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Ok, so what's the real word on the OTA for rooted users?

None of these random workarounds posted in the dev section by random users who just seem to be guessing at things. Is there any word from a real dev working on allowing currently rooted users to install the OTA without un-rooting or flashing things through fastboot? Either by modifying the .zip itself or by creating a method to flash the provided .zip? I'm tired of seeing posts that read along the lines of "Oh, do this in post X then this in post Y and it SHOULD work, but if it doesn't check post Z and hope things work after that."

Download the nandroid backup that was posted. Restore it using Clockwork, then while still in recovery, choose mounts, and then mount /system, then flash the superuser zip from Koush's rooting tutorial, then you will have the OTA stock + rooted + stock recovery + stock boot + everything.
This is how I was able to upgrade.

Anderdroid said:
Download the nandroid backup that was posted. Restore it using Clockwork, then while still in recovery, choose mounts, and then mount /system, then flash the superuser zip from Koush's rooting tutorial, then you will have the OTA stock + rooted + stock recovery + stock boot + everything.
This is how I was able to upgrade.
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Yes, but I don't want stock recovery. I want to keep ClockworkMod.

Anderdroid said:
Download the nandroid backup that was posted. Restore it using Clockwork, then while still in recovery, choose mounts, and then mount /system, then flash the superuser zip from Koush's rooting tutorial, then you will have the OTA stock + rooted + stock recovery + stock boot + everything.
This is how I was able to upgrade.
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Will that wipe everything?

rashad1 said:
Will that wipe everything?
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Yes. You're restoring a nandroid.

Read this post, pretty much you're rerooting again and another step so it doesn't keep going back to stock recovery. Easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10029098&postcount=2

nxt said:
Read this post, pretty much you're rerooting again and another step so it doesn't keep going back to stock recovery. Easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10029098&postcount=2
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Lemmie reemphasize what I said earlier...
TheBiles said:
None of these random workarounds posted in the dev section by random users who just seem to be guessing at things. Is there any word from a real dev working on allowing currently rooted users to install the OTA without un-rooting or flashing things through fastboot? Either by modifying the .zip itself or by creating a method to flash the provided .zip? I'm tired of seeing posts that read along the lines of "Oh, do this in post X then this in post Y and it SHOULD work, but if it doesn't check post Z and hope things work after that."
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TheBiles said:
Lemmie reemphasize what I said earlier...
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Well you know what? It only takes a minute or two and it's done.

TheBiles said:
Yes, but I don't want stock recovery. I want to keep ClockworkMod.
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From the nandroid backup OP:
"Edit: According to xda member Luxferro the new update introduced /etc/install-recovery which may have not been in 2.3, but anyways, it runs this on bootup, and if the MD5 of the recovery doesn't match what is expected, it reflashes the stock recovery back over, so if you dont want the stock recovery to be flashed everytime you boot if your on clockwork or another non stock rom, just rename it to prevent it from running on boot. And for those of you who want to return your phone back to stock this nandroid will do that for you since it also flashes the stock recovery."

Just wipe and flash Paul's Gingerbread ROM.

TheBiles said:
Lemmie reemphasize what I said earlier...
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Pretty much every time you flash an OTA update you're gonna lose root.
If someone took the time to modify the OTA update so you don't lose root, then it's not an OTA update anymore

irishrally said:
Just wipe and flash Paul's Gingerbread ROM.
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Ended up doing this.
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How to remove CWM please?

Hi
I'm going to update my a500 to 3.1
I have unrootedmy device but how to remove CWM completly????
Please help

Why don't just update via CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154492

1) re root your device
2) go into acer recovery installer and reflash to the backed up recovery (or do the stock recovery for your version)
3) de root.
I had to do this to get my update to work.

Do you know where can I find stock recovery for my version?
I have Acer_A500_1.139.05_COM_GEN1
thank you!
simonsgray said:
1) re root your device
2) go into acer recovery installer and reflash to the backed up recovery (or do the stock recovery for your version)
3) de root.
I had to do this to get my update to work.
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When i installed ARI, it backed up my current recovery. When i went back into ARI, my old recovery was the first option. Sorry, explanation sucks, i don't have screenshots for you. I know there are threads with most of the software/firmware elements of most of the different versions, maybe do some digging? This would be the best place to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126364

Look in system/etc for a filed called install-recovery.sh. if its there change its permission from 444 to 544. Then reboot normally. It'll overwrite cwm with your stock recovery.
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Thanks! I used stock one in ARI, woks good.
simonsgray said:
When i installed ARI, it backed up my current recovery. When i went back into ARI, my old recovery was the first option. Sorry, explanation sucks, i don't have screenshots for you. I know there are threads with most of the software/firmware elements of most of the different versions, maybe do some digging? This would be the best place to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126364
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Euclid's Brother said:
Look in system/etc for a filed called install-recovery.sh. if its there change its permission from 444 to 544. Then reboot normally. It'll overwrite cwm with your stock recovery.
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Hi Euclid, are you able to post a copy of that install-recovery.sh file? I don't seem to have it in my system/bin anymore
...That is assuming the file is not unique to each device??
I'm thinking the reason my OTA update wouldnt install is because i dont have the stock recovery menu.
Thanks!

