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So the if the phone connects over wifi it drops the data connection that might've been present on your phone network connection. Is it possible to configure your phone to maintain both wifi and 3G/HSDPA connections at the same time?
I require this because my operator provided (H3G UK network) Skype application only runs on 3G and I have to keep turning off wifi for it to work.
Funny, I find this feature great!! With my WM phones I never knew if it was using wifi or my data connection....even if you can do this how do you make one app use one connection over the other?
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Good q, i'd also like to know if it's possible...
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You can try droid wall, and configure it to block wifi for skype, it may solve your issue.
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Hmm, doesn't sound like that will work, because the phone has already dropped the phone network data connection as soon as I get back home onto my home wifi network (due to prioritisation?) I want the phone to maintain both so I can receive incoming Skype calls at home with fiddling with my phone. I understand why the phone does it and it is sensible for it to do so in most cases, but just not for my usage requirements!
Is it a software/hardware limitation that wifi and phone network data connections can't be open at the same time?
Install Nimbuzz. It supports Skype without that bulls**t restriction. It doesn't support group chats though.
Tundraswan said:
So the if the phone connects over wifi it drops the data connection that might've been present on your phone network connection. Is it possible to configure your phone to maintain both wifi and 3G/HSDPA connections at the same time?
I require this because my operator provided (H3G UK network) Skype application only runs on 3G and I have to keep turning off wifi for it to work.
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if WiFi is on, and 3G is on
the phone automatically uses WiFi first
AllGamer said:
if WiFi is on, and 3G is on
the phone automatically uses WiFi first
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I lose the "H" or "3G" notifier when the phone connects to wifi, that's why it looks like it's purposesly dropping the data connection once it picks up my wifi, I can't see a way to maintain both simultaneously.
I'm using "Skype for 3" provided by my network, it has special integration on the 3 network which allows me unlimited Skype usage (inbound and outbound) without it eating into my data plan. So with this benefit I don't really want to use an alternative app.
I want to keep Skype running all the time so I can receive calls on it, but once I get home, the wifi kills the "H"/"3G" connection, which means my Skype can't receive calls.
the icon isn't there but i think the data (H / 3G) is still running in the background, incase your Wifi fails.
wifi is the... PREFERRED network?
have you tried getting your friend to call you via skype while you're on wifi?
Anyone know if while on wifi if i usb tether will it use the wifi or mobile data? Looks like the wifi is being used on my phone. Just want to make sure lol. Basically I want it to be like a regular Wireless adapter of sorts. Just curious
mm I'd assume it would use the WiFi I guess?
Just turn on airplane mode, then toggle WiFi on, then USB tether. That'll answer your question right there.
Or you could just buy a $10 wireless adapter for your computer
I believe when you tether your phone, the phone will start using which ever data connection is has access to. Wifi takes precedence over the mobile data connection if you have a wifi connection.
Or as martonikaj suggested, buy a USB wireless adapter for your computer.
Cool, I asked because I can use it at school where our computer workshop, doesn't have internet access at the moment. Too much hassle to carry one more thing lol.
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I haven't tested the exact situation you are talking about. But the phone always seems to default to WiFi, when a WiFi network is available. For example, the other day, my WiFi network was down (cable internet service was down for a bit), and my phone would not switch over to the cell data network, unless I manually turned off WiFi.
yea i turned off data and tried it and it worked so I imagine it is using wifi, thats pretty cool...like a wifi adapter on command!
killj0y said:
yea i turned off data and tried it and it worked so I imagine it is using wifi, thats pretty cool...like a wifi adapter on command!
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Cool, glad it worked for you.
can it be done? I have the paid app, but it doesnt seem to be recognizing my droid x. Even when easy tether is activated.
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You can't usb tether from android to android
if you have a rom that supports wifi hotspot you can u use that to tether to your transformer. I do it with my g2x all the time.
im using barnacle on my tbolt to connect to wifi on my TF right now...
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im using barnacle on my tbolt to connect to wifi on my TF right now...
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Easytether is for usb tethering. The OP is trying to tether from 1 Android device to another Android device with a usb cable not wifi. At this time it is not possible.
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Easytether is for usb tethering. The OP is trying to tether from 1 Android device to another Android device with a usb cable not wifi. At this time it is not possible.
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Is it possible to share android phone (eg. SGS i9000)3g internet connection with TF101 by USB or bluetooth?
dont think so. wifi hotspot is the only way i know of.
