Nexus S now has the spotlight, because of the Google brand, but what does this mean for other devices, especially Samsung Galaxy S phones? One effect is Gingerbread has now been ported from Nexus S to Galaxy S (see their forum).
Why compare the two phones? Their specs aren't far, but they still have their own pros and cons. Looking at the pros that they have in common would also be interesting, like how they share parts (same battery) and software.
Nexus S' advantages over Galaxy S include
Google brand (and the software that comes with it)
NFC
contour display
Nexus S advantages over some Galaxy S units
price (in many cases)
unlocked (vs. some Galaxy S units)
front-facing camera
camera flash
complete 4 buttons (back, home, menu, search)
Galaxy S' advantages over Nexus S include
Micro SD Slot
availability (international + many carriers)
Gorilla Glass
Bluetooth 3.0 (vs. Bluetooth 2.1 on Nexus S)
Other factors are hard to measure, like community support, so feel free to suggest pros and cons then I'll add them to this post.
I was compelled to post this, because of Galaxy S' Micro SD card, gorilla glass, availability here in my area and Nexus S software ports. Would you prefer Galaxy S over the Nexus S?
its a matter of preference
Just a few observations:
1) Vibrant also has Gyroscope as far as i know.
2) Any of the GSM based Galaxy S phones can be easily unlocked for free.
3) Complete 4 buttons (back, home, menu, search) ??? Don't quite get that one.
Everything sounds about right, except for the Contour display on the Nexus, still trying to figure out what exactly is the advantage of having the curved glass.
anthro said:
Galaxy S' advantages over Nexus S include
Micro SD Slot - Trade off for ext4
Gorilla Glass - agree :'(
Bluetooth 3.0 (vs. Bluetooth 2.1 on Nexus S) - can't pair a wiimote on 3.0
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I don't think the GS has many advantages over teh NS. Only gorilla glass IMO.
why list bluetooth as an advantage?
really BT 3.0 has more problems than 2.1
and did you forget to mention that a NS advantage would be Goolge Updates
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Just a few observations:
1) Vibrant also has Gyroscope as far as i know.
2) Any of the GSM based Galaxy S phones can be easily unlocked for free.
3) Complete 4 buttons (back, home, menu, search) ??? Don't quite get that one.
Everything sounds about right, except for the Contour display on the Nexus, still trying to figure out what exactly is the advantage of having the curved glass.
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Yep, figured that Gyroscope thing and edited OP. Galaxy S really has it.
Unlocking is quite easy for us, so yeah. Not a factor to consider for XDA people.
The 4 buttons is about the lack of a hardware search button on many Galaxy S units.
I'm not sure the Gorilla glass question was ever fully answered with either phones. The Galaxy S (i9000) is actually quite easily scratchable and Samsung never said it had Gorilla glass, they just never denied reports that it has a type of Gorilla glass that was allegedly not quite as good. The same that Samsung have said the Nexus S doesn't have Gorilla glass - I'm sure it will still have some form of hardening.
The screen on my Nexus S feels exactly the same as my i9000. Time will tell if it scratches the same.
I like to add:
Nexus S has :
Much better in-call audio quality.
Better build quality
Better speaker
Snappier software
GS:+Better Camera,Radio.
Yes. Radio is one aspect. Plus the cost is relative. In my country the Nexus S maybe quite expensive. Heck, we haven't even seen Nexus S yet. Will be releasing in February I hope!!!
Plus i read that even the Galaxy S is getting the Gingerbread upgrade in some time.
Galaxy S: 720p, TV Out
Is it true that you can screenshot in GalaxyS Froyo using back and home, but on the Nexus S you can't?
If you're in the right place then yes you can. But its much easier to root and use a screenshot app.
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+ touchwiz has many extras over stock os
+ plays divx, xvid, and maybe mp4 video
+ I think usb sliding door is very useful
+ 720p with Tv-out
Still have ability to add Front camera to Vibrant thanks to xda, and new roms and kernels make the phone fast and Gingerbread-like.
Nexus has NFS chip which is technically there but practically useless.
slowz3r said:
why list bluetooth as an advantage?
really BT 3.0 has more problems than 2.1
and did you forget to mention that a NS advantage would be Goolge Updates
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Bt 3.0 has faster data transfers, less connection loss, and most important it doesn't use battery as much as 2.1. About updates....while its true that nexus s will get updates, the only real update is 3.0 which is not coming anytime soon.....
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I'm not sure the Gorilla glass question was ever fully answered with either phones. The Galaxy S (i9000) is actually quite easily scratchable and Samsung never said it had Gorilla glass, they just never denied reports that it has a type of Gorilla glass that was allegedly not quite as good. The same that Samsung have said the Nexus S doesn't have Gorilla glass - I'm sure it will still have some form of hardening.
The screen on my Nexus S feels exactly the same as my i9000. Time will tell if it scratches the same.
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On Gorrila website it says Galaxy S phones have Gorrila glass.
You forgot to mention xda-dev support as a pro/con. Galaxy S phones has some of the best devs around.
jblparisi said:
Just a few observations:
3) Complete 4 buttons (back, home, menu, search) ??? Don't quite get that one.
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As someone already said, the lack of hardware search button is one reason (on the i9000). It annoyed the heck out of me for a very long time, but eventually I got used to it, and adding the Voice Search button to Launcher Pro dock was a big help in that.