I really don't get why everyone is spazzing over this... If you've already taken the steps to root and install CWM in the first place, why not just install the stock 3.1 image that's been provided in the dev section? It's 100% stock, no need to wait for Acer to stop twiddling their dangly bits...

Floatingfatman, that is exactly what I did, and it worked perfectly. Good advise!

FloatingFatMan said:
I really don't get why everyone is spazzing over this... If you've already taken the steps to root and install CWM in the first place, why not just install the stock 3.1 image that's been provided in the dev section? It's 100% stock, no need to wait for Acer to stop twiddling their dangly bits...
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Yeah thats what i ended up doing to update it to 3.1.
Reason i want it back to stock is that i couldnt update via OTA at all (downloads fine but install fails at ~20% with the ! in a red triangle).
I was hoping by restoring it to stock the OTA would work, and so any future updates could also be done via OTA as opposed to finding a workaround each time.
Other than that, it's working just fine for now.

Euclid's Brother said:
Look in system/etc for a filed called install-recovery.sh. if its there change its permission from 444 to 544. Then reboot normally. It'll overwrite cwm with your stock recovery.
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I don't understand 'change permission from 444 to 544'. Root Manager lets me choose between, 'Read, Write or Execute'. Could you please elaborate?
Thanks
Never mind. Problem solved.

Sprint People: OTA info

Guys here is some info I wish I had when I got my first Nexus S OTA:
For 95% of you, you don't need to worry about getting the OTA. Only 5% of users get the OTA on day 1. It will be posted on XDA soon after the updates roll out. You will be able to download it and flash it from CWM like any ROM. There will also be rooted versions available.
So think twice before going back to stock to try to get your OTA, it might be a huge waste if time.
My two cents!

matt2053 said:
Guys here is some info I wish I had when I got my first Nexus S OTA:
For 95% of you, you don't need to worry about getting the OTA. Only 5% of users get the OTA on day 1. It will be posted on XDA soon after the updates roll out. You will be able to download it and flash it from CWM like any ROM. There will also be rooted versions available.
So think twice before going back to stock to try to get your OTA, it might be a huge waste if time.
My two cents!
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Thanks! I'm new at this...

The important components will tagged and distributed via xda.
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matt2053 said:
Guys here is some info I wish I had when I got my first Nexus S OTA:
For 95% of you, you don't need to worry about getting the OTA. Only 5% of users get the OTA on day 1. It will be posted on XDA soon after the updates roll out. You will be able to download it and flash it from CWM like any ROM. There will also be rooted versions available.
So think twice before going back to stock to try to get your OTA, it might be a huge waste if time.
My two cents!
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you would be surprised on how many people will still do it tho i want the new radio thats all

shabbypenguin said:
you would be surprised on how many people will still do it tho i want the new radio thats all
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I know, I did when 2.3.4 was released. Then I was sitting there stock ROM, stock recovery, unrooted, waiting.... and then the full ROM, both rooted and unrooted, was posted on XDA way before anyone was really getting OTAs. So I ended up downloading from XDA and installing manually anyway, and I wasted a lot of time "going back to stock!"

You don't waste that much time. 3-5 minutes tops
I like going back to stock every now and then anyway. make me feel that my system is "fresh" again lol

apache2 said:
You don't waste that much time. 3-5 minutes tops
I like going back to stock every now and then anyway. make me feel that my system is "fresh" again lol
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You have to flash stock rom, reboot to get stock recovery, restore all your apps, wait for the ota, download the ota, install the ota, reflash CWM recovery, reflash superuser.... etc.

matt2053 said:
You have to flash stock rom, reboot to get stock recovery, restore all your apps, wait for the ota, download the ota, install the ota, reflash CWM recovery, reflash superuser.... etc.
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If you've already got a stock /system (other than adding superuser), do you really need to reflash a stock rom?

superm1 said:
If you've already got a stock /system (other than adding superuser), do you really need to reflash a stock rom?
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No, not if everything in /system is stock
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can you just restore to stock rooted rom and just get the OTA or do you need to be fully back to stock?