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Is it possible to share android phone (eg. SGS i9000)3g internet connection with TF101 by USB or bluetooth?
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No, I don't think so. I had one app which had to be installed on phone and tab and was able to tether over bluetooth but it was very very unstable and never worked longer than 10 seconds.
Here is my setup:
SGS (i9000) with darkyrom and build in wifi tether + tasker app for automatically switch on and off wifi tether when a specific bluetooth device is connected.
I use my tab in the car and when i start it, the bluetooth connection from phone to the hands-free is established and wifi tethering enabled with tasker automatically. this takes less power and has the full internet speed. works great for me!
fpdragon said:
No, I don't think so. I had one app which had to be installed on phone and tab and was able to tether over bluetooth but it was very very unstable and never worked longer than 10 seconds.
Here is my setup:
SGS (i9000) with darkyrom and build in wifi tether + tasker app for automatically switch on and off wifi tether when a specific bluetooth device is connected.
I use my tab in the car and when i start it, the bluetooth connection from phone to the hands-free is established and wifi tethering enabled with tasker automatically. this takes less power and has the full internet speed. works great for me!
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I think that is exactly what I am looking for. I want use TF with internet connection when there is no wifi around. So phone provide internet connection to TF. Understood true?
I teathered my TF to my friends Droid X thru bluetooth and I was able to surf the inet using his Verizon account.
adamslast said:
I think that is exactly what I am looking for. I want use TF with internet connection when there is no wifi around. So phone provide internet connection to TF. Understood true?
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You can tether over bluetooth (The instructions are around here somewhere)
I use PDA Net connected over bluetooth to my Droid Incredible. I have the paid for version, but the free version should work too. Paid version lets you get into https sites and VPN's. I don't use a lot now since through work I have a MiFi from AT&T, but sometimes I get into GSM deadspots where my CDMA (Verizon) phone works just fine.
You can also use Wireless tether which is free :
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
OR
https://market.android.com/details?id=android.tether
Support bluetooth and Wifi. Works great !
PDAnet for tablet works if all you do is use browser
I'm looking for app, which can turn off data, when connection to know wifi spot is made and from the other side, when there is no known wifi spots, turn data /3g back on.
I know, that if both wifi and data is on, phone use wifi, if there is known spot, but don't phisicaly turn off data connection automaticly.
I tried SmartConnectivity, Smart Wifi toggler, but it's not working, as I want.
Try "Tasker"
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Try "Tasker"
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Jap, tried. But I don't know, how to make task for that kind of function...:/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cprados.wificellmanager
good app. doesn't use location services but instead remembers cell towers (like y5 which doesnt work anymore with 4.2+) so good on battery.
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I'm looking for app, which can turn off data, when connection to know wifi spot is made and from the other side, when there is no known wifi spots, turn data /3g back on.
I know, that if both wifi and data is on, phone use wifi, if there is known spot, but don't phisicaly turn off data connection automaticly.
I tried SmartConnectivity, Smart Wifi toggler, but it's not working, as I want.
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Qualcomm's battery guru does this there's a learning period but after that it should perform in the manner you're describing
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maybe in a few years that app will get somewhere. as it is, google location based wifi switchers aren't a good idea, unless you're using location services 24/7 anyway (latitude, gnow, etc).
I use wi-fi matic + macrodroid. When I come home, wi-fi matic detects the cell tower I'm connected to and switched on wifi. Once connected, macrodroid switches airplane mode on, and sipdroid connects to my sip provider. Once I leave and lose the wifi connection, macrodroid disables airplane mode. Then wi-fi matic sees that I left my area and switches off wifi. Totally automated
agreed... I don't use it myself(I'm a self-switcher) but I did install when it first came out and found it behaves like the op desires
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Mobile data is automatically switched off when WiFi is connected.
No need to disable it manually.
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El Daddy said:
Mobile data is automatically switched off when WiFi is connected.
No need to disable it manually.
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That's not true. If U look in Settings-Data usage Mobile data is still ON. Of coures it's not used, because wifi have prioritiy, but data is ON anyway.
For 2 days I was switch off it data/wifi manually and battery life is better.
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maybe in a few years that app will get somewhere. as it is, google location based wifi switchers aren't a good idea, unless you're using location services 24/7 anyway (latitude, gnow, etc).
