you're using the stock, signed Nexus One ROM, nothing would change that would prevent you from receiving OTA updates.
I'm not positive.
The reason custom ROMs do not get OTA updates is because they have the files for them removed, and in the case of the G1, the partition used for doing those is removed if you have the DangerSPL.
Simply rooting and keeping stock should allow you to OTA update still no problem, but like was already pointed out, the updates will be on here befor they are released OTA, and a good cooked ROM is 10times better than the stock.
pjcforpres said:
The reason custom ROMs do not get OTA updates is because they have the files for them removed, and in the case of the G1, the partition used for doing those is removed if you have the DangerSPL.
Simply rooting and keeping stock should allow you to OTA update still no problem, but like was already pointed out, the updates will be on here befor they are released OTA, and a good cooked ROM is 10times better than the stock.
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Thank you.
flomid said:
i'm also interested in this question. i would like to root my n1, but i would also like to receive OTA updates from google. i don't plan on installing a custom ROM, just use stock and root for the purpose of wifi tether and a few other root apps. anyone?
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If you do root and want your wifi to work you have to flash a rom i think, i rooted and didnt plan on flashing a rom but had to to get the wifi working.
did u root with superboot over a modaco, as i had no probs with wifi, after i rooted.
BookCase said:
Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
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Why does this matter??????????????
If you rooted, you'd get the OTA updates faster than OTA people!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a 100% stock, un-rooted N1. I didn't get the OTA update within the first day, so I did it manually anyway.
What is the point of fearing that you'll miss out on OTA updates??? With root, that should be your *LAST* concern.
BTW guaranteed you will get Flash sooner with a rooted phone than without!
These threads make no sense whatsoever.
Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
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Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
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I'm sure right before the update becomes available you'll hear about it and you can always unroot ...
if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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or you can just re-root...correct?
most of the time when an ota update comes out they patch the exploit used to root... this probably will not happen with the galaxy s series phones... 1)Samsung intends to sell 10 million of these phones... 2)It wasnt an exploit, it was left open to begin with
I'm not even sure if T-mobile cares. They allow their customers to post information about rooting their phones on their own forum.
I would post the link but I'm not allowed until my account has been verified.
oh lol, the way i worded my post was inferring that the new update would have "patched" the way to get root, but your responses make me think otherwise lol.
Better safe than sorry if Root is important to you. Wait for a guinea pig to update and verify if root is still an option or not.....
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.[/QUOTE]
Is add free really that important? If you don't want a 3mm bar on your screen buy the app. I click the add every time I open an app that is free. If you don't then all the dev will make apple apps... Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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bauerlucas said:
Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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He didn't ask you.
disturkis4u said:
Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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Looks like this is the case for the moment. Maybe we will see something soon though, but I still would like to know about my questions.
Charles Sloan said:
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
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Rather then making another thread about this, id just like to ask it here.
i know this has been asked about a million times, but i need to make in a million and one.
im rooted, clockwork recovery, mobile ap installed, and JAC kernel. I do not have any custom roms installed. Because of the custom kernel, im guessing that will keep me from receiving OTA?
So i was following those announcements about the froyo official update leak, so I went ahead and downloaded it to my Epic 4G, now they are saying that Sprint announced that the leaked update is not approved and therefore shoukd not be downloaded, I want to unroot my phone, but will it unroot it back to the Eclair version successfully or am I going to have problems with the phone?. I've read about the one click rooting and unrooting, but is it really safe to do so?
Whoa... too much here to cover in a small space. Since this appears to be your first post I suggest you start reading. You have many options and with just about as many pitfalls.
Is your phone working ok? If so, why worry now. Wait for a future update.
tsp
monnie27 said:
So i was following those announcements about the froyo official update leak, so I went ahead and downloaded it to my Epic 4G, now they are saying that Sprint announced that the leaked update is not approved and therefore shoukd not be downloaded, I want to unroot my phone, but will it unroot it back to the Eclair version successfully or am I going to have problems with the phone?. I've read about the one click rooting and unrooting, but is it really safe to do so?
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Yeah it's my first post here, but i've been reading instructions on how to root and unroot. My phone is working perfectly fine with the leaked update. However, when Sprint releases the official update, will the rooted phones receive the announcememnt and will we be able to update it? lol
tsperez said:
Whoa... too much here to cover in a small space. Since this appears to be your first post I suggest you start reading. You have many options and with just about as many pitfalls.
Is your phone working ok? If so, why worry now. Wait for a future update.
tsp
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rooting your phone does not block official ota updates, flashing custom kernels and roms will. also if you do not delete any sprint apps (nascar, telenav) you should not have any problems upgrading to new updates ota.
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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dk28 would be considered a non stock (ie custom) rom
no you will not get the update ota.