I don't like it re-installing my applications. if I don't remember to re-install it, it wasn't that important.

chewbz said:
can you just restore to stock rooted rom and just get the OTA or do you need to be fully back to stock?
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You don't need to do anything except wait for a flashable zip of the full rom to be posted here in xda, which will likely happen way before you ever get an ota update
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matt2053 said:
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matt2053 said:
You have to flash stock rom, reboot to get stock recovery, restore all your apps, wait for the ota, download the ota, install the ota, reflash CWM recovery, reflash superuser.... etc.
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Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
not too bad

apache2 said:
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
not too bad
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And meanwhile I downloaded the flashable .zip from XDA 3 days ago and flashed it with CWM..... that's my only point.

matt2053 said:
No, not if everything in /system is stock
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okay, I just want to be 100 percent on this. I HAVE unlocked the bootloader/added clockwork and superuser- I have NOT added any custom kernels or roms yet though, can I still take the OTA update and be just fine?
I just want to know 120% if I can leave my phone as it stands with root access but the stock everything. Originally I gained root access simply to do a custom kernel and then BLN- but waited because I was worried the netarchy kernel may provide less than stellar battery life.
sorry for being a rook, Just want to be positive on this.

Quick question if I'm on stock Rom but have the Matr1x kernel can I do OTA with out a problem or should I need to go back completely stock?
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Guys you dont need to get the update OTA, there will be a flashable rooted version of it here. Please read.
I do have a question for someone though as this is my first samsung phone, will the radio(Called a modem in sammy terms?) update be flashable as well? Or do i have to do some odin BS?

Igotsanevo4g said:
Guys you dont need to get the update OTA, there will be a flashable rooted version of it here. Please read.
I do have a question for someone though as this is my first samsung phone, will the radio(Called a modem in sammy terms?) update be flashable as well? Or do i have to do some odin BS?
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More than likely the. Img will be in the zip

The Killjoy said:
okay, I just want to be 100 percent on this. I HAVE unlocked the bootloader/added clockwork and superuser- I have NOT added any custom kernels or roms yet though, can I still take the OTA update and be just fine?
I just want to know 120% if I can leave my phone as it stands with root access but the stock everything. Originally I gained root access simply to do a custom kernel and then BLN- but waited because I was worried the netarchy kernel may provide less than stellar battery life.
sorry for being a rook, Just want to be positive on this.
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You will download the update from XDA and flash it with Clockwork before you would ever get the OTA.

Little bit confused

I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?

dccxviii said:
I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?
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You cannot get root back without a custom recovery. OTA will not relock the bootloader, you'll just lose root and custom recovery.
You need to flash custom recovery using fastboot, then flash superuser to get root back. There are plenty of guides in the stickies describing the process.

Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused

The superuser app checks to see if you have the latest superuser binary and will download and instalk it. Or download superuser from within rom manager.
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Ok..the binary update fails (because i don't have root) so it's chicken and egg as far as I can tell.

You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.

dccxviii said:
Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused
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You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.

albundy2010 said:
You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.
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You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
irishrally said:
You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.
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Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<

dccxviii said:
You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<
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Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.

irishrally said:
Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.
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Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*

dccxviii said:
Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*
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You're welcome.
If you stick with a stock ROM then recovery will reflash every time you reboot. To prevent this you can go to system>etc, and change the file install-recovery.init to something else like install-recovery.init.bak.

Phone's prompting me to take the ZVA update. What do I need to do before accepting?

I am rooted.
TWRP recovery.
Hotspot mod.
I'm guessing updating would put my phone in a boot loop, right? What do I need to do first? Turn off the root and flash a stock recovery? Is that good enough?

ChrisFSU said:
I am rooted.
TWRP recovery.
Hotspot mod.
I'm guessing updating would put my phone in a boot loop, right? What do I need to do first? Turn off the root and flash a stock recovery? Is that good enough?
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Yes, updating will boot loop. If you want the update then you may need to flash the stock ROM to get rid of the hotspot mod.
I have heard this update checks just about everything in the book.
But yes stock recovery, and no root for sure.
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ChrisFSU said:
I am rooted.
TWRP recovery.
Hotspot mod.
I'm guessing updating would put my phone in a boot loop, right? What do I need to do first? Turn off the root and flash a stock recovery? Is that good enough?
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Wrong section don't ask questions in dev forms.
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ChrisFSU said:
I am rooted.
TWRP recovery.
Hotspot mod.
I'm guessing updating would put my phone in a boot loop, right? What do I need to do first? Turn off the root and flash a stock recovery? Is that good enough?
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Im on the same boat but am gonna wait. Unless theres Spark in your area there not much point to do it. Theres lots of issues with the new ZVA update (on rooted and custom recovery phones) and im gonna wait for an easier fix than what is available. The current process is a bit too complicated and not worth it. Ill wait for a simple zip to flash or a totally custom ROM with ZVA already on it. But thats just me.
If you do it... update us on here.

Rename files in fota folder. Freeze the update app.