I use wi-fi matic + macrodroid. When I come home, wi-fi matic detects the cell tower I'm connected to and switched on wifi. Once connected, macrodroid switches airplane mode on, and sipdroid connects to my sip provider. Once I leave and lose the wifi connection, macrodroid disables airplane mode. Then wi-fi matic sees that I left my area and switches off wifi. Totally automated
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Great. I think Wi-Fi matic + Auto WiFi/3G switch app should do what I'm looking for.
Thank you!
akulp said:
That's not true. If U look in Settings-Data usage Mobile data is still ON. Of coures it's not used, because wifi have prioritiy, but data is ON anyway.
For 2 days I was switch off it data/wifi manually and battery life is better.
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No its not on.
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akulp said:
I'm looking for app, which can turn off data, when connection to know wifi spot is made and from the other side, when there is no known wifi spots, turn data /3g back on.
I know, that if both wifi and data is on, phone use wifi, if there is known spot, but don't phisicaly turn off data connection automaticly.
I tried SmartConnectivity, Smart Wifi toggler, but it's not working, as I want.
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Okay here is .prf i just created put it in your tasker folder(auto-import).
It works perfect.
Open tasker and import it.
On any WiFi you connect(you can change that by pressing green arrow and add your know WiFis if you would like) it disables Mobile Data(You cant receive MMS if Mobile data is off) on WiFi you connect and when you lose your connection whit WiFi it disables WiFi and kicks in Mobile Data On so you dont need to worry to disable WiFi it does automatically.
ENJOY!
If it works thank me.
http://goo.gl/AS76Q
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No its not on.
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Yes, but service is ON, look in Settings-Data Usage: Mobile data=ON And that service is using battery...I'm not the first one, who found that "problem".
But it's not used, that's true.
Anyway, I found a solution with Wi-FI matic and Wifi/3g switch, not it's working like I want.
So thanks for help.
akulp said:
Great. I think Wi-Fi matic + Auto WiFi/3G switch app should do what I'm looking for.
Thank you!
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Llama (just search the Play store for it, I can't post the link...) seems to be a good single app location aware solution. The first play store review pretty much says it all "More flexible than Atooma, but not brain-melting like Tasker. Just makes using your phone easier, and more helpful."
I've been struggling with Tasker for several days trying to get it to do the same thing (toggle wifi and mobile data settings automatically based on my location). I had Llama set up and working beautifully in maybe an hour and a half, which included the time to read the devs instructions and FAQ (click "View Developer's Website from the Play store).
It uses cell towers to determine your location, so there is no battery hit, or you can optionally enable wifi polling or GPS for more accurate locating. It can also perform actions based on when your wifi changes state (connects or disconnects) regardless of your location. And since it's "Tasker-like" it can perform a lot more than just handling your data connections: adjust volumes or screen brightness, launch/kill apps, even shut off or reboot the phone (only if rooted). For example, mine is set up to remove my lockscreen password when I am home and re-enable it when I leave the area of my home wifi and it was fast and simple to get configured.
Karlo666 said:
Okay here is .prf i just created put it in your tasker folder(auto-import).
It works perfect.
Open tasker and import it.
On any WiFi you connect(you can change that by pressing green arrow and add your know WiFis if you would like) it disables Mobile Data(You cant receive MMS if Mobile data is off) on WiFi you connect and when you lose your connection whit WiFi it disables WiFi and kicks in Mobile Data On so you dont need to worry to disable WiFi it does automatically.
ENJOY!
If it works thank me.
http://goo.gl/AS76Q
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Wow, great!
I'll try and report...
But I think there is one thing missing what Wi-FI matic do. Wi-FI matic activate WIFI based on cell towers.
With this Tasker script you have to turn on WiFi by yourself, is that correct?
Than script turns off data and turn it back ON, when you lose connection. But than again, when wifi is presented, you have to turn it on by yourself...
I think, this script is doing something similar as this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=notus.com.tr.autowifi3gswitch&hl=sl
akulp said:
Wow, great!
I'll try and report...
But I think there is one thing missing what Wi-FI matic do. Wi-FI matic activate WIFI based on cell towers.
With this Tasker script you have to turn on WiFi by yourself, is that correct?
Than script turns off data and turn it back ON, when you lose connection. But than again, when wifi is presented, you have to turn it on by yourself...