Also, on the i9000, I really liked the iPhone-like physical home button at bottom center. It lets you wake the device (or just go to home screen) much more easily when using the phone one-handed. This is the biggest user-experience challenge for me in switching to the NS from an i9000. YMMV.
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Everything sounds about right, except for the Contour display on the Nexus, still trying to figure out what exactly is the advantage of having the curved glass.
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All kinds of theories on the curved glass (reduce glare, fits head better, ???). My personal theory is that one of the big design flaws with the i9000, Vibrant is the huge bump at the bottom of the device on the back. I've disassembled the i9000 and there are some radio antennas down there. The bump is still there, but it's not as big (in terms of sticking out the back). I wonder if the curved glass just lets them hide some of the internals more towards the front of the device than the back.
That said, I think the curve makes the phone really sexy. Much nicer look than other phones out there.
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I'm not sure the Gorilla glass question was ever fully answered with either phones. The Galaxy S (i9000) is actually quite easily scratchable and Samsung never said it had Gorilla glass, they just never denied reports that it has a type of Gorilla glass that was allegedly not quite as good. The same that Samsung have said the Nexus S doesn't have Gorilla glass - I'm sure it will still have some form of hardening.
The screen on my Nexus S feels exactly the same as my i9000. Time will tell if it scratches the same.
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The i9000 definitely has Gorilla Glass. Corning announced this last August, much to the chagrin of the haters.
dirk1978 said:
If you're in the right place then yes you can. But its much easier to root and use a screenshot app.
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How? Was trying to do this without success
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You forgot to mention xda-dev support as a pro/con. Galaxy S phones has some of the best devs around.
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Amen! On the other hand Supercurio, DocRambone, and Paul at Modaco have already started releasing stuff for our Nexus S phones, so I think this device will get the love that other Galaxy S phones didn't really get.
If you have a Galaxy S already, then no dont buy a Nexus S. thats a waste of money.
if you dont have either, then :
- Both have same screen
- i find 16GB is more than enough but the option to add more memory for Galaxy S is better " so its up to you how much movies/music you like
- Bluetooth 3 on GS is better than 2.1 on NS "wtf they were thinking ? "
- GS can play Divxs Movies " but this is not very important. you can download from the market Vplayer and it will play anything so this point mean nothing really "
- Nexus S has a newer software, and will be the first to get a 3.0 while Samsung is still thinking whatever they should give us a 2.3 or not on GS . hell even when they did port 2.2, it was very ****ty port so i am not holding my breath. and i am sure going to dream about 3.0 on Galaxy S because i will tell you right now. its not gona happen.
with all the negatives and pluses of both phone. if i have to buy one . it sure is the nexus S. its more "future proof " than Galaxy S.
but if you were able to find like a used galaxy S sim free for like 250$ or so " oe whatever you find acceptable, then hell go for it.
but personally i would wait. new phones are coming early next year that really much superior than a galaxy S and its brother Nexus S
I have both and I have to say the NS is much snappier than my Vibrant (which is complete with FFC mod and a great custom rom). My main reason for getting the Nexus was for the direct Google support. After waiting forever and ever for the 2.2 update that still hasn't come to US carriers I wanted to have a phone that I knew would be supported and the NS is that phone. Having 2.3 stock is great and it's coming to the N1 shortly which makes me feel a little more at ease.
The community on the GS side is great. I still love that phone 100% because of the community and I'm not selling it either because the community will continue to make that phone better with or without OEM support.
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Returned my unlocked Nexus S, connectivity is the biggest issue with it then screen response and freezing.
I compromised on the desireble specs to buy Nexus S only coz Google put their stamp on it. I seriously dont understand why Google will pick Samsung (is it the super AMOLED display or something else). HTC has far better workmanship n service compared to Samsung -they r in such a rush to inundate the market with phones that their is no quality control or post sales service.
Ley me put it this way I'm never gonna buy Samsung phone again. Bought 3 of their flagship best phones in last 3 years n let down all 3 times
1. Samsung Omnia when it came out from Europe $ 600
2. Samsung i8910 (first with Amloed Display) again form europe for $700
3. Nexus S $571
I've used samrtphone for last 12 year from Palm 180 to everything, and i would say Samsung are the worst.
Back to my Nexus 1 n wating eagrly for upgrade.
Opinions are like assholes...
...Everyone has one LOL
... and their full of sh#t!
Seriously tho does anyone even give a damn about these "I h8 NS!" threads besides the trolls?
Samsung is doing a fine job manuacturing their phones, I'm glad I don't have to deal with TouchPiss anymore.
Google probably went with Samsung over HTC because:
- They use the Hummingbird processor, HTC doesn't.
- They're the only ones with Super AMOLED technology.
- HTC is getting their pants sued off by Apple.
- Google is trying to diversify.
- Contractual/agreement issues, who knows.
- Maybe HTC didn't want to parter again in the first place.
i am glad Google went with Samsung this time. People who own Nexus One know that the touchpad that HTC used was a ****ing fiasco. Also, this is my biggest pet peeve virtually on all HTC phones they use the crappiest quality speakers.
Sounds like the OP needs to look up the definition of "insanity" with regards to his repeated purchases of Samsung products.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
I'll have to say the speaker quality on this Samsung is far better than the one on my G1. The touch screen is much more responsive than on the G1 and registers better. Of course it is a million times faster than the G1. Also, I don't need to root and modify the hell out of just to make it work remotely close to other phones.
I am impressed do far.
