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From Root to Brick

Well, I forgot to read that a kernel was for 2.2 after downgrading from 2.2 and rooting 2.1. I attempted to install the battery baked snacks kernel and now touchscreen is not recognized menu and home buttons etc do not work. The only thing that works is the up and down key and power. I have tried to push adb factory kernel however cmd prompt is giving me the error cannot locate device. >.<

boot into recovery and restore your last backup

Yeah thats the problem. I just got done rooting there is no back ups arrrghhhh.

Woohoo I fixed ! Under the recovery menu there is a mount option loaded the PC image from the root method and now im back to where I was 2 hours ago lol!

Thats much better than bricked

Agreed. Now I know how to always recover from that though lol.

EVO 4G said:
Well, I forgot to read that a kernel was for 2.2 after downgrading from 2.2 and rooting 2.1.
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Guess you'll be reading everything before flashing next time. Glad you worked it out.

Once again, can we stop throwing the word "bricked" around so casually? I've never seen any bricks with recovery consoles.

SilverZero said:
Once again, can we stop throwing the word "bricked" around so casually? I've never seen any bricks with recovery consoles.
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So, Im thinking If I should ROOT my new evo or wait till an easier on/off ROOT!!! Hmm....

SilverZero said:
Once again, can we stop throwing the word "bricked" around so casually? I've never seen any bricks with recovery consoles.
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Exactly, it's only bricked once you can't get into the bootloader anymore, and even then there is still a small chance of recovery.

donatom3 said:
Exactly, it's only bricked once you can't get into the bootloader anymore, and even then there is still a small chance of recovery.
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Depending on someone's level of experience, having no functionality other than the bootloader screen is bricked. It goes back to the definition of bricked which is simply a loss of function such that the phone is as useless as a brick. It's all semantics and relative to the users level of experience. It all depends on the user's ability to recover the phone.
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Thanks for the back up sombdy. I agree though its not truely bricked, however at that point in time when it happened it might as well have been a "brick," until I learned that I could mount it through the bootloader and adb push the files I needed to fix it.

EVO 4G said:
Thanks for the back up sombdy. I agree though its not truely bricked, however at that point in time when it happened it might as well have been a "brick," until I learned that I could mount it through the bootloader and adb push the files I needed to fix it.
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Just pushing for a little conservatism, that's all. Glad you got things lined up.

sombdy said:
Depending on someone's level of experience, having no functionality other than the bootloader screen is bricked. It goes back to the definition of bricked which is simply a loss of function such that the phone is as useless as a brick. It's all semantics and relative to the users level of experience. It all depends on the user's ability to recover the phone.
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I guess I look as the term bricked = dead. If the heart is still beating and there is a chance to get the brain functioning again then it's not dead aka bricked.
I will say I'm glad the OP wasn't bricked and even more so that he/she was able to figure out the problem on their own and fix it. Always feels better when you do it yourself, and makes you feel more adventurous the next time you have to do something.

If a person can get the bootloader screen, why wouldn't they just be able to flash stock from there as a last resort?

I have to agree. When I bricked my phone it was truly a brick - no power, nada. Just sat there. No lights. No hboot. No white screen.
If you can power on, there's a solution.

Woohoo, flshed and fixed my wife's borked Fascinate

My wife has been nagging me to root and rom up her Fascinate for a while now after seeing me spend hours playing with different roms and mods on my Incredible. She got bored and tried to flash something and "bricked" her phone. Uuhhg guess who gets to fix it? I want to thank you all for the easy to follow directions, I was able to get her on DL09 after following the great guides posted in the forum. Man this phone is a little more tricky than my dInc, but I am in LOVE with the big screen!! Once again, thank you all, my wife finally is happier and stopped nagging me!

Congrats man, thats good to hear. The phone's not really that difficult to mess around with though

kenesis said:
Congrats man, thats good to hear. The phone's not really that difficult to mess around with though
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I'm just use to my phone I guess Odin had me a little nervous (hooking up with the battery pulled and all) but given a little time I'll probably be allot more comfortable with it (until the wife gets bored again).

Just keep in mind that as long as you don't flash anything with the Phone button in ODIN, it's almost impossible to actually brick this phone. Even then it's not technically a brick, as you can still make it bootable; the cellular radio just won't work anymore.