I think, this script is doing something similar as this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=notus.com.tr.autowifi3gswitch&hl=sl
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If you want you can add to turn wifi on based on cell towers in tasker and even much more.If you need more help feel free to contact me.
Karlo666 said:
If you want you can add to turn wifi on based on cell towers in tasker and even much more.If you need more help feel free to contact me.
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Yap I know, tasker is powerfull, but my knlowedge about that is weak...
So If you are so kind, could you please add in previous task (thath one sent to me in your first post) or make a new task for turning on wifi based on cell towers...
I looked through this forum trying to find which method gives the most stable Internet connection for these head units but I'm not having any luck. Which connection have you found to be most stable: the phone's hotspot, dedicated mobile hotspot device or a 3G USB modem?
DiGiTY said:
I looked through this forum trying to find which method gives the most stable Internet connection for these head units but I'm not having any luck. Which connection have you found to be most stable: the phone's hotspot, dedicated mobile hotspot device or a 3G USB modem?
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I don't think a lot of people have tried all 3 options to give an objective opinion. I've only tried connecting to my phone's hotspot and my home router and it works fine on both, however it sometimes takes a while to connect. I would even select the SSID manually and hit "Connect" and it wouldn't do anything. Then I just leave it alone and it connects all by itself in a few minutes.
I haven't used a USB modem so I can't say anything about that.
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I don't think a lot of people have tried all 3 options to give an objective opinion. I've only tried connecting to my phone's hotspot and my home router and it works fine on both, however it sometimes takes a while to connect. I would even select the SSID manually and hit "Connect" and it wouldn't do anything. Then I just leave it alone and it connects all by itself in a few minutes.
I haven't used a USB modem so I can't say anything about that.
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Any hiccups or gotchas when using your phone as a hotspot? Does the phone get hot? Does it drain the phone battery even though plugged into the charger? What's the longest you've had the phone running as a hotspot at a given time?
I haven't had any problems with this really. The phone doesn't get any hotter than it usually does (I have a Galaxy S6 Edge). The battery still charges while hotspotting when it's plugged in to my car charger. I've used it for a couple of hours at a time with no problems. The only issue you MAY find is the battery drain even while plugged in, bt that will really depend on your phone and your charger so that's a "try and see" situation.
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I haven't had any problems with this really. The phone doesn't get any hotter than it usually does (I have a Galaxy S6 Edge). The battery still charges while hotspotting when it's plugged in to my car charger. I've used it for a couple of hours at a time with no problems. The only issue you MAY find is the battery drain even while plugged in, bt that will really depend on your phone and your charger so that's a "try and see" situation.
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I tested it out today for hours (using phone as hotspot) and you're right - it's a stable experience, no connection issues. The phone didn't get hot and it basically still charged. I was presumed a mobile hotspot device would yield the best experience versus a 3G USB modem (because I saw too many posts citing connectivity issues across multiple models) and phone as a hotspot (because I feared it'll get hot and be subject to connectivity issues too), but phone as a hotspot is solid enough (and I save $20/month over the other two options).
Thanks for the input!
I've tried all 3 options and i've settled on 3G USB modem with Phone hotspot as backup.
in my radio it NEEDS to be a huawei modem or the radio wont recognize it (tried with a TP-Link but couldnt even see it).
The advantage over both phone hotspot and dedicated hotspot (and the reason i use this solution) is that it turns on with the radio, and no need to worry about unsecure network as it isnt shared.
The disadvantage is that it is a bit slow on startup, and looses connection from time to time (could be network related tho)
InciterDK said:
I've tried all 3 options and i've settled on 3G USB modem with Phone hotspot as backup.
in my radio it NEEDS to be a huawei modem or the radio wont recognize it (tried with a TP-Link but couldnt even see it).
The advantage over both phone hotspot and dedicated hotspot (and the reason i use this solution) is that it turns on with the radio, and no need to worry about unsecure network as it isnt shared.
The disadvantage is that it is a bit slow on startup, and looses connection from time to time (could be network related tho)
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Yeah, that's why I was weary of going with the 3G USB modem option as most say theirs lose connection often.
The phone as a hotspot option is still working very well for me. My only complaint is that I have to manually turn it on every time I get in the car
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DiGiTY said:
Yeah, that's why I was weary of going with the 3G USB modem option as most say theirs lose connection often.