Only complaints, no LED notifications (knew this going in), and my wireless signal is weaker on this phone than it was on my G1 or any other wireless device in my house. Not sure what's up with that. Also, that it doesn't take advantage of T-Mobiles HSPA+. I knew this as well going in.
I don't do much mobile browsing anyway, but do like to show of videos with friends and that can be a downside. Though T-Mobile is as much to blame as a manufacturer not supporting it (read T-Mobile just sucks sometimes).
Good for you that you returned your Nexus S. Thanks for sharing. Now move on to a different forum. Or do you require some counseling for your loss?
I went from rooting the Nook color, got hooked on Android, and then bought the Nexus S. I couldn't be happier. Pure Google! Customize! No cell carrier branding! 2.3! Oh no, they have a quad core with a kitchen sink plug in, I must return my Nexus S!
Take care all. Looking forward to all the mods and roms.
Perhaps somebody should start a "I'm not returning my Nexus S, I'm perfectly happy with it" thread....
only 2 sensible posts thanks rashad1 & geitl.
N rest of the guys you ppl are amzing read wht u ppl write with such love n care for another forum member.
I probably would have used more smart phones than all of u put together.
anyway i am realy amazed at the hostility these newbe xda memebers show
To be honest, I have less issues with built quality on my vibrant then on nexus one. Although, I've been reading that curved class sucks on ns
kolyan said:
To be honest, I have less issues with built quality on my vibrant then on nexus one. Although, I've been reading that curved class sucks on ns
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whats the real purpose of the curve glass, to give it something no other device has thats about it..it ads nothing you cant eve notice it
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whats the real purpose of the curve glass, to give it something no other device has thats about it..it ads nothing you cant eve notice it
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I definitely notice the curve, and I love showing it off.
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whats the real purpose of the curve glass, to give it something no other device has thats about it..it ads nothing you cant eve notice it
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I guess its just cool, technicaly its made to match shape of ur face and more comfortable to talk on, but this is bs. The problem is that its not Gorrila, would I take flat Gorrila vs curved glass, yes of course because Gorrila actually serves a purpose
kapur_deepak said:
Returned my unlocked Nexus S, connectivity is the biggest issue with it then screen response and freezing.
I compromised on the desireble specs to buy Nexus S only coz Google put their stamp on it. I seriously dont understand why Google will pick Samsung (is it the super AMOLED display or something else). HTC has far better workmanship n service compared to Samsung -they r in such a rush to inundate the market with phones that their is no quality control or post sales service.
Ley me put it this way I'm never gonna buy Samsung phone again. Bought 3 of their flagship best phones in last 3 years n let down all 3 times
1. Samsung Omnia when it came out from Europe $ 600
2. Samsung i8910 (first with Amloed Display) again form europe for $700
3. Nexus S $571
I've used samrtphone for last 12 year from Palm 180 to everything, and i would say Samsung are the worst.
Back to my Nexus 1 n wating eagrly for upgrade.
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Wouldn't it be more helpful if, in the middle of your rant, you explained WHY you thought that the Nexus S let you down?
I'm interested, especially since mine is arriving in 2 days time...
I have to agree. The ONLY thing I don't like about my Nexus S is that I'll have to put a screen protector on it because it doesn't have Gorilla Glass.
I wish they'd saved whatever cash they spent creating curved glass and just used Gorilla Glass instead.
I have Nexus S as well as Desire HD and I can tell you signal strength is far better on the Nexus S. HTC have shocking antenna problems on every Android. Still love the HD but the Nexus poops all over it.
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Belarios said:
I have to agree. The ONLY thing I don't like about my Nexus S is that I'll have to put a screen protector on it because it doesn't have Gorilla Glass.
I wish they'd saved whatever cash they spent creating curved glass and just used Gorilla Glass instead.
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U still need screen protector on Gorrila. It CAN get scratched, I suppose its just more crack resistant
I am one of the many unsatisfied, and thoroughly disappointed purchasers of the Galaxy S on Bell Mobility in Canada. I have had countless problems with this phone, and poor service even prior to the infamous 2.2 update causing the self destruction of the phone. My question is, when the Nexus S gets released in Canada, is it worth it? Does anyone else have problems with their Samsungs, or was the Bell version just a freak occurence, and not a true example of how Samsung manufactures their devices? Can you guys tell me how your experiences with your Samsung phones have been? I need to know if I should give them a break on this one, or stay away altogether.
Thanks.
i came from only using HTC phones, and an N1 to this NS and ya it was getting used to but i have had nothing but good times with my baby.
even dropping her a few times she still goes on like a champ
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I am one of the many unsatisfied, and thoroughly disappointed purchasers of the Galaxy S on Bell Mobility in Canada. I have had countless problems with this phone, and poor service even prior to the infamous 2.2 update causing the self destruction of the phone. My question is, when the Nexus S gets released in Canada, is it worth it? Does anyone else have problems with their Samsungs, or was the Bell version just a freak occurence, and not a true example of how Samsung manufactures their devices? Can you guys tell me how your experiences with your Samsung phones have been? I need to know if I should give them a break on this one, or stay away altogether.
Thanks.
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I had the international galaxy s and i must say that samsung really screwed up the software part on the galaxy s series. But i really love samsung hardware.
U really cant compare galaxy s to this this phone. Nexus s is so much snappier. Didnt have any problems so far. Wouldnt change it for any phone thats announced so far.