TorelliB said:
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
hardrock121 said:
I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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Lots of super fun havoc
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hardrock121 said:
I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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so i did the same thing, downloaded the update.zip file, put it in my memory card and updated the phone using the recovery mode, so i'm not rooted just flashed, and wont be able to get the OTA update from Google?, btw im having a bit of troble with the GPS, when i enable it it say im abot 20 blocks away from my actual location, however, when i connect to a wireless network, per say my home network the location is right 0.o
other than that, the phone is working just fine
OK I will put this out there for everyone so we don't have a million threads going on this subject.
1 If your on DI18 stock and rooted with a simple root method you will get the OTA, you will lose root.Also having CWM installed will not break the OTA but you will lose CWM due to the stock recovery being flashed.
2 If your on a DI18 rom that you have flashed with CWM you will get the OTA but it will fail due to the rom not being stock the OTA zip will check for this and if your not on the stock rom the OTA will fail to install.
3 If you have a stock rom with any bloatware removed the OTA will also fail to install the OTA zip file will check your system to make sure its stock.
4 If you running a leaked Froyo build like DK28 or DK17 or any rom made from those leaks you will probably not get the OTA notification at all you will have to reflash back to stock DI18 to get the OTA.
The best thing to do if your running a rom is to wait on someone to make a flashable zip to convert from DI18 to EB13 or a zip to flash from a DK28 rom to EB13 it might take a day or two to get it converted but it will happen after all this time waiting for it another day or two shouldn't kill anyone.
I have stock DI18, rooted, and do have CWM installed (but never ever flashed any ROMs at all), will I be able to OTA? Sorry I'm still new at this.
Good idea to post this. I doubt it will prevent the morons from creating new threads though, there are already 3 or 4 scattered about on this board. Should probably throw something in there about being able to d/l it over Wifi as I've seen that one asked a lot recently, too.
Will I still be able to play angry birds?
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Will I still be able to play angry birds?
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No I am afraid this will break angry birds sorry.
adelmundo said:
I have stock DI18, rooted, and do have CWM installed (but never ever flashed any ROMs at all), will I be able to OTA? Sorry I'm still new at this.
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If you have CWM installed it will be overwritten by the stock recovery during the flash.
skeeterslint said:
No I am afraid this will break angry birds sorry.
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nooo, I'm gonna suffer from angry birds withdrawl.
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Never update..... stay on di18. Lol
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nooo, I'm gonna suffer from angry birds withdrawl.
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Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
Whats Froyo?
Sorry, had to do it
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I have stock DI18 with root, but I have deleted some of the sprint bloatware, what does that mean for me as far as OTA update, will I still recieve it or will I have to do a song and dance to get it. Any advice would be helpful
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OK I will put this out there for everyone so we don't have a million threads going on this subject.
1 If your on DI18 stock and rooted with a simple root method you will get the OTA, you will lose root.Also having CWM installed will not break the OTA but you will lose CWM due to the stock recovery being flashed.
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So my question is, I have stock DI18 (Odined back from dk28 last night) and rooted using oneclick root with CWM 2.5.whatever(not CWM3). I have read that if you are rooted and want to receive the OTA update you must not have deleted any stock applications. Oneclick root deleted the stupid asphalt 5 game demo and I am wondering if this is considered a stock app that may affect the result of downloading the update.
edit: just saw the post above mine after i finished writing this one!
jspsuperman said:
I have stock DI18 with root, but I have deleted some of the sprint bloatware, what does that mean for me as far as OTA update, will I still recieve it or will I have to do a song and dance to get it. Any advice would be helpful
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Did you read the OP or just read the title and start mashing the keyboard with your face? I can understand missing things in the 1000 page threads, but man it's only one page. Use your good eye!
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3 If you have a stock rom with any bloatware removed the OTA will also fail to install the OTA zip file will check your system to make sure its stock.
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So my question is, I have stock DI18 (Odined back from dk28 last night) and rooted using oneclick root with CWM 2.5.whatever(not CWM3). I have read that if you are rooted and want to receive the OTA update you must not have deleted any stock applications. Oneclick root deleted the stupid asphalt 5 game demo and I am wondering if this is considered a stock app that may affect the result of downloading the update.
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+1 ^^^
Seems to be a conflict of criteria...is asphalt demo not considered a "stock" app? If it is, then by the OPs criteria even havin root would break the OTA since one-click removes asphalt...
A little clarification please?
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I think the main point is everyone should just wait until a cooked up rom is released....who cares if you get the OTA? Ultimately, aren't you just going to put a custom rom/kernel on your phone anyway?
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Demianwulf said:
I think the main point is everyone should just wait until a cooked up rom is released....who cares if you get the OTA? Ultimately, aren't you just going to put a custom rom/kernel on your phone anyway?