The phone as a hotspot option is still working very well for me. My only complaint is that I have to manually turn it on every time I get in the car
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that was one of the reasons i didnt want to use the hotspot solution. It didnt help my dedicated hotspot solution was in my trunk and the "on" indicator was broken
InciterDK said:
that was one of the reasons i didnt want to use the hotspot solution. It didnt help my dedicated hotspot solution was in my trunk and the "on" indicator was broken
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Oh, so dedicated hotspot devices don't automatically power on and start sharing/wifi when receiving power?
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Oh, so dedicated hotspot devices don't automatically power on and start sharing/wifi when receiving power?
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Not the one i used... I needed to turn it on when i needed it (usually just before i started my car). The one i used had a power saving mode so if it wasnt used for 15 min it would turn off to save power on the internal battery (7h capacity)
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Not the one i used... I needed to turn it on when i needed it (usually just before i started my car). The one i used had a power saving mode so if it wasnt used for 15 min it would turn off to save power on the internal battery (7h capacity)
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Surely there must be a way to disable that and have it power on automatically when connected to AC. I understand tehe power saving feature, but it should be possible to disable it at least when it's not using it's own battery.
In my case, I use my phone to share the connection via wifi and I set it up to automatically start the hotspot when it's connected to the radio via bluetooth and turn it off when it disconnects. That way I don't even have to worry about turning it on/off.
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Surely there must be a way to disable that and have it power on automatically when connected to AC. I understand tehe power saving feature, but it should be possible to disable it at least when it's not using it's own battery.
In my case, I use my phone to share the connection via wifi and I set it up to automatically start the hotspot when it's connected to the radio via bluetooth and turn it off when it disconnects. That way I don't even have to worry about turning it on/off.
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I thought about setting it up that way too, but my phone doesn't automatically reconnect to the heat units Bluetooth when in range/in the car. How do you get your phone to auto reconnect to Bluetooth and how do you set it up so that hotspot auto starts after that connection?
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It's actually the headunit that automatically reconnects. Go to the bluetooth options and check the settings for your device (after you've paired it). By default it should automaticqally reconnect though, unless you changed it, but check anyways. As for the automatic hotspot, I use an app called NFC Retag. It's meant to be for automating tasks when you use an NFC tag (hence the name, duh!) but it also supports some other trigger, such as detecting when the phone connects to a specific device via bluetooth. I'm using it since I already had it for a few things I do with NFC tags and it's worked like a charm, but I guess you could also do the same with Tasker or some other app.
DiGiTY said:
I looked through this forum trying to find which method gives the most stable Internet connection for these head units but I'm not having any luck. Which connection have you found to be most stable: the phone's hotspot, dedicated mobile hotspot device or a 3G USB modem?
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Just another follow up - phone as hotspot is still very solid for me. The only problem is it cuts out temporarily at start of calls but cuts back in seconds later in a call.
Hope that helps someone
P.S. - I'm running LG G3 Android 5.0.1 on AT&T with Joying 2818H 7 inch RK3188 based 1024x600 head unit running Malaysk June and then August 2015 ROMs
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I have an 4g usb modem and it doesnt work on my car stereo. I have plugged it to that usb 3g wire i got but it will not connect to car stereo .
How does it work ? Please help ..
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I have an 4g usb modem and it doesnt work on my car stereo. I have plugged it to that usb 3g wire i got but it will not connect to car stereo .
How does it work ? Please help ..
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From what I read 4G modems aren't compatible, only some 3G WCDMA USB modems work and those aren't very stable
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DiGiTY said:
I thought about setting it up that way too, but my phone doesn't automatically reconnect to the heat units Bluetooth when in range/in the car. How do you get your phone to auto reconnect to Bluetooth and how do you set it up so that hotspot auto starts after that connection?
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I have Tasker setup on my phone to automatically activate/deactivate the wifi hotspot when it connects/disconnects bluetooth to the headunit. The headunit then automatically connects when it detects the wifi signal. Works great and I never have to touch anything or take my phone out of my pocket.
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I have Tasker setup on my phone to automatically activate/deactivate the wifi hotspot when it connects/disconnects bluetooth to the headunit. The headunit then automatically connects when it detects the wifi signal. Works great and I never have to touch anything or take my phone out of my pocket.
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Ya, I got it to auto connect by checking the button in the Bluetooth app. The thing that sucks is phone screen needs to be awake and unlocked for hotspot to turn on. Otherwise it just sits in the background saying "Authenticating..." forever and never turning on
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