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Should have returned your phone if unsatisfied. The build quality of my NS is excellent and I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out at this time.
edit: also I have a Fascinate with Verizon for work. Build quality is amazing. Only problem I have right now is I am still running 2.1.
jun.seba said:
I am one of the many unsatisfied, and thoroughly disappointed purchasers of the Galaxy S on Bell Mobility in Canada. I have had countless problems with this phone, and poor service even prior to the infamous 2.2 update causing the self destruction of the phone. My question is, when the Nexus S gets released in Canada, is it worth it? Does anyone else have problems with their Samsungs, or was the Bell version just a freak occurence, and not a true example of how Samsung manufactures their devices? Can you guys tell me how your experiences with your Samsung phones have been? I need to know if I should give them a break on this one, or stay away altogether.
Thanks.
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Thanks for asking the question that was on my mind. Have a captivate, and have the same concerns. Waiting for the ns to come to att.
To add to the question, how is the gps?
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I have met several problems with this phone:
1, Some time NS will reboot while making a long call;
2, The backspace key will sometimes does not work, especially with the early product version.
3, Messy code may happen in SMS sent to Users in CDMA network.
That's all. You may buy the latest version of NS and update it to 2.3.3 which is said to solve the random reboot problem.
My first smartphone's the HTC Hero, then N1 and now the NS. Must say i'm loving the weight distribution and design of the NS. I do Gmask (http://www.gmask.com/) for the back of the phone so the plastic bits doesn't even bother me. Haven't had an issue with random reboots except for when i overclock it to 1400mhz and beyond. Besides, 1000mhz is more than enough to run all my required apps/games smoothly. No issue with the backspace. Best phone i had and wouldn't trade it for one that puts me at the mercy of carriers/phone manufacturers for software updates.
Only item i notice is that the GPS in the NS takes a little longer to zoom in to my location compared to the N1. It's fine if i use Maps 5.0,places etc but if i use Brut's version of Maps for navigation (Singapore doesn't have free turn by turn navigation yet) i will take a relative long time (15-20 secs compared to instantly when using the same app on the N1). Not sure if that's a problem with the outdated app or with the GPS hardware, probably the app since others work just fine.
If gps is working, and my tracks will track properly, you are +1 on me.
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Just realised the OP's nic's is Jun Seba.
RIP good man. Hope you're stilll producing good music wherever you are....
Switched from the Evo to the NS - the S is clearly a higher quality device in terms of fit and finish. The Evo always creaked with light squeezing - which feels cheap to me - the battery cover was laughably flimsy, the soft-touch plastic was a little TOO soft and was easy to knick/gouge (and when this happened it revealed the red plastic underneath - looked horrible) and I always thought the button and rocker action and feedback was horrible on the Evo.
The materials are sorta meh in the S, especially compared to the N1 or iPhone 4, but the N1 was sorta overkill in that dept anyway and function seemed to follow form on the iPhone 4 (though I think it is inarguably gorgeous).
The NS feels very light in the hand, almost like its hollow. I believe that's more due to balancing and battery placement, and its not a bad thing. Just took a bit of getting used to.
Overall I think its very comparable to the iPhone 3g(s), but with a superior touch surface (I love the concave glass) and MUCH better front bezel design.
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I love the build quality of both the Galacy S and Nexus S.
I've also had a Desire HD and G2, HTC's build quality leaves much to be desired. As is mentioned above, squeeze it in places and there are all kinds of creaks and groans. The G2 has too many issues to mention.
The Nexus S, although it might have a plastic back, feels very solid.
I would easily recommned the Nexus S. From a hardware persepctive the only thing wrong with it is the back gets scratched easily and if you push the back right where the USB port is you may hear a creak once in a while (the only time the cheap plastic back is really noticable). I've had one or two reboots but that's a software issue. So far I haven't had any other issues with build quality but just from shopping around I did get the impression some of the HTC products felt more "solid". However, as noted elsewhere here, love the curved glass and actually prefer the lighter feel of the phone as a whole.
I should point out that I came to the Nexus S from a Palm Pre so of course the Nexus S feels pretty much darn near unbreakable next to my old phone
Coming from a Vibrant
My NS doesn't feel as cheap/hallow as my vibrant.
But still fingerprint magnet and back cover still scratches easy so baby it if you dont use case like me
http://news.mk.co.kr/english/newsRead.php?rss=Y&sc=30800011&year=2012&no=360619
The next Note will have an even larger screen with flexible AMOLED, which is unbreakable! Sounds amazing if true! I want one!
I hope this is true but will put me in a dilemma as I was thinking of getting the note 10.1!
I will get Note 10.1! ..if they will ever release it
If it only was true.....
The note 1 is supposed to have gorilla glass, scratch proof etc. etc. How many have already their screen scratched ?? Battery life improvement with a bigger lcd ?? If we don't use our devices they will last at least a week, that's true !!
I never had the expected battery life they anounced using the phone normally, in fact the ics update made things worse... What's the point of anouncing things that aren't (yet) possible ??
After the latest problem with the update (that they already knew from earlier devices, nexus for example) they still insist in errors from tha past that shouldn't even be possible....... Well i really like my note i just don't like samsung. If they don't solve the problems with the first note before launching the second one .......... But it's all to be in the race with apple...
I'm starting to think i should have bought a zte or an lg.......
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Damn ppl gorilla glass is scratch resistant not proof ...
Galaxy note Paranoid Android 1.7ghz goodness
DJsCrIBbLe said:
Damn ppl gorilla glass is scratch resistant not proof ...