Can we trade wives?

tyler1234567 said:
Can we trade wives?
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I'll let you know as soon as she breaks something else I have to fix

ivorycruncher said:
Just keep in mind that as long as you don't flash anything with the Phone button in ODIN, it's almost impossible to actually brick this phone. Even then it's not technically a brick, as you can still make it bootable; the cellular radio just won't work anymore.
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I was wondering about that; glad I'm good at following directions. Thanks for taming my curiosity on the other buttons

ivorycruncher said:
Just keep in mind that as long as you don't flash anything with the Phone button in ODIN, it's almost impossible to actually brick this phone. Even then it's not technically a brick, as you can still make it bootable; the cellular radio just won't work anymore.
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Thanks for the info!

Awesome, my wife hates my phone. She can't stand hearing about roms and kernels.. I understand why but that just sucks
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I'll let you know as soon as she breaks something else I have to fix
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did i brick my phone?

used unrevoked 3 to root my phone, did a backup, then attempted to install CM6. during the process, my phone shut off (i dont believe it was the battery, as it was fully charged and plugged in). now once in awhile (rarely) if i attempt to boot into recovery, the white htc evo screen will appear for a second or two, then the phone will shut back up.
what are my options?

i wouldn't expect anyone to reply with any real answers until you are more clear about your problems & what you've done already to try & fix them. not to mention, hardware specifics..

exempt said:
used unrevoked 3 to root my phone, did a backup, then attempted to install CM6. during the process, my phone shut off (i dont believe it was the battery, as it was fully charged and plugged in). now once in awhile (rarely) if i attempt to boot into recovery, the white htc evo screen will appear for a second or two, then the phone will shut back up.
what are my options?
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Put this on your SD card. http://db.tt/uo4mOhh remove "_RA_2.2.1" and place on the root of your SD card. Once you get the "white screen" it will re install a recovery. Just make sure you go with it in bootloader (white screen) prompts.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G On The Now Network From Sprint Using Tapatalk Pro!

drdrewdown said:
i wouldn't expect anyone to reply with any real answers until you are more clear about your problems & what you've done already to try & fix them. not to mention, hardware specifics..
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Figured since this was the EVO forums it would be assumed I have an EVO
I havent attempted any solutions yet, as I wanted to be sure of something before trying. As for the problems, what is unclear? Rooted successfully, attempted to flash CM6 and phone went dead and no longer turns on.
So I should use something else to get it on the SD card, then try to start phone?

exempt said:
Figured since this was the EVO forums it would be assumed I have an EVO
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Damn...I thought this post was for a BlackBerry Storm. But on a serious note, he was asking about what hardware version, hboot, etc... Hardware version 002? 003? 004? 007...wait, James Bond?

exempt said:
Figured since this was the EVO forums it would be assumed I have an EVO
I havent attempted any solutions yet, as I wanted to be sure of something before trying. As for the problems, what is unclear? Rooted successfully, attempted to flash CM6 and phone went dead and no longer turns on.
So I should use something else to get it on the SD card, then try to start phone?
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Card reader or other phone.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G On The Now Network From Sprint Using Tapatalk Pro!

tgruendler said:
Damn...I thought this post was for a BlackBerry Storm. But on a serious note, he was asking about what hardware version, hboot, etc... Hardware version 002? 003? 004? 007...wait, James Bond?
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ah, that does make more sense. HW 003, HBOOT is 2.10

Rydah805 said:
Cars reader or other phone.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G On The Now Network From Sprint Using Tapatalk Pro!
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that fixed it! thank you!

exempt said:
that fixed it! thank you!
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no problem. glad i could save your sanity and save you a trip to going to the sprint store then waiting an hour for diagnostics then getting a replacement when you really didn't need anything but a recovery re-flash. =]

[Q] How to Lock up your Nexus one (please read)

I want to demonstrate to someone how the phone can get stuck on something like bootloader or failed rom installations.
I currently have a nexus one with the bootloader still locked (but rooted). I dont want to try anything and render the phone dead. So I want to know if there is a for sure way t put the phone in a mode where it looks as if it doesn't work, yet be able to recover from it easily. Asking for opinions first.
I still want to have my phone maintained such that the bootloader stays locked.
Thanks
C

Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?

cymru said:
Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?
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Didn't think of that. Maybe i should.
No, to make someone understand the process that I go through in updating the phone so that they can stop bothering me while Im doing it.
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I just realized that your post was so condescending. I asked a question and phrased it accordingly, to "demonstrate."
Don't you just love it when people express their opinion not knowing the entire story.
Try opinionating for the better, the next time.
And yeah, don't forget to help out people every now and then.
Thanks for your HELP!
C

haha no worries

If i understand what you are asking, try backing up your rom, then flash completely different rom without wiping. That should by all accounts give you a bootloop.