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I'm gonna say this one more time. SOME of us just want to have the littlest, simple satisfaction of receiving the cool little feature of an Over-The-Air upgrade. Because really, how many times does it happen? Its like I want to go outside when there's a comet passing by. Yes, I could just pop in a DVD about comets with nice high-def imagery and commentary by Morgan Freeman, but I didn't actlly DO it.
So do not deny nor judge this opportunity for us. If you cant , then don't post here. The thread isn't titled "why the hell would you retards do an ota just wait for some warezzzzzzzzz! Lolzzzzzzzz!" So contribute if you can, otherwise don't.
Plus....SOME of us have been on a 2006 winmo powered brick for the past 5 years and we got to miss out on this fancy little thing called a firmware upgrade...over the air! OVER THE AIR!
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What should someone do to prepare for the OTA
Well as someone said above, not every one has gone through a OTA update (I came to the EPIC from a true PALM when the software was really worth something) and some guidance may keep us from having major problems.
The only thing I could think of was to backup my EPIC. I used MyBackup Pro and backup to both my card and online. Anything else I should do????
George
Thanks for the detailed informed post. We need more like them.
I figure this is the best place to ask this.
I am stock and rooted with one click. I am not running any custom roms. Will there be a stock/rooted release that I can dl from this site or am I going to need to odin back to complete stock and take the OTA update. The majority of what I have been reading is to let your rom maker create a new one. Since I don't want a custom Rom yet, will I be able to get the stock/rooted update.
Thanks!
bgreiwe said:
I figure this is the best place to ask this.
I am stock and rooted with one click. I am not running any custom roms. Will there be a stock/rooted release that I can dl from this site or am I going to need to odin back to complete stock and take the OTA update. The majority of what I have been reading is to let your rom maker create a new one. Since I don't want a custom Rom yet, will I be able to get the stock/rooted update.
Thanks!
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After the OTA starts going out there will be one up on this site pre-rooted and complete stock within like 5 hours.
Awesome... that waswhat I wanted to hear. I will try out roms eventually butwant to see stock first.
Hi people!
I'm thinking about revert my A500 back to pure stock ROM.
But, my plan is get a package from here and remove some kind of bloatware, like the included games, Aupeo, Lumiread and so on. But none of the Acer stuff.
This way, can I be able to still get OTA updates?
Thanks!
If you load a complete stock rom .. and remove anything that acer put on it you will Likely be able to accept the OTA S BUT will not be able to install them.. They check against every app that was pushed by them one missing or frozen . NO GO..
This has been how past updates have worked.. You can freeze apps . ROOT REQUIRED.. then undo your changes to get the ota ..
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If you load a complete stock rom .. and remove anything that acer put on it you will Likely be able to accept the OTA S BUT will not be able to install them.. They check against every app that was pushed by them one missing or frozen . NO GO..
This has been how past updates have worked.. You can freeze apps . ROOT REQUIRED.. then undo your changes to get the ota ..
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Actually, they check the checksums if I'm not mistaken. But erica_renee is correct, if you mess with the stock it will not install the OTA. It might see the OTA and download it, but won't install or it might not even see it.
I rooted on 3.1 to remove bloat before accepting the 3.2 update and the update worked as advertised. It was a waste of time though, the OTA reinstalled the bloat, so you're probably better off with a rooted stock rom if you want the most current version without bloat. I wish I had stayed rooted on 3.1 and flashed a rooted stock 3.2 instead of unrooting for the OTA.
I know this is my first post but please take my word on this, you'll be stuck withthebloat after an OTA.
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Actually, they check the checksums if I'm not mistaken. But erica_renee is correct, if you mess with the stock it will not install the OTA. It might see the OTA and download it, but won't install or it might not even see it.
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Thanks, guy!
erica_renee said:
If you load a complete stock rom .. and remove anything that acer put on it you will Likely be able to accept the OTA S BUT will not be able to install them.. They check against every app that was pushed by them one missing or frozen . NO GO..
This has been how past updates have worked.. You can freeze apps . ROOT REQUIRED.. then undo your changes to get the ota ..
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Nice to know, it's really new to me! Thanks!
nifterific said:
I rooted on 3.1 to remove bloat before accepting the 3.2 update and the update worked as advertised. It was a waste of time though, the OTA reinstalled the bloat, so you're probably better off with a rooted stock rom if you want the most current version without bloat. I wish I had stayed rooted on 3.1 and flashed a rooted stock 3.2 instead of unrooting for the OTA.
I know this is my first post but please take my word on this, you'll be stuck withthebloat after an OTA.
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I know you're right. It's always good be advised, by whoever may be!