Galaxy note Paranoid Android 1.7ghz goodness
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So is the windshield of my car....... no big advertisement here.
I will not flash a rom untill the bug is solved. Yes i will miss my note if it bricks since the average repair time seems to be 2-3 weeks and still will come with the same problem.
How about the glass that covers the screen and the digitizer?
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So is the windshield of my car....... no big advertisement here.
I will not flash a rom untill the bug is solved. Yes i will miss my note if it bricks since the average repair time seems to be 2-3 weeks and still will come with the same problem.
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Ever noticed how many scratches your windshield has in direct sunlight ??
Here is the mock up image http://i.imgur.com/kZuwC.jpg and source http://www.motoringcrunch.com/news/mobile-tech/10946-samsung-galaxy-note-2-s3-rumors
Hope they stick with current screen size. It is perfect.
I bought mine on last sunday, i say i wont replace it for years! It's the best phone i ever had... and dude... i had lots! I was addicted to apple products, then i bought galaxy nexus 2 months ago and now i have the note. Its awesome...
Got my note upon first release in November, I love it dearly, but I want to move on. I think I want something bigger.... I'm waiting to hear about the Nexus Tablet... hopefully that thing is all I expect it be be, and I will use that as my phone
Oh boy... and here comes the speculation....
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.
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friedje said:
Ever noticed how many scratches your windshield has in direct sunlight ??
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Yep, if it wasn't for insurance...... Can't find a screen protector with the right size for it
What I love is the fact that people equate flexible to unbreakable.
I bet if you sit on a flexible screen the wrong way so as to fold it it would break. Reminds me of all the talk when CD's first came out, they said they were unbreakable, my car and the sun proved them wrong in the first week of owning one.
I will be happy if they have a flexible display as I wont be tempted to upgrade.
But like I posted elsewhere I cannot see it happening. What makes the Note unique (besides its size) is its S-pen, as the s-pen requires sensors behind the screen to detect the button presses I can not see how they would incorporate that is a flexible screen.
But I may be wrong
From how I read it the only reason they are using the flexible screen tech is because its much thinner, this will either allow a thinner device then the current note or keep the dimensions giving room for a larger battery. That mockup prototype has nothing to do with the note 2 and I cant ever see a phone design like that. If you put any decent force on it in that folded position the thing would break unless it was made of rubber.
I dont expect it to actually have a flexible screen unless its some type of flip foldout multiscreen design which I doubt it will have, this would make it a true phone tab hybrid if its in the note form factor but could extend out to a tablet. This will probably be the note 3 that does this I wouod think and not something out in october.
Note 2 will likely have a 5.5-5.7 inch screen hopefuly around 1080p with a 3000mah battery or slightly larger if possible. The physical size wont be much larger then the current note but heavier due to the larger battery as larger capacity equals more weight. Being a note it will have a stylus for sure and the phone going by this release will have the same quad as the gs3 maybe slighlty higher clocked, not the faster arm v15 duel core.
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guys i dont want an unbreakable screen and stuff....i just want sammy to not foolishly waste the marvels they create!!example: the note:its by far THE BEST phone ive ever used...screen unbelievable: the day i bought it, another guy was buying the s3 and i didnt even feel bad, my phone was looking way better than his..
but i say waste their marvels coz: that ungodly black crush issue. heck almost every note had it in that store and moreover their dealers denied it, saying it was absent when all you had to do was open the calculator app and see the ugly banding right there..they refused to accept and said it was 'the design'..
and photos taken in the dark have this issue too...
other than this this phone ROCKS!!!!! I mean the size is just coooool..never slows down under any kind of multitasking, never heats up, battery is superb..
just wish for note 2, they COMPLETELY get rid of this issue!!! note rocks!!
my note2 = note - black crush + stable ics !!!! ( dont get better than that!!!)
I will never waste more money on another updated note...its never worth it lol this note is perfeft size. Any bigger would be stupid but tk each their own. I got my note sim free so i paid a gud amount for it. I wont be sucked in with tiny updates and 12 mp camera, just another stunt to make folks spend more money.
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Hope they stick with current screen size. It is perfect.
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agree with you mate
I'd love a slightly larger screen. It'll likely be 5'5"...but anything short of 6" would be fine with me.
This is a round up of all the rumors of what we can expect from the S4,
Does anyone here think that some of these are unrealistic?
Lighter, thinner? (not sure about this, as if they decide to put the S Pen built in, it will be hard to slim down the SIV)
Higher Resoltion
Bigger Screen
2GB ram
built in S pen
More durable
android Key Lime pie
Faster Downloads
Faster Uploads
13MP camera
Higher PPi
2MP front camera
Quad-core 2 GHz Cortex-A15
Mali-T658 GPU
non pentile display
longer battery life
Improved Audio quality
As long as it's not exynos it would be good.
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more antixda community security builtin
more bs bootloaders making sure you get your warranty void
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im afraid i will pass next time and try nexys or sont
do you guys think it will have a s pen? and if they put it in do you think it wont to slim and light?
Don't think it will have a pen, but you never know... Just wait a few months
I In have been a Galaxy fan since the first one.
Loved them since then. I really think that the phone has the best technology and characteristics in the market.
But the S3 is an epic fail in design and construction.
I would love that the S4 is metal or aluminum built and that it feels less flimsy on the hands.
I would also like to keep the screen size of the S3.