Might be easier to have them watch some youtube vid's of flashing, rooting, unlocking, etc. They then should get the idea...

I would just nandroid and wipe my phone (I dunno how well that'd go I've never tried it but I don't see how it could totally brick your phone, who knows!)

I don't know if you've got anything flashed on your phone, but if not flash a recovery then yeah, flash any different rom without wiping and you should get boot loops.

Format /system
That should do it... xD

liam.lah said:
If i understand what you are asking, try backing up your rom, then flash completely different rom without wiping. That should by all accounts give you a bootloop.
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I think this is what I will do... thx again.
galaxys said:
Might be easier to have them watch some youtube vid's of flashing, rooting, unlocking, etc. They then should get the idea...
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yeah but I need them to see me cuz they ultimately have to stop bothering me... lol
KAwAtA said:
I would just nandroid and wipe my phone (I dunno how well that'd go I've never tried it but I don't see how it could totally brick your phone, who knows!)
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not sure i get what you mean, "wipe" is a loose term here, wipe is generally associated with "data" wipe so it wont matter, it would just reset my phone to factory settings
ThudButt said:
I don't know if you've got anything flashed on your phone, but if not flash a recovery then yeah, flash any different rom without wiping and you should get boot loops.
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yeah i have blandroid at the moment, will try flashing some cm7 without wiping
danger-rat said:
Format /system
That should do it... xD
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how?

It's an option in Clockwork recovery

Rusty! said:
It's an option in Clockwork recovery
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Cool, i should pay more attention to the CWM recovery options thx

Telling people to not bother you isn't enough?

cymru said:
Turning the phone off makes it look likes it doesn't work.
P.S why are you doing this though? Really? Is it to make someone think their phone is broken so you can buy it cheap then fix it and keep it?
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For the record, I think this is a fair question, and not particularly condescending.
OP: You are asking a legit question, but you have to admit it's a bit of a strange request. You can't blame people for wondering what you're up to, I thought the same thing. Not that you were scamming someone, but couldn't understand why you'd want to do this (I get it now... sort of). It's an impersonal forum, so there shouldn't be any hard feelings.

One thing that constantly caused bootloops in the CyanogenMod forum was to flash the Froyo gapps with a Gingerbread install. Bootloop every time.
You could probably flash a theme that wasn't designed for Gingerbread. I'd bet that would give you a bootloop (especially the further you go back... flash a cupcake theme for a G1 onto an N1 )

Maybe I'm just being cynical but it seems to me that the OP is doing something shady here. He wants to do something that makes no sense and then immediately jumps down the throat of someone who basically calls him for it. His reasoning for why he wants to do this nonsensical thing is also pretty nonsensical. I'd guess he's trying to scam something from someone.

Wylker said:
Maybe I'm just being cynical but it seems to me that the OP is doing something shady here. He wants to do something that makes no sense and then immediately jumps down the throat of someone who basically calls him for it. His reasoning for why he wants to do this nonsensical thing is also pretty nonsensical. I'd guess he's trying to scam something from someone.
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Yes, I completely agree with your first statement. YOU ARE BEING CYNICAL!!!
Ok as an avid lover of my phone (nexus one), I have the right to ask the means of breaking this phone if i'm going to root it and install a ROM which is only supported by the community that helps develop it (that includes primarily folks over at XDA). If you think I'm upto no good, too bad. Assume the worst, do whatever the F*** you want. All I'm trying to do is show my cousin what a bootlooped phone looks like. And apparently each time I am in the process of doing it, he wants to use the pc. He likes killing all the running apps when he's on the PC, and i need to stop him from screwing up something that can potentially f*** up my phone. I often switch from Stock N1 to CM7 to blandroid, and thankfully i follow directions which is why my phone hasn't boot looped til date.
Yes I jumped throat on the 1st person who responded, but look at my response before jumping throat. I didn't really think of the response as condescending, until had posted my answer, hence the edit.
Don't bother posting such crappy posts unless you want to feel like you're getting scolded by the DA's office for wrongful accusation.
C