I know most will say if I want aluminum get an Iphone but I hate them. And I hate to say that the I5 looks much better than the S3.
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Let me get this straight... This thread presents 18 reasons to wait for the Galaxy SIV, even though none of them is anything more than pure speculation?
Interesting.
In that case, I have 5 more reasons to wait for the SGS IV:
1. Android Lemon Tart
2. Smaller charger
3. SMS Typing with the Power of The Mind™
4. Ability to print money
5. Built-in smoke detector
I can't wait! :silly:
Also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084140, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084235, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891072.
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I In have been a Galaxy fan since the first one.
Loved them since then. I really think that the phone has the best technology and characteristics in the market.
But the S3 is an epic fail in design and construction.
I would love that the S4 is metal or aluminum built and that it feels less flimsy on the hands.
I would also like to keep the screen size of the S3.
I know most will say if I want aluminum get an Iphone but I hate them. And I hate to say that the I5 looks much better than the S3.
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You do know there is more chance of getting shock damage if you drop a phone made of any metal don't you? Plastic absorbs impact much better than metal ever can.
There are rumors of S4 having Tizen OS instead of Android
iridaki said:
Let me get this straight... This thread presents 18 reasons to wait for the Galaxy SIV, even though none of them is anything more than pure speculation?
Interesting.
In that case, I have 5 more reasons to wait for the SGS IV:
1. Android Lemon Tart
2. Smaller charger
3. SMS Typing with the Power of The Mind™
4. Ability to print money
5. Built-in smoke detector
I can't wait! :silly:
Also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084140, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084235, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891072.
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your exactly right saying the S4 will have a better camera and a higher resolution display than the S3 is pretty much saying it will print money, I love your logic :silly:
there's a difference between educated speculation and pure fantasy.
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You do know there is more chance of getting shock damage if you drop a phone made of any metal don't you? Plastic absorbs impact much better than metal ever can.
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I think the iphone 5 has disproved that, it did better than the S3 in the drop tests
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You do know there is more chance of getting shock damage if you drop a phone made of any metal don't you? Plastic absorbs impact much better than metal ever can.
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This might be correct but. I'm not talking durability I'm thinking in design aspect. We are paying 600+ $ for a plastic phone?
Look HTC phones body or nokia they all seem stronger feel better on the hands than the S3.
I expect a much better S4. I want a phone that I will love inside out.
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Galaxy S IV = Galaxy Note 1.9
Please no, 4.8 screen is already enough. To increase it to 5.0 is better to buy a Note. The actually perfect size is 4.7, from the Nexus. Fits very good on the hands. Somehow, smartphones needs to stop increasing the size. If there's a Galaxy Note already, why should the Galaxy S get close to the Note?
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Galaxy S IV = Galaxy Note 1.9
Please no, 4.8 screen is already enough. To increase it to 5.0 is better to buy a Note. The actually perfect size is 4.7, from the Nexus. Fits very good on the hands. Somehow, smartphones needs to stop increasing the size. If there's a Galaxy Note already, why should the Galaxy S get close to the Note?
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I agree with you! I was happy with galaxy 2 screen size.
Still accept galaxy 3 screen size but please no bigger.
If we want a bigger slate we would get the note or a tablet.
This are phones should fit ur palm and pockets!
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Perfect size phone (for me of course) would be 5.0" with on-screen buttons (like N4 or GNex) and almost zero bezel.
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I think the iphone 5 has disproved that, it did better than the S3 in the drop tests
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That's not a metal Vs plastic test, the S3 has an extremely thin bezel which offers much less protection, it's the only reason the screen can break easily.
And from a design point of view, so why can I spend over 3k on a plastic TV? Over 1k on a plastic laptop? PS3 was over £500 on release guess what plastic. Its not cutting corners, making things on the cheap it's about making them out of a suitable material, Apple makes their products out of Aluminium for one reason, to drive the price up.
You want proof that Apple does this, The put a 4g chip in the last iPad in the UK, although the UK didn't have 4g. They marketed as 4g although the 4g chip only worked on American frequancies, and would never work in the UK. They were forced to change their marketing and website to remove all mention of 4g in the iPad.
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That's not a metal Vs plastic test, the S3 has an extremely thin bezel which offers much less protection, it's the only reason the screen can break easily.
And from a design point of view, so why can I spend over 3k on a plastic TV? Over 1k on a plastic laptop? PS3 was over £500 on release guess what plastic. Its not cutting corners, making things on the cheap it's about making them out of a suitable material, Apple makes their products out of Aluminium for one reason, to drive the price up.
You want proof that Apple does this, The put a 4g chip in the last iPad in the UK, although the UK didn't have 4g. They marketed as 4g although the 4g chip only worked on American frequancies, and would never work in the UK. They were forced to change their marketing and website to remove all mention of 4g in the iPad.
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Ok enough Iphone bla bla how about nokia, HTC, Sony phones?
Their designs are much more appealing to the eye than the S3.
I'm talking about merely appearance how they look. Not functions or hardware or resistance to falls.
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Ok enough Iphone bla bla how about nokia, HTC, Sony phones?
Their designs are much more appealing to the eye than the S3.
I'm talking about merely appearance how they look. Not functions or hardware or resistance to falls.
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If aesthetics are more important to you than functionality, then I don't know what to say, I like the look of the S3 I like how it feels in my hand I don't need to make it inferior just to satisfy the people who care more about looks than more important things.
Also on the looks if you make the phone out of aluminium, one drop will put a huge chip in it, because aluminium is extremely soft. If you really want an aluminium phone, get your S3, take it apart and wrap it in foil, and bang there's an aluminium phone.
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If aesthetics are more important to you than functionality, then I don't know what to say, I like the look of the S3 I like how it feels in my hand I don't need to make it inferior just to satisfy the people who care more about looks than more important things.
Also on the looks if you make the phone out of aluminium, one drop will put a huge chip in it, because aluminium is extremely soft. If you really want an aluminium phone, get your S3, take it apart and wrap it in foil, and bang there's an aluminium phone.
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I choose S3 for functionality and all it has inside. Speed etc.
But it's my opinion there are nicest phones out there. Yes of inferior quality with not all the pluses of the S3.
Just hope that the S4 looks as good on the outside as its quality on the inside.
Love my S3.
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jsikaffy said:
I choose S3 for functionality and all it has inside. Speed etc.
But it's my opinion there are nicest phones out there. Yes of inferior quality with not all the pluses of the S3.
Just hope that the S4 looks as good on the outside as its quality on the inside.
Love my S3.
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Honestly you would get a phone made of aluminium and one drop a huge chip in the edge, it will never look or feel as good, whereas with the S3 you would only get a crack, if that.
I'm having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. I'm stuck between the Xperia Z1 and the Note 3. I really like how big the note 3 is but at the same time the camera and waterproofing in the xperia is very attractive. How are you guys coping with this decision?
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I'm having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. I'm stuck between the Xperia Z1 and the Note 3. I really like how big the note 3 is but at the same time the camera and waterproofing in the xperia is very attractive. How are you guys coping with this decision?
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Same here. I really wanted a waterproof phone. Maybe they will have an Active version without watering down the specs.
goodwinod said:
Same here. I really wanted a waterproof phone. Maybe they will have an Active version without watering down the specs.
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That would be very exciting. Here's hoping.
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That would be very exciting. Here's hoping.
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Can you explain to me why that's important to you? Waterproofing that is? Have you had problems with getting your phone wet in the past? What appeals to you in that you will pass on a phone that's not waterproof? Just wondering...
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Can you explain to me why that's important to you? Waterproofing that is? Have you had problems with getting your phone wet in the past? What appeals to you in that you will pass on a phone that's not waterproof? Just wondering...
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Yeah no problem, there's quite a few reasons why waterproof seems attractive to me. I live in Fl and i often have to contend with rain/sweat. I ride a motorcycle and run outdoors on the regular. I guess all that boils down to peace of mind (i damaged a S2 canoeing and got caught in the rain a few times with the Note II no damage though thankfully). Also i think it'd be pretty cool to grab some pictures under water of course.
Problem is, if i'd never owned the note 2 i would have hopped on the z1 no problem. But i really liked its large screen. I have big ol hands (the note 2 almost looks normal when i'm holding it). Also the large screen is very easy on the eyes. I also regularly used the stylus.. . Wish i could buy them both.
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Yeah no problem, there's quite a few reasons why waterproof seems attractive to me. I live in Fl and i often have to contend with rain/sweat. I ride a motorcycle and run outdoors on the regular. I guess all that boils down to peace of mind (i damaged a S2 canoeing and got caught in the rain a few times with the Note II no damage though thankfully). Also i think it'd be pretty cool to grab some pictures under water of course.
Problem is, if i'd never owned the note 2 i would have hopped on the z1 no problem. But i really liked its large screen. I have big ol hands (the note 2 almost looks normal when i'm holding it). Also the large screen is very easy on the eyes. I also regularly used the stylus.. . Wish i could buy them both.
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Thank you that makes perfect sense.
Im torn between Z-ultra and Note-3. Leaning towards the Z-U... becuase of the screen size. We'll see, i have to see them in person 1st...
Only trouble I'm having is deciding which variant to go for 3G or LTE, which is going to see the most community input, what's the battery life between the two etc....
Even if they made a waterproof N3, is the SPen waterproof as well? And, no, I'm not about to go test mine.
If the z1 comes to att I'll probably go with that just bc I haven't had a Sony and two the specs and looks are love
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hockeyfan said:
Even if they made a waterproof N3, is the SPen waterproof as well? And, no, I'm not about to go test mine.
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haha i doubt the s pen is waterproof. You could probably dunk it a bunch and it will work for a while but it does have some metal parts inside that would suffer some oxidation in the long term.
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Only trouble I'm having is deciding which variant to go for 3G or LTE, which is going to see the most community input, what's the battery life between the two etc....
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Thats a good point, I think i read somewhere that the s800 has more processing power and less battery drain. I can't cite that though. Someone chime in if they know? I think i would get the lte one even if battery life was a smidge shorter.
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Im torn between Z-ultra and Note-3. Leaning towards the Z-U... becuase of the screen size. We'll see, i have to see them in person 1st...
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Can you wield that phone? It looks big even by my standards.
Anon9mouz said:
If the z1 comes to att I'll probably go with that just bc I haven't had a Sony and two the specs and looks are love
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I have not had a sony either. My recent experience with a lumia 1020 have made me really appreciate good cameras on phones though. The z1 seems like the ultimate compromise of features. idk though...
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I'm having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. I'm stuck between the Xperia Z1 and the Note 3. I really like how big the note 3 is but at the same time the camera and waterproofing in the xperia is very attractive. How are you guys coping with this decision?