Well you cannot blame people for coming up with these various speculations. My 2 cents, but you just redirect your energy towards your cousin more rather then get angry over forum post.
The way I see your situation is this. The PC used to flash your phone, who is the owner? If you own it, tell him to wait like a good little boy or he can GTFO of your computer, ban him. Or if the PC belongs to him, maybe it's time you suck it up and respect when and how he wants to use his PC, and flash your phone using another instead. Or maybe get a job and buy your own?
Time to man up. Either you tell him to GTFO of your PC, or you GTFO of his. Simple solution to what I see to a simple matter. No need to complicate things by semi-bricking your phone.
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Either show him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I5XaDAuiEs
OR
Stop trying to make your cousin think he's broken you phone in order to ..
a) get him to pay for a replacement and/or
b) scare the crap out of him

Nexus S 4G Fix in Testing

According to a post from Jerry Hildenbrand over on the Android Central forums, Sprint engineers are currently testing new firmware which will hopefully solve our 3G signal problems and perhaps 4G issues as well (WiFi issues are apparently within Google's realm to fix). From the info here and elsewhere, it appears the original, pre-ship baseband was better than what we have now. Does anyone have this baseband available to flash?
Here's a link to the thread. Look on Page 2 of the thread for Jerry's first post:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/spr...sung-sprint-investigate-nexus-s-problems.html

LOL! What a funny article...I like how they say disappearing pictures are caused by a weak data connection. What the hell would that have to do with something stored on your sd card? Unless there is something Im not aware of...

Radio chips are usually now on the same CPU chip. I'm guessing the radio problems are causing the CPU stall? Maybe?

There is a post that says the radio searching for signal stalls the chip, making pictures temporarily unreadable, leading people to think they have disappeared when they have not.

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There is a post that says the radio searching for signal stalls the chip, making pictures temporarily unreadable, leading people to think they have disappeared when they have not.
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First time ive heard of that, its very odd to me that bad service would affect something showning in your gallery. Wouldnt surprise me though

ronnienyc said:
There is a post that says the radio searching for signal stalls the chip, making pictures temporarily unreadable, leading people to think they have disappeared when they have not.
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You are correct. The chip is busy looking for a radio signal and and stalls the loading of the pics on your sdcard. It takes a few minutes for them to show up and people that didn't let it load thought they were gone.

The build looks to me like it on a gsm nexus. not sure how that would help the 4g

mikeyinid said:
The build looks to me like it on a gsm nexus. not sure how that would help the 4g
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How do you figure? From the photo, the build lists the Sprint version of the device (D720).

davpel said:
How do you figure? From the photo, the build lists the Sprint version of the device (D720).
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it also says full_crespo, not full_crespo4g.

So which is it then? Hmm?

herbthehammer said:
So which is it then? Hmm?
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Take a guess and youll be right

50/50 chance of being....

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mikeyinid said:
LOL! What a funny article...I like how they say disappearing pictures are caused by a weak data connection. What the hell would that have to do with something stored on your sd card? Unless there is something Im not aware of...
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Right!!! what would it have to do with something stored on the SD card? Seeing as the NS4g has no SD card, the problem is extremely credible as everything would be running off the same internal storage

ryandoubleu said:
Right!!! what would it have to do with something stored on the SD card? Seeing as the NS4g has no SD card, the problem is extremely credible as everything would be running off the same internal storage
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WOW, Im wrong again
Maybe I should do research before I share my opinion on things here at XDA.
Or, well, nvm...

hmmm
mikeyinid said:
WOW, Im wrong again
Maybe I should do research before I share my opinion on things here at XDA.
Or, well, nvm...
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I'll forgive you this time, don't let it happen again...
Hopefully they will get some type of resolution soon

you cannot fix a hardware problem.

fixxxer2008 said:
you cannot fix a hardware problem.
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Weren't you the one who kept insisting it was the radio (before you got impatient and jumped ship)? Hey, just because you got no more Nexus love, doesn't mean she can't love us.

mikeyinid said:
LOL! What a funny article...I like how they say disappearing pictures are caused by a weak data connection. What the hell would that have to do with something stored on your sd card? Unless there is something Im not aware of...
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yesh it is funny and just noticed it alot of picutes do not show up in the gallery app, i can stiff see them in a file manager though really silly

Pictures aren't actually being deleted, they're failing to show in the gallery.

BTW, the screenshot clearly says "D720" and "Sprint."