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I know 100% that the Note 3 is the phone for me because a) The specs are monstrous and b) it's the only viable option for someone who wants to use a stylus seriously (In the immediate future / present market). I'm using a capacitive stylus on the (2012) Nexus 7 and it just doesn't cut it. The new Note 3 is going to allow me to ditch my Epic 4G Touch and Nexus 7 in one fell swoop while increasing my productivity
No other phone comes close in my search - although I LOVE stock android so I'm quite tempted by the prospect of a new Nexus phone, but I'd rather have the epic stylus functionality.
My only debate right now is which carrier to go with - The Sprint voice/data networks have been garbage for me over the last 2 years here in Colorado. (I'm debating between Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T - Verizon is prohibitively expensive)
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haha i doubt the s pen is waterproof. You could probably dunk it a bunch and it will work for a while but it does have some metal parts inside that would suffer some oxidation in the long term.
Thats a good point, I think i read somewhere that the s800 has more processing power and less battery drain. I can't cite that though. Someone chime in if they know? I think i would get the lte one even if battery life was a smidge shorter.
Can you wield that phone? It looks big even by my standards.
I have not had a sony either. My recent experience with a lumia 1020 have made me really appreciate good cameras on phones though. The z1 seems like the ultimate compromise of features. idk though...
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But what's hard to leave camera aspect and unlocked bootloader is the HTC one for them having super low light sensor plus HTC giving u access to unlock bootloader something that's gonna be a tough cookie on all new phones that's out and will come out for att except HTC almost why I kinda wanna go HTC one max but still idk. Plus I wanna get a phone with a good dev community so I can build for it. So idk what to get. G2, Z1, N3, 1Max, MotoX. I'm just bored with my black 64 gb HTC one I need something new to play with
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No, no trouble deciding. After using the (original) Note for the past two years, there was no question that my next phone would be a similar size. I find it to be as large as possible w/o being too difficult to handle or fit in my pocket. I think the Mega would be too big (not to mention it's inferior specs). Personally, I would be surprised if they introduced an "Active" version. Not just because of the s-pen itself, but because of the hole the s-pen fits into. It's just another possible water entry point that would have to be addressed. Besides, the note is marketed as more of a business device vs. the S4. It doesn't seem like there would be as large of a market for a waterproofed Note vs. S4. FWIW, I ride a motorcycle too. Although I'm more of a fair weather rider, I have gotten drenched on several occasions, and it's never been an issue for my current Note. The phone does get wet while in my pocket in a storm, but it's not really the same as getting submerged.
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No, no trouble deciding. After using the (original) Note for the past two years, there was no question that my next phone would be a similar size. I find it to be as large as possible w/o being too difficult to handle or fit in my pocket. I think the Mega would be too big (not to mention it's inferior specs). Personally, I would be surprised if they introduced an "Active" version. Not just because of the s-pen itself, but because of the hole the s-pen fits into. It's just another possible water entry point that would have to be addressed. Besides, the note is marketed as more of a business device vs. the S4. It doesn't seem like there would be as large of a market for a waterproofed Note vs. S4. FWIW, I ride a motorcycle too. Although I'm more of a fair weather rider, I have gotten drenched on several occasions, and it's never been an issue for my current Note. The phone does get wet while in my pocket in a storm, but it's not really the same as getting submerged.
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Yes to the screen size. I feel like you nailed that subject. Its just the right size. I also doubt they will release an active version of the note 3. Not because of the pen silo though, where the silo fits the pen doesn't have to interact with any electronics, therefor the silo could be part of a unibody shell without having to introduce any seams into the design.There are plenty of other reasons why making an active version of the note would be challenging though...
For me i think its going to come down to who offers me the best price/package. Z1 or Note 3. I'm looking to purchase outright full price on att lte network and i'm getting antsy. I don't want to wait too long. I think the longest i'd be willing to wait is until nexus 5 reviews come out.
On the topic of waterproof of the xperia. Even though it's a great function and I was very tempted with it on the ultra z.
There was a YouTube video I have seen last night about how the screen of ultra z would not response if it's fully immerse in the water. Somehow the water makes the screen unresponsive. I'm not too sure if it's the same with z1 though.
It might also be a pain to constantly making sure there's no dust building up around and under the flaps so to keep the waterproof function working 100%
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Valid points, i saw that video too. I wonder how they advertise it taking pictures under water... I bet they only use the physical camera button. Cant wait for more reviews on all these phones.
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Only trouble I'm having is deciding which variant to go for 3G or LTE, which is going to see the most community input, what's the battery life between the two etc....
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Assuming you are buying for the use in the US (snapdragon processor), the phone is tri-band, it supports both GSM and LTE.
bossei said:
Can you explain to me why that's important to you? Waterproofing that is? Have you had problems with getting your phone wet in the past? What appeals to you in that you will pass on a phone that's not waterproof? Just wondering...
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My note 1 made it all the way through my rafting trip (I was tracking our 5 day trip with gps). Then I got home and was pre-soaking my pants prior to washing them and it was in the pocket. It was a sad day. I've had to use my gs2 for about a month while waiting for the note 3.
And yes, the spen still work. I tried it on my note 10.1.
systoxity said:
I'm having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. I'm stuck between the Xperia Z1 and the Note 3. I really like how big the note 3 is but at the same time the camera and waterproofing in the xperia is very attractive. How are you guys coping with this decision?
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Yep my choice as well. I am not so certain on the Note 3 size though & the Z1's camera is a very big plus